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Darth Tyranus
Folks, first off let me introduce myself. I won't give my real name of course you can refer to me as Darth Tyranus. I'm 35 years old, I live in the southeastern part of the United States. I'm college educated, work a full time white collar job & I think of myself as just as normal as the guy next door.

All that being said, I have a fascination with space, science & UFO/alien life as we know it. I also have a belief & fascination in the after life or moving into the other dimension. Now let me tell you guys I am NOT a UFO kook, hoaxer & I'm not one of these disinformation people. I've been reading this board for several years or it seems like several years. People come here with all sorts of theories, beliefs ect ect & I suppose that's your right to do so.

But I wanted to say that I've been studying the UFO phenomenon for several years now. I do believe what most people know as "aliens" are real. And this has probably been brought up before on this board. But I've come to the conclusion that "aliens" are nothing more than angels & fallen angels recorded in the bible.

I know many people will refuse to connect the dots between religion & "science" as many people see it. But I've come to the conclusion from biblical scripture about "the sons of god coming down to the earth" & Jesus saying, "You will see strange signs & wonders in the heavens". I believe that "aliens" are sent by God as a sign to mankind. For example alien space craft hovering over nuclear missile silos & disabling them for several minutes. These are signs from God through "Good aliens"/angles" warning mankind. Then you have the fallen angels who numbered in the hundreds of millions who were thrown out of heaven & followed "Lucifer". These beings who come here to abduct, do experiments, those that tinker with DNA, those that have secret meetings with government officials, those that trade technology for the kidnapping of citizens, those that held a face to face meeting with president Eisenhower telling him "Their is no such thing as God, the body is just a container & your soul goes off somewhere to another planet". These IMO are what are know as "demons". I also believe demon possession is nothing more than an "alien" using some form of telepathy from another dimension to possess an individual. I also believe that these "evil aliens" are searching for eternal life because their time may soon be over. They have 3 objectives. Since they rebelled from God in the beginning they want worship from man or they want to destroy man or at least take as many people with them to destruction. Their last objective is to use the human body to some how live forever or possibly they want to be like God all mighty. They want to learn how to create life itself or possibly move their soul from one body to the next. Just as a Sith Lord is afraid to lose his power these "aliens" or at least the evil ones who rebelled from God are the same way. They want to be just like God & have that power.

The evidence around the globe is clear & startling. From 5k year old paintings of grays on the walls of caves to Stonehenge, to the aztec pyramids to the pyramids of Egypt. When the bible speaks of pagan religions all the tribes of ancient earth were compelled to follow these different "Gods". The bible says the world became so wicked during the time of Adam that God destroyed man. When God told Noah & his sons to replenish the earth, man soon started doing the same thing becoming wicked following these "other Gods". I've always asked myself who the heck were these "gods" & how the heck did the egyptians, the mya and ancient african tribes get all of this knowledge about space & time. Its simple, their "Gods" are nothing more than the ETs God threw out of heaven. Remember God wants man to worship him & these "angels" who rebelled also want to be worshiped. They came to earth exchanging knowledge for worship around the globe. Go back to your book of Genesis. When the serpent told Eve, surely if you eat this apple "you will be just like God".

Now here are a few other points that brought me to this conclusion.

Notice that in the bible God All Mighty only deals with 1 group of people to reveal himself to mankind. The Hebrew people or Jewish people. Its my belief that Abram the father of the Jews was obedient & refused to be corrupted by "fallen alien" beings & followed The God of Israel. The God of Israel rewarded him by blessing his seed & God said he would reveal himself to the world through Israel & the jewish people. Make note the great Pyramids of Egypt were erected right next to Israel. Coincident? I think not. They are pagan homage to "fallen angels" because they gave the pharaoh knowledge in exchange for worship. Same thing with pyramids & structures around the world like Stonehenge. Notice how God leads the hebrews out of Egypt with a cloud during the day & pillar of fire at night. Notice how Elijah the prophet is taken into heaven in a wheel of fire. Coincident? Notice that Jesus not only calls himself the "Son of God, but also The SON OF MAN. Now we've all heard about these alien abductions & cloning experiments ect ect. Its my belief that God came to Mary when she was a virgin & his human son was conceived for the salvation of all "men" "mankind".

