Atlantis one of the most debated subjects in Mythology and Legend.
Its Whereabouts have been sought after and speculated about for 1000's of years.
A year and a half of research into freemasonry later I can without a shadow of a doubt show you where Atlantis is and how others throughout history have known about it and have tried to show us without coming right out and telling us , possibly because they feared the repercussions if they did.
Leonardo Davinci Knew of these Secrets and probably of the plans of the two opposing sides within freemasonry the Sons of Belial and the Law of One.
The order that seems to be prevailing is the Sons of Belial who want the creation of a dictatorship which emphasizes materialism, and greed the very things that are currently destroying our planet and tearing families and whole civilizations apart.
In His Painting The Last supper and The virgin of the rocks he left us clues that must be looked at. The method he used was one that he is historically famous for , that of mirroring.



In this section of the Last supper Painting you can see that there is a crucifix hovering below a giant stone apex both above a scarab beetle shaped city with a dodecahedron dome for the main “Cave” .
Both The apex and the crucifix can still be seen to this day.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/0007.jpg

The dodecahedron is the fifth platonic solid defined by Plato a polyhedron with twelve regular pentagonal faces, mentioned in his writing timaeus “There still remained a fifth construction (dodecahedron), which the god used for embroidering the constellations on the whole heaven”
An interesting line when you know that in this same writing he has discussed Atlantis and if you realize that 4000 years ago the Egyptians (the original Atlantians) were using the scarab beetle as the symbol for Cancer the zodiacal sign , one of twelve ,which could explain what he meant if he knew that there was a giant stone crucifix hovering above it and from this city people were coming and going from planet Earth , an amazing site to behold I am sure.
The City I have Rediscovered actually sits North west of 33n 33e , 33 for those of you that know is a very special number to the freemasons.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/0006.jpg

The City is actually underwater which wont come as a surprise to those that know of the history of Atlantis.
I believe it used to sit on 33n 33e as it is actually on a techtonic plate that is slipping NW
I took the liberty of overlaying screen grabs from google earth of both Atlantis and the pyramids both grabs taken when the compass in GE is set to its true north and noticed that the allignment of both is Identical pointing in a north easterly direction

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/p...-allignment.jpg

In this image you can see the magnetic anomolie that sits between the scarabs legs on what I believe is a landing pad or spaceport which stands to reason launching from such an area would be like launching in the eye of a storm

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/M...ic_anomalie.jpg

Here you can see the spaceship waiting for pregnant mary. Outside on a beam of bluish light hovering above ball placed on a sqaure plinth.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/m...ingpregnant.jpg

also this image is created in the same fashion as dan browns movie but utilising mirroring which they didnt.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/thomas_secret.jpg

This image shows Thomas saying shh with a tiny humanoid figure appearing between his hands, sugesting what that mary was pregant or more profoundly the actual origins of human existance from the Northern Donkey in the constelation of The Asses and the Manger when you combine that image with this one

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/THOMAS_POINTSB.jpg

Another clue to the whereabouts of the scarab beetle is the Masonic Temple in london The ceiling of which is a beautiful matrix of symbology and hidden meaning

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/whole-ceiling.jpg

and is placed directly under its pyramidal roof.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/masonspyramid.jpg

The Center of the ceiling has four scarab beetles pointing towards a giant crystal surrounded by two rings 0f 16 pentacle stars (16+16+1=33) .

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Ceiling_Detail.jpg

The giant crystal is actually a stylized flag Of Macadon the country which Alexander the Great used to be ruler of , Alexandria in Egypt is named after him and is the site of the Pharos lighthouse one of the lost ancient seven wonders of the world.
This is the setting for leonardos Last supper as the freemasons know as their replica of the lighthouse in Alexandria USA “The George Washington Masonic Memorial” has on its third floor 3 windows to each wall which is exactley what we see in leonardos Last Supper painting
Also on the third floor of this 333 foot monument is a shrine to christ.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/GWMM_02.jpg

If the suggestion is we are in Alexandria and surely we must be to get the view from marys window of the City of Atlantis from the rear then we are not in Jerusalem which is obvious if you draw a line backwards using google earth till it intersects land and we find it directly hits the spot where the lighthouse used to stand until 1300 !

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/LINEDUP_02.jpg

Mary Magdelen has been known since biblical times as the woman with the alabaster jar or box,

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/dolci.jpg

A jar of pure white gypsum or calcite alabaster in which she kept an oil with which she annointed the feet of jesus

"And, behold, a woman in the city, which was a sinner, when she knew that Jesus sat at meat in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster box of ointment, and stood at his feet behind him weeping, and began to wash his feet with tears, and did wipe them with the hairs of her head, and kissed his feet, and anointed them with the ointment." Luke 7:36-50

Bearing this in mind and doing a little research into the ancient Egyptian solar godess Bastet , who was the defender of the pharaoh and later Ra also a solar god , she later became known as the Eye of RA
( a definate masonic symbol )

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Horus.jpg

but more intriguingly Bastet literally meant (female) of the ointment jar. So it was no surprise to me that when I mirrored the head of Mary in the last supper painting a bastet appeared

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Bastet.jpg

Going with Ralph Ellis and his book title of "Jesus last of the Pharaohs" which would tie with Jesus being at the head of the table in the Last Supper painting if as I say it took place in the Pharaohs Lighthouse overlooking a kingdom where peace and harmony were order of the day otherwise you couldnt be a resident. I am speaking of Atlantis of course or is it the garden of Eden or the kingdom of Heaven on earth!

