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ZombieHunter117
I wanted to give my opinion on where aliens came from and feel free to give yours or comment. I believe that alien microrganism could have happened during the big bang and these cells were sent to a different planet. The cells adapted to the enviroment and evolved into what we see today. I also think they have prefected the art of space travel because they have not had any distrations like war so they could pay more attention to inventions or they could have evolved into a more intelligent life form due to the enviroment around them.

My opinion please comment.

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Orcseeker
I dont believe this im just giving another possibility of life. Panspermia, where there are "seeds" of life contained in meteorites containing a complex group of life producing minerals and such. Exploding in a planets atmosphere and raining small minerals down upon the earth, the life starts there.
Moonchild*
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Emma_Acid
QUOTE (ZombieHunter117 @ Jun 3 2008, 06:46 AM) *
I wanted to give my opinion on where aliens came from and feel free to give yours or comment. I believe that alien microrganism could have happened during the big bang and these cells were sent to a different planet. The cells adapted to the enviroment and evolved into what we see today. I also think they have prefected the art of space travel because they have not had any distrations like war so they could pay more attention to inventions or they could have evolved into a more intelligent life form due to the enviroment around them.

My opinion please comment.

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Nope. Their were no "organisms" created in the big bang, and neither were any "planets". The conditions after the big bang were all at the subatomic scale - organic matter didn't even exist then.
theSOURCE
QUOTE (Rebelle* @ Jun 3 2008, 01:30 AM) *
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DrunkDwarf
QUOTE (ZombieHunter117 @ Jun 3 2008, 06:46 AM) *
I wanted to give my opinion on where aliens came from and feel free to give yours or comment. I believe that alien microrganism could have happened during the big bang and these cells were sent to a different planet. The cells adapted to the enviroment and evolved into what we see today. I also think they have prefected the art of space travel because they have not had any distrations like war so they could pay more attention to inventions or they could have evolved into a more intelligent life form due to the enviroment around them.

My opinion please comment.

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Why do these "Aliens" have to be coming from far away planets? A lot of people will probably agree that alien life must exist somewhere out in space, even if its in bacteria form, but the really far fetched part (for me) has always been how (and why) they managed to travel huge distances through space to visit us.

Therefore, we have these creatures with flying vehicles, zipping around the planet... and if they didn't travel vast distances through space, where did they come from?

With far away galaxies disqualified... then what remains is that they probably originate from somewhere close by.

When we then come to their reasons for doing what they do... what theories can we come up with? They've been reported to give the people they abduct warnings about the environment, about the path humanity is going down, there is the countless accounts of them abducting people and running tests, there is even accounts of hybrids being created. The common trait i see, is that these creatures have a huge interest in this particular planet, and its inhabitants.

Could these aliens be from earth? Could they be appearing, and doing these things because what humanity does will effect their future too?

Something that i think about every time i see a drawing of a Grey, is that they are very aquatic looking, the black shiny eyes, hairless, no external ears, pale grey skin... its very dolphin like. Theres also many accounts of USOs... craft coming out of large bodies of water and flying off into the sky. Could these Greys be living in the ocean? After all, the bottom of the ocean is pretty much the most unknown part of the planet.
MrBryson
QUOTE (DrunkDwarf @ Jun 3 2008, 02:06 PM) *
Why do these "Aliens" have to be coming from far away planets? A lot of people will probably agree that alien life must exist somewhere out in space, even if its in bacteria form, but the really far fetched part (for me) has always been how (and why) they managed to travel huge distances through space to visit us.

Therefore, we have these creatures with flying vehicles, zipping around the planet... and if they didn't travel vast distances through space, where did they come from?

With far away galaxies disqualified... then what remains is that they probably originate from somewhere close by.

When we then come to their reasons for doing what they do... what theories can we come up with? They've been reported to give the people they abduct warnings about the environment, about the path humanity is going down, there is the countless accounts of them abducting people and running tests, there is even accounts of hybrids being created. The common trait i see, is that these creatures have a huge interest in this particular planet, and its inhabitants.

Could these aliens be from earth? Could they be appearing, and doing these things because what humanity does will effect their future too?

Something that i think about every time i see a drawing of a Grey, is that they are very aquatic looking, the black shiny eyes, hairless, no external ears, pale grey skin... its very dolphin like. Theres also many accounts of USOs... craft coming out of large bodies of water and flying off into the sky. Could these Greys be living in the ocean? After all, the bottom of the ocean is pretty much the most unknown part of the planet.