The reason I believe this is because I long put out of my mind that God is a man. God isn't what we see in mid evil paintings. Nobody, not Noah, not Moses or any of the prophets have ever seen God while they were on earth. So NOBODY knows what God looks like. When God said let us make man in our image he was talking to his obedient angels. But in our image has more to do with his personality & likeness of patience, kindness being able to feel love ect ect............. Secondly, angels. Who said an angel from God had wings, blonde hair & blue eyes? Who made that rule? Angels are probably just as diverse looking as the animal kingdom on earth. A lion & zebra are 2 mammals but they look nothing alike..................... Who said the devil or demons had pointy ears, a pointy tail holding a pitch fork? Who wrote that rule? A snake & alligator are both reptiles but they look nothing alike. In fact its forbidden in the old hebrew laws to draw or make any images of God or the prophets. Doing so has only helped these evil aliens put mankind's mind to sleep. People totally disassociate whats in the bible with ufology or what we call "aliens". The greatest trick satan ever pulled was confusing man & making people believe he didn't exist.

Lastly 3 things that really make me believe all of this is tied together. 1. Jesus' death & resurrection are the reason these "aliens" are so secretive & don't land on the white house lawn. God isn't going to reveal himself through angels so his good angels give signs & stay away from mankind, they do what they are told. But these evil beings the ones in cahoots with governments around the world. The reason they can't come forth like in ancient days is because of the testimony witness & truth of Jesus Christ & his resurrection. That really threw a monkey wrench into their worship. Ask yourself why did they quit openly coming out the past 2k years? What are they afraid of now? Pyramids & monuments have been built for them for centuries before now they hide in secret & secretly land at military bases ect ect. Talking with the government.

2. Aliens/Angels can easily be worshipped when in their presence maybe for the first time. Read the book of revelation. Revelation 22:7-9 7"Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book."

8I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"

3rd & most telling. If you read Read the book of Revelation read about The New Jerusalem, pick op your bibles & read what the prophet John says about it!!!!!!!! Rev 21 1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

Rev 9One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb." 10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls. 16The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia[a]in length, and as wide and high as it is long. 17He measured its wall and it was 144 cubits[b] thick,[c] by man's measurement, which the angel was using. 18The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, 20the fifth sardonyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.[d] 21The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of pure gold, like transparent glass.

22I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. 25On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there. 26The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it.

Folks this is what we know as a giant UFO landing in Israel where the the current city of Jerusalem is now. Call me crazy but it all makes sense. I use to try to separate God from what we call "aliens & ETs". You can't & its a horrible mistake to try & do so. You're only doing what the fallen ones want you to do. Believe in no God, the God of the bible isn't real. We'll give you technology & the secrets of the universe, just forget about God, Jesus and or be like or worship us. Thats why the goverment is hiding all of this. People deep within the government have bought the lie & believe their is no God, see the interview with John Lear's son on YouTube. They have been hood winked by these beings because the military industrial complex is thirsty for technology weapons and power. The problem is government officials believe the lie they just don't know how to get the public to conform & go along with believing it. Thats why you hear of them speaking of the 'breaking down of civilization & the destruction of society'. Sadly when the government does eventually tell the world ET is real many of you are going to be tricked & fall completely away from God because the evil ones have convinced you they have nothing to do with whats in the bible. The vatican started last week by proclaiming all ETs are our brothers & shouldn't be feared. whistling2.gif Those of you wanting yearning & begging for disclosure may be sorry what you asked for in the end. No mater whats disclosed.

Believe in & follow JESUS CRHIST!!!! He is the WAY THE TRUTH & THE LIFE!!!!!!! He is the Messiah & Son of Man!
FireMoon
So these fallen ones are talking to the Bush administration, which is funded by a large cohort of ultra right wing christians who believe exactly the same sort of stuff you have posted?

You will spot the paradox here? wink2.gif
Darth Tyranus
QUOTE (FireMoon @ May 26 2008, 09:24 PM) *
So these fallen ones are talking to the Bush administration, which is funded by a large cohort of ultra right wing christians who believe exactly the same sort of stuff you have posted?

You will spot the paradox here? wink2.gif


Trust me dude I'm NOT a right wing christian. I hate the republican party because they are hypocrites. Plus George H W Bush knows A GREAT DEAL about UFOs. No he's not a lizard but he Rumsfeld & Chenney are in the loop about what you guys call "aliens".

Their are people deep within the government that don't believe God is real because the aliens have made them believe that. Then their are those that are deep within the government that know God is real but they choose to serve these "gods" because they think they are going to get a reward & win in the end.

