John The Baptist By Leonardo

The Sign of Ascension is given by pointing upward with the index finger of the right hand.

The Sovereign Military Order of Malta, or the Knights of Malta, come from the older group Knights Hospitaller.



A re-enactment of how the Knights of Malta would have lookes in the 16th Century. They look almost like Conquistadors.

I was reading this link and came across this interesting info: http://www.wvancientartifacts.com/paleolithicfacts.html

"What is not known by established Archaeology? The many super imposed images in the Paleolithic Cave art are Advanced forms of Holographic type layered art blueprints. The small stones that are inscribed with multiple lines and art are also multi-dimensional advanced layered type art form blueprints.All the lines were intentionally and purposely drawn.If you take away one line you will dispose of multiple images in the art. "

I couldn't help but think of da Vinci and your super imposed layered images here in this thread. If they could do it in Paleolithic times maybe Leo could manage it after all........

Popular among some theosophists and adherents of esoteric Christianity is the conjecture that amen is a derivative of the name of the Egyptian god named Amun (which is sometimes also spelled Amen).[12][13][14] There is no academic support for this view.

Popular among some theosophists and adherents of esoteric Christianity is the conjecture that amen is a derivative of the name of the Egyptian god named Amun (which is sometimes also spelled Amen).[12][13][14] There is no academic support for this view.

Atlantis one of the most debated subjects in Mythology and Legend.
Its Whereabouts have been sought after and speculated about for 1000's of years.
A year and a half of research into freemasonry later I can without a shadow of a doubt show you where Atlantis is and how others throughout history have known about it and have tried to show us without coming right out and telling us , possibly because they feared the repercussions if they did.
Leonardo Davinci Knew of these Secrets and probably of the plans of the two opposing sides within freemasonry the Sons of Belial and the Law of One.
The order that seems to be prevailing is the Sons of Belial who want the creation of a dictatorship which emphasizes materialism, and greed the very things that are currently destroying our planet and tearing families and whole civilizations apart.
In His Painting The Last supper and The virgin of the rocks he left us clues that must be looked at. The method he used was one that he is historically famous for , that of mirroring.



In this section of the Last supper Painting you can see that there is a crucifix hovering below a giant stone apex both above a scarab beetle shaped city with a dodecahedron dome for the main “Cave” .
Both The apex and the crucifix can still be seen to this day.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/0007.jpg

The dodecahedron is the fifth platonic solid defined by Plato a polyhedron with twelve regular pentagonal faces, mentioned in his writing timaeus “There still remained a fifth construction (dodecahedron), which the god used for embroidering the constellations on the whole heaven”
An interesting line when you know that in this same writing he has discussed Atlantis and if you realize that 4000 years ago the Egyptians (the original Atlantians) were using the scarab beetle as the symbol for Cancer the zodiacal sign , one of twelve ,which could explain what he meant if he knew that there was a giant stone crucifix hovering above it and from this city people were coming and going from planet Earth , an amazing site to behold I am sure.
The City I have Rediscovered actually sits North west of 33n 33e , 33 for those of you that know is a very special number to the freemasons.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/0006.jpg

The City is actually underwater which wont come as a surprise to those that know of the history of Atlantis.
I believe it used to sit on 33n 33e as it is actually on a techtonic plate that is slipping NW
I took the liberty of overlaying screen grabs from google earth of both Atlantis and the pyramids both grabs taken when the compass in GE is set to its true north and noticed that the allignment of both is Identical pointing in a north easterly direction

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/p...-allignment.jpg

In this image you can see the magnetic anomolie that sits between the scarabs legs on what I believe is a landing pad or spaceport which stands to reason launching from such an area would be like launching in the eye of a storm

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/M...ic_anomalie.jpg

Here you can see the spaceship waiting for pregnant mary. Outside on a beam of bluish light hovering above ball placed on a sqaure plinth.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/m...ingpregnant.jpg

also this image is created in the same fashion as dan browns movie but utilising mirroring which they didnt.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/thomas_secret.jpg

This image shows Thomas saying shh with a tiny humanoid figure appearing between his hands, sugesting what that mary was pregant or more profoundly the actual origins of human existance from the Northern Donkey in the constelation of The Asses and the Manger when you combine that image with this one

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/THOMAS_POINTSB.jpg

Another clue to the whereabouts of the scarab beetle is the Masonic Temple in london The ceiling of which is a beautiful matrix of symbology and hidden meaning

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/whole-ceiling.jpg

and is placed directly under its pyramidal roof.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/masonspyramid.jpg

The Center of the ceiling has four scarab beetles pointing towards a giant crystal surrounded by two rings 0f 16 pentacle stars (16+16+1=33) .