Is it a coincidence that Leonardos pupil Marco d'Oggiono painted the replicas under the instruction of his Teacher and hid the same clues , and is it a coincidence that in Marcos' version of the Virgin of the rocks when you mirror it you see a lions head entrance to a cave looking exactley like the cave of wonders in Aladdin the Disney cartoon.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/alladins-cave.jpg

A Cave which was revealed to Jafar when he followed a golden scarb Beetle into the desert a scarab beetle that he activated by placing together the two halves IE mirror image pieces!!!!
Then When I mirrored Leonardos Version of the using little white dots that are scattered around on the painting as markers to use for alignment I again got a cave of wonders , this time looking like a cross section opening with a shadowy figure stood almost with bowed head befor the cave The biggest surprise to me was the appearance of a scarab beetle above the scene I have just described. Created when you put the two halves together

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/COW.jpg

Also worth noting is the obvious third child in the marco version of this painting initially there appear to be only two children but when you realise there is a newborn infant created using the folds of red material on marys lap you suddenly realise that all the other characters are looking at or gesturing towards this infant

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/MarcoMadonna.jpg

The existance of a third sibling to john and jesus is some thing that Marco hinted at in a later painting when the third child had grown and John and Jesus were young men.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/THREE_BROTHERS.jpg

I also mirrored the jesus (RA ) figure in the image of the last supper and rather than seeing a lost chalice of christ I see the holy grail ( knowledge )

Jesus demonstrating as we do nowadays that a spinning magnetic field over a stationary magnetic field causes hover and lift

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/hoverplate.jpg

bearing that in mind the look of astonishment on James Son of zebedees face is now apparant he was impressed with the demonstartion of a small miracle before his eyes and now we understand that Thomas is saying so that will go up lift off !!!

This isnt unthought out fantasy because if we take a look at Jesus in Salvador Dalis Sacrament of the last supper

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/S...ment_normal.jpg

He is gesturing Flemings right hand rule and pointing to himself saying either I am magnetism or I have the knowledge of.

Then it came as no surprise to me that he placed this scene inside a dodecahedron the same construction we see of the domed city in marys window

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/marys-window.jpg

and that when I mirrored this image he had used amazing symmetry and now we have jesus demonstrating the left and right hand rule

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/l...supper-dali.jpg

IE counter rotating magnetic fields LIFT OFF

Here is an interesting image like leonardo Marco Hid many things in these pictures and I have dozens of examples to post heres one showing a high priest kind of figure with a crusaders shield above his head.


http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/crusader.jpg

Then there is this version by leonardo and the odd shaped rocks come together to give us the image of jesus or christ like silhouette appears over the scene (this is a large file 2.7megs)

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Jesusarms.jpg

Then there is if you look closely the image of Baphomet in between the mirrored image of marys head.which is the demon that the masons are supposed to worship.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/Baphomet.jpg

Which makes sense when you mirror the little boy with the crucifix and see it makes a perfect set square and compass!

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/SETSQUARE.jpg

And when you look closely at the image of the view from marys window
You will see an unmistakeable fleur de lye in the red cloth

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/marys-window.jpg

if you cant see it watch this video I made and you can spot it easier

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/simple.wmv

Something I do find uncanny is the prophesy of the return of christ

In St. Mathew’s Gospel, Jesus foretold his second coming on Earth (link). The promise He made was that He would return when His sign appeared in the sky: "Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory" (Matthew, 24:30).

taken from

http://www.aiborg.net/prophecy/

A Page entitled

THE DA VINCI PROPHECY

But quoting a source somemay see as worthy so am I fulfilling the prophecy by exposing the davinci code secret hidden in the painting

Or can the power source that held this great stone (diorite as it contains Magnetite like the giant stone scarab in the british museum I think which is reminiscant of the monoliths in 2001 by A.C.Clarke ) be reactivated and are we yet to witness this amazing spectacle in our lifetime ?

Heres the giant stone beetle in the British Museum Notice the concentric arrangement of the front end and think of platos description of the concentric rings I believe its a magnetic arrangement that creates a powerful magnetic field hence the magnetic anomolie picture I posted and the spaceship in the painting waiting for a pregnant Mary or even enhances a naturally occuring magnetic field as there seem to be lots of them.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/scarab_top.jpg

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/S...etle_statue.jpg

Another interesting image showing the Placement of the Knife in the picture of the last supper being directley in line with the ribs of jesus


http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/knifepoint.jpg

And when we see that in the image with the spaceship outside the window creates mary to be pregnant and the knife is know appearing to be in her hand as she is dressed in the correct colour red.

