ambelamba
May 31 2008, 07:12 AM
This issue came up in MUFON board. Do we have any chance of repelling the invasion from above? Can we repel the aliens like Viet Cong repelling Americans? I don't think we can. But what about your opinion?
dagreenbug53
May 31 2008, 08:39 AM
It very obviously depends on their technology.
If the main advantage they have is just light-speed travel, and they don't actually have any sort of super-armour, we'll be able to fight them off.
Vietcong were able to repel the Americans because Americans get hurt just like anybody else, despite them being technologically advanced in many ways, though not by much.
The problem is, if they have extremely advanced weaponry and armour, to the point where ours do very little or even nothing, we're screwed.
747400
May 31 2008, 08:44 AM
Don't worry, the president will protect us.
Bender.
May 31 2008, 09:12 AM
The gap between Star-Traversing Aliens and us is far beyond the gap between the U.S and the Vietcong.
We'd be squashed.
theSOURCE
May 31 2008, 10:38 AM
Simple answer: No.
Expanded in-depth and detailed answer: They would be like an 18 wheeler running over a 2 legged squirrel. The squirrel might attempt to bite the first tire coming it's way, but that's the last thing it would ever do.
And please 'scuse my rural analogy. I'm just tellin' it like I see it.
doesnt_matter
May 31 2008, 11:37 AM
QUOTE (ambelamba @ May 31 2008, 08:12 AM)

This issue came up in MUFON board. Do we have any chance of repelling the invasion from above? Can we repel the aliens like Viet Cong repelling Americans? I don't think we can. But what about your opinion?
No we can not. Unless they decide to occupy our planet and leave our ability for higher reasoning intact and expose us to thier technology for a prolonged period of time. Unlikely however.
Depending on what form of attack "they" would use, I'm sure the easiest would be to obliterate us either from space or from a toxin of some form (bacterial,etc) that will kill off all human life. They can wait up in their nifty ships while the denizens of Earth slowly die on the prison planet. Mass extinction. It could also be done by simply towing an asteriod of sufficient size along with them and ramming it into the Earth. But who knows how an alien thinks, maybe if htey exist , they have some really strange ways of destroying life forms.
The speculation is endless on this subject.
If they are here though, they've had plenty of time to destroy us, or to even enslave us. Neither is the case. I believe annihilation from aliens is very unlikely either because: they dont exist, are not here, or are here and have left us alone for probably a very long time.
REBEL
May 31 2008, 11:42 AM
lol! I like that...
'Can we repel an invasion from above'...like they pests or something (mosquitoes & flies)
Lilly
May 31 2008, 01:20 PM
QUOTE (REBEL @ May 31 2008, 12:42 PM)

lol! I like that...
'Can we repel an invasion from above'...like they pests or something (mosquitoes & flies)

Accurate analogy....after all "control your world" is the trademark for
for this company<click for link. Yep, "kills on contact (alien contact as well perhaps?), protects up to 3 months"!
NeoGenesis
May 31 2008, 01:34 PM
QUOTE (Lilly @ May 31 2008, 01:20 PM)

Accurate analogy....after all "control your world" is the trademark for
for this company<click for link. Yep, "kills on contact (alien contact as well perhaps?), protects up to 3 months"!

.Good link Lilly.Fit the Abrams tank to fire those on the incoming aliens
Even better.ICBM with warhead that has the liquid form of this that turns into gas when in contact with air.
Shoot em right through the front windshield of alien ship

This is our planet
theSOURCE
May 31 2008, 01:57 PM
QUOTE (Lilly @ May 31 2008, 07:20 AM)

Accurate analogy....after all "control your world" is the trademark for
for this company<click for link. Yep, "kills on contact (alien contact as well perhaps?), protects up to 3 months"!

The sad fact is, we would be the bugs.
Lilly
May 31 2008, 02:25 PM
QUOTE (theSOURCE @ May 31 2008, 01:57 PM)

The sad fact is, we would be the bugs.

All too correct my friend.

