I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you haven't read all the threads I'm involved with concerning vampirism.


Obviously it isn't any easier to prove they exist, read the other posts of mine and you'll see why.
And how will you determine if this person is indeed a vampire?
Seems like no one can scientifically disprove it to me? Just as I can't offer any adequate and acceptable (not that I haven't tried) proof to the skeptics here.

Persecution complex becomes you.


The onus of proof lies squarely upon your shoulders. This is just silly. Anyone can make outlandish claims, and the burden of proof lies upon them, to prove their claim.

Oh, and you're more of it. Nyaah!

too bad ya can't delete these

too bad ya can't delete these

LOL, if the shoe is shoved onto your foot, might as well wear it.
Now, how is that? This is not my thread, and the only 'outlandish claim' made was that vampires didn't exist. Don't be backing out of this one, I expect as much comment as I gave you in the many threads where I was on the run. Now, it's your turn . . . start talking.

Sweety I doubt you are because you only have two symptoms you listed

Let me give you an example of my symptoms to better help you understand of what I mean and I've been to doctors daily for over four years

-fibro-extreme tender points/muscle tension
-migranes
-dizziness
-chronic insomnia
-severe fatigue
-abnormal blood
- sensative eyes
- can hear/smell/sense better than an average human
This is shown on many occasions, one when I was actually at a neurologist for 'migranes' and I told him and the tech I smelled pizza when the door was closed, they said I was lying, and I said no I really smelled it, then they just ignored it, until we went out of the room to checkout went five doors down and they were eating pizza at the front office. I've also helped as a 'smoke dector' from vents being overheated with lint. ha-ha
-My sleep rhythm is naturally noctunal, I've tried to fix this by getting a day job as well as trying various medications, none which have helped me and so hence my insomnia
-drugs do not affect me like a normal people
-unknown allergies
-extreme thirst/hunger (goes back between diabetes to hypoglecmia) For ex. When I get my blood work on the first part of the month my glucose level will be sitting nicely at 90 something, then a few weeks later it will shoot down to 40 and they still haven't figured it out.
-Same thing with prolactin level which preganant woman have, but I am not and it is twice of what it should be, but ironically it sometimes also balances out perfectly as if nothing were wrong...and again they don't know why it goes up and down like this

Downsides is that sometimes I am not allowed to drive due to the severity of it 'sensory overload' even where sunglasses at night..which doesn't really help

For those who know where I am getting at good, for those who don't and are only thinking about the 'movies' in the posts that they are writing well then you wouldn't understand where I was coming from.

hmm.. well one of the predictions of the mayans and and pleadians besides 2012 * excuse my spelling* was that towards these years most or some humans senses will increase more than others and we will be able to see things clearly, but of coarse it all depends if you belive in that stuff. your case just reminded me of that though.

So by reading your posts, I'll be convinced? I dont think so. I think you're not understanding how this you-make-claim-then-prove-it deal works. Otherwise no one will bother with you.

So you can't prove they exist. After how many hundreds or thousands of years and you can't figure out how to prove they exist. Hmmmmm...

We see this all the time... See, you're starting to get nasty because no one believes you. Right on schedule.

Edited because I confused the OP (who has been quite respectful) and the EtuMalku character.

Excellent post Puridalan. I too suffer from an ailment, and weirdly, I also went to a doctor for diagnosis!

I can't believe this idiotic argument is still going.

You still think you're a vampire? Try this:

Go stand in the midday sun while eating something with garlic, while wearing a cross.

If you explode, you're a vampire. If you don't, go see a doctor.

See this is exactly the antagonistic crap I'm talking about.

LadyHay: I 'know' you will never believe me because you have already made up your mind
No, I can't prove they exist over thousands of years, it is like proving there is God or you have a soul.
And what is this "right on schedule" thing? Don't tell me everyone here intentionally conspires to anger other members who are just trying to argue their side of the story?

No offence, kiddo, but the argument for vampireism is that your sleeping patterns are "different" is pretty terrible. For two months I myself was doing that... going to sleep at 5 AM and then waking up the next afternoon or evening. Wanna know why? Didn't have a job, didn't have school I had to attend. I was just LAZY and screwed up my sleeping pattern myself. Not hard to do.

Albeit, the dizziness is something different. They may be connected and they may not be. Seen a doctor yet?