Read your bible when it talks about the armies of the earth trying to fight Jesus when he appears in the heavens. That never made any sense to me, but it makes complete sense now.
AllP0werToSlaves
Welcome, and what a lengthy first post! I have a couple of questions for you:

It does all seem to makes sense, I just don't know if I can 100% believe you. First of all, this is your first post, and you could clearly be pulling the jehova witness card. EVERYTHING IN THIS UNIVERSE THAT ISN'T FROM EARTH IS EVIL! DONT FALL PREY TO COSMIC TRICKERY! READ THE BIBLE! Not that I don't believe you; quite a few of your points make sense.

Another question; when the hell did ET's talk to the president and tell him there is no God? Is this documented somewhere? Why haven't I seen even a hint of it? I'm really interested in seeing some kind of evidence that suggest the government is in contact with alien beings from another world/dimension, who are on a power trip to overthrow God.

Please explain; your theories are awesome!
LittleIrishVampiress
Ah I've noticed of late a strange, and what I would have thought unlikely laugh.gif affiliation with Star Wars and Christians looking for modern ideas and concepts to back up their Bible beliefs....All I can say for now, WEIRD blink.gif
AllP0werToSlaves
The only part that bothers me is that they now have the ability to say "That's what they want you to think!" as if we're being brainwashed.
Darth Tyranus
QUOTE (AllP0werToSlaves @ May 26 2008, 09:49 PM) *
Welcome, and what a lengthy first post! I have a couple of questions for you:

It does all seem to makes sense, I just don't know if I can 100% believe you. First of all, this is your first post, and you could clearly be pulling the jehova witness card. EVERYTHING IN THIS UNIVERSE THAT ISN'T FROM EARTH IS EVIL! DONT FALL PREY TO COSMIC TRICKERY! READ THE BIBLE! Not that I don't believe you; quite a few of your points make sense.

Another question; when the hell did ET's talk to the president and tell him there is no God? Is this documented somewhere? Why haven't I seen even a hint of it? I'm really interested in seeing some kind of evidence that suggest the government is in contact with alien beings from another world/dimension, who are on a power trip to overthrow God.

Please explain; your theories are awesome!


I'm a christian of no denomination. I have to ill will in my heart for any human brother. Be you black white hispanic ect ect ect. My family is the HUMAN family & these "beings" are out to deceive & destroy us.

If you go to You Tube, John Lear the son of the Lear jet inventer has like a 12 part interview about UFOs & aliens. He clearly states that UFOs & "aliens" are REAL, they have an agenda about learning about the human body & experiement. They made a deal with the government to trade technology for people. In other words, the government says you can kidnap some of our citizens for some technology. Lear also states that President Eisenhower had a face to face meeting with a being & after speaking with this being, he along with other govt officials came to the conclusion their is no such thing as God as we know it in the bible. The alien told him our bodies are nothing but containers & our soul goes so some machine. Basically the alien told him we as humans were just an experiment for his race.

That I do not believe.

Here are the interviews with John Lear. I'm not sure which interview its actually in but if you listent to them you'll hear him talking about Eisenhower & what "aliens" are really doing here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKRYnswV8ow
LittleIrishVampiress
OMG do not bring up John Lear here!!!!!

Lol, j/K w00t.gif
but serisously...you probably shouldn't dontgetit.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif
Darth Tyranus
QUOTE (LittleIrishVampiress @ May 26 2008, 10:10 PM) *
OMG do not bring up John Lear here!!!!!

Lol, j/K w00t.gif
but serisously...you probably shouldn't dontgetit.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif



Seriously ask yourself. Why won't the government disclose? Why are they slowly leaking things out? Why is the vatican doing the same?
Omnaka
The first to Go will be those spouting Hate and predgidous for another being of this or any universe, For they are all God's creation, Therefore your brother wether you like them or not.

They also have eternal spirit , created from eternal spirit(GOD) You all are drawing pictures Of Heavenly Father on this thread, calling him alien reptile Not of this world,,, What the heck do you suppose your Spirit looks like A gleeming white anglo Specimin of purity?

Ha ha Jokes on you. Your spirit, or last incarnation may verry well have been a worm.

Sorry I get upset when I hear Father and The brothers and Heavenly Host which Stands for love and Goodness demonised, You judge what you know not. Reminds me of the preacher spouting off about Gays , inciting a near riot in church, till one goes out and skull drags a Gay person For God, Or their idea of God.