Any aliens capable of the advanced technology needed to travel vast interstellar distances would easily be capable of squashing us humans.
Methinks we'd best be very *nice* to any such visitors!
Bella-Angelique
May 31 2008, 02:27 PM
If we actually wanted to do something as silly as sucker punching a more advanced civilization, then our best bet would be to sup up a virus that we could survive that is not commonly found but is commonly invasive to multiple species and send them a specially designed Trojan horse package. Since they would have been watching us they would probably expect it so the delivery would have to be extremely clever, such as abandoned tech on the moon left there in advance on the off chance anyone should show up and go poking around for example.
Reptilian
May 31 2008, 02:43 PM
Only a savage would contemplate the possibility of hostility from a species capable of inter-stellar travel. They would have most likely solved all their economic and social problems and are not likely to be any threat to us.
I take it you're an American. Typical.
Bella-Angelique
May 31 2008, 02:46 PM
QUOTE (Reptilian @ May 31 2008, 10:43 AM)

I take it you're an American. Typical.
Correct, which is why I could read the topic written in English and understand how to answer the question also.
Maybe you should try re-reading it and not be so quick to bash another.
theSOURCE
May 31 2008, 03:25 PM
QUOTE (Reptilian @ May 31 2008, 08:43 AM)

Only a savage would contemplate the possibility of hostility from a species capable of inter-stellar travel. They would have most likely solved all their economic and social problems and are not likely to be any threat to us.
I take it you're an American. Typical.
All you can base your speculation on is what we know of the human race. Your comment shows that you're extremely narrow minded and somewhat of a speciest. I recommend that you hold back on the insulting comments, since you have no idea what a race of beings who evolved on an alien world may think of us.
Your bigotry speaks volumes, so I hope if we ever make contact with ET you are not the one to represent humanity.
DONTEATUS
May 31 2008, 04:49 PM
What ever country your from you must get a reality ck on this one! They are more advanced than we are ,proof being they have not contacted us! just DONTEATUS
WinstonSmith
May 31 2008, 06:02 PM
QUOTE (Reptilian @ May 31 2008, 10:43 AM)

Only a savage would contemplate the possibility of hostility from a species capable of inter-stellar travel. They would have most likely solved all their economic and social problems and are not likely to be any threat to us.
I take it you're an American. Typical.
I'll disregard the "American" comment, and address the former point. First, you apply human morality to a completely alien species. Just suppose that they are evolved in a highly territorial and hostile environment. It may be that their genetic imperative is to amass territory and eliminate competition. That would be their "morality". They may have eliminated their economic and social problems by eliminating competition and taking resources wherever they are found.
Then again, they may be so entirely different, that they are incomprehensible.
The only thing that is certain is that if a species survives, it has an inherent desire and ability to do so otherwise Darwinism would eliminate them.
There is also the possibility that even if they wished to preserve intelligent life, they might not recognize us as such. raccoons wash their food, and they have been attributed human characteristics for doing so. That does not mean we consider them human equivalents.
You are forcing human qualities on hypothetical beings. In the end the buffalo didn't have a say, and neither would we.
itsnotoutthere
May 31 2008, 06:11 PM
QUOTE (ambelamba @ May 31 2008, 07:12 AM)

This issue came up in MUFON board. Do we have any chance of repelling the invasion from above? Can we repel the aliens like Viet Cong repelling Americans? I don't think we can. But what about your opinion?
Well if we all stand on the tallest buildings waving plackards saying things like 'WELCOME E.T.' & 'STOP & SAY HELLO' I think we'll be ok.
Wallydraigle
May 31 2008, 06:37 PM
QUOTE (Reptilian @ May 31 2008, 09:43 AM)

Only a savage would contemplate the possibility of hostility from a species capable of inter-stellar travel. They would have most likely solved all their economic and social problems and are not likely to be any threat to us.
I take it you're an American. Typical.
Hi. Since you've taken the initiative in naming me a savage, I don't have any problem calling you a conceited doofus. And you're probably European. Typical
MID
May 31 2008, 06:39 PM
QUOTE (ambelamba @ May 31 2008, 03:12 AM)

This issue came up in MUFON board. Do we have any chance of repelling the invasion from above? Can we repel the aliens like Viet Cong repelling Americans? I don't think we can. But what about your opinion?
The thread assumes an "invasion". In fact, it says above, "Do we have any chance of repelling 'the invasion'...?".
What invasion?
747400
May 31 2008, 06:55 PM
I was going to say something.
I've decided it wasn't important.
So please, do carry on.
Eieam Wun
May 31 2008, 08:16 PM
...can we repel them, that's like asking if a lab rat can repel the scientist who put the rat there (or had it put there) and been experimenting on the rat the whole time. In short, nah its over.
The whynsos doing the laymen dance...sleep walking
MID
May 31 2008, 08:31 PM
QUOTE (747400 @ May 31 2008, 02:55 PM)

