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louie
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2008/st...rthquake-p1.php

This bizarre and colourful cloud phenomenon was observed about 30 mins before the May 12, 2008 Sichuan earthquake took place. It was recorded in Tianshui, Gansu province (450km northeast of epicenter) by someone on a mobile. A similar cloud formation captured 20 minutes later in a different city 200km east of this location
Ignus Fatus
Does geopathic stress cause this phenomenon? There is also a phenomenan called earthquake lights that appear before earthquakes ... they are just earthlights, which appear in places of high electromagnetic frequencies.
Ginger
If you want this is an interesting read, I am not too familiar with this so I'll leave it to you to decide what you think is the answer.
http://geology.about.com/od/earthquakes/a/EQlights.htm
Torgo
These are not particularly unusual clouds. They show up all the time. People just don't look up. They happened to show up before the earthquake. Thats all. Nothing special. No earthquake forecasting.

The Bad Astronomer has a good article about this. Here: http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008/05...ll-china-quake/
Inner Space
QUOTE (Jaida @ May 21 2008, 09:39 AM) *
If you want this is an interesting read, I am not too familiar with this so I'll leave it to you to decide what you think is the answer.
http://geology.about.com/od/earthquakes/a/EQlights.htm


Good link Jaida. The article led to this rather impressive study.

There's no doubt in my mind that these sheets/clouds of light were precursors to that earthquake. Dr. Michael Persinger and other scientists have done a good bit of research on this as well.

Edited to add:

From the same link posted:

"A New Paradigm in Seismology?
Freund's mechanism for turning rock stress into distant light and electrical activity extends to earthquake phenomena. A cloud of p-holes, released at depth from seismic stress, can erupt from the ground as a solid-state plasma, causing effects that include earthquake lights, infrared emissions detected from space, radio noise, large-scale disturbances in the upper atmosphere, and even animal behavior and human premonitions. <-----
MID
QUOTE (louie @ May 21 2008, 06:48 AM) *
http://www.boreme.com/boreme/funny-2008/st...rthquake-p1.php

This bizarre and colourful cloud phenomenon was observed about 30 mins before the May 12, 2008 Sichuan earthquake took place. It was recorded in Tianshui, Gansu province (450km northeast of epicenter) by someone on a mobile. A similar cloud formation captured 20 minutes later in a different city 200km east of this location




It's simple cloud iridescence, louie. Possibly a circumhorizontal arc.
It's difficult to say since it's almost impossible to tell what type of clouds we're looking at with the grainy video quality.

Sunlight, at a high angle relative to the horizon is being difracted through either water droplets or ice crystals aloft...producing a rainbow like effect.


It has no relation to an earthquake.
crystal sage
QUOTE (Torgo @ May , 04:54 PM)
These are not particularly unusual clouds. They show up all the time. People just don't look up. They happened to show up before the earthquake. Thats all. Nothing special. No earthquake forecasting.

The Bad Astronomer has a good article about this. Here: http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008/05...ll-china-quake/



Great video... reminds me of the 4 hour Mirage seen by thousands in China last year

http://english.cri.cn/811/2006/05/07/421@85556.htm
MID

I should add that I just ten minutes ago observed the same phenomenon (~18:45 EDT, Eastern PA).
There is a line of thunderstorms ~ 15 miles west. The diffraction was obviously occurring through ice clouds trailing off the tops of the cells, which are currently between 38-40,000 feet.

It's actually a common thing...if you're lookin'!
Leonardo
QUOTE (MID @ May 28 2008, 12:59 AM) *
I should add that I just ten minutes ago observed the same phenomenon (~18:45 EDT, Eastern PA).
There is a line of thunderstorms ~ 15 miles west. The diffraction was obviously occurring through ice clouds trailing off the tops of the cells, which are currently between 38-40,000 feet.

It's actually a common thing...if you're lookin'!


As are earthquakes...

Frequency of earthquakes annually

Now, I'm not suggesting these atmospheric phenomena are the signs of, or are caused by, seismic activity. However I would have to see a serious study indicating there is no connection to say they are not.
Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (Leonardo @ May 28 2008, 09:58 AM) *
As are earthquakes...

Frequency of earthquakes annually

Now, I'm not suggesting these atmospheric phenomena are the signs of, or are caused by, seismic activity. However I would have to see a serious study indicating there is no connection to say they are not.

Thanks for that info on the number of earthquakes. It is funny to me how as with earthlights you can have all the anecdotal evidence possible with observations made by the dumb, the normal and the very intelligent. All including the religious and scientists are kicked around just because "you" people did not see it. Seriously earthquake lights have been seen throughout history throughout the world. Study up on the earths electromagnetic field ... I think UM bot did a post in January about it but I'm not for sure what month it was. The earth gives off it's own energy. This energy is higher over faultlines. Animals sense it ... maybe they can see it.