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Ceiling_Detail.jpg

The giant crystal is actually a stylized flag Of Macadon the country which Alexander the Great used to be ruler of , Alexandria in Egypt is named after him and is the site of the Pharos lighthouse one of the lost ancient seven wonders of the world.
This is the setting for leonardos Last supper as the freemasons know as their replica of the lighthouse in Alexandria USA “The George Washington Masonic Memorial” has on its third floor 3 windows to each wall which is exactley what we see in leonardos Last Supper painting
Also on the third floor of this 333 foot monument is a shrine to christ.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/GWMM_02.jpg

If the suggestion is we are in Alexandria and surely we must be to get the view from marys window of the City of Atlantis from the rear then we are not in Jerusalem which is obvious if you draw a line backwards using google earth till it intersects land and we find it directly hits the spot where the lighthouse used to stand until 1300 !

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/LINEDUP_02.jpg

Mary Magdelen has been known since biblical times as the woman with the alabaster jar or box,

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/dolci.jpg

A jar of pure white gypsum or calcite alabaster in which she kept an oil with which she annointed the feet of jesus

"And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, and stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment." Luke 7:36-50

Bearing this in mind and doing a little research into the ancient Egyptian solar godess Bastet , who was the defender of the pharaoh and later Ra also a solar god , she later became known as the Eye of RA
( a definate masonic symbol )

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Horus.jpg

but more intriguingly Bastet literally meant (female) of the ointment jar. So it was no surprise to me that when I mirrored the head of Mary in the last supper painting a bastet appeared

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Bastet.jpg

Going with Ralph Ellis and his book title of "Jesus last of the Pharaohs" which would tie with Jesus being at the head of the table in the Last Supper painting if as I say it took place in the Pharaohs Lighthouse overlooking a kingdom where peace and harmony were order of the day otherwise you couldnt be a resident. I am speaking of Atlantis of course or is it the garden of Eden or the kingdom of Heaven on earth!

Is it a coincidence that Leonardos pupil Marco d'Oggiono painted the replicas under the instruction of his Teacher and hid the same clues , and is it a coincidence that in Marcos' version of the Virgin of the rocks when you mirror it you see a lions head entrance to a cave looking exactley like the cave of wonders in Aladdin the Disney cartoon.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/alladins-cave.jpg

A Cave which was revealed to Jafar when he followed a golden scarb Beetle into the desert a scarab beetle that he activated by placing together the two halves IE mirror image pieces!!!!
Then When I mirrored Leonardos Version of the using little white dots that are scattered around on the painting as markers to use for alignment I again got a cave of wonders , this time looking like a cross section opening with a shadowy figure stood almost with bowed head befor the cave The biggest surprise to me was the appearance of a scarab beetle above the scene I have just described. Created when you put the two halves together

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/COW.jpg

Also worth noting is the obvious third child in the marco version of this painting initially there appear to be only two children but when you realise there is a newborn infant created using the folds of red material on marys lap you suddenly realise that all the other characters are looking at or gesturing towards this infant

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/MarcoMadonna.jpg

The existance of a third sibling to john and jesus is some thing that Marco hinted at in a later painting when the third child had grown and John and Jesus were young men.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/THREE_BROTHERS.jpg

I also mirrored the jesus (RA ) figure in the image of the last supper and rather than seeing a lost chalice of christ I see the holy grail ( knowledge )

Jesus demonstrating as we do nowadays that a spinning magnetic field over a stationary magnetic field causes hover and lift

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/hoverplate.jpg

bearing that in mind the look of astonishment on James Son of zebedees face is now apparant he was impressed with the demonstartion of a small miracle before his eyes and now we understand that Thomas is saying so that will go up lift off !!!

This isnt unthought out fantasy because if we take a look at Jesus in Salvador Dalis Sacrament of the last supper

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/S...ment_normal.jpg

He is gesturing Flemings right hand rule and pointing to himself saying either I am magnetism or I have the knowledge of.