Okay, I'll bite. Let's say that these Grays exist as they've been described over and over again, and let's say they live underwater like you're postulating. What use would they have for legs then in their natural environment (the ocean)? And why exactly would they choose to live underwater with this hyper technology in secrecy when they could obviously travel to land and converse with us? If two intelligent species were developing in the same area the best way to conserve the environment would be to work in tandem together, not abduct random seemingly powerless people. Furthermore, if they were worried about our environment because they're living underwater the most obvious solution to make sure we're not killing the planet would be to kill us off. Assuming they have some moral regulation and don't want to do this, why not use their hyper technology to help fix the problem?

There's way too many logical issues to deal with to make it even worth hypothesizing. In short, no, alien grays don't live underwater and they also aren't dolphins. It seems impossible in just about every way I can think of and just doesn't make sense. I'm not trying to rip into you or anything and I'm sorry if I come off that way, but it just seems like a really, really far fetched idea.
DrunkDwarf
QUOTE (MrBryson @ Jun 4 2008, 06:50 AM) *
Okay, I'll bite. Let's say that these Grays exist as they've been described over and over again, and let's say they live underwater like you're postulating. What use would they have for legs then in their natural environment (the ocean)? And why exactly would they choose to live underwater with this hyper technology in secrecy when they could obviously travel to land and converse with us? If two intelligent species were developing in the same area the best way to conserve the environment would be to work in tandem together, not abduct random seemingly powerless people. Furthermore, if they were worried about our environment because they're living underwater the most obvious solution to make sure we're not killing the planet would be to kill us off. Assuming they have some moral regulation and don't want to do this, why not use their hyper technology to help fix the problem?

There's way too many logical issues to deal with to make it even worth hypothesizing. In short, no, alien grays don't live underwater and they also aren't dolphins. It seems impossible in just about every way I can think of and just doesn't make sense. I'm not trying to rip into you or anything and I'm sorry if I come off that way, but it just seems like a really, really far fetched idea.


I understand what you're saying, and i don't claim to have all the answers or that what ive said is entirely sound, im really just thinking out loud.

About having legs and being aquatic, im sure i read somewhere that one of the theories on how we evolved to walk on two legs, was humans requiring the ability to wade out into water for food/travel, and keep our heads above the surface. Could it be something similar for the Greys? I may be stretching things here, but what if Greys evolved from land-dwelling mammals that were bipedal because of constant proximity to water, and the need t wade out into water for food, what if some of these mammals went deeper into the water, and eventually evolved into purely aquatic mammals.

Another option for the two legs thing, is that they could've been trying to create a subspecies of themselves to survive above the surface, using humans as a template, and that we've never really seen their original form, which would also cover the whole hybrid stuff thats floating around. Perhaps thats an additional reason why they haven't just made themselves publicly known, perhaps they aren't yet able to survive permanently on the surface, so are trying to design a more advanced human-grey hybrid race so that they can announce themselves to us, and have official representatives on the surface to speak for them.

Im guessing the reason they dont just kill us out or announce their existence, is that they are not warlike, and they know we are, so probably fear us killing them off, which would be a very human thing to do.

As far as hyper technology goes, apart from genetics and advanced propulsion/power source for their craft, which we could well be just a few breakthroughs behind on, how much more advanced than us would they really need to be? Their technology would've developed entirely differently from ours because of their different environment. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we developed a lot of technology they didn't (which they've likely borrowed by now). Perhaps they have been trying to use their technology to lessen the impact we're having on the planet, how would we truly know? What if things would be far far worse if they hadn't been using their technology. Its simply something we could never truly know until they come out and tell us.
itsnotoutthere
QUOTE (Emma_Acid_88 @ Jun 3 2008, 01:49 PM) *
Nope. Their were no "organisms" created in the big bang, and neither were any "planets". The conditions after the big bang were all at the subatomic scale - organic matter didn't even exist then.



Gets a tad tedious explaining basic scientific principles to a 7 year old doesn't it Emma. (or at least, a 7 year old intellect)

I find it best to avoid threads where the poster talks about the existance of aliens as though it were a proven fact. This generally avoids getting into irratating & pointless arguments with people of a more, shall we say 'tender' age.
MrBryson
QUOTE (DrunkDwarf @ Jun 4 2008, 09:32 AM) *
I understand what you're saying, and i don't claim to have all the answers or that what ive said is entirely sound, im really just thinking out loud.

About having legs and being aquatic, im sure i read somewhere that one of the theories on how we evolved to walk on two legs, was humans requiring the ability to wade out into water for food/travel, and keep our heads above the surface. Could it be something similar for the