I was going to say something.
I've decided it wasn't important.
So please, do carry on.
Towknee
May 31 2008, 08:56 PM
Don't you think that sometime in the last 2000 years that they would have already 'invaded'? I don't see the purpose.. it would be like the government spending a bunch of money to invade an ant pile.
John A Spera
May 31 2008, 10:16 PM
QUOTE (MID @ May 31 2008, 02:39 PM)

The thread assumes an "invasion". In fact, it says above, "Do we have any chance of repelling 'the invasion'...?".
What invasion?
As I see it, the strong will always enslave the weak if they are able to do it. The thing to appreciate is exactle how this process or take over would unfold.
It is my understanding, that the attempt to control our thinking is the form that has been used in all other invasions. So that is what I expect to be attempted with the human civilazation. There are good reasons to not destroy the enviorment or kill off the mindless workers that the off work visitors intend to control.
The best kind of slaves to have are the ones who do not know they are slaves. We could say that this condition already exists to varying degrees within the world cultures today. We have police states and democrartic systems of government all working together to form a world economy. That is the common factor of mutual interest to all (or most of all) the people concerned.
What the invaders want, as I see it, is for us to work on to support their interest at the expense of our interest. This is the way the strong enslave the weak through out humanity at this time.
My conclusion is that there are off world cultures that will attempt to control our thought process in a way that makes us sub-survient to them. There are also off world cultures that would support humanity, if humanity has a strong enough will and desire to be maintain their own mental outlook as it relates to their specific human interests.
I do like the theme of this thread. It does ask a very good question. I myself wonder how many of us think seriousally about what is going on around us and what we are actually able to do to influence our own well being. What are we empowered to do and what are we likely to do are two different questions.
John
badeskov
May 31 2008, 10:59 PM
QUOTE (itsnotoutthere @ May 31 2008, 11:11 AM)

Well if we all stand on the tallest buildings waving plackards saying things like 'WELCOME E.T.' & 'STOP & SAY HELLO' I think we'll be ok.
They'd probably bugger off upon encountering a sight like that..or employ their sepur-mega-giga-uber-monstrous-death-ray-gun and elegantly remove the top couple of kilometers of the Earth's crust along with the atmosphere above it (and us)...better safe than sorry...
Cheers,
Badeskov
DigitalSentinal
Jun 1 2008, 12:30 AM
I'll be vectoring them in, cuz I really don't think they're evil anyhow. :/
the eternal me
Jun 1 2008, 06:23 AM
send batman after them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBsxqQIu_5shahahahahaahahaha
i think he is singing in some alien language.
truther
Jun 1 2008, 07:11 AM
QUOTE (ambelamba @ May 30 2008, 11:12 PM)

This issue came up in MUFON board. Do we have any chance of repelling the invasion from above? Can we repel the aliens like Viet Cong repelling Americans? I don't think we can. But what about your opinion?
Yes we can take down all alien threats, aliens are ancient and have amazing technology but they still operate in this realm, physical beings.
Spirits and demons are not bound by the laws of physics. In fact alot of aliens are demons, the greys specificly are nothing more than assembly line bodies for demons to ressurrect in. They are satans people, satans own grotesque creation. Most aliens are slow moving and hive minded, and very weak muscle-wise. Their technology is very advanced cuzz they been around since the beginning. Believe it or not all aliens are nothing to the Most High God and his son Christ. The Most High created the universe and everything in it, including satan who created aliens. Theres been stories of people praying when encountering aliens and the aliens left them alone. They cant stand Christ and all things holy, it burns them. Its the non believers that are in danger of aliens, they have no faith therefore God will not help them. If you ever encounter an E.T. ask the Lord to burn them and cast them into the abyss.
bmk1245
Jun 1 2008, 07:36 AM
All we need is just to make 'crop circles' in form of big giant middle finger (or other equivalents) all around the world - that would scare them out of this part of the galaxy
truther
Jun 1 2008, 07:40 AM
QUOTE (747400 @ May 31 2008, 12:44 AM)