Then it came as no surprise to me that he placed this scene inside a dodecahedron the same construction we see of the domed city in marys window

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/marys-window.jpg

and that when I mirrored this image he had used amazing symmetry and now we have jesus demonstrating the left and right hand rule

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/l...supper-dali.jpg

IE counter rotating magnetic fields LIFT OFF

Here is an interesting image like leonardo Marco Hid many things in these pictures and I have dozens of examples to post heres one showing a high priest kind of figure with a crusaders shield above his head.


http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/crusader.jpg

Then there is this version by leonardo and the odd shaped rocks come together to give us the image of jesus or christ like silhouette appears over the scene (this is a large file 2.7megs)

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Jesusarms.jpg

Then there is if you look closely the image of Baphomet in between the mirrored image of marys head.which is the demon that the masons are supposed to worship.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Baphomet.jpg

Which makes sense when you mirror the little boy with the crucifix and see it makes a perfect set square and compass!

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/SETSQUARE.jpg

And when you look closely at the image of the view from marys window
You will see an unmistakeable fleur de lye in the red cloth

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/marys-window.jpg

if you cant see it watch this video I made and you can spot it easier

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/simple.wmv

Something I do find uncanny is the prophesy of the return of christ

In St. Mathew’s Gospel, Jesus foretold his second coming on Earth (link). The promise He made was that He would return when His sign appeared in the sky: "Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Matthew, 24:30).

taken from

http://www.aiborg.net/prophecy/

A Page entitled

THE DA VINCI PROPHECY

But quoting a source somemay see as worthy so am I fulfilling the prophecy by exposing the davinci code secret hidden in the painting

Or can the power source that held this great stone (diorite as it contains Magnetite like the giant stone scarab in the british museum I think which is reminiscant of the monoliths in 2001 by A.C.Clarke ) be reactivated and are we yet to witness this amazing spectacle in our lifetime ?

Heres the giant stone beetle in the British Museum Notice the concentric arrangement of the front end and think of platos description of the concentric rings I believe its a magnetic arrangement that creates a powerful magnetic field hence the magnetic anomolie picture I posted and the spaceship in the painting waiting for a pregnant Mary or even enhances a naturally occuring magnetic field as there seem to be lots of them.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/scarab_top.jpg

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/S...etle_statue.jpg

Another interesting image showing the Placement of the Knife in the picture of the last supper being directley in line with the ribs of jesus


http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/knifepoint.jpg

And when we see that in the image with the spaceship outside the window creates mary to be pregnant and the knife is know appearing to be in her hand as she is dressed in the correct colour red.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/m...ingpregnant.jpg

This would make sense as Mary and Peter are historically supposed to have been bitter enemies and this close up of Peters cheek shows a definate cut with blood


http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/petercut.jpg


ISA

SO, with that in mind, I am open for the possibility that Atlantis was a continent placed somewhere in between latin americas and Africa, and thus explains how similar technology and belief systems ended up in both areas, initially I have been thinking they escaped from Latin americas and ended up in Egypt, but now I see a possibility for them to going both ways if Atlantis was in the middle, thus getting to both latin americas and egypt and continuing their work there as good as they could from what they have left.

Oh, Jesus Christ and his little Chinese brother, not this hokum attempt at cod-linguistics again. Of course "Atlantic" sounds like Atlantis: both were named after the titan Atlas.

--Jaylemurph

Hi! There are certain proofs that both Northern Africa and Central America were before Deluge in contact with Atlantis. Of course the pyramids, but also in the languages, as "atl" in American languages means "water" (like in QuetzalcoATL), so our name of Atlantic Ocean falls inhere smoothly, and this is a vary ancient name.

On the other hand if we just read what Plato says, we won't find him actually calling Atlantis a "continent", so it could rather be a large archipelago, and betwen the island of it there was navigation to Americas (which Plato calls "outer continent").

Telling about the end of Atlantis, Plato says there was a serious war in the areas of N Africa and Europe, as Atlantis was expanding into these lands. From Timaeus:

She [the country located in place of modern Greece, opponent of Atlantis - marabod] was pre-eminent in courage and military skill, and was the leader of the Hellenes. And when the rest fell off from her, being compelled to stand alone, after having undergone the very extremity of danger, she defeated and triumphed over the invaders, and preserved from slavery those who were not yet subjugated, and generously liberated all the rest of us who dwell within the pillars. But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. For which reason the sea in those parts is impassable and impenetrable, because there is a shoal of mud in the way; and this was caused by the subsidence of the island.

