supervike
May 28 2008, 02:02 PM
Hmmm...>Demonspeak seems to be very similar to 'legal speak'.
Perhaps Demons are Lawyers and vice versa?
Actually, thats a pretty good theory...and explains much.
Skepticaldude
May 28 2008, 03:10 PM
QUOTE (supervike @ May 28 2008, 03:02 PM)

Hmmm...>Demonspeak seems to be very similar to 'legal speak'.
Perhaps Demons are Lawyers and vice versa?
Actually, thats a pretty good theory...and explains much.
Makes about as much sense as al the other theories.
Aanica
May 28 2008, 03:24 PM
QUOTE (supervike @ May 28 2008, 09:02 AM)

Hmmm...>Demon-speak seems to be very similar to 'legal speak'.
Perhaps Demons are Lawyers and vice versa?
Actually, thats a pretty good theory...and explains much.
See 'The Devils Advocate" for further information on this theory and I guess the demon-speak is a reference to Hell-speak the language demons speak in the movie Constintene?....
Leonardo
May 28 2008, 08:08 PM
QUOTE (Blind Atrocity @ May 28 2008, 04:23 AM)

Agreed, on the fact it is well written. However, the information being given seems to be a little too much, even for a demon to want to share. He doesn't want his avatar contacted, yet he goes so far as to offer her initials, roughly her age, and other facts? I honestly don't think it is real, but it is an interesting read nonetheless.
Eh, not quite. Avatar has actually been used in many more things than just cartoons and popular video games. There are a few books, whose names I cannot recall, that use the word avatar to label a being that represents a god or goddess, or other inhuman sort of being. Like some consider the skull to be an inanimate avatar of death. In fact, it is used in some religions.
Here is the definition of Avatar, as given by
dictionary.com:
This 'demon' could stand to have some grammar lessons as well. The use of the word 'avatar' is inappropriate to describe the host body used by a possessive spirit, that term would properly be 'vessel'. An avatar is an actual sending of a part or the spirit, an incorporation if you will, of some of the spirits' essence into a physical form - not a possession, but a creation - or, as you have suggested, B.A., an effigy.
Methinks someone who has played a few computer/video games wrote that article.
FeliciaOni
Jun 2 2008, 05:13 PM
why would a demon want to warn people and have us stop bothering them? from what i have read up demons see to always be on the look out for some fresh human souls so why would they want us to stop making it easy on them?
Brahmana
Jun 4 2008, 05:37 PM
Even if it is fake, the contents contained therein are probably fairly accurate as to the nature of demons. You should read the Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis, its an entertaining look at demons, yet actually, again probably has some profound insights as to their nature and what they are capable of.
Aanica
Jun 5 2008, 09:15 PM
QUOTE (brahman1888 @ Jun 4 2008, 11:37 AM)

Even if it is fake, the contents contained therein are probably fairly accurate as to the nature of demons. You should read the Screwtape Letters by C.S. Lewis, its an entertaining look at demons, yet actually, again probably has some profound insights as to their nature and what they are capable of.
I believe your right as far as their true nature and it is somewhat distrubing as it is written, Makes you think....
Ciraxis
Jun 6 2008, 06:01 PM
supervike, thats the best thing i've heard all week!
well at least the read killed 5 minutes of the work day.
This typically a djinn, possesing her avatar, to get his message across. He is right, we should not dabble in their business, we do not preceive or interact with them for a reason. However, take it warning and dont dabble in the occult or black magic.
GANGSTA
Jun 9 2008, 06:23 AM
That letter was a bunch of BS- sorry. Next time someone writes something like that he should drop the word MAGIC cause there is no such thing..... + The whole thing is not logical.
Hamlyn
Jun 9 2008, 09:30 PM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 25 2008, 07:54 PM)