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/m...ingpregnant.jpg

This would make sense as Mary and Peter are historically supposed to have been bitter enemies and this close up of Peters cheek shows a definate cut with blood


http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/petercut.jpg


ISA

Interesting stuff. However, there have been people who have said that they've known the location of Atlantis for years. I will believe it when I actually see it, if a team goes to that location and finds it...great. But I don't believe that there was anything mysteries about Atlantis at all, I just believe it was a civilization where their land collapsed into the water. I also believe the "Sea Peoples" who invaded Egypt may have been people from this civilization.

Thanks for your Opinion Jaida , You sure must surf quick thats a load of links I have put up there to view and a deal of info to absorb and put together .

But thanks for stopping by

ISA

Why do you have to distort a painting/picture/portrait to get it to show what you want? If there's a message there, wouldn't it have been shown in plain sight? Kinda like a 'Where's Waldo?' picture where you don't have to distort or change any of what you see, just look beyond what you normally see.

Clearly, you and Weareallsuckers need to be put into a to-the-death cage match to determine who the real finder of lost Atlantis is.

--Jaylemurph

Will that deathmatch be on pay-per-veiw?

Heh.

Either PBS or Sci-Fi, depending on who wins.

--Jaylemurph

It should be a Hell In The Cell match with Mick Foley as the special guest reffere

what a truly great topic

i found it all really intresting
some of it was a little far fetched but on the whole very intresting


as for the post asking why wasn't it in plain view view why would it be hidden


i think we all know just how clever da vinci was and i don't think it beyond his capabilities to engineer his art in this way i think it was upposed to be secret knowledge but maybe knew the church would not hold sway over the planet forever so sought to maybe hide some knowledge for future generations
although we must be careful not to get carried away

I am sorry but all I see is that Davinci knew about the Transformers...

I read somewhere a physic pinpointed the location of atlantis, they went to this and found tiles and stuff underwater

I had an exam on Atlantis today. Im near sick to death of it.
*gets out her Timaeus and Critias*

I havent studied the Timaeus section of the text, mainly because it is not concerned with Atlantis. Its purpose is concerned with theology and an account about the origin of the world and the phenomenon of nature.

A reference would be nice, i dont feel like trailing through all the text! I'd like to read about these constructs and the context in which it was written in Timaeus.

For me this theory is a bit weak. You said "An interesting line when you know that in this same writing he has discussed Atlantis" But you have not taken into account the text of Critias at all in this theory, which might be helpful as it is the first record we have of an Atlantis.

The supposed link between the sentence in Timaeus that you have quoted and the unclear mirrored image of the last supper is very weak. It appears you may grasping at something that is not there. I may be wrong for i have only done one module on Atlantis, and i was more concerned about the utopian side to it anyway, but this is just my opinion.

Well, maybe it wasnt Atlantis he was trying to show in his hidden mirror images?

Perhaps it was Davinci who realized the truth, that we exist in many dimensions, and that we are are all connected weither we like it or not.
He was showing how realities can be within realities. Atlantis, the lost continent, was not a reality, but a city of great glory. Yes, you are correct about the beetle shaped island thats underwater.... and that made me do some research in underwater topography of that area.

So, maybe you have found the answer to the truth, rather than the answer to where atlantis may lay.

I think it's clear da Vinci was trying to show Samus Aran.

--Jaylemurph

Hi Lady Sorbus I think that sonofkrypton went some way to answer what you are asking here but to make it clearer I will cut and paste if you dont mind its early morning here and my Aspergers syndromeseems to leave me at my most confused first thing



taken from Museum of Science http://www.mos.org/sln/Leonardo/LeonardoRighttoLeft.html (you can put in words of your own here and it will demonstrate the technique for you)

So for instance

Atlantis written by Leonardo would look like the left hand side of this image


and it seems evident to me that he was teaching his pupils this too as I use Marco d'Oggiono's painting of the last supper as it is in much better condition than the fresco in Italy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marco_d'Oggione

WHY is the question we should ask ourselves well the fact that as soon as Leonardo finished the fresco he knew it wasnt going to last and his in your face sized masterpiece would not stand the test of time and keep his secret safe in front of our eyes.

Imagine the magnitude of the fact he is pointing to here, that the last supper did not take place in Israel but in Alexandria up a light house , is that a truth that a dogmatic power structure would want us to know ?

ISA

there sayin if u mirrior it.. there a space ship...

Thank you for your well thought out reply can we discuss the truth further please I would love to hear peoples interpretation of what they all think the truth is and means from this research I am doing .

As for a city of great glory I have refered to it before now as potentially the kingdom of heaven on earth I will bring some more of my post here as it seems relevent to expand upon what appears to fall into place with this stuff here

An image of KV6 the tomb of Ramesses IX where the scarab with a female deity to one side and khepra to the other is not unlike like the image of the four beetles pointing towards the star on the ceiling of the masonic temple in london and with a little into research Ramesses IX on wiki we find that



where we find we are told on the British Museum website



I believe some of these glyphs on the carvings actually describe processes for the creation of something to do with flight if you notice the woman is holding to spherical vials and there is a crucible type object in the middle and the male figure seems to be instructing her ?