The story was told to Solon in 600s BC and was apparently recorded in his diaries, which Plato was using (I think even Plutarch mentions that they were later lost), and the even was most likely about 14,700 years ago (as this is the dating of Great Deluge from the most recent Greenland ice study) - so there was 12,000 years between the actual event and the story told by Sonkhis to Solon. If even there was a nuclear war in which Atlantis was destroyed, neither Sonkhis, nor Solon could even imagine it not saying describe...

Obviously, most of pre-deluvian civilization was lost as the water level rose over 120m (now we have it about 10 m down from that top point), so all major cities were supposed to be on what we call continental shelf, as that shelf before Deluge was just a dry soil. Depending on the terrain we now live 20-100 km AWAY from the old coastline even if we have a waterfront house.

Why do I tend to give more credit to Plato's evidence, is because in the same Timaeus Sonkhis is not only talking about Atlantis and Deluge, but in general about the catastrophies Mankind experienced in the past; for example he rationalizes the Hellenic myth of Phaeton, calling the event "collision of celestial bodies", so it is not only deluge, but an asteroid attack what Plato tals about - while Sonkhis even theoretizes which type of catastrophe kills which groups of people, so he seems to have some stayistics to look at in his temple records!

It is a fact that Plato also used Atlantis as a "basis" for his "perfect state" - but not in Timaeus and Criteus! These two are only containing compressed info and virtually no discussion. We know for almost 100% that Solon was travelling to Egypt, looking for better legal system. We know almost for 100% that he has left diaries, now unavailable. But even the earliest Biblical text we have is 200 years younger than Timaeus, So maybe we just need to give a bit more trust to Plato?

On the other hand if we just read what Plato says, we won't find him actually calling Atlantis a "continent", so it could rather be a large archipelago, and betwen the island of it there was navigation to Americas (which Plato calls "outer continent").

"This I infer because Solon said that the priests in their narrative of that war mentioned most of the names which are recorded prior to the time of Theseus, such as Cecrops, and Erechtheus, and Erichthonius, and Erysichthon, and the names of the women in like manner. " and Cecrops was a mythical Athenian king at that time, my guess is the Atlantis event is a true (ish) story of events that occurred at this time. Why would the priest have mentioned those names in his interpretation of the story? and why hasn't Plato if the priests used these names when telling Solon? Because the story is the real story of the Cecrops myth perhaps?

Cod-Linguistics is soooo appropriate. They think they are authorities when they don't speak the language. Atl does not mean "Water" in Nahuatl (Uto-Aztecan). Where did this cockameenie crap come from.


Lapiche

edit: aolhuazatl -Water

Hi. I presume you are an authority in Nahuatl, and I am certainly not an expert in Amerindian languages, mea culpa. Meanwhile in your example <i>aolhuazatl -Water</i> "atl" stands at the end of the word.

I also can point out for you the national colors of Mexican flag, which can be learned at http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/mx%7Dmex.html where you can enhance your expertise level, as the description of the colors is saying among the other things:

"THE COLOR RED

Representing the Direction: East. The First Direction. We were not oriented North like Europeans.

Name: Tlaloc (Wine of the Earth).
Representing the Element: Atl (Water).
Animal Symbol: Tecolotl (Owl).
Attributes: Birth and Rebirth. "

Please do not suspect me in being insulted by your relatively rude post as I myself had a chance to make sure that information from the 3rd sources which I quoted without re-checking (regarding the direct relation of mayan word atl and European name for Atlantic ocean) occured to be correct. All the best.

Nice post, once again welcome to UM, I like your style. Politeness goes a long way imo.