There are Good and Bad alien Bros, The bad ones are predgidous against anything not like them, The good ones Love All Unconditionally, Like Our Father and Mother (GOD), Heres another Fact Good prevails over this predgidous, So sayeth The Lord God My Father!
Love Omnaka
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE (Darth Tyranus @ May 27 2008, 02:24 AM) *
Seriously ask yourself. Why won't the government disclose? Why are they slowly leaking things out? Why is the vatican doing the same?


the govs not reeeally leaking things out all that much.
its more so people who Worked for the gov, or still work for gov, that want the rest of us to know what they know.
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (Darth Tyranus @ May 27 2008, 03:24 AM) *
Why is the vatican doing the same?


Hold up now, what is the Vatican doing? huh.gif
Do they know something I don't?! wink2.gif
AllP0werToSlaves
I want to hear more John Lear stuff; I watched that three part interview and it was pretty damn interesting.
archangel_josh
QUOTE (Darth Tyranus @ May 27 2008, 11:07 AM) *
Folks, first off let me introduce myself. I won't give my real name of course you can refer to me as Darth Tyranus. I'm 35 years old, I live in the southeastern part of the United States. I'm college educated, work a full time white collar job & I think of myself as just as normal as the guy next door.

All that being said, I have a fascination with space, science & UFO/alien life as we know it. I also have a belief & fascination in the after life or moving into the other dimension. Now let me tell you guys I am NOT a UFO kook, hoaxer & I'm not one of these disinformation people. I've been reading this board for several years or it seems like several years. People come here with all sorts of theories, beliefs ect ect & I suppose that's your right to do so.

But I wanted to say that I've been studying the UFO phenomenon for several years now. I do believe what most people know as "aliens" are real. And this has probably been brought up before on this board. But I've come to the conclusion that "aliens" are nothing more than angels & fallen angels recorded in the bible.

I know many people will refuse to connect the dots between religion & "science" as many people see it. But I've come to the conclusion from biblical scripture about "the sons of god coming down to the earth" & Jesus saying, "You will see strange signs & wonders in the heavens". I believe that "aliens" are sent by God as a sign to mankind. For example alien space craft hovering over nuclear missile silos & disabling them for several minutes. These are signs from God through "Good aliens"/angles" warning mankind. Then you have the fallen angels who numbered in the hundreds of millions who were thrown out of heaven & followed "Lucifer". These beings who come here to abduct, do experiments, those that tinker with DNA, those that have secret meetings with government officials, those that trade technology for the kidnapping of citizens, those that held a face to face meeting with president Eisenhower telling him "Their is no such thing as God, the body is just a container & your soul goes off somewhere to another planet". These IMO are what are know as "demons". I also believe demon possession is nothing more than an "alien" using some form of telepathy from another dimension to possess an individual. I also believe that these "evil aliens" are searching for eternal life because their time may soon be over. They have 3 objectives. Since they rebelled from God in the beginning they want worship from man or they want to destroy man or at least take as many people with them to destruction. Their last objective is to use the human body to some how live forever or possibly they want to be like God all mighty. They want to learn how to create life itself or possibly move their soul from one body to the next. Just as a Sith Lord is afraid to lose his power these "aliens" or at least the evil ones who rebelled from God are the same way. They want to be just like God & have that power.

The evidence around the globe is clear & startling. From 5k year old paintings of grays on the walls of caves to Stonehenge, to the aztec pyramids to the pyramids of Egypt. When the bible speaks of pagan religions all the tribes of ancient earth were compelled to follow these different "Gods". The bible says the world became so wicked during the time of Adam that God destroyed man. When God told Noah & his sons to replenish the earth, man soon started doing the same thing becoming wicked following these "other Gods". I've always asked myself who the heck were these "gods" & how the heck did the egyptians, the mya and ancient african tribes get all of this knowledge about space & time. Its simple, their "Gods" are nothing more than the ETs God threw out of heaven. Remember God wants man to worship him & these "angels" who rebelled also want to be worshiped. They came to earth exchanging knowledge for worship around the globe. Go back to your book of Genesis. When the serpent told Eve, surely if you eat this apple "you will be just like God".

Now here are a few other points that brought me to this conclusion.