I'm just saying people, time to open your minds a little. These things have been studied scientifically ... just because it cannot be measured doesnt mean it isnt.
zandore
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Circumhorizontal Arc
Leonardo
QUOTE (zandore @ May 28 2008, 03:51 PM) *


Beautiful indeed, Zandore. Some cloud formations and colourations are very beautiful and probably unrelated to seismic activity.

Is all cancer caused by smoking?
Inner Space
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Researchers in Taiwan monitored 144 earthquakes between 1997 and 1999, and they found that for those registering 6.0 and higher the electron content of the ionosphere changed significantly one to six days before the earthquakes.

Earthquake forecasters can also watch for changes in the ionosphere by monitoring very-low-frequency (3- to 30-kilohertz) and high-frequency (3- to 30-megahertz) radio transmissions. The strength of a radio signal at a receiver station changes with the diurnal cycle: it is greater at night than in daylight, as anyone who listens to late-night radio from far-off stations knows. The altitude of the ionosphere, which moves lower as the positive holes migrate to the surface, also has an effect on radio signals; the lower the ionosphere, the stronger the signals. So at dawn on an earthquake day, a curve drawn to represent the drop-off in radio signal strength will appear markedly different from the normal curve for that signal at that location.

The connection between large earthquakes and electromagnetic phenomena in the ground and in the ionosphere is becoming increasingly solid. Researchers in many countries, including China, France, Greece, Italy, Japan, Taiwan, and the United States, are now contributing to the data by monitoring known earthquake zones.

Using these phenomena for earthquake prediction will take a combination of satellite and ground-based sensors. Satellites can cover most of the planet, but at ELF frequencies signal sources are hard to pinpoint. Ground-based monitors have smaller detection ranges, up to 50 km, depending on the sensitivity of the magnetometer and the size of the quake, but are far more precise. With a network of such sensors, forecasters looking at the amplitude of signals received at each sensor might be able to locate a quake within 10 to 20 km. This means that, for an area as large as California, accurate earthquake detection might require that forecasters distribute 200 to 300 magnetic-field and air-conductivity sensors on the ground.

For decades, researchers have detected strange phenomena in the form of odd radio noise and eerie lights in the sky in the weeks, hours, and days preceding earthquakes. But only recently have experts started systematically monitoring those phenomena and correlating them to earthquakes.

A light or glow in the sky sometimes heralds a big earthquake. On 17 January 1995, for example, there were 23 reported sightings in Kobe, Japan, of a white, blue, or orange light extending some 200 meters in the air and spreading 1 to 8 kilometers across the ground. Hours later a 6.9-magnitude earthquake killed more than 5500 people. Sky watchers and geologists have documented similar lights before earthquakes elsewhere in Japan since the 1960s and in Canada in 1988.

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Earthquake Lights 1966 - Kobie, Japan Source

Another sign of an impending quake is a disturbance in the ultralow frequency (ULF) radio band—1 hertz and below—noticed in the weeks and more dramatically in the hours before an earthquake. Researchers at Stanford University, in California, documented such signals before the 1989 Loma Prieta quake, which devastated the San Francisco Bay Area, demolishing houses, fracturing freeways, and killing 63 people.

Both the lights and the radio waves appear to be electromagnetic disturbances that happen when crystalline rocks are deformed—or even broken—by the slow grinding of the earth that occurs just before the dramatic slip that is an earthquake. Although a rock in its normal state is, of course, an insulator, this cracking creates tremendous electric currents in the ground, which travel to the surface and into the air. Article conts/Source
Ignus Fatus
QUOTE (Inner Space @ May 28 2008, 02:25 PM) *
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Researchers in Taiwan monitored 144 earthquakes between 1997 and 1999, and they found that for those registering 6.0 and higher the electron content of the ionosphere changed significantly one to six days before the earthquakes.

Earthquake forecasters can also watch for changes in the ionosphere by monitoring very-low-frequency (3- to 30-kilohertz) and high-frequency (3- to 30-megahertz) radio transmissions. The strength of a radio signal at a receiver station changes with the diurnal cycle: it is greater at night than in daylight, as anyone who listens to late-night radio from far-off stations knows. The altitude of the ionosphere, which moves lower as the positive holes migrate to the surface, also has an effect on radio signals; the lower the ionosphere, the stronger the signals. So at dawn on an earthquake day, a curve drawn to represent the drop-off in radio signal strength will appear markedly different from the normal curve for that signal at that location.