Granite a natural gamma source isnt it hmm nuclear powered space flight HMMMMM clever those Egyptian/Atlantean/Jews



Doesn't the scarab generally show a red spherical object between its legs

then theres the composition of the many many scarab jewellery relics found in the Mediterranean the vast majority being soapstone


CRYSTALINKS

The secrets in the pigment , pigments derived from copper me thinks vinegar and copper gets you tourquoise Ammonia(urine) on copper turns bright blue add some Hydrochloric Acid (stamach acid) and it goes Green.

this is particularily interesting if we are looking for ways of making maybe ancient versions of Printed circuit boards maybe using the hieroglyphs as the circuit



ISA

An ATS board user had some questions I want to include here

"1) Why do you say Thomas is pointing to the Northern Donkey in the constellation of The Asses and the Manger, instead of Orion? TO me, the stars you have suggested he is pointing to look ALOT more like the belt stars of Orion. "

Because in all my research people are pointing to this constellation It is an asterism think holy trinity (triple)



think of the Wreath with the apples on as an inner tube or a torus and remove the inner tube and sit where thomas is and look up its easy for me as I work in 3D animation so I tend to automatically take a 2d image and play with it in my head

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/AandM-1.wmv

Then start to think about christmas carols and see them as time coded clues rightly or wrongly I do and see through the traditionalism of them and see a more enlightening picture of advanced space travel where the son of God means as Michael Tsarion goes some way to explain means literally son of one who lives or is from the heavens where technology could afford you immortality !


something else I find quite striking is this excerp from

Visions of the Virgin Mary: An Astrological Analysis of Divine Intercession By Courtney Roberts



hmm another carol springs to mind !! (little donkey carry mary safetly on her way)


Hmm giants Titans Gods arent the titans credited for creating atlantis?



............

"2) Alot of this is based on the assumption that Jesus was a real man who had a real life with siblings and so on.
I personally do not believe this to be the case for reasons which are my own (lets not start discussing this and derail the thread tho). So my question ISA is, in your opinion, does whole thing still stand up if placed into the context of Jesus never having existed as a real man. "

In no way is this a derailer if anything it is at the heart of this quest for truth was he a real man or does this story get reinvented for the power it creates for those that use the story as the basis for religion.

I believe it goes back to the image of mary that reveals the bastet



and the fact jesus in this last supper is sat at the head of the table in the Pharos lighthouse so it makes the whole biblical story idea seem like a lie or maybe a rehashing of a much older story which has been suggested by many people before the difference is here I am going along way to prove it and there is some pretty comelling evidence not least of all this 40 mile by 60 mile scarab shaped city that is ATLANTIS

The protector of RA AMEN RA think of the word AMEN nobody seems to think twice as to why we say it but if this is based on Atlantian history obviously Jesus really was a great ruler that upset the Roman catholic Church and the Greeks and presumably the Jews he was going around telling his followers not to pay cesar his POLL TAX which oddly enough we in the UK are still paying to this day



in the gospels of Saint Thomas he sounds as though he isnt a Jew



Then he is quoted as saying at another part of the gospel



Hmmm cant see that would have pleased the romans !

So as for holding up whether or not this man was real and I do believe he lived he just wasnt the person the church would have us believe hmm another quote from the coptic gospel.



I find it interesting about the gosples that they are written in coptic and that the first coptic church was founded in Alexandria in 1 AD !!!!
Even more interesting is one of the opening passages while we are on the subject of immortality Gods and technology



bearing in mind the Symbol for Cancer used by the ancient Egyptians was the Scarab Beetle This all makes a deal more sense when you contemplate my post earlier about heracles/hercules what is a legend if not a story so ancient its suffered the preverbial chinese whispers and changed over mellenia but the story that legend could well have its basis in fact that has been distorted over time.





Strange how this Plato keeps popping his head up and there we seem to be discussing some form of STARGATE

So could we read that The Atlantians the people from the Scarab city where Crucifix (X) marked the spot, were sent by Hera to defeat Hercules and his army and destroy him but they were crushed ??



When The sun is in the sign of the scarab and the scarab is often seen and associated with a "SOLAR" disk


ISA

LOL

lol I do like a good death battle.........unfortunately I'm not even comprehending this one but I shall put on my helmet (and my thinking cap) and prepare for battle......... if I can work out what this thread is about.......admittedly I have not looked at all the pictures, so I will and see what I think....the evidence looks in depth and Jesus isn't my forte but according to what I can make out so far, the painting is in the Alexandria Lighthouse and the scarab beetle clues lead to a scarab beetle shaped rise that could have been an island in the eastern mediterranean...how is this island Atlantis? What are the similarities between it and any of Plato's description?

All looks very interesting though, I think bee would like this thread.