Notice that in the bible God All Mighty only deals with 1 group of people to reveal himself to mankind. The Hebrew people or Jewish people. Its my belief that Abram the father of the Jews was obedient & refused to be corrupted by "fallen alien" beings & followed The God of Israel. The God of Israel rewarded him by blessing his seed & God said he would reveal himself to the world through Israel & the jewish people. Make note the great Pyramids of Egypt were erected right next to Israel. Coincident? I think not. They are pagan homage to "fallen angels" because they gave the pharaoh knowledge in exchange for worship. Same thing with pyramids & structures around the world like Stonehenge. Notice how God leads the hebrews out of Egypt with a cloud during the day & pillar of fire at night. Notice how Elijah the prophet is taken into heaven in a wheel of fire. Coincident? Notice that Jesus not only calls himself the "Son of God, but also The SON OF MAN. Now we've all heard about these alien abductions & cloning experiments ect ect. Its my belief that God came to Mary when she was a virgin & his human son was conceived for the salvation of all "men" "mankind".

The reason I believe this is because I long put out of my mind that God is a man. God isn't what we see in mid evil paintings. Nobody, not Noah, not Moses or any of the prophets have ever seen God while they were on earth. So NOBODY knows what God looks like. When God said let us make man in our image he was talking to his obedient angels. But in our image has more to do with his personality & likeness of patience, kindness being able to feel love ect ect............. Secondly, angels. Who said an angel from God had wings, blonde hair & blue eyes? Who made that rule? Angels are probably just as diverse looking as the animal kingdom on earth. A lion & zebra are 2 mammals but they look nothing alike..................... Who said the devil or demons had pointy ears, a pointy tail holding a pitch fork? Who wrote that rule? A snake & alligator are both reptiles but they look nothing alike. In fact its forbidden in the old hebrew laws to draw or make any images of God or the prophets. Doing so has only helped these evil aliens put mankind's mind to sleep. People totally disassociate whats in the bible with ufology or what we call "aliens". The greatest trick satan ever pulled was confusing man & making people believe he didn't exist.

Lastly 3 things that really make me believe all of this is tied together. 1. Jesus' death & resurrection are the reason these "aliens" are so secretive & don't land on the white house lawn. God isn't going to reveal himself through angels so his good angels give signs & stay away from mankind, they do what they are told. But these evil beings the ones in cahoots with governments around the world. The reason they can't come forth like in ancient days is because of the testimony witness & truth of Jesus Christ & his resurrection. That really threw a monkey wrench into their worship. Ask yourself why did they quit openly coming out the past 2k years? What are they afraid of now? Pyramids & monuments have been built for them for centuries before now they hide in secret & secretly land at military bases ect ect. Talking with the government.

2. Aliens/Angels can easily be worshipped when in their presence maybe for the first time. Read the book of revelation. Revelation 22:7-9 7"Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book."

8I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I had heard and seen them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who had been showing them to me. 9But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers the prophets and of all who keep the words of this book. Worship God!"

3rd & most telling. If you read Read the book of Revelation read about The New Jerusalem, pick op your bibles & read what the prophet John says about it!!!!!!!! Rev 21 1Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

Rev 9One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, "Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb." 10And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God. 11It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. 12It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. 13There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west. 14The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

15The angel who talked with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city, its gates and its walls. 16The city was laid out like a square, as long as it was wide. He measured the city with the rod and found it to be 12,000 stadia[a]in length, and as wide and high as it is long. 17He measured its wall and it was 144 cubits[b] thick,[c] by man's measurement, which the angel was using. 18The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third chalcedony, the fourth emerald, 20the fifth sardonyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.[d] 21The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of pure gold, like transparent glass.

22I did not see a temple in the city, because the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. 23The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. 24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it. 25On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there. 26The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it.

Folks this is what we know as a giant UFO landing in Israel where the the current city of Jerusalem is now. Call me crazy but it all makes sense. I use to try to separate God from what we call "aliens & ETs". You can't & its a horrible mistake to try & do so. You're only doing what the fallen ones want you to do. Believe in no God, the God of the bible isn't real. We'll give you technology & the secrets of the universe, just forget about God, Jesus and or be like or worship us. Thats why the goverment is hiding all of this. People deep within the government have bought the lie & believe their is no God, see the interview with John Lear's son on YouTube. They have been hood winked by these beings because the military industrial complex is thirsty for technology weapons and power. The problem is government officials believe the lie they just don't know how to get the public to conform & go along with believing it. Thats why you hear of them speaking of the 'breaking down of civilization & the destruction of society'. Sadly when the government does eventually tell the world ET is real many of you are going to be tricked & fall completely away from God because the evil ones have convinced you they have nothing to do with whats in the bible. The vatican started last week by proclaiming all ETs are our brothers & shouldn't be feared. whistling2.gif Those of you wanting yearning & begging for disclosure may be sorry what you asked for in the end. No mater whats disclosed.