Sorry bud, but you know nothing about me. Don't ever pretend you do. Although I will say, my not believing your claims has nothing to do with me having already made up my mind, but has to do with your claims, which lack anything for me to make up my mind upon!

When people ask for more proof or express doubt, you, the claimant, get pissy. And then call others antagonistic. I could have called it from the minute you started posting. Don't feel bad. You're not the only one. It seems that people with claims like this who don't get the expected response get more abusive and more aggressive to the naysayers, erroneously believing that it makes their point better. "Too bad you can't delete these"??!!

Edited: Thanks Cleo! You summed it up beautifully.

like what everyone else said, go find a doctor.

Bud? Am I pretending I know something about you? Have you read my explanations and comments concerning vampirism? I would like you to show me where I got pissy? I don't feel bad, just as you don't pretend you can assess what I fee, Missy. I am not looking for any expected response and I am not getting abusive, read the commentary and see for yourself
. "Too bad you can't delete these"??!! What's your point here? I messed up two posts and started again, I merely wanted to have them deleted . . . it seems like you have joined the frenzy of rabid dogs here that are just biting whatever moves.

Read my posts on vampirism, it makes sense, it explains a lot and it is the truth.

Em hotep LadyHay

I need some help with my german shepard half. Every time i'm walk down the street and a car goes by i chase it. I keep trying to bit the mailman too. Please help me!

I went and looked at four pages of your posts (as you requested), and didn't find much in the way of explanations. I did, however, see a lot of posts where you get pissy. Sorry, but s'truth.

I actually would like it if you provided at least a definition of a vampire, the one that you go by, but weirdly, you have not even provided that. I have googled your avatar name and came up with the same vague postings all over the 'net.

So, really, can you blame me for not believing you have a lot to offer?

You need half a rawhide chew. It will help.

I VANT TO DWINK VUR BLOOD! hahahahahh hohhoohohoh

Puridalan, I can't recall whether you've mentioned this or not, but have you ever had extensive genetic testing done to determine any abnormalities you may have?

This topic is going nowhere.

Did it really have anywhere to go to begin with?

Yes, I've been to endocrinolgoist and one even refused to look at the information saying it was too far removed, until I gave it to another doctor and he was shocked that the endocrinoglist said that and did some test himself. It shows that not all doctors are patient or willing to really help you out, and if that's the case you shouldn't be near them. Anywho, I do have an odd genetic history and since I am female I can have 'it'. If you've ever watched Lorenzo's oil you see that the mother can be the carrier and the father the transporter, this is like the opposite. Where my father would be the carrier, but the female gene the transporter thus being able to re-act it back out. Ironically, my grandmother on my dad's side does not have it just the cousins, but it seems like I have some odd branch of it. It seems to be something due with both endocrine/neruologist but haven't picked anything up on the neural end being that I've had MRI's, CT scan w/wo dy, SPECT scan, PET scan, Pitutary scan specifically, EEGs so ya basically like everyone possible

Information on my history:

Paternal Grandmother’s Side:

Grandmother’s Cousin-Began menses at age of 10 ½. Started suffering severe migraines at that age. They left her bedridden with vomiting lasting about 3 days. This would occur monthly, continuing into adulthood. These migraines stopped after she had a stroke due to an accident at the age of about 39. She has never suffered a migraine since. Diabetic now.

Grandmother’s Cousin’s Daughter:
Sub acute thyroiditis
Nos hyperthyroidism
Adrenal insufficiency
Pituitary neoplasm
Panhypopituitaryism
Addison’s disease
Hypoglycemia

Grandmother’s Cousin’s Second Daughter:
Thyroid mass
Elevated thyroid antibodies

Grandmother’s Cousin’s Granddaughter:
Migraines in early teens, does not have them on a continual basis.Paternal Grandmother’s Side:


I seem to be an 'abnormal' case in which they may never figure out the cause, none of my family members have been properly treated either going away by some freak chance or slowly 'growing' out of it, though seems like I may be one of them that is stuck with it for their lifetime.


To other post, for those speaking of vampirism and are poking jokes at the movies and novels but nothing else than I have nothing further to say to you. However, for those that do know vampirism on 'both' ends will not really understand unless you are one of the people that actually have to yes deal with it, if not be grateful. The greatest comedy masks beneath tragedy.