Here are some other images that had 33 degrees The original location of Atlantis hidden in them

John The Baptist By Leonardo



In this image above I find it interesting that Leonardo Hid the angle in the eyes a thing artists use all the time.

Another John the Baptist By Leonardo



This time the finger is the angle pointer but in this picture I think a clue is his staff and the Idea that using these staffs people could levitate Ill find the info I am refering to and post it here

But that fits with these guys here in this painting by Poussin Called the tomb of christ showing 3 guys with a staff each and again we see the location hidden in angles , almost like sign language that deaf people use , I see a similarity because these people have obviously sworn oaths not to speak of these things well they have kept their oaths but found a sneeky way to tell it anyway

Tomb of Christ



Here is A member of the Medici Family Called Maria de' Medici pointing for us again at an angle of 33 degrees. A portrait by Rubens



Maria de' Medici



The connection here is that her family came to power in 1400 in florence italy through banking I was looking at 1400 because it is the wavelength of the musical note G zero I saw this as a way of putting the O back in GOD as I remember after my grandfather died I was reading through his masonic Bible/Handbook and it struck me as odd that they never wrote the word GOD always G_D and as 33 degrees struck me as coordinates because of the use of the set square and compass a sailors navigation tools that G_D seemed to be a musical note a frequency and then I found that Leonardo was friendly with this family Historically Lorenzo de Medici



Lorenzo's Grandfather Cosmo started a library Which I will bet holds many clues



One of the images is of Geber the Alchemist pointing downwards towards 3 stones on the floor symbolising the asses and the manger constellation
This is a 15th century European portrait of "Geber", Codici Ashburnhamiani 1166, Biblioteca Medicea Laurenziana, Florence

Geber Pointing



ISA

Hi Glad you are here , it is indepth and has taken over my life the connection with plato here is quite solid that in the same writing he talks about atlantis he also defines his fifth platonic solid the dodecahedron a twelve sided figure made of pentagon faces and his discription of it is interesting

"There still remained a fifth construction (dodecahedron),
which the god used for embroidering the constellations on the whole heaven.”

and the fact this dome in leonardos painting is a dodecahedron



I read this as something to do with the energy of it in some way and the connection of the spaceship appearing in the image where Mary is Pregnant



and holding the knife that appears to have cut simon peters cheek



Concentric rings are something many refer to well heres a simple experiment to try bearing in mind the magnetic anomolie between the beetles fron legs which is where I am saying this spaceship scene is

take a strong magnet and three steel ball bearings a small one a medium sized one and a large one , stick the magnet on the large BB then attach the medium one to the large BB and finally the small one to the medium BB and pull the small one off and then reverse it so that the small BB is attached to the magnet then the medium one to the the small BB then the large one to the Medium BB and pull off the large one there is a difference in attraction strengths then imagine that they knew about this magnetic anomolie and built this concentric arrangement over it and use it to allow ships to launch and all that would require would be a reversal of the magnetic field aboard the ship and it would be repelled from the docking bay!

I know to some its far fetched but then the salvador dali with jesus posed in the left and right hand rule The fact that disney and dali worked together and that in the disney atlantis cartoon there are giant stones hovering above the city

Then theres the fact this city is underwater


ISA

I admire your thinking and think this ties in with something but I'm still sort of failing to see a link with Atlantis. Is the dodecahedron the only factor? I'm not really seeing a 12 faced dodecahredron in the painting....

I don't think there was a big mystery of where it was for anyone to code it up like that........if it was a place and people of the day, with Solon near 2000 years before Da Vinci knew and the Egyptians knew, no where is it said to be a 'secret' as such..

The 'Tomb of Christ' painting is called et in Arcadia ego. (even in Arcadia I exist) There is 2 versions of the painting.
"While the phrase "et in Arcadia ego" is a nominal phrase with no finite verb, it is a perfectly acceptable construction in Latin. Pseudohistorians unaware of that aspect of Latin grammar have concluded that the sentence is incomplete, missing a verb, and have speculated that it represents some esoteric message concealed in a (possibly anagrammatic) code. In The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail, Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln, under the false impression that "et in Arcadia ego" was not a proper Latin sentence, proposed that it is an anagram for I! Tego arcana Dei, which translates to "Begone! I keep God's secrets", suggesting that the tomb contains the remains of Jesus or another important Biblical figure. They claimed that Poussin was privy to this secret and that he depicted an actual location. The authors did not explain why the tomb depicted in the second version of the painting should contain this secret while the distinctly different one in the first version presumably does not. Ultimately, this view is dismissed by art historians."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_in_Arcadia_ego

I don't know why such an agressive post like this to the thread... Just because you don't believe it.

I don't believe in this too, but the guy went trough some hard work and some of the images are nice to see. Why should I bash him/her so hard just because I don't tihnk its real?

No, Poseidon created Atlantis and he was not a Titan. He was a God though. He was in fact a brother of Zeus and Hades who were the leaders in defeating the Titans in the cosmic war. The island of Atlantis was always there, even had people there when he got there, he just created the original hill and ringed enclosure and his descendants became the kings and rulers - demi gods.