LOL, in my age I was already bitten by so many mosquitoes that now I do not kill them, just jently blow on them to scare away. If seriously, it is impossible to discuss anything if the form of discussion is rude. Everyone knows, you behave like that in a pub and someone would give you a lesson, but internet creates a false feeling of security, and some people expose their inner Self. To me any opinion in the forums must be either well-explained or substantiated with the examples; it was actually my fault not to make a reference to the book I took this info from - but this only because that book was already pinched by some Atlantis fan, so I do not remember the author, only the contents. The same book was also mentioning bananas and pineapples as results of Atlantean genetic engineering (as they exist only like we know them and have no wild relatives). Both plants multiply by vegetative means, with the roots and stems, while the fruits make no biological sense at all as they do not even have seeds. Pineapple can not even blossom by itself, needs a help of a farmer (smoke overnight) and requires sulphuric acid for watering it... As for bananas I had an opportunity to observe how they were growing in my backyard in Queensland - the palm absolutely exhausts itself, carrying the huge bunch of fruits, and really looks happy when you relieve it from them, as it immediately starts forming new siblings and gets green and moist.

Mind you, I realize in full that the complete proof of Atlantis' existance may never be received, but I treat the whole story as a lesson for ourselves, that nothing lasts forever. Also for me it is still a grey area in Plato, when he first says that Atlantis took over all N Africa and Europe, stripping that "Athenian" state of all allies, and then suddenly something is done to it in desperation that it instantly loses the war and sinks. I would actually be happy to make Timaeus a compulsory reading for all presidents before they get their nuclear suitcase:)

MARABOD -he rationalizes the Hellenic myth of Phaeton, calling the event "collision of celestial bodies",

Clearly, you and Weareallsuckers need to be put into a to-the-death cage match to determine who the real finder of lost Atlantis is.

--Jaylemurph

comet hits Austria
this is kinda funny but points to something very interesting about the "impact" site [Köfels]. the monsterous landslide is a little older [5ky] and occured when many widespread valleys suddenly lost 300m of their erosional basis

you can, if you choose, legally [and scientifically] say that a sea filled the carpathian basin at the end of the last ice age. if you do this and then go back and see what the ancients named it then the pillars of hercules move around a bit as can all the other geographical tidbits in plato and homer and...

I would pay to see that, not literally to the death though, if it turns our one loses their memory during the fight it could be a problem.

In the Jowett translation it says: his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt. Now this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving in the heavens around the earth, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth, which recurs after long intervals;

are you using a different one? I have read 2 others, one was Lee I think, are you referencing a different translation? I'd like to know where it actually states a "collision of celestial bodies" because from what I know it is not clarified anywhere. I always thought the declining might mean the change of the Earth's axis tilt (NOT a pole shift) which resulted in a change of weather as that changes season regularity of which the green Sahara became a casualty. I do however think an asteroid is a possibility, so would be interested in where Plato actually states a collision of celestial bodies.
I generally am in agreement of an old date and the Cecrops bit was just a new thought. Your explanation on the way this may have been incorporated as just meaning very old could be right, since this would represent the ancient time to ancients themselves.

Even though this is left of the ball park and current geological evidence says otherwise, from reading different alternative things such as Shock Dynamics Theory in relation to tectonics, I often wonder if around about 10,000-8,000BC that South America was still connected just a bit to Africa (Atlantis) then asteroid impact in Africa or South America begins process of shock dynamics to throw South America westwards into the Atlantic on the angle it shows and into it's present position after hitting the bottom of North America to stop it. This would account for the different culture in South America to North America and the similarities to Africa. I find the evidence of African Australoid skulls dated 9000BC in eastern Brazil as odd if there was no sea contact or that it was all colonised from the North by asiatics, not to mention that peoples of Tierra del Feugo were stone age and are also of same skull type, until they were discovered, how would the people at the bottom be the most ancient? If you think about it it really answers every question we had about anything to do with sunken continents and the mysteries of South America.

Not that I would say I believe it but an interesting brain thought exercise nonetheless.

one should look to the city of sydney on the east coast of cape breton.

...for there are found many fine cars at low, low prices.

Sorry. Bad joke. But that's an unusually coherent post for you, MAD.

--Jaylemurph

well jaylemurph yes there is some really old cars up here and some nice harly's as well and with some magazien naming cape breton #1 island destanation in contenatal north america thing's are starting to come around.

my garden that i planted is comming well to ,were i exposed the bed rock and found a nice ridge lot's of earth energy comming up ,it help's with the growing of my fruit's and veggies .

i figured mix up arciology and farming they usally go hand in hand .