The connection between large earthquakes and electromagnetic phenomena in the ground and in the ionosphere is becoming increasingly solid. Researchers in many countries, including China, France, Greece, Italy, Japan, Taiwan, and the United States, are now contributing to the data by monitoring known earthquake zones.

Using these phenomena for earthquake prediction will take a combination of satellite and ground-based sensors. Satellites can cover most of the planet, but at ELF frequencies signal sources are hard to pinpoint. Ground-based monitors have smaller detection ranges, up to 50 km, depending on the sensitivity of the magnetometer and the size of the quake, but are far more precise. With a network of such sensors, forecasters looking at the amplitude of signals received at each sensor might be able to locate a quake within 10 to 20 km. This means that, for an area as large as California, accurate earthquake detection might require that forecasters distribute 200 to 300 magnetic-field and air-conductivity sensors on the ground.

For decades, researchers have detected strange phenomena in the form of odd radio noise and eerie lights in the sky in the weeks, hours, and days preceding earthquakes. But only recently have experts started systematically monitoring those phenomena and correlating them to earthquakes.

A light or glow in the sky sometimes heralds a big earthquake. On 17 January 1995, for example, there were 23 reported sightings in Kobe, Japan, of a white, blue, or orange light extending some 200 meters in the air and spreading 1 to 8 kilometers across the ground. Hours later a 6.9-magnitude earthquake killed more than 5500 people. Sky watchers and geologists have documented similar lights before earthquakes elsewhere in Japan since the 1960s and in Canada in 1988.

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Earthquake Lights 1966 - Kobie, Japan Source

Another sign of an impending quake is a disturbance in the ultralow frequency (ULF) radio band—1 hertz and below—noticed in the weeks and more dramatically in the hours before an earthquake. Researchers at Stanford University, in California, documented such signals before the 1989 Loma Prieta quake, which devastated the San Francisco Bay Area, demolishing houses, fracturing freeways, and killing 63 people.

Both the lights and the radio waves appear to be electromagnetic disturbances that happen when crystalline rocks are deformed—or even broken—by the slow grinding of the earth that occurs just before the dramatic slip that is an earthquake. Although a rock in its normal state is, of course, an insulator, this cracking creates tremendous electric currents in the ground, which travel to the surface and into the air. Article conts/Source




You rock innerspace.
Inner Space
QUOTE (bogcreeper @ May 28 2008, 02:30 PM) *
You rock innerspace.


blush.gif scuffs foot on the ground, *shucks* lol

Thanks Bogcreeper, I think you do too, not to mention your screen name. thumbup.gif
crystal sage
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Earth's Aura...

We can predict what condition... moods ..sore spots by reading it's electromagnetic fields... in the right conditions we can observe it's auras to predict..understand it's ?

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Kind of reminds me of the Kirlian photos!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnJghb8yk6c

http://www.csicop.org/si/2000-05/i-files.html

http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/publis...ticle_519.shtml
Torgo
um, thats the AURORA. Caused by charged particles from the sun following the Earth's magnetic field lines until they smack into the upper atmosphere at the poles, exciting the gas and causing it to glow.
Rosewin
Truly an awesome video I especially enjoyed the cultural aspects of it, the music, the language being spoken, but did feel a bit saddened that possibly the buildings in the film were not going to be standing after all was said and done. Hopefully that area was not affected as badly. Some can claim these lights are always there but we just do not look up into the sky often enough but I wonder if this really holds true for all cultures in the world?

crystal sage
QUOTE (Torgo @ May 30 2008, 07:25 PM) *
um, thats the AURORA. Caused by charged particles from the sun following the Earth's magnetic field lines until they smack into the upper atmosphere at the poles, exciting the gas and causing it to glow.

wink2.gif Hmmm?

Well we also all have our unique odors... gases.. smell of fear.. that animals sense..


are our moods.. personality all dectable on many levels.. as smells..vibration.. color(auras)...we can sense to moods of others.. how do we do this..? by thedetecti
gathering..the accumulation of all our registering tools..sight, (including our subconscious/superconscious awareness)..smell..hearing..feeling..touch (including our vibratory senses of detecting magnetic fields..that are utilized in various healing modalities such as Reiki)..cognitive knowledge..etc..

I bet we will one day be able to read the colors of the gases emitted from earth to predict..understand what will happen...or do we do this already? red moon means?..pink sky means? do we predict the weather by reading the auras.. vibratory gases of the earth
crystal sage
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http://www.exopolitics.org.uk/new-energy-f...-warfare-event/

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someoldguy
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That's very interesting, crystal sage. Thanks.

Maybe this phenomenon is something that we should be watching out for in the future. I'm not suggesting it's paranormal, but it could well be something physical that we don't yet understand. (Because we humans don't know everything.)

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