I do think however your interpretations of myths is correct, broken down the story of Heracles appears to be one of him, a person, leading the Greek people into Greece originally. This comes from the story of the cattle of Geryon. The imagery connected with myths totally belie the original story. Celestially even more so imo.

I'm not sure what it's about completely, either, but its profound ignorance of the actual art history (which all this sort of the badly-informed, post-da Vinci Code nonsense hinges on --- thank you, D. Brown) of all these works is enough to make me not waste too much time with it. And it's all very John Nash-when-he-was-out-of-his-mind-y with made up lines on the pictures and the frantic links between different periods and styles.

But I think bee would like this thread, too.



I clearly don't think they should literally do this, so it's not "aggressive". It is a rather pointed commentary, though, and there's no reason commentary can't be humorous. Even one of the two people for whom it was suggested thought it was vaguely funny. If you think it's that offensive, report to it a mod.

--Jaylemurph

ISAEYEALLSEEING,

I am more than willing to discuss about this furthur... just IM me and we'll get right to it, i have alot to share.

On a different note... i have found the EXACT meaning, not by locating a source on the internet, but from my collective understanding of sacred geometry, atlantis, the stars, and the beetle.
You see, the squares located all around this picture with squares in them is the sacred geometry of a Pyamid, which in turn acts as a orgone generator. With all these pyramids on this picture, its easy to tell they are trying to make a point and emanate orgone energy while doing so. The beetles pointing towards the sun with the stars and moons is a collaboration of meanings, of what i get out of it, that the beetles stand for atlantis and the sun, stars and moon refer to the celestial acts on earth. (aka the sun for life, the stars for readings, and the moon for tides)
So, in summary it means the atlanteans have taught the egyptians how to read the celestial sky, communicate with other beings, and share their sacred geometry with then, in understanding how everything works. Or, in turn it could reflect the atlanteans all together, saying they have great knowledge of the earth, sun, moon and sky.

No... I don't think its necessary to report something to a mod. You have the right to express what you think, the same way the OP has the right to believe that he/she found atlantis. I just feel that commentary a bit exagerated. But thats me...

I don’t know. I once believed in Atlantis, but after so many epic fails on finding and or reporting it. I just don’t know.

Anyways, some images you have posted are really interesting and make you wonder if they were indeed made to hold secrets within its lines and colors.

I wish to tell the OP that I enjoyed the reading. Its being quite a while that UM forums don’t have good readings to create a good and civilized discussion about it. Don’t matter what one believes in!

That was rather the point, Feanor.

--Jaylemurph

I suppose when you think about it the reason we are seeing this dome and crucifix all around the world



is because this is what you would have seen on the journey to earth and for many many miles around the city of Atlantis



ISA

Heres something else that fits in the paintings done by marco d'Oggiono the painter pupil of Leonardo we see a pattern emerging fromfirstly the virgin of the rocks with 3 children two young children and the new born or soon to be born infant on the lap of mary only one of the three infants shows it genitals



But definatley leaning towards Identical twins as this image by marco in The Royal Collection london clearly shows twins kissing only the genitals of the male twin are showing there fore I would assume that to be jesus and the other to be Mary Magdelene



and when we mirror this image we get a beatuiful chalice shape



Then the later image again by marco of the what at first would appear to be three brothers but remember the arguements put forward by people revolving around the feminine looking john the baptist then the fact that the apostles were supposed to have been saddened by the constant kissing on the mouth of jesus and Mary and the confusion lie that the John figure is in fact mary as my mirror imaging has shown !!!

http://www.blumation.com/kheper33/images/THREE_BROTHERS.jpg

is this religeous control and alteration of the stories because the fact is that jesus married his twin sister and had children with her children of Royal decent

as recorded in the gospel of philip

59. The wisdom which (humans) call barren is herself the Mother of the Angels. (Pro 8:12+32, Lk 7:35!!, Ph 40) And the Companion° of the [Christ] is Mariam the Magdalene. The [Lord loved] Mariam more than [all the (other)] Disciples, [and he] kissed her often on her [mouth].¹ The other [women] saw his love for Mariam,² they say to him: Why do thou love [her] more than all of us? || The Savior° replied,² he says to them: Why do I not love you as (I do) her?

Hmmm



not so silly when you go back to the image of the waiting spaceship outside the window



and compare it to some images of this ship



http://www.metalog.org/files/philip.html

all this makes me think about the way royalty traditionally marry cousins etc

also the way in the gospel of saint thomas jesus is always getting at the question of two becoming one makes me think of the male female inside us all and what would two MIRROR IMAGED siblings souls be if they were to be married and have children , A PERFECT MATCH ?????