Don't worry, the president will protect us.
Alien greys behind Bush,watch amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O88tqxdMZqU
747400
Jun 1 2008, 09:57 AM
QUOTE (truther @ Jun 1 2008, 08:40 AM)

that amuses me greatly. Alien to HQ: "Nope, there's no intelligent life here. Ok, let's be going."
Actually, I think what's been said already by a few has some weight to it: just because humans tend to regard anywhere new as something to be conquered, and the inhabitants (human, animal, whatever) as something to be cleared out of the way before we can get on with our conquest, why do we assume that that's why all non-human races would behave? isn't that just doing what humans always do, judging others by our own standards? Just because that's what it's like in the movies, does it have to be true, necessarily?
just a thought.
Lilly
Jun 1 2008, 10:16 AM
QUOTE (747400 @ Jun 1 2008, 09:57 AM)

that amuses me greatly. Alien to HQ: "Nope, there's no intelligent life here. Ok, let's be going."
Even more amusing when one realizes the 'alien' image in that video is most likely the reflection of a flower pot or something equally prosaic.
QUOTE
Just because that's what it's like in the movies, does it have to be true, necessarily?
Frankly, with all the talk about aliens, demons, satan's minions, burning them with religious icons etc.; I'm inclined to say far too many people take the movies far too seriously.
Lux Felix
Jun 1 2008, 03:26 PM
well hmm alien invaders?
well we dont know anything about them, they can be good or evil, how can we possibly know? honestly.
But I dont belive we will be alble to fight off the invasion.
Hitman
Jun 2 2008, 03:58 PM
I think first we need to prove there is an actual invasion before we try to repel one. It's too bad the UFO community is full of nuts and gullible people who believe anything they hear on Coast to Coast AM and The Jeff Rense show. They take what people on those shows say as gospel truth and then they don't realize what nuts are on that show spewing complete BS to make money. Yep it's all about money, I wonder when the "alien video" guy is gonna start selling his DVD with the full video on it.
It's so sad to see something worth investigated tainted by money grubbing sharletons. This is why we get question like this. I tell you what, it's easy to repel an invasion. Just stand outside with a rifle pointed up at the sky. When you see a UFO, shoot it. If it lands and the aliens get out, don't fire until you see the grey of their skin.
Hitman
Gunmunky
Jun 2 2008, 07:57 PM
I seriously doubt that if they can get here, they will somehow be so little advanced we could win. We have some pretty deadly stuff, however they probably have ways to kill us in less than a heartbeat that do not require loud bangs and large machinery. So I think we would be toast.
Eieam Wun
Jun 2 2008, 09:04 PM
QUOTE (Hitman @ Jun 2 2008, 11:58 AM)

It's so sad to see something worth investigated tainted by money grubbing sharletons. This is why we get question like this.
...I agree, but the money grubbers aint the cause of limited investigation, its the phenomenon itself, it's too elusive, as it has been said rather redundantly, the only thing we know is that ufo's are just that unindentifiable flying objects, its human nature to take advantage of every possible angle especially if one lives in a economical society where that is the bases of such. One who lives in a capitalistic society complaining there are poor people is not just a moron but an oxy one at that, ya can't have one with out the other, aint saying I agree but...
the whynsos blows through once again twice to give
Brahmana
Jun 2 2008, 09:46 PM
QUOTE (747400 @ May 31 2008, 04:44 AM)

Don't worry, the president will protect us.
If you mean W, yeah he will. He'd declare war on them before we knew they were even hostile.
Eieam Wun
Jun 2 2008, 11:25 PM
QUOTE (brahman1888 @ Jun 2 2008, 05:46 PM)

If you mean W, yeah he will. He'd declare war on them before we knew they were even hostile.
...only if they have oil
the whynsos just another means yet still so nicely done
Elite
Jun 2 2008, 11:42 PM
considering they have the technology the travel millions of light years and most likely can travel at light speed then they would probably have advanced armour and weaponry and our earthly weapons would do nothing
so the most likely thing that would repel them or kill them alltogether would be our earth germs and viruses which just like when colonist spread smallpox to the native americans the aliens would have no immunity to it and would die out quickly
Tiggs
Jun 2 2008, 11:48 PM
QUOTE (itsnotoutthere @ May 31 2008, 06:11 PM)

Well if we all stand on the tallest buildings waving plackards saying things like 'WELCOME E.T.' & 'STOP & SAY HELLO' I think we'll be ok.
Ehn. Didn't work out so great in Independence Day.
What you really need, apparently, is an Apple Laptop, in order to interface with the Mothership and upload a virus, because all Alien hardware is Apple compatible, and as such, has never been subjected to a virus before.
Not.
Eieam Wun
Jun 2 2008, 11:57 PM
QUOTE (Tiggs @ Jun 2 2008, 07:48 PM)