Jim's comments:
This is from one who claims to be an actual demon. His warning at the end of his letter is quite interesting and in my opinion should be strictly adhered to.
Demon response to previous questions I had posted
Greetings, These questions are difficult to answer; several of them are not phrased properly, or contain too many intertextually implicit assumptions. Also, my language and comprehension skills are not up to par with those of human beings.
1. I am a demon, insofar as I have emerged from a chaos plane (which would be perceived by humans as a "hell") into materiality as a manifestation of human will. However, I do not know Satan personally, possess a forked tongue or a tail, dwell in flames etc.
theghost
Jun 9 2008, 09:42 PM
FAKE.enough said.
Twisted_Dragon
Jun 12 2008, 07:41 PM
Ok, I looked over all the responses to see mention of this, but found nothing. I guess I'm missing something, but it seems like the entire response was answering questions that were posed to it...but I don't see any questions. So what was it answering?
Beyond that, this whole thing seems very absurd to me. It is unreasonable to me to assume that any contact would be made by a demon to humans, nevertheless via the internet. One would think that if our technology and understanding are so primitive, that some mystical being from a different plane of existence would have a much more effective means of spreading his explicit warning than posting on an obscure website to leave his type alone. I just don't understand why a demon would take time off from spreading chaos in our plane, and murdering whoever for whatever reason (he did say that people were dead due to his presence), to search up hell and demons on google or something, and decide to answer some random sites plea for demon contact.
It is much more reasonable to assume that a moderately intelligent and very bored person got wind of it and had some fun. I see nothing in the display that gives me a good reason to believe it is authentic.
pinOi32
Jun 12 2008, 10:12 PM
u know, ppl can write anything...I can say im some kind of chicken from mercury who has a typewriter who can talk and dance
Aanica
Jun 13 2008, 05:39 AM
QUOTE (pinOi32 @ Jun 12 2008, 04:12 PM)

u know, ppl can write anything...I can say im some kind of chicken from mercury who has a typewriter who can talk and dance
we would believe you...

sorry could not resist..Aanica
Darksome
Jun 13 2008, 08:00 AM
I'm still surprised at the amount of incredibly gullible people in this world. Educated (presumably), well-spoken, articulate people who seem to have an overwhelming need to believe any load of crap anyone says anymore. Do people not actually bother THINKING these days?
If you seriously believe a supernatural creature/demon wrote that load of nonsense you need to get your head examined. Harsh, but THAT is true.
Shankpin
Jun 13 2008, 08:10 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 26 2008, 12:41 AM)

I am sure we are children to them but this one seems to talk in the sense that the one he writes through is a child and was accidently pulled in to her; thats why she isnt dead, to her, he or it is good ,here the passege this is creepy either way...lol
I am not interested in developing a correspondence with you. My avatar is inarticulate, oppressed, uneducated and too young to understand what is happening to her. If she were contacted by you or otherwise made aware of my presence, the results would be catastrophic.
Well, if this be genuine, the avatar is more than likely a teen.
As far as defining the word avatar; M &W says it B. "an incarnation in human form." So, I'm thinking it (demon) would be right in calling the possessed an "avatar"... but, then again, it's late, and I'm exhausted and I could be way off track here. But, it sounds right to me.
I still think it's chilling, regardless, of any doubts I may have.
I can't understand who or why anyone would go through the trouble of writing such a thing-
Phase 3
Jun 13 2008, 12:02 PM
2 things come to mind after I read this.
1. The Screw Tape Letters by C.S. Lewis
2. A horror/urban legend story to keep kids from using the Ouija Board.
jbondo
Jun 13 2008, 02:05 PM
The Demon makes it very clear that it/they doesn't want to be here in several ways but not even once does it instruct on how to not accidentally conjure them up. At the very least it could have said exactly how it's avatar pulled it in.
I saw several other issues, contradictions, etc...Plus I came from 2+ years at ATS so I've seen literally hundreds of hoaxes. You learn to recognize even the slightest inconsistency after a while.
This is not to say that I don't believe it impossible for someone to be possessed.
Ozi
Jun 13 2008, 02:12 PM
I have noticed that people are quick to believe it and accept that its from a demon, but just as quick as they are in believing, the skeptics are probably even quicker in ridiculing the whole thing and those who believe it.
Well modern science does inform us of paralell universes, dimensions and other planes, not accessible by humans yet, but there are species, who were on earth before us, like Djinn, who are capable of shapeshifting, interstellar speeds and they can come in to our plane, on their own accord, which is rare, or if they are summoned, via black magic, the types of work done by the likes of the great beast, crowley etc. Black magic has its roots in ancient Babylon, and modern days widely accepted and practised by superstar and people of authority, by using things like the kabalah.
The above medium is used to communicate and use demons as you call them, but in reality they are djinn, they can carry out duties, help in acheiving things beyond human capability, etc. they can also posses. The latter is a means by which they can communicate with humans, using the host, they can write type almost do anything we can. As for intelligence, they too are free willed and intelligent, they have their own religions, some follow human religions, they are good and they are bad, this one is maybe good and warning men not to dabble with what they dont know and leave them alone etc.
I think you need an open mind and heart to accept there is more to this universe than us, as for UFO's which many believe in, they always seemed to crash land on earth, there is other life out there and in parallel planes, but UFO are Djinn's manipulating and playing with our minds.
Shiloh
Jun 14 2008, 06:11 AM
CODE
Greetings, These questions are difficult to answer; several of them are not phrased properly, or contain too many intertextually implicit assumptions. Also, my language and comprehension skills are not up to par with those of human beings.
A most excellent way to avoid a lot of questions. And when read carefully, he avoids even more. even contacting the "avatar" is out of the question because the results would be catastrophic, yet she will likely die, so states the demon.
Total garbage IMO. Just someone who thinks articulate speech can pass for higher intelligence. Yet what they wrote is nothing but avoidance of the questions asked.
Aanica
Jun 24 2008, 04:50 AM
QUOTE (jbondo @ Jun 13 2008, 09:05 AM)