I think you might have a delayed sleep phase. Maybe you can ask your doctor about it.

haha on the delayed sleep phase all they do for that is change the cycle by using light therapy or drugs...neither worked on me, though it has done wonders on some people so could work for her never know, thing they told me was consistancy

So far, I haven't seen anyone explain vampirism on "both" ends. So far it seems to be a cult of people who call themselves that. How would I know if I were one, since I don't know the criteria and no one will come forth with it.

I really don't understand about your medical condition and how it makes you a vampire. Maybe I missed that post. I did have a look though. I have a medical condition that seems similar to yours. Hmmmm

lol how similar are we talking about here, and you have to be careful with similarties because in the medical field the list is practically endless and poor souls that have porphyria are teased to be 'vampires' but of course they are not but the condition leaves the sterotypes.

I am willing to give you a website in further to explain the 'other' side if you don't mind here they are:
http://sphynxcatvp.nocturna.org/

No, I do not have any affliations to any cult/subgroup or any other weird relgious cults

That is just one website, but it has a good bit of info, so I'll let you start with that and please no skimming.

Thanks!

From the website:

This is a support site for real vampires, those who think they might be real vampires, or those knowing someone who might be a real vampire, even someone who's just curious about this whole "real vampires stuff". Included here are pages with support information, anecdotes, advice, articles, and more. It is my belief that everyone needs a starting point somewhere, and someone to say they're not alone. I offer suggestions and guidelines only, each of you are free to decide for yourselves how you will live your life and, if desired, contribute to the vampiric community.

Just remember, the world hasn't really changed, only your perspective of it...


Oh, brother. Maybe it helps if you read it while wearing your silly vampire eye-contacts?

Oooh, I'm getting some of those! They're called "Louis" after my favorite, totally living, nonfictional, Anne-Rice-is-a-stage-persona-they-really-do-exist, vampire. I am deffinitely on my way to becoming a blood-sucking sistah!

Ok, trying to get this straight. It seems that there are two things at play in this thread here. Those who have porphyria, and those who claim to be real vampires. I'm confused. Are you saying you are/have both? Yes, I am aware of what porphyria is. I work for a hepatologist/gastroenterologist. It is a true medical condition, so what does that have to do with that website you posted? I thought that porphyria sufferers wanted to get away from that stereotype. Sorry. Just confused. Maybe you were just supplying that website as an interest separate from porphyria. If so, sorry. I'm sick with a head cold and not thinking great today.

This should cover a 100% of them. They think. Nothing more. Just plain silly.

Although I know this will go nowhere, I'll give it a shot anyway

I don't know how religious any of you are here, but in Judaism there is a branch called Kabbalah. Within the Kabbalah there is studies of vampires, Demons and other 'silly' things.

Here is the link
http://hillel.myjewishlearning.com/ideas_b...Kab_Robinso.htm

There is also a well known branch in the FBI that deals with the vampires, demons and other "silly" unexplainable things.

Oh, wait, no. That's a show. It's called THE X-FILES!

Fictional. Like vampires. What makes a religion's study of such things so much more important than science's attempt at doing the same thing, only to debunk it as impossible?

No I was speaking about how yes porphyria sufferers hate being related to vampires because they are not and it is only a medical condition, in which most of the time their canines looked prolonged due to the paleness of the gums causing them to look like FICTIONAL vampires you hear out of movies and what not. I did not claim myself to be any of those things, I was merely stating an example.

As for the rest of you I asked if you would READ it, not read the front page then click out, obviously you read none of the information and for that you deserve no decent response back in that you are too ignorant to even read a decent amount of the pages, for those who have you can continue to criticize and debate, for those who haven't don't waste my time with your poor overused remarks.

LOL .. not really i just find it pretty pathetic.

Oh, but I should. Cuz after reading every single post in this God-forsaken thread, it was either jokes or call some people stupid. And I didn't want to be so mean

No, that was merely all you choose to get out of this a 'joke or call someone stupid' you didn't want to see the other options, for example maybe do a little reading, there is a difference from plain stupidity and laziness.

SphynxCat: Why do we use the term "Mundane"? - They use it because its typical Anne Rice vocabulary.

Well, I've read through much of that site and, as described by them, I am a vampire.