Believe in & follow JESUS CRHIST!!!! He is the WAY THE TRUTH & THE LIFE!!!!!!! He is the Messiah & Son of Man!


You are on the right track - there is a connection between religion, science and aliens. All I'll say is check out Rael, who is a prophet for the 'end time' sent by the same people who sent Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed and many other prophets. Read his book and you'll see the connection between aliens and the Bible. Download 'Intelligent Design - Message from the Designers' for free at www.rael.org

It will explain EVERYTHING!

Good luck,

-Josh
FireMoon
It's the mice if you want my opinion.. wink2.gif
AllP0werToSlaves
Could you explain that post? Just curious.
LittleIrishVampiress
^^ ooooooh god hmm.gif
Come on now, this is worse than Tom Cruise tongue.gif
Don't be spreading this pooh-hockey, its damaging to susceptible religous-fanatic type minds hmm.gif
QUOTE (AllP0werToSlaves @ May 27 2008, 03:47 AM) *
I want to hear more John Lear stuff; I watched that three part interview and it was pretty damn interesting.

Uh ooh ohmy.gif
Open that can of worms?! laugh.gif

J/k...nevermind! But ye were warned... mellow.gif
tongue.gif
AllP0werToSlaves
Has it been proven false or something? This video is friggin' crazy...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgxxclNQXjY&feature=related
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (FireMoon @ May 27 2008, 03:51 AM) *
It's the mice if you want my opinion.. wink2.gif

Ah, hurrah!! w00t.gif

laugh.gif
AllP0werToSlaves
I still hold no opinion, I just want to know why everyone is all touchy about John Lear?
FireMoon
Allpower... The mice reference is from "The Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy"... I cannot recommend enough, the original radio series that was broadcast by the BBC or the books by Douglas Adams of the same. The film/movie version isn't bad, but some of the wittiest observations and parts are left out and the plot toyed with to produce a *happy ending*.
AllP0werToSlaves
That's cool, but what's the deal with John Lear?
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (AllP0werToSlaves @ May 27 2008, 04:15 AM) *
That's cool, but what's the deal with John Lear?

You can't have a very constructive discussion about that man...
AllP0werToSlaves
Can you just explain why? I just heard of this guy in the last hour.
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (AllP0werToSlaves @ May 27 2008, 04:20 AM) *
Can you just explain why? I just heard of this guy in the last hour.

Really?! ohmy.gif

Oh, okay...Well, some might just call him, in politer terms wink2.gif , crazy.
AllP0werToSlaves
I was very aware of this, and he doesn't back up a single damn thing he says when he is confronted with questions. I am just curious if this guy has any credibility other than the internet? He is saying Venus is inhabited and that they are lying to us to cover it up lol.
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (AllP0werToSlaves @ May 27 2008, 04:25 AM) *
I was very aware of this, and he doesn't back up a single damn thing he says when he is confronted with questions. I am just curious if this guy has any credibility other than the internet? He is saying Venus is inhabited and that they are lying to us to cover it up lol.


Nope, no credibility. No-one likes him being brought up because he is useless for debate really!
Like you pointed out - Venus inhabited?! Nutter tongue.gif
AllP0werToSlaves
He is ranting about how the government has been hiding beings from other planets in our own solar system since the 1950's. He's saying that it's hard to except because we've been conditioned. He also says that alien craft on the moon during the first landing.
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE (LittleIrishVampiress @ May 27 2008, 03:27 AM) *
Nope, no credibility. No-one likes him being brought up because he is useless for debate really!
Like you pointed out - Venus inhabited?! Nutter tongue.gif


well, none of us have beeeen to venus. so its not like you can say its not true...i guess
"oh, well theres a unicorn on neptune. you cant agrue cause you havent been there, blah blah blah." i know
but alota people labeled him a nut now.
but he is a credible guy i guess. much more than LIV is anyways
AllP0werToSlaves
^That's kind of what scares me most lol. I know it could easily be made up, but wtf?
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (Agent. Mulder @ May 27 2008, 04:33 AM) *
but he is a credible guy i guess. much more than LIV is anyways

