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chemical-licker
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is he right?
MID
QUOTE (chemical-licker @ May 28 2008, 07:31 AM) *



Frankly, and it pains me to say so, but his comments are virtually ignorant.
RFK Jr. is about as skewed in his opinions as any liberal figure is.

Besides the fact that he is, and always has been a rather poor speaker, his positions have no basis in fact, his environmentalist views are destructive and uninformed, and he has absolutely no relation to his Father, or his Uncle.

Of course, the Kennedy name gives him automatic prominence, precisely because of his esteemed Father and his Uncle Jack, but their party, the Kennedy Democrats, died with Bobby in 1968. That has been rather evident over the years. Even Uncle Ted has been, frankly, a disgrace to his brothers' memory since 1969.

Forgive the bluntness here...but if I read another article about Ted Kennedy's brain tumor being a continuation of the "Kennedy Curse" I am going to become ill. Ted Kennedy has indeed been a participant in the "Kennedy Curse", but that has nothing to do with the unfortunate circumstance of his brain tumor ( a circumstance which is distressing, for anyone). He continued the "curse" starting in 1969, when he dumped a young girl off of a bridge in a drunken stupor in 1969 and left her to die, and in his behavior since.

It's rather funny that every Democratic candidate since those times has invoked Bobby and Jack Kennedy, when the party of the latter died long ago...

Bottom line:

RFK Jr. sounds like a CT, exactly. he has no grap on what's really going on, and he espouses a party line that is incoherent with what the Kennedys one, were all about.

mrbusdriver
Yeah, I think were JFK in the race today, he'd be viewed as a right wing extremist..."ask not what your country can do for you"....bah, such hate filled rubbish...

It's a whole new world...

Though I do agree with his assessment of the woeful effect the current pop-media bile is having in dumbing down our culture...
MID
QUOTE (mrbusdriver @ May 28 2008, 08:15 PM) *
Yeah, I think were JFK in the race today, he'd be viewed as a right wing extremist..."ask not what your country can do for you"....bah, such hate filled rubbish...

It's a whole new world...


It sure is a whole new world Mr. B.

I am not sure if JFK would exactly be viewed as a right wing extremist today, but he would certainly not be a Democrat. I think he might be a moderate...if not somewhat right wing leaning Republican...it's difficult to say, since the times were so very different in the early 1960s.

However, alot of what Kennedy did is more like Reagan than any Democrat since his time...
I think perhaps "The Gipper" may have had some foresight into the political change on the horizon when he switched from being a Democrat to a Republican in the early 1960s.


I have this recurrent dream, where Kennedy and Reagan are sitting around in Heaven someplace ( original.gif ), smoking a big cuban. Ronnie says, "Jack, what the hell with your brother Ted anyway?" And Jack says, "Christ knows, Ron, I have no F-ing idea...What the hell happened to America?! Bobby won't even mention his name in conversation!"

Can you imagine a Democrat saying those things Kennedy did?

"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty. This much we pledge—and more.

"To those peoples in the huts and villages across the globe struggling to break the bonds of mass misery, we pledge our best efforts to help them help themselves, for whatever period is required—not because the Communists may be doing it, not because we seek their votes, but because it is right. If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich.

"We dare not tempt them with weakness. For only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed.

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country.
My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man."


Hell, are you kidding me?
That's right wing baloney!!!!

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Though I do agree with his assessment of the woeful effect the current pop-media bile is having in dumbing down our culture...


Oh, I know what he's trying to say there, trust me...


However, it seems clear to me that he's been affected by the bile of pop-media culture himself!


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preacherman76
QUOTE (MID @ May 28 2008, 06:34 PM) *
Frankly, and it pains me to say so, but his comments are virtually ignorant.
RFK Jr. is about as skewed in his opinions as any liberal figure is.

Besides the fact that he is, and always has been a rather poor speaker, his positions have no basis in fact, his environmentalist views are destructive and uninformed, and he has absolutely no relation to his Father, or his Uncle.

Of course, the Kennedy name gives him automatic prominence, precisely because of his esteemed Father and his Uncle Jack, but their party, the Kennedy Democrats, died with Bobby in 1968. That has been rather evident over the years. Even Uncle Ted has been, frankly, a disgrace to his brothers' memory since 1969.