Then you've obviously just been skimming the site, or where some of the people have written, note that it said you MAY be and that these SYMPTOMS are not limited to that. It's like saying because I like the night, I must be a vampire. No, no and no, you could have almost all of those symptoms and still NOT be a vampire ha-ha, it's discerning what is truely wrong with you. Like I said in the medical field things can appear to be very similiar for certain diseases, but in fact are very far off and it can be very difficult to distinguish. In fact as you know the skin disease I mentioned in most cases is very hard to diagnosis most of the time because it can go in 'phases'. Same thing for other medical problems as well, just because you have the symptoms does not mean you have that disease. Very important to remember.

Is it too much to ask for your definition of "vampire," since we're all so hopelessly taken in by Hollywood?

Ha! Are you freaking kidding me? When I was young (younger I suppose), before I got braces, my teeth were all ****ed up. Totally "vampiric" according to the movies and my little playmates (see a picture of a young George Harrison, that's what they looked like). That's when my whole vampire thing began. When I turned 14 I went through this terrible Gothic-vampire phase... just an inoccent interest, but believe me, I did a lot of reading. Very much so on different abnormalities (physically, mentally) that led a lot of misguided people to jump to a certain conclusion about a certain fictional monster who doesn't like the sun/"can't endure it". I joined a chat, talked to tons of absolutely self-indulgent people who reached for an easy, romantic idea without looking at the perfectly scientific facts first. Hell, I became one of them when my sleeping patterns were all messed up (because I'd actually done a few all nighters with friends and disrupted my typical sleeping pattern, I assumed afterwords when I got a grip on reality). I was all "omg, staying awake all night, sleep all day, must be a vampire!"

You think this is the first time I've heard about people thinking they're creatures of the night, or werewolves, or something else absurd? You think I'm a skeptic? You do not know me. There are a lot of people who think they're vampires. It's fashionable and faddy in some circles. And totally fu**ing ridiculous.

(Also, in your reply, for someone with such an apparent affinity for reading, you grammar, as well as punctuation, was atrocious.)

Edit: Also, who is ragging on Anne Rice's vocabulary, huh? She's a fantastic, brilliant writer!! Long live Louis!! And Daniel, ooooh... And Khayman!

Thank you, the first thing people point out when they have no real argument is that one has horrible grammar. I am really sorry that you actually thought you were a vampire, again that wasn't my fault you thought that ha-ha. I will continue no further with my discussion until you decide to read because now you are just rambling about yourself, until then I'll have no replies.

Thank you though I know how much my grammar sucks!

You are soooo serious! I KNEW I should have put "may". Sorry for not. I could have saved you a lecture.
I know, I know... The listed symptoms don't necessarily mean anything. There are disclaimers on every page with extreme emphasis on just that. I actually liked that about the articles. The authors try their damnedest to give wannabes (which I am certainly NOT) other explanations. Heck, there are several pages that are dedicated to giving the explanations of potential "symptoms". Its very good of them. And believe it or not, I did read every relevant article on that site from beginning to end (Didn't read about coping and whatnot). Most of it was fairly consistent and well written.
No need to lecture me ever, really. Just discuss and clarify. I keep an open mind and think things through completely, and trust me when I say I'd never jump to such a severe conclusion due to a list on a website.

Note my quote.
She truly is a fantastic, brilliant writer, and I wasn't ragging on her vocab one bit. Gotta admit "mundane" is an oft-used word of hers, though! Its too big of a coincidence for them to be using the word in that context, considering I almost never hear anyone use the word "mundane".

Old school: Blah, blah, I vant to drink your blood.

Middle school: Join us! Forever we can rule the night!

New school: Hi. I like internet games and drinking blood. Party 2 nite. BYOB (bring your own blade).

Puridalan, you've conveniently ignored my posting/request.

On the website you posted, I also noticed a vampire definition was hard to come by, too. Might I ask, why is that? Are you afraid to define what it is you hope to represent?

The vampire is first and foremost a condition of the soul. The human soul has been destroyed and in it's place the vampiric soul is created. As a result of this transformation the chakra systems are damaged and the need to replenish the prana is required.

Go ahead bring on all the jokes and sarcasm

No jokes, BUT there is not one shred of true evidence to support the existance of a soul. I wish there was.The idea of a supposed soul getting destroyed and replaced by a vampiric one sounds like one of the many cheesy horror books I read.