What?! ohmy.gif
I am soooo insulted!! crying.gif
Take it back.... geek.gif

But Venus is not habitable in any sense of the word, its GAS! That's why he is a nut, I'm not just saying it because I dismiss all 'believers' or whatnot...
Omnaka
QUOTE (LittleIrishVampiress @ May 27 2008, 03:40 AM) *
What?! ohmy.gif I am soooo insulted!! tongue.gif
Take it back.... geek.gif

But Venus is not habitable in any sense of the word, its GAS! That's why he is a nut, I'm not just saying it because I dismiss all 'believers' or whatnot...

Who said all inteligent life has to be carbon based oxygen breathers?

Love Omnaka
AllP0werToSlaves
That's sort of what I'm getting at. Have you ever been to Venus?
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (Omnaka @ May 27 2008, 04:42 AM) *
Who said all inteligent life has to be carbon based oxygen breathers?

Love Omnaka

No-one dontgetit.gif

But it still remains that Venus is a big fat uninhabitable poisonous ball of gas and riddled with the kind of 'storms' of a scale that we couldn't even imagine, so quite frankly, I don't even think our friend Optimus Prime would last very long wink2.gif
LittleIrishVampiress
I mean, come on, I'm all for other lifeforms being out there on the kind of planets that could sustain them, hell even that it mightn't be anything like our own environment...
But, Venus?! huh.gif
Come on, there's a lot of other more plausible candidates out there for you to be even considering a place like Venus...
AllP0werToSlaves
The thing that is fascinating me most is his claims that we have been lied to for the last 40 years about the moon lol.
Moon Demon
QUOTE (LittleIrishVampiress @ May 27 2008, 04:58 AM) *
I mean, come on, I'm all for other lifeforms being out there on the kind of planets that could sustain them, hell even that it mightn't be anything like our own environment...
But, Venus?! huh.gif
Come on, there's a lot of other more plausible candidates out there for you to be even considering a place like Venus...


how do you know they aren't just telling you that Venus is a big ball of gas to throw you off track?
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ May 27 2008, 05:09 AM) *
how do you know they aren't just telling you that Venus is a big ball of gas to throw you off track?

How do I know? happy.gif 'Cause thats just plain silly!
We've only got 9 or so planets in our own solar system, one already has intelligent lifeforms, do you really need to convince yourself that everything we know about Venus is a lie to validate the possibility of life elsewhere?!
The universe is vast, have a larger perspective!
Forget about Venus already tongue.gif
AllP0werToSlaves
^This is very true. But, I wouldn't put it past the government to try and pull something like this.
Moon Demon
QUOTE (LittleIrishVampiress @ May 27 2008, 05:17 AM) *
How do I know? happy.gif 'Cause thats just plain silly!
We've only got 9 or so planets in our own solar system, one already has intelligent lifeforms, do you really need to convince yourself that everything we know about Venus is a lie to validate the possibility of life elsewhere?!
The universe is vast, have a larger perspective!
Forget about Venus already tongue.gif

I understand, but the point is, you haven't seen Venus with your own eyes, don't trust everything you are told to be true.
AllP0werToSlaves
^You are both so right.
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ May 27 2008, 05:23 AM) *
I understand, but the point is, you haven't seen Venus with your own eyes, don't trust everything you are told to be true.

I don't! happy.gif

But I think it is safe to say, that when looking for life elsewhere in the universe, we can look further than our bad-tempered next door neighbour laugh.gif
Moon Demon
I don't think Venus if a ball of gas, a rover landed on it's surface and sent pictures
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02..._Images_01.html
Agent. Mulder
QUOTE (LittleIrishVampiress @ May 27 2008, 05:25 AM) *
I don't! happy.gif

But I think it is safe to say, that when looking for life elsewhere in the universe, we can look further than our bad-tempered next door neighbour laugh.gif


but you just did. what youve been taught in school, makes you automatically assume this guys a crazy nut. which is the first impression alota people get when listening to him.
and remember what happens when you assume?...
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE (Moon Demon @ May 27 2008, 04:23 AM) *
I understand, but the point is, you haven't seen Venus with your own eyes, don't trust everything you are told to be true.