Ehn. Didn't work out so great in Independence Day.
What you really need, apparently, is an Apple Laptop, in order to interface with the Mothership and upload a virus, because all Alien hardware is Apple compatible, and as such, has never been subjected to a virus before.
Not.
...wow haven't thought about that in a while, a bit of a non sequitor, after seeing will smith punch the alien in his amazing bio suite I was like, "ok, I've been here way too long"
the whynsos now we can follow the losers or follow who won-
Majestic Moose
Jun 3 2008, 02:40 AM
It does depend soley on how advanced the alien's military technology is. I personally belive that we belong to an overly aggresive species in the galactic community.(Not claiming to know of alien species in existence, I just belive that the possibility of aliens is incredibly high) Most of our human phsycology is based on competition, which is very important for out survival as a species. Perhaps an invading species doesn't do their home work and they get totally blown away by the technology we have developed in our endless effort to either eliminate or supress other humans. I do beleive that our biggest threat from any extra-terrestrial biology would be the bacterium they bring along with them, or if like the Andromeda strain, are a virus themselves.
Majestic Moose
Jun 3 2008, 02:50 AM
QUOTE (Elite @ Jun 2 2008, 06:42 PM)

considering they have the technology the travel millions of light years and most likely can travel at light speed then they would probably have advanced armour and weaponry and our earthly weapons would do nothing
so the most likely thing that would repel them or kill them alltogether would be our earth germs and viruses which just like when colonist spread smallpox to the native americans the aliens would have no immunity to it and would die out quickly
I would disagree. Like I have said, it depends on the cultural signifigance that weopons played in the society of the invaders. If the invaders never had internal conflicts as a species and they were the only advanced species on their planet then I would say that they would not have a strong focus on the development of weopons. On the other hand, I don't think such a species would ever be worried about invading our planet, as they would be very intimidated by our weopons.
My point is, just because a civilization developes one technology to a very advanced point, doesn't mean they must have done so for every technology. I think the best example of this is the Egyptians. They were able to create gigantic structures without gas-powered machines or electricity, but they hadn't even come across the wheel. Also, they never developed roads because they used boats to traverse their country using the Nile and irrigation channels.
Eieam Wun
Jun 3 2008, 02:55 AM
...ever see the episode of the twilight zones where they turned that one block of people against each other, that my friends would be something to consider considering the state we are in now. Of course we should be asking or including our thoughts about the obvious, why invade us to begin with?
the whynsos, nights like this I wish that rain drops would rise to the occasion and fall
Plainbob13
Jun 3 2008, 03:01 AM
I gave this a lot of thought. And here is how we repel the invasion. Roseanne Berr and Rosie O'donnel! When the mother ship shows up we launch those two at them. They will run back to thier planet faster then a fat man to a pie.
Aanica
Jun 3 2008, 03:28 AM
QUOTE (ambelamba @ May 31 2008, 02:12 AM)

This issue came up in MUFON board. Do we have any chance of repelling the invasion from above? Can we repel the aliens like Viet Cong repelling Americans? I don't think we can. But what about your opinion?
No, I dont think all of us will survive that only the resistance...
Shankpin
Jun 3 2008, 03:29 AM
they may abort mission, get off, then send those two up and out!! That's a lot of aliens and no way to send them back.
REBEL
Jun 3 2008, 05:35 AM
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Jun 3 2008, 12:31 PM)

I gave this a lot of thought. And here is how we repel the invasion. Roseanne Berr and Rosie O'donnel! When the mother ship shows up we launch those two at them. They will run back to thier planet faster then a fat man to a pie.
That'd be
inhuman of us. We might also be violating some kinda
Galactic Geneva Convention.
Brahmana
Jun 3 2008, 03:50 PM
Even if there are aliens, we have no reason to actually believe they would or could invade at this point. While some abduction cases appear to be hostile, there is still no evidence that they plan to attack us. I think its something we needn't even consider, really. LOL if I thought they were going to invade, I don't think it would be coming down en masse ufos, I think it would be more like the X-Files story arc. "They've been here a long time, agent Mulder." More Invasion with Nichole Kidman than War of the Worlds. Human alien hybrids, baby!!! They're already here plotting our demise. When you were at the checkout line at the grocery store, and that weird guy in front of you, when the clerk handed him his change and he stared at it in his hand like he'd never seen money before......human alien hybrid. When you say hello to someone and they stare at you blankly, like their searching through a database of possible responses to your greeting like the Terminator, human alien hybrid. The invasion will be from within not without.
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