The right Tablet of the law (Moses' Decalogue) further signifies Jachin-the white pillar of light; the left Tablet, Boaz-the shadowy pillar of darkness. These were the names of the two pillars cast from brass set up on the porch of King Solomon's Temple...On top of each pillar was a large bowl-now erroneously called a ball or globe-one of the bowls probably containing fire and the other water. The celestial globe (originally the bowl of fire), surmounting the right-hand column (Jachin), symbolized the divine man; the terrestrial globe (the bowl of water), surmounting the left-hand column (Boaz), signified the earthly man. These two pillars respectively connote also the active and the passive expressions of Divine Energy, the Sun and the Moon, sulphur and salt, good and bad, light and darkness. Between them is the Sanctuary they are a reminder that Jehovah is both an androgynous and an anthropomorphic deity. As two parallel columns they denote the zodiacal signs of Cancer and Capricorn, which were formerly placed in the chamber of initiation to represent birth and death-the extremes of physical life. They accordingly signify the summer and winter solstices, now known to Freemasons under the comparatively modern appellation of the "two St. Johns...In the mysterious Sephirothic Tree of the Jews, these two pillars symbolize Mercy (Jachin) and Serverity (Boaz). Standing before the gate of King Solomon's Temple, these columns had the same symbolic import as the obelisks before the sanctuaries of Egypt. When interpreted Qabbalistically, the names of the two pillars mean 'In strength shall My House be established.

I was reading some more on the solomonic pillars that feature so frequently in masonic beliefs and found this on wikipedia



Another clue as to the significance of the scarab city of atlantis in all this I feel

ISA

Legends of the Dome of the Rock:

7 / THE FOUNDATION STONE HOVERS
During the Middle Ages the legend was widespread among Jews and Arabs that the Foundation Stone hovers in the air and instills fear and astonishment into the hearts of all who see it.

The Moslem judge Mujir ed-Din, an inhabitant of Jerusalem, bore witness about 1496 that a certain Arab who lived at the end of the eleventh century saw the Foundation Stone hovering in the air.

A Karaite voyager, Samuel son of David, who visited Jerusalem in 1641, tells of the hovering Foundation Stone in the Dome of the Rock: "And it is said that there is within it a big stone, known as the Foundation Stone, which hovers between heaven and earth. In recent times walls were built surrounding the Foundation Stone, but not touching it. And the reason for building these walls, it is said, was that pregnant women, upon perceiving the hovering stone, would miscarry. And therefore the walls were raised."

Rabbi Moses Hagiz, a Jerusalemite of the seventeenth century, describes the Dome of the Rock thus: "Within it a stone hovers in the air, known by us as the Foundation Stone. Hence, greater sanctity is observed in that chamber and one is forbidden to enter it, if only for the purpose of lighting the oil candles which burn there day and night."*

Sources: Mujir ed-Din, Kitab a-Uns ej-Jalil be-Taarikh a-Kuds wal-Khalil, 1866; Eisenstein (ed) Otzar Massaoth, 1926, p. 195; M. Hagiz, Parashat Eleh Massai, 1733; T. Tobler, Topographie von Jrusalem, I, 1853, p. 531; Monatsschrift für Geschichte und Wissenschaft des Judentums, 1925, p. 51.

* The Samaritan legend tells of Ahidan, the grandson of Tubal-Cain, who is mentioned in the Torah. Ahidan, they say, built Zion: "And he placed there a stone suspended [in the air] for worship." Maimonides tells of a temple in the land of Babylon in which was a golden image in the form of the sun. "This image was suspended between earth and heaven." A similar legend exists among the Arabs concerning the grave of Muhammad, in the city of Medina, in Arabia. The grave reputedly hovers in the air, between heaven and earth.

Culled from: Zev Vilnay: Legends of Jerusalem, Jewish Publication Society, 1973.

Hi again isaeyeallseeing.
I saw you reading my own thread and you will see the links that will be knowledgable to your own thoughts but do you think it wise to make these things known? My own research is simply to place Atlantis 'somewhere' that existed but by exposing some of these secrets of 'secret societies' I am not sure about it....
My interest is not in that but simply to prove Plato was right.

hey Puzzler glad to hear from you again , I hear what your saying but to be honest if they had the technology or understanding to be able to hove a 15 mile tall crucifix in the air made of stone whatever information is being hidden from us nedds to be released now , unfortunatley there are many whack jobs out there who would use free energy and hovering stones to subdue the rest of us into a dictatorship , I mean just look what bush and blair have done with air superiority and you can paint the rest of the picture yourself

ISA