ISA

Okay bro, I'm really interested in your post here. Nice work. These are some very intruiging revelations. Let me ask you this, where did you come up with the names 'the sons of Belial and the Law of One?" What do you know about that? I seriously want to hear more about how you got that and what you think about that. You can even send me a PM if you like. The reason why I am asking because, perhaps you were already aware of this, but the Children of the Law of One and the Sons Of Belial are exactly the factions the psychic Edgar Cayce described in his readings on Atlantis. His readings on Atlantis are utterly fasicnating and as far as I knew, those names were not mentioned anywhere else, so I want to learn more, if possible. Cayce, in his readings noted that Sons Of Belial ARE winning in the present age, that thse Atlanteans are continuously incarnating and exerting their influence as they did in ancient times. The Children of the Law of One however are also returning, and we may be on the verge of some sort of rebirth as the fickleness of materialism begins to fade. Have you studied the Cayce readings on Atlantis? If not, you should. I want to hear more about your sourses regarding those factions. Thanks.

From My understandings and readings I see that the Sons Of Belial should actually be referred to as the children of Belial these are the the ones mentioned in Deuteronomy 13:13 KJV

"Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known"

Now in other parts of the bible they are referred to as the SONS of which I see as the male dominance in religion and how the words throughout religious texts reflect this.

Take the gospels of saint Thomas for example the direct translation reads

"This heaven will pass away and she who is above her will pass away"

in the english translation it just says "THE HEAVEN ABOVE WILL PAS AWAY AND THE ONE ABOVE THAT WILL ALSO PASS AWAY"

But all this comes as no surprise to me as I realized some time ago that the Yod the tenth letter of the hebrew alphabet and a very important symbol to the freemasons is actually the symbol assigned to the zodiac of Virgo (the virgin)



So symbolically the freemasons are using the power of woman for their own ends, while excluding them from their temples

It unquestionably refers to Hebrew peoples and this makes sense still today when we look at the traditionally Jewish dominated markets of gold , diamonds , etc hand in hand with their claim to the
"HOLY LAND" and we all know what trouble that causes.

I am not wanting to get into the discriminatory areas of peoples belief systems I find it can be very damaging for your soul and your mind creating anger and uncertainty within yourself ,
when all we have to do is follow our hearts, because instinctively we know right from wrong .

And I guess thats where this Atlantean Law of one comes Like some natural law straight from the great teachers like Buddha , Jesus , or Muhammad (PBUHS) to name but a few, a way of living
together in harmony without the need to feel jealous or resentment towards friend family or neighbor , indeed any fellow human being. A society where what we need is next to nothing , no bills to pay to power
greedy corporations and taxes to corrupt governments or alms to dogmatic religions. There was only going to be one thing and thats everything and how that connects is universally, and infinitely.

Its stupid to be afraid of anything really , and believe me being Aspergic thats took some thinking about as I get irrational fears all the time , but thats exactly what fear is, irrational.

ISA

Heres the scene from the window in the mirror image where mary is pregnant



as I see it in 3 Dimensions

ROYAL TRANSPORT SHIP AWAITING QUEEN MARY

ISA

That makes sense. So do you think the children of belial in deuteronomy, are in fact Atlantean? Is that a reference to it? I believe the flood is....

I guess theres no reason we cant assume that if the Bible is quite obviously flawed and inaccurate, that the flood could very well be the same flood that we read about in the Plato writings , tie
that in with the fact that scientists and archaeologists cant agree on the date of the sphinx or the pyramids.

Also if the suggestion here is that the historical Jesus was sat around having dinner with his friends in his lighthouse in Alexandria , at a period in time when the view from that window was of
the distant city of Atlantis prior to it being submerged , then I question and doubt a substantial part of our current history and religious stories.

Take the ideas of the church , that you cant marry your siblings or have relations with them , yet the bible clearly tells us stories conflicting those views, then the church condems gay people
and finds itself innundated with gay men and women , and deviants that interfere with their congregation of all ages.

ISA

This is amazing I have never studied this school of thought but I have looked at every link you have and am facinated, I will be going back to study your post more thank you for taking the time to do this I can see this is a tremendous amount of research. Aanica

Every Beautiful Person that responds in this way makes mylife worth living more and more.

I wish I had the money to go scuba diving in the med because I believe what I see with my eyes and my gut tells me this thing holds the answers the world needs right now, If they knew how to hover 15 mile high Cross in the sky which must surely weigh millions of tonnes they must have known much more than we do at our stage of civilization (hmmm civil seems the wrong term for the current state of affairs in the world).

I do believe because of the amount of things I have been shown that I have been given a part in what most people seem to believe is the awakening of the human consiousness and I honestly believe as Crowley that women will be the dominant sex as they were always meant to be. They are for the most part natural mothers , lovers and carers but have been dominated for millenia by the "stronger" sex but to me this alpha male is a bullying unnatural state of affairs , it just doesnt seem to go hand in hand with a humanity that is as intelligent as we have become.

It troubles me greatly when I watch TV that adverts encourage us to want more and more expensive luxurious things of material value, to purchase things we can ill afford , a sense of non achievement is transmitted in the darkest manner without a care for what this does to our self esteem mentally.