Forgive the bluntness here...but if I read another article about Ted Kennedy's brain tumor being a continuation of the "Kennedy Curse" I am going to become ill. Ted Kennedy has indeed been a participant in the "Kennedy Curse", but that has nothing to do with the unfortunate circumstance of his brain tumor ( a circumstance which is distressing, for anyone). He continued the "curse" starting in 1969, when he dumped a young girl off of a bridge in a drunken stupor in 1969 and left her to die, and in his behavior since.

It's rather funny that every Democratic candidate since those times has invoked Bobby and Jack Kennedy, when the party of the latter died long ago...

Bottom line:

RFK Jr. sounds like a CT, exactly. he has no grap on what's really going on, and he espouses a party line that is incoherent with what the Kennedys one, were all about.


Typical, if you cant refute the information, bash the source rolleyes.gif
MID
QUOTE (preacherman76 @ May 31 2008, 11:15 AM) *
Typical, if you cant refute the information, bash the source rolleyes.gif



You mean refute nonsense spewed by a nearly radical left winger who claims that the Constitution is being destroyed by the Bush administration? You mean refute the environmental nonsense this man spews incessantly.

Already been done, and this is not the place for that.

The question being addressed was "Is RFK Jr. right?"

It is not necessary to get into the already well fleshed out fallacies he spouts. That he's wrong doesn't seem to be necessary to explain too deeply.
Bella-Angelique
Consider this when listening to this speech.

The worst prison camp during the Civil War with the most inhumane conditions, treatment, and killings was a large Union camp under the control of the Union's leader Abraham Lincoln.

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Sometimes history has to get pretty old before people take another objective look at it.
Political spin has been around for a very, very, very, long time.
preacherman76
QUOTE (MID @ May 31 2008, 12:07 PM) *
You mean refute nonsense spewed by a nearly radical left winger who claims that the Constitution is being destroyed by the Bush administration? You mean refute the environmental nonsense this man spews incessantly.

Already been done, and this is not the place for that.

The question being addressed was "Is RFK Jr. right?"

It is not necessary to get into the already well fleshed out fallacies he spouts. That he's wrong doesn't seem to be necessary to explain too deeply.



In other words you have no intention of answering the question "is he right" you only choose to bash. Got ya.
MID
QUOTE (preacherman76 @ May 31 2008, 12:40 PM) *
In other words you have no intention of answering the question "is he right" you only choose to bash. Got ya.



I did answer it:

Reading is sometimes a requirement.

QUOTE
Frankly, and it pains me to say so, but his comments are virtually ignorant.

Bottom line:

RFK Jr. sounds like a CT, exactly. He has no grasp on what's really going on, and he espouses a party line that is incoherent with what the Kennedys once were all about.


Perhaps I should translate that:

No, he's not right.
preacherman76
QUOTE (MID @ May 31 2008, 01:20 PM) *
I did answer it:

Reading is sometimes a requirement.



Perhaps I should translate that:

No, he's not right.



Yea, I guess that does qualify as a answer, however undescriptive it may have been.
MID
QUOTE (preacherman76 @ May 31 2008, 01:25 PM) *
Yea, I guess that does qualify as a answer, however undescriptive it may have been.



The OP didn't ask for in depth description.
It was simply a question, which required a simple answer.
mrbusdriver
Once upon a time, the Federal government was designed to take care of issues that directly and immediately affected ALL of the states of the Union. Now they demadn I pay for micromanaged education in Kentucky, or the specific diagnosis and inxurance issues of a sick patient in Wyoming.
If you want the Feds, and all their expensive, inefficient tenticles taking care of you life, and the details if your family, then so be it. I will vote differently.
This Kennedy kid cannot help ME! He cannot help my current situation. If I live by such an expectation, what kind of self determining human am I??

It's like letting the mass media determine your lifestyle, how you should act, what you should look like.

I like my own, imperfect life, just the way it is.

I don't "believe" anything, RFK Jr is famous only because of his dad.
MID
QUOTE (mrbusdriver @ May 31 2008, 06:42 PM) *
I like my own, imperfect life, just the way it is.


I think that's the principal that defines what American government should be; out of the way.

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I don't "believe" anything, RFK Jr is famous only because of his dad.


Succinctly put, emphasis on ONLY...
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