ipso-facto..don't trust anything. Especially 98% of the lunatic scribblings posted on this forum. So presumably you didn't believe anything you were taught at school either!.
It's quite ironic that often people on these forums say things like 'you can't trust what you are told by the authorities' or 'science is blinkered & doesn't know the answers' etc etc, but these same people are quite happy to believe some nut when he says he's recieveing telepathic messages from aliens, or that there are alien bases on the moon, on the strength of nothing more than dodgy internet photos etc. Laughable.
Cold.
QUOTE (itsnotoutthere @ May 27 2008, 06:11 AM) *
ipso-facto..don't trust anything. Especially 98% of the lunatic scribblings posted on this forum. So presumably you didn't believe anything you were taught at school either!.
It's quite ironic that often people on these forums say things like 'you can't trust what you are told by the authorities' or 'science is blinkered & doesn't know the answers' etc etc, but these same people are quite happy to believe some nut when he says he's recieveing telepathic messages from aliens, or that there are alien bases on the moon, on the strength of nothing more than dodgy internet photos etc. Laughable.

But the government is filled with liars. If you honestly don't believe in the phenomenon, then why the Hell are you here? Honestly. There's no point in you coming to these boards anymore if all you're going to do is try to shoot down other people and their beliefs. It's rather sad, really. There's no place for you here if that's all you're going to do. You don't even try to accept things with an open mind, all you do is maintain one opinion - "It's not true," but I have yet to see the sources indicating WHY it's not true, not just your explanation of why it's not.

Can you honestly say, with an utmost certainty, that telepathic communication with ETs is not at all possible? If so, where are your sources to back your statement up?
Lilly
QUOTE (FireMoon @ May 27 2008, 03:51 AM) *
It's the mice if you want my opinion.. wink2.gif


Yeah, I think it's the mice<(click for link) as well. linked-image

REBEL
A lot of christian X ufology topics around lately eh...
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE (Alienated Being @ May 27 2008, 11:36 AM) *
But the government is filled with liars. If you honestly don't believe in the phenomenon, then why the Hell are you here? Honestly. There's no point in you coming to these boards anymore if all you're going to do is try to shoot down other people and their beliefs. It's rather sad, really. There's no place for you here if that's all you're going to do. You don't even try to accept things with an open mind, all you do is maintain one opinion - "It's not true," but I have yet to see the sources indicating WHY it's not true, not just your explanation of why it's not.

Can you honestly say, with an utmost certainty, that telepathic communication with ETs is not at all possible? If so, where are your sources to back your statement up?



Yes I can honestly say with all certainty that telepathic communication with ETs is not at all possible. There. Can you prove that it is? After all you're the one making tha outrageous claim.
LittleIrishVampiress
QUOTE (Agent. Mulder @ May 27 2008, 07:30 AM) *
but you just did. what youve been taught in school, makes you automatically assume this guys a crazy nut. which is the first impression alota people get when listening to him.
and remember what happens when you assume?...

Don't use my favourite My Wife and Kids quote laugh.gif

Anyhoodles, I'm not really assuming anything here, you can't discount everything we have learned about our solar system as all lies! I don't believe everything I'm told, I believe the government lie about a great deal of things for many reasons, but you have to be reasonable. Many things science teaches us are true, you can't deny it, it is a folly to do so. You can't just throw all that out the window 'cause one guy is ranting and raving over the internet.
How about all those people who's livelihoods are studying those planets?
Intelligent life just couldn't function properly on a planet like Venus, its impractical, if not wholly ridiculous.

To clear up about Venus, there is a land mass core underneath all that sulphuric gas and incredible wind speeds, but its not a nice place for even the hardiest of imagined organisms! There's so many possibilities out there that I am always filled with hope that they will finally stumble across something, (those poor people who have dedicated their lives to the cause!), maybe even on the moons of Jupiter like Europa, I mean thats reasonable in a way, BUT Venus is waaaaaaaaay down that scale of possible life-supporting environments.

info on what Venus is like here...http://www.nineplanets.org

Aren't you assuming that everything humanity has learned about Venus is lies, because someone with nothing to back up his claims, and whom sounds like one of those crazed TV Evangelists at the best of times, says you should believe aliens live there?
Honestly, if there are any assumptions to be made here, which would be more soundly based on reason?
You can't abandon reason in your search for the unexplained my friend, not even Fox himself ever abandoned his sense of reason. wink2.gif
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