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Phillee
I am now 13, if you guys remember my rant on Time and Space 2 years ago. I wrote this a few minutes ago, whipped it up in about 15 minutes after reading through this forum a bit.

religion, and why it doesn’t work out for me (5/20/08)

If religion was to be perfect in every way, there would be no fear, no imperfection, no sin, no problems. The reason I choose to be free in my views on life is because of the two-sidedness of everyone’s personality. I can be generous, but as well as being a total jerk to whoever I choose to throw the emotional dart at. Religion in a historical form makes sense, but a great leader, like Jesus the Christ, who had claims with connection to God, born from the Virgin Mary, and resurrected to earth, should not be always referred to as the messiah of a religion. Not to say that scientology can cover it all up-- because science is all about just as absurd and religion can be-- but just because something happened as a miracle, or something the world hasn’t seen before, doesn’t mean that it has to have a holy connection to religion. Religion is mere belief, assumption, and, unfortunately, unproved. There are some events in the bible that relate to real life-- but yet so much assumption is involved, that every supernatural event must be connected to God or Christ.

However, being apart of somewhat of a paranormal cult, I must have faith that there is an underlying power that runs the earth, makes ultimate judgement, and has overall power over time and space. And, as most Christians refer to this underlying power, I call to God as the Force.

I would like to convince myself there is a heaven, a supernatural, ultimate judgement shall choose wether I stay to earth as a residual or interactive spirit, or if I go on to heaven to be joined with my lost friends. But, I can’t say that whatever I’d like to beleive is true. And the sad truth is, I don’t know. Nobody knows what happens after death, or if there is a Force, a God, a Power. The supernatural is a strong belief of mine, since it ties religion and scientology together neatly.

However, as I just so previously said, no-one knows. Once you are dead, communicating with humans is unpredictable, and probably not so easy on the spiritual power. The dead cannot be trusted, but nor can 6,000 year old writings or religious peoples.
~HaParash~
QUOTE (Phillee @ May 20 2008, 05:48 PM) *
I am now 13, if you guys remember my rant on Time and Space 2 years ago. I wrote this a few minutes ago, whipped it up in about 15 minutes after reading through this forum a bit.

religion, and why it doesn't work out for me (5/20/08)

If religion was to be perfect in every way, there would be no fear, no imperfection, no sin, no problems. The reason I choose to be free in my views on life is because of the two-sidedness of everyone's personality. I can be generous, but as well as being a total jerk to whoever I choose to throw the emotional dart at. Religion in a historical form makes sense, but a great leader, like Jesus the Christ, who had claims with connection to God, born from the Virgin Mary, and resurrected to earth, should not be always referred to as the messiah of a religion. Not to say that scientology can cover it all up-- because science is all about just as absurd and religion can be-- but just because something happened as a miracle, or something the world hasn't seen before, doesn't mean that it has to have a holy connection to religion. Religion is mere belief, assumption, and, unfortunately, unproved. There are some events in the bible that relate to real life-- but yet so much assumption is involved, that every supernatural event must be connected to God or Christ.

However, being apart of somewhat of a paranormal cult, I must have faith that there is an underlying power that runs the earth, makes ultimate judgement, and has overall power over time and space. And, as most Christians refer to this underlying power, I call to God as the Force.

I would like to convince myself there is a heaven, a supernatural, ultimate judgement shall choose wether I stay to earth as a residual or interactive spirit, or if I go on to heaven to be joined with my lost friends. But, I can't say that whatever I'd like to beleive is true. And the sad truth is, I don't know. Nobody knows what happens after death, or if there is a Force, a God, a Power. The supernatural is a strong belief of mine, since it ties religion and scientology together neatly.

However, as I just so previously said, no-one knows. Once you are dead, communicating with humans is unpredictable, and probably not so easy on the spiritual power. The dead cannot be trusted, but nor can 6,000 year old writings or religious peoples.


I normally don't look down on people for their age....but maybe you should meet a few more wise people before you start making such statements....also, your incorrect use of scientology many different times has convinced me you aren't to sure of what to talk about....
snackfood
This kid is probably smarter than most adults. He or she can even write a grammatically correct sentence!
Rexblade
Well atleast you did some research. I'm not into religion either, i just like to be the spectator and research on some of them. There is also no religion that is perfect. Look at christianity, it was a cult at one point. Catholicism is canoblism. Eating the body of christ? Drinking the blood of christ? Even though the body is some type of bread and the blood of christ is pure wine with "holy" water. The wine was my favorite when i was still brought up catholic. With that, they give 13 year old sips of wine. Mormons are kinda cool because the men used to marry a lot of women. Which i can agree with because it is possible to love multiple people equally, but the restrictions are unbearable. Since The Bible is just a compliation of different books from different people, most of them were banned later on because it went against their ideology of christ. This was released as "The Book of Enoch" "The Lost Books of The Bible" (My favorite) and i think "the dead sea scrolls" It just shows how jesus christ was a prick. I'll share a small story from "The Lost Books of The Bible": On the sabbath, jesus and some kid were playing. Jesus made these small clay statues and brought them to life. The kid said "you shouldn't be doing that on the sabbath" and jesus....... killed the kid.