The Demon makes it very clear that it/they doesn't want to be here in several ways but not even once does it instruct on how to not accidentally conjure them up. At the very least it could have said exactly how it's avatar pulled it in.
I saw several other issues, contradictions, etc...Plus I came from 2+ years at ATS so I've seen literally hundreds of hoaxes. You learn to recognize even the slightest inconsistency after a while.
This is not to say that I don't believe it impossible for someone to be possessed.
whats ATS?
Shankpin
Jun 24 2008, 04:54 AM
ATS or not! You'd have to be an expertise on something like Demonic possession to weed out what's opposed to be genuine from fraud, considering this subject, of course... I mean geez.
Who is to say that these "demons" have to make any logical sense at all? it's ludicrous to assume they think as we "avatars.."
Aanica
Jun 24 2008, 05:01 AM
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Jun 23 2008, 10:54 PM)

ATS or not! You'd have to be an expertise on something like Demonic possession to weed out what's opposed to be genuine from fraud, considering this subject, of course... I mean geez.
Who is to say that these "demons" have to make any logical sense at all? it's ludicrous to assume they think as we "avatars.."
Thats right! the only sense is lies..
therion24
Jun 24 2008, 05:37 AM
Good Post! The writer was interesting but I must say, What a load of CRAP!!!! Demons love to wreak havok on this world its their job they love to be summoned and they love to destroy!
DemonWatcher
Jun 24 2008, 06:53 AM
QUOTE (Darksome @ Jun 13 2008, 03:00 AM)

I'm still surprised at the amount of incredibly gullible people in this world. Educated (presumably), well-spoken, articulate people who seem to have an overwhelming need to believe any load of crap anyone says anymore. Do people not actually bother THINKING these days?
If you seriously believe a supernatural creature/demon wrote that load of nonsense you need to get your head examined. Harsh, but THAT is true.
Some of the most brilliant minds in world history believed in the unknown, hence they became our greatest scientists and philosophers, i.e. Sir Issac Newton, Leonardo DaVinci, Plato and Aristotle to name a few. These men were intelligent and thought for themselves, even the men who worked on the atom bomb projects had a fear of God.
It was once said, "there are more things between the heavens and the earth, that we will ever understand."
Unfortunately that quote has been used so often I cannot remember who originally said it.
Always keep this in mind Darksome.
~DemonWatcher
Blueguardian
Jun 24 2008, 07:17 AM
I read this a couple of years ago, I agree with my opinion then and with you it is well written, maybe an exorcism would be the best way to go. Who knows, dont think we can do much though.
ValkyrieVoice
Jun 24 2008, 07:46 AM
QUOTE (Skepticaldude @ May 26 2008, 02:32 AM)

What kind of demon actualy goes onto a paranormal website and tells everyone that they are a demon? Surely it has better things to do. Heck, what kind of demon knows how to use a computer!?
I'm not saying that the piece written is authentic or that it isn't, but, from what I've learned about demons, they can pretty much take on any shape or form of choice, they can levitate things, move objects, throw things like furniture and dishes, glasses and whatever else within their reach around. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if they could possess someone's body, soul and mind and "type" on a computer in literate language(s) as well.
Shankpin
Jun 24 2008, 07:52 AM
I agree, Val.
Anukis
Jun 24 2008, 08:17 AM
What i find rather funny, is the politeness the 'demon' speaks with. I thought demons were nasty beings who couldn't care less of making an appropriate conversation with us humans, usually all they do is curse, make strange noises and well, just be nasty. However this one seems pretty polite and talkative.
I think this was written by a human who just wants to pass a good piece of advise; not to dabble around with demons, Ouija boards, magic and the kind...
LaPucelle
Jun 24 2008, 10:41 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ Jun 24 2008, 12:50 AM)

whats ATS?
ATS is short for "Above Top Secret"--a mystery/conspiracy website.
Jewels1958
Jun 24 2008, 12:23 PM
I find it hard to believe that people in this day and age still believe in bogeymen (devil and demons). These so-called evil creatures were created by the powers that be at the time to keep the un educated in line and to rule over people...power is the ultimate motivation for most everything in this world....obey me or you will go to hell and the devil will get you or demons possess your soul. After all "organized religions" are probably the biggest money making institutions in the world, and money means power. Just look up what the catholic and mormon churches raise as money and you will see.
Aanica
Jun 24 2008, 09:41 PM
QUOTE (LaPucelle @ Jun 24 2008, 04:41 AM)

ATS is short for "Above Top Secret"--a mystery/conspiracy website.

