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user posted image rAnthony North: The paranormal and science have an uneasy relationship. The occasional scientist is courageous enough to take the plunge into researching the paranormal, but in the main, the subject is anathema. This has led to what could be called a 'paranormal phobia' amongst those who claim to be rational. The world is explained through individualism, atheism, materialism and specialization. The paranormal doesn't fit into any of these, so forget it. : And science does a marvelous job at doing so. Indeed, many scientists become evangelical in their manic need to show that they are right, and paranormalists -well, mad. They've even recruited an army of groupies -non-scientific types who nonetheless have absolute belief in the wrongness of the paranormal. Forming sceptic societies the world over, they do a marvelous job of publicizing paranormalists, even being responsible for some careers. This manic need is interesting.: They doth protest too much, me thinks. And when someone exhibits this kind of fundamentalist mentality, we really must ask if the reason is not 'rationality' based, but an exhibition of fear. If we go into the history of science, it is clear that it grew out of mysticism and philosophy. Even just over 400 hundred years ago, many scientists were of a mystical bent. Think Keplar and Newton. Even in the 19th century, it was a monk -Mendel -who defined genetics. But somewhere along the way, science crossed the line. : It divorced itself from mysticism, and the absolute idea of inquiry it entailed. This seriously reduced the things it could study -namely, the definite physical world, if such a thing actually exists.

At first, they could be comfortable with this, for society was still religious enough to allow science a repository for things they could not explain. Some things could still be the preserve of God. But as god was banished from the universe, it had to change.: And the repository for awkward 'bits' was taken away. And once this occurred, science did something that was the exact opposite of the rational.

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heinrich1858
Science will in the end discover the truth even if it might not be the truth they were looking for.
I am all for being sceptic , but remaining open to possibilities is a good thing. If not Einstein would not have discovered relativity.

Scientists need to make space for such theoretical suggestions even if it is just a small space.
This will in the end help them make discoveries that otherwise would have gone undiscovered.
Think out of the box.

Then again there must be rationality , because irrationality like religion etc. have threatened to plunge us back in the dark ages by atacking science which should remain our basis for knowledge , but a little bit of Out of The Box thinking will help us discover more of the world.

Balance is golden inbalance is anarchy.
www375
"Claim" to be rational??? WTF????
Pluto-x
Right on! Scientists fear that Paranormal Investigators will discover the truth and find the answers before they can! Maybe not now, but our drive and ambition is greater.
Dr. D
QUOTE (UM-Bot @ May 29 2008, 09:54 AM) *
linked-imageAnthony North: The paranormal and science have an uneasy relationship. The occasional scientist is courageous enough to take the plunge into researching the paranormal, but in the main, the subject is anathema. This has led to what could be called a 'paranormal phobia' amongst those who claim to be rational. The world is explained through individualism, atheism, materialism and specialization. The paranormal doesn't fit into any of these, so forget it. : And science does a marvelous job at doing so. Indeed, many scientists become evangelical in their manic need to show that they are right, and paranormalists -well, mad. They've even recruited an army of groupies -non-scientific types who nonetheless have absolute belief in the wrongness of the paranormal. Forming sceptic societies the world over, they do a marvelous job of publicizing paranormalists, even being responsible for some careers. This manic need is interesting.: They doth protest too much, me thinks. And when someone exhibits this kind of fundamentalist mentality, we really must ask if the reason is not 'rationality' based, but an exhibition of fear. If we go into the history of science, it is clear that it grew out of mysticism and philosophy. Even just over 400 hundred years ago, many scientists were of a mystical bent. Think Keplar and Newton. Even in the 19th century, it was a monk -Mendel -who defined genetics. But somewhere along the way, science crossed the line. : It divorced itself from mysticism, and the absolute idea of inquiry it entailed. This seriously reduced the things it could study -namely, the definite physical world, if such a thing actually exists.

At first, they could be comfortable with this, for society was still religious enough to allow science a repository for things they could not explain. Some things could still be the preserve of God. But as god was banished from the universe, it had to change.: And the repository for awkward 'bits' was taken away. And once this occurred, science did something that was the exact opposite of the rational.

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The late Dr. Ian Stevenson said, "For me everything now believed by scientists is open to question, and I am always dismayed to find that many scientists accept current knowledge as fixed forever."
Sporkling
That shows that believers of paranormal skills and scientific people are both not so correct after all.
EtuMalku
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 30 2008, 10:27 PM) *
That shows that believers of paranormal skills and scientific people are both not so correct after all.

So now you're saying that there just might be vampires? LOL
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (EtuMalku @ May 30 2008, 09:41 PM) *
So now you're saying that there just might be vampires? LOL

Are you aware sporkling believes science to be a fruad (sic)?
Sporkling
I always believed in vampires.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 30 2008, 09:55 PM) *
I always believed in vampires.

Yet you believe (self-proclaimed) that science is a "fruad." (sic) Marvelous. You're a perfect foil to EtuMalku.
Sporkling
I am well entitled to believe whatever I like.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 30 2008, 10:11 PM) *
I am well entitled to believe whatever I like.

Yet seem unable to put into words your beliefs. You spout platitudes without the ability to explain why. You're well suited to believing in that you're unable to explain. Carry on, my sporkling friend.
Sporkling
I can put them into words. But you don't seem able to understand. And yes, I will carry on.
Incorrigible1
QUOTE (Sporkling @ May 30 2008, 10:22 PM) *
I can put them into words. But you don't seem able to understand. And yes, I will carry on.

Oh, I'll understand, my friend. All you need to do is to actually put your anti-science platitudes into actual words. How about now? Carry on...............
Sporkling
Oh of course.

First I would like to say that, everything in our daily lives is called something to do with science. Thats why I feel that science takes all the things and put it together to call science. That triggers my suspision.

And, They do not respect or treat the paranormal as anything important. But as soon as its proven or discovered, ghosts or something become a scientific fact instead of its own name but it falls into science. That makes me feel that it is not fair indeed for science, which scorns the paranormal, to have a part of if under science when discovered.

I do hope that my words are clear. If they are not, please clairify.
theQ
All things mystical, ghosts, etc...still follow the natural laws of the universe..we just don't know the physics.
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