These companies are trapped like the rest of us in what seems to be a race to self destruction that we sleepily compete in while with blank faces (mostly) we see images of carnage and starvation , destruction and devestation , all caused , if we are honest, by the race we are enslaved into , a race to which there is no finishing line other than the annihalation of the vast majority of the world . One phrase that sums up what we face if we dont change is

“Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.”

Matthew 5:5

ISA

Through all this I have never stopped thinking about the fact that my star sign is capricorn opposite to cancer (scarab beetle) and my year of birth is 1969 , 69is the symbol for cancer my date of birth is 27th of december and My parents named me Nicholas for obvious reasons after the saint of christmas whose symbol is three golden balls, (the star sign asses and the manger is a triangle of three golden balls (stars) of light).

Oddly enough when I had to move from my mums house where I had been for eight weeks last year I joined easyroommate.com and left a profile looking for a house to share in Thorne where I work, and I took a guy up (footballer) on his offer of a three bedroom house which turned out to be give or take smack bang between St nicholas's masonic lodge and St Nicholas's church . In this church there is a beautiful window showing saint Nicholas holding the three golden balls.

Every morning I walk along St Nicholas's Road which then crosses another road and becomes North East Road (the direction of the Scarab city's Allignment)

ISA

The work also shows via mirroring the eternal Fractal Geometric. In that Geometric one may discern the sitting Budda or island molecule. This concept was well known to the ancients.

Orion

Can you see the image of Vishnu on the chest of jesus ?




Also did you see the image taht appeared to me using a fractal program of the swastica ?




ISA

ISA

1st thing is that the OP sounds a lot similar like a user who was on to the holy grail and gave a huge mumbo jumbo on numbers, paintings, angles and traingles just like in tis post.
2ndly, what exactly are you trying to prmotoe with the above quoted stuff?? if you want to discuss something discuss it here, dont try to hawk your website in here. read rules.
3rdly...the human mind is inclined to find objects in clouds, smoke and the particular photographs....they are plain photographs reflected and merged and of course i found a transformer, a sexy vixen and many more...

4th and final...where is the mention of atlantis in thw whole junk posted?
the Op found something interesting when he was playing around with photogrpahs and thought linking them to atlantis was a great idea! Worng! it is the one of the most idotic ideas i have ever seen!

WOW an intellect at last you have obviously read through all the information posted here and are prepared to go through each and every point and disprove them to support your acedemic styled opinions Hawking I dont think you will find I am hawking just constantly researching and expanding this post, politely answering the people who have taken the time to read and can actually type the text in a reply for themselves without the aid of a carer

Oh and as for the I am just trying to encourage people who visit here as guests to sign up and join the discussions OOPS YA GOT ME HAWKING FOR THE UM FORUM


Later (muscle bound Vermin )

ISA

<<flexing his Muscles>>> any time dude any time.

actually, i was away from Um for quite a long time, happy and mean to be back!!

Welcome Home

ISA

Hi Da Verm! Laying it on the line I see...........lol

Isaeyeallseeing: Seems to be a fair bit about all this on the net but I haven't seen anyone equate it with an advanced Atlantis civilisation with levitation. Possibly Leo was incorportaing some of his own technical ideas on spinning, levitating machines, which you can find in his inventions.

Nevertheless it is no more nonsense that some of my own Atlantis theories and so will give it my time. It is actually something to think about for sure, the location you give.

Slavisa Pesci, "an information technologist and amateur scholar," superimposed Leonardo da Vinci's version of The Last Supper with its mirror image (with both images of Jesus lined up) and claimed[5][6] that the resultant picture has:

a Templar knight on the far left
a woman in orange holds a swaddled babe in arms to the left of Christ
the Holy Grail used in the first Eucharist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Supper_(Leonardo)

I am finding this sort of interesting so had a play with mirror image myself. I have not used computer programs or anything but simply got a small rectangular mirror and held it vertically on da Vinci's paintings. I think the key is the nose in all his paintings. Many of his noses appear very straight, just right for placing the edge of the mirror on.
Starting with Mona Lisa. When you place a mirror at her nose with your right hand on the pic on a computer screen and do that with all of them you see some very interesting things. She looks even odder and more spacelike with her lack of eyebrows.

Firstly, the babies kissing are really kissing in that one, hold it on the babies nose who's head is higher. Mona has some interesting background and many Madonna pics have 2 babies then placed equally in perfect positions of what they would be sitting. Madonna with the Yarnwinder is interesting and Leda and the Swan even has Princess Leia's hairstyle! Not sure what I'm looking for but you might see something else.

I will say however that da Vinci's painting is not in very good condition even restored and it's quite hard to see out the windows. Check out this picture of it, you can see behind (Mary's) window all that is there is chipped paint, so we see it in making up the blue Vishnu image on Jesus' chest, it's just chipped paint making the image so how could Leonardo have painted in an image that appears in chipped paint? Where did you get the painting image that has been manipulated in your posts?

http://milano.arounder.com/da_vinci_last_s...T000005356.html

Still I found playing with the mirror quite fun.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...i%27s-work.html