Thanks!
Son of _Adam
Jun 27 2008, 09:22 AM
Eh if that dude is legit as tough as they sound they all scramble when you mention the name "Jesus Christ." Usually only high-ranking demons will try and talk to humans and such. Most of them just try to scare the hell out of you to catch a buzz. Fear is the mind killer, you give them fear, they win, you hold your ground you can cast the un-holy thing back to its dimension. There is a rank structure amongst them and some are definitely more powerful than the others. They will feed you BS 90% of the time and are very evasive when they are asked questions. They come in many different hideous forms, and I mean many. It's better not to dabble with them if you are not prepared such as kids playing with Ouija boards or using dark magick.
Elite
Jun 28 2008, 08:37 PM
how did the 'demon' know english and if you think its because he knows what his avatar knows then he still wouldnt know because shes young and apparently uneducated
and why go to a website and say hes a demon?
i think its pretty obvious that some guy decided to pretend to be a demon and see if people believe him
Elite
Jun 28 2008, 08:40 PM
QUOTE (Nephilim_Slayer @ Jun 27 2008, 10:22 AM)

Eh if that dude is legit as tough as they sound they all scramble when you mention the name "Jesus Christ." Usually only high-ranking demons will try and talk to humans and such. Most of them just try to scare the hell out of you to catch a buzz. Fear is the mind killer, you give them fear, they win, you hold your ground you can cast the un-holy thing back to its dimension. There is a rank structure amongst them and some are definitely more powerful than the others. They will feed you BS 90% of the time and are very evasive when they are asked questions. They come in many different hideous forms, and I mean many. It's better not to dabble with them if you are not prepared such as kids playing with Ouija boards or using dark magick.
how are you meant to cast these apparent demons back to there demension?
and how are they supposed to get higer ranks , scaring a bunch of people?
kizza
Jul 3 2008, 11:08 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ May 26 2008, 02:59 PM)

Most definitely and its written by the demons avatar;a child with no knowelege of it even being there to the child, thats something to think about
honest question??
do u actually believe that demons are out there?
and if u do what r u gonna do about it
LostInThought
Jul 4 2008, 02:05 AM
QUOTE (lil gremlin @ May 26 2008, 03:55 PM)

stop bothering them??? Stop Bothering Them?????
LOL
"yeah cuz demons have rights too man....live and let live in eternal damnation dude..."
lmao, that is funny.
But personally... I'm feeling there is a good chance it is real.
Agent. Mulder
Jul 4 2008, 03:54 AM
QUOTE (Elite @ Jun 28 2008, 08:40 PM)

how are you meant to cast these apparent demons back to there demension?
and how are they supposed to get higer ranks , scaring a bunch of people?
yeah pretty much. its just like that movie, Monsters Inc.
after a long day at the office, they go home, do some more paper work, then have a beer, then off to bed. then start the whole thing again tomorrow.
Aanica
Jul 5 2008, 12:39 AM
QUOTE (kizza @ Jul 3 2008, 05:08 AM)

honest question??
do u actually believe that demons are out there?
and if u do what r u gonna do about it
What would you purpose? and yes I know for a fact they exist and I don't mind if you disagree, I come with a lot of experience with them and the paranormal, I don't argue with the others because I hope they never have to really find out and erase a question about their existence...
Aanica
Jul 5 2008, 12:41 AM
QUOTE (LostInThought @ Jul 3 2008, 08:05 PM)

lmao, that is funny.
But personally... I'm feeling there is a good chance it is real.
check the site and then see what you think ..ok
http://ghoststudy.com/new8/demons01/mainpage.htm
Shankpin
Jul 5 2008, 12:50 AM
QUOTE (kizza @ Jul 3 2008, 06:08 AM)

honest question??
do u actually believe that demons are out there?
and if u do what r u gonna do about it
Honest answer!
Yes,
& do what we're doing right now-
xCrimsonx
Jul 5 2008, 01:35 AM
"dang it" I was sort of hoping for a voice recording. 1/2 my lucky, the other half is a good story! Thanx for sharing.
Any sort of "Demon" is not going to share his kind words and say, "I think you better leave us alone".
Q Several human beings have died already because of my presence here; when I return to my plane, my avatar (a child) will likely be dead and I will be irreparably damaged.Q!
Sounds a bit hoitty toitty to me , i like to inform the so called and remind him that his !@#$ stinks.
Pardon me in advance!
Aanica
Jul 5 2008, 03:39 AM
QUOTE (xCrimsonx @ Jul 4 2008, 08:35 PM)

