QUOTE (MrBryson @ Jun 4 2008, 06:50 AM)

Okay, I'll bite. Let's say that these Grays exist as they've been described over and over again, and let's say they live underwater like you're postulating. What use would they have for legs then in their natural environment (the ocean)? And why exactly would they choose to live underwater with this hyper technology in secrecy when they could obviously travel to land and converse with us? If two intelligent species were developing in the same area the best way to conserve the environment would be to work in tandem together, not abduct random seemingly powerless people. Furthermore, if they were worried about our environment because they're living underwater the most obvious solution to make sure we're not killing the planet would be to kill us off. Assuming they have some moral regulation and don't want to do this, why not use their hyper technology to help fix the problem?
There's way too many logical issues to deal with to make it even worth hypothesizing. In short, no, alien grays don't live underwater and they also aren't dolphins. It seems impossible in just about every way I can think of and just doesn't make sense. I'm not trying to rip into you or anything and I'm sorry if I come off that way, but it just seems like a really, really far fetched idea.
I understand what you're saying, and i don't claim to have all the answers or that what ive said is entirely sound, im really just thinking out loud.
About having legs and being aquatic, im sure i read somewhere that one of the theories on how we evolved to walk on two legs, was humans requiring the ability to wade out into water for food/travel, and keep our heads above the surface. Could it be something similar for the Greys? I may be stretching things here, but what if Greys evolved from land-dwelling mammals that were bipedal because of constant proximity to water, and the need t wade out into water for food, what if some of these mammals went deeper into the water, and eventually evolved into purely aquatic mammals.
Another option for the two legs thing, is that they could've been trying to create a subspecies of themselves to survive above the surface, using humans as a template, and that we've never really seen their original form, which would also cover the whole hybrid stuff thats floating around. Perhaps thats an additional reason why they haven't just made themselves publicly known, perhaps they aren't yet able to survive permanently on the surface, so are trying to design a more advanced human-grey hybrid race so that they can announce themselves to us, and have official representatives on the surface to speak for them.
Im guessing the reason they dont just kill us out or announce their existence, is that they are not warlike, and they know we are, so probably fear us killing them off, which would be a very human thing to do.
As far as hyper technology goes, apart from genetics and advanced propulsion/power source for their craft, which we could well be just a few breakthroughs behind on, how much more advanced than us would they really need to be? Their technology would've developed entirely differently from ours because of their different environment. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we developed a lot of technology they didn't (which they've likely borrowed by now). Perhaps they have been trying to use their technology to lessen the impact we're having on the planet, how would we truly know? What if things would be far far worse if they hadn't been using their technology. Its simply something we could never truly know until they come out and tell us.