Sorry for wasting your time but this has to be seen to be believed. Up there with 9/11.

The Phantom time hypothesis is a theory developed by Heribert Illig (born 1947) in 1991, which suggests that the Early Middle Ages (more precisely, the period 614–911 AD) never occurred, meaning that all artifacts attributed to this period are from other times and that all historical figures from this period are outright fabrications. The vast majority of historians believe this theory to be wrong.

The basis of Illig's claims is the paucity of archaeological evidence that can be reliably dated to this period; perceived inadequacies of radiometric and dendrochronological methods of dating this period, and the over-reliance of medieval historians on written sources. For Western Europe, Illig claims the presence of Romanesque architecture in the tenth century as evidence that less than half a millennium could have passed since the fall of the Roman Empire, and concludes that the entire Carolingian period, including the person of Charles the Great, is a forgery of medieval chroniclers, more precisely a conspiracy instigated by Otto III and Gerbert d'Aurillac.

The theory also stems from the belief that during the introduction of the Gregorian calendar in Europe (1582 AD), while compensating for a ten day discrepancy in the old Julian calendar, many dates were falsely (or ineptly) recalculated as the new system created a thirteen day discrepancy. The original mathematical blemish was attributed to the Julian year being 1.3 minutes too long (which is commonly agreed as factual).

As a history student I find that laughable. I think that there are cases where obscure historians want attention and don't want to do the work in order to get it, so they come up with whackjob theories like this to get it.

Oh no, not another 911 conspiracy!

Not this stupid idea again. It's been discussed at length here.

Not to offend the OP, but to believe this idea is to subscribe to the worst sort of militant ignorance. Although I am fascinated by the dates picked to define the EMA. Talk years with virtually nothing significant going on.

--Jaylemurph

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Yea. Ok. Soooo......... What happened to the missing time? And how did this guy get a degree?

I didn't write it. I saw this on the net and thought that it would great if there was a conspiracy on here that we could all agree was rubbish. I'll have to look at the link you made, hopefully no-one does believe this.

There can't be anything to this conspiracy, as Tesla wasn't involved.

(Bit of an in-joke there.)

Oh, they do. There's nothing so stupid that someone, somewhere doesn't believe it.

[The current limit was someone asking if Doctor Who was real. Doctor Who.]

--Jaylemurph

Of course he was. Who else would have had the smarts to set up the HAARP time-manipulation apparatus to delete those years from history?

I think any good UM member would have to know they were all abducted by aliens, yes?

Reading articles like this just makes me want to bang my head against a wall. Or more appropriately the ORIGINAL writer of such an article how they can call themselves Historians is absolutely disgraceful, just to think that a respected institution could ever have opened its door's to such a figure makes me feel ill.

And yet the Chinese continued to document everything that happened...
Maybe a localized time event? Sure it was.

Actually, this strikes me as stupider than asking if Doctor Who was real.

Both involve an equally disturbing inability to tell truth from fiction, or maybe more precisely, to be unable to say what reality is. Kind of like a stupidity-induced acid trip.

--Jaylemurph

Speaking of a puke fest...There are also "people" out there that keeps denying the holocaust!

Those are some dangerous individuals.

Not that I'm in any way supporting Holocaust deniers, but there a very stupid but salient political point to it. I'm not sure what exactly, suggest the EMA didn't happen achieves.

--Jaylemurph

Sorry, Jaylemurph, but that would be me. It all came about when, after several attempts to schedule an appointment for a physical, I was informed that my doctor was always on holiday no matter when I called. I came to the conclusion that he was indeed a time traveller (apparently, he was off "making time" with one of his nurses).

Badum tsh!

Come on, people. Realistically, this historian is just doing what all scientists try to do-- trying to find a reasonable, inclusive explanation for unexpected variations in data. The problem is that we don't have as many artifacts from these centuries as one might expect. This historian's theory explains the aberrations in the archaeological record with the elegant simplicity of all great breakthroughs.

It simply doesn't make sense to assume that we haven't found all the major sites yet. An equally ridiculous hypothesis is that during these centuries a lot of things were made of more perishable materials. By far the most logical solution to the problem is that these centuries simply never existed at all. There was a giant time warp. The millions of artifacts that we do possess from the EMA have been trumped up by an immense international conspiracy which has lasted more than 1,000 years.

I am intrigued by your theories and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. You do take checks, right?

--Jaylemurph

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What exactly are you saying, Jay?

I'm saying there's an understandable reason to denying the Holocaust -- you can use it to further your anti-Semitic, pro-White Power rhetoric, for example, or use it as a piece of your "The Jews are In Control" CT.

Conversely, I'm not sure what claiming the EMA didn't happen achieves, or what it could be used for, except a sort of general anti-intellectualism that's been in America for decades.

--Jaylemurph