"dang it" I was sort of hoping for a voice recording. 1/2 my lucky, the other half is a good story! Thanx for sharing.
Any sort of "Demon" is not going to share his kind words and say, "I think you better leave us alone".
Q Several human beings have died already because of my presence here; when I return to my plane, my avatar (a child) will likely be dead and I will be irreparably damaged.Q!
Sounds a bit hoitty toitty to me , i like to inform the so called and remind him that his !@#$ stinks.
Pardon me in advance!
No offense, but I can see you don't know a thing about demons...
xCrimsonx
Jul 5 2008, 03:47 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ Jul 5 2008, 01:09 PM)

No offense, but I can see you don't know a thing about demons...
None taken, seems to me you may just see quite alot of things! Its not bad thing.
I know more than my fair share. ^^
Yes It was an intersting read. Thanx.
"Just because I cant feel demons doesnt mean their not there, but, I will believe in them when I see them".
xcx
Aanica
Jul 5 2008, 05:27 AM
QUOTE (xCrimsonx @ Jul 4 2008, 09:47 PM)

None taken, seems to me you may just see quite alot of things! Its not bad thing.
I know more than my fair share. ^^
Yes It was an intersting read. Thanx.
"Just because I cant feel demons doesnt mean their not there, but, I will believe in them when I see them".
xcx
Fair enough, I hope that day never comes my friend...
xCrimsonx
Jul 5 2008, 05:35 AM
QUOTE (Aanica @ Jul 5 2008, 02:57 PM)

Fair enough, I hope that day never comes my friend...
Bless you... so do I!
DemonWatcher
Jul 5 2008, 10:21 AM
I am going to ask this question: Why do "demons" have to be "Evil?" Hmm... Why is that my Kind, also known as the Watchers, are vilified, when all we wish to do is simply watch. Heck, your species has proven time and again that you are capable of producing individuals who make us wonder if you are even worth trying to protect, honestly people, we are not your enemies nor are we your friends/allies/servants, we simply are, some of us wish they could return to our reality however we agreed to stay and join with many of you. My current host also has a creature he calls "the demon" within, and so far nothing bad has happened, many insects and arachnids have perished but beyond that no one has been hurt, in truth they have been protected.
Simply, Leave Us Be, if you try to use us, we will not hesitate.
~Watcher
xCrimsonx
Jul 5 2008, 11:03 AM
QUOTE (DemonWatcher @ Jul 5 2008, 07:51 PM)

I am going to ask this question: Why do "demons" have to be "Evil?" Hmm... Why is that my Kind, also known as the Watchers, are vilified, when all we wish to do is simply watch. Heck, your species has proven time and again that you are capable of producing individuals who make us wonder if you are even worth trying to protect, honestly people, we are not your enemies nor are we your friends/allies/servants, we simply are, some of us wish they could return to our reality however we agreed to stay and join with many of you. My current host also has a creature he calls "the demon" within, and so far nothing bad has happened, many insects and arachnids have perished but beyond that no one has been hurt, in truth they have been protected.
Simply, Leave Us Be, if you try to use us, we will not hesitate.
~Watcher
"We simply are" sounds familiar, much like God Q. I am .Q!
How so protected??
Aanica
Jul 6 2008, 04:57 AM
QUOTE (DemonWatcher @ Jul 5 2008, 04:21 AM)

I am going to ask this question: Why do "demons" have to be "Evil?" Hmm... Why is that my Kind, also known as the Watchers, are vilified, when all we wish to do is simply watch. Heck, your species has proven time and again that you are capable of producing individuals who make us wonder if you are even worth trying to protect, honestly people, we are not your enemies nor are we your friends/allies/servants, we simply are, some of us wish they could return to our reality however we agreed to stay and join with many of you. My current host also has a creature he calls "the demon" within, and so far nothing bad has happened, many insects and arachnids have perished but beyond that no one has been hurt, in truth they have been protected.
Simply, Leave Us Be, if you try to use us, we will not hesitate.
~Watcher
WTF......*look's at watch* .sound's like its medicine time
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