So yeah, since you're 13, you still have a lifetime to choose a religion IF you decide to. You don't have to. But before you choose, make sure you have done research on them.
Ciss
You've seen what most spend a life time trying to grasp...out of the mouth of a babe! LOL!

Its humbling to know...that we don't know'

'Many blessings
Watchful
by snackfood:
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This kid is probably smarter than most adults. He can even write a gramatically correct sentence!
I agree. I also like the fact, he or she was up front about their age. I see the OP's age in the thinking, but that's just it, I see the OP reflecting about religion and I think he or she sees their experience bound up within it. I think this is to the point.

by the way, snackfood, if ya ever notice that you're missing a donut in your avatar, it's because I took it! They look yummy!!!

by Kaisen CJM:
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I normally don't look down on people for their age....but maybe you should meet a few more wise people before you start making such statements....also, your incorrect use of scientology many different times has convinced me you aren't to sure of what to talk about....

He or she didn't make statements. The OP expressed their opinion and feelings on it, not statements. In which in the end, his or her belief system is entirely up to them.

Although, Rexblade pretty much expressed it for me too.
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So yeah, since you're 13, you still have a lifetime to choose a religion IF you decide to. You don't have to. But before you choose, make sure you have done research on them.

Exactly, but it's still your life, your opinion, your belief system, and I hope you still reflect and search. I give you the thumbs up, Sweetie.

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SunDogDayze
QUOTE (~Kaizen CJM~ @ May 20 2008, 09:01 PM) *
I normally don't look down on people for their age....but maybe you should meet a few more wise people before you start making such statements....also, your incorrect use of scientology many different times has convinced me you aren't to sure of what to talk about....


Oh for your God's sake.

First of all, you don't look down on people for their age? How upstanding of you. So you look down on them because their beliefs are different than yours instead?

Yes, the use of the word scientology is incorrect, but were you able to grasp the point? I think this is a very well thought out, intelligent standpoint for someone at such a young age, and I think your advice to the author to 'meet a few more wise people' before he/she makes statements like that shows your lack of free thinking. Did you not come to any of your own viewpoints without older, wiser people telling you what to think?

I think the author knows exactly what he/she is talking about, and you just had to slam the idea because it doesn't agree with yours. Am I wrong? If not, then I don't care how old the author is, you are the one who needs to grow up.

To Phillee: thumbsup.gif Keep learning and thinking, and you are on the right track!
Raptor
QUOTE (Phillee @ May 21 2008, 01:48 AM) *
I am now 13, if you guys remember my rant on Time and Space 2 years ago. I wrote this a few minutes ago, whipped it up in about 15 minutes after reading through this forum a bit.

religion, and why it doesn’t work out for me (5/20/08)

If religion was to be perfect in every way, there would be no fear, no imperfection, no sin, no problems. The reason I choose to be free in my views on life is because of the two-sidedness of everyone’s personality. I can be generous, but as well as being a total jerk to whoever I choose to throw the emotional dart at. Religion in a historical form makes sense, but a great leader, like Jesus the Christ, who had claims with connection to God, born from the Virgin Mary, and resurrected to earth, should not be always referred to as the messiah of a religion. Not to say that scientology can cover it all up-- because science is all about just as absurd and religion can be-- but just because something happened as a miracle, or something the world hasn’t seen before, doesn’t mean that it has to have a holy connection to religion. Religion is mere belief, assumption, and, unfortunately, unproved. There are some events in the bible that relate to real life-- but yet so much assumption is involved, that every supernatural event must be connected to God or Christ.


Be careful to not mix up scientology with science. Scientology is a set of beliefs practiced by different organizations, it's pretty much a cult/religion.

QUOTE (SunDogDayze @ May 21 2008, 06:53 PM) *
Oh for your God's sake.


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Nicely written post, Sun.
Irish
From my Blogs!

Life is a gift of God you have chosen to accept the finite version of it or you would not still be with us. Live it to the fullest, laugh, play and make friends and leave a lasting legacy of your life toward the pursuit of goodness, not for any eventual rewards but because it is the right thing to do.

I believe If you like the gift of life you have an opportunity to keep it, seek out matters of spirituality, don’t ever stop if you are uncertain of the conclusions you arrive at because that uncertainty is a red flag that you have not found the truth. Seek and you shall find it, knock and the door will be opened.

Remember you are under no obligation to do so if you choose to not pursue a renewal of life. This mortal life may be plenty enough living for some and eternity may not be enough for others.

There is an element of peace in believing in a certainty and I pray that all that read this find that certainty of spirit. Then carry on laughing and loving and living the rest of this life with joy and hope.

Irish

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God has no religion. --Mahatma Gandhi cool.gif
Phillee
Thanks for your input, guys. I certainly learn a lot going here, and thanks for not taking my age the wrong way.

I think it is true that I do have a (hopefully) full life ahead of me, but at the moment, someone like me really can't stick to a sinless and holy lifestyle with my daily actions, so I choose to be free in my views on life, as I said. But thanks for the input.

Seems like people like my stuff, I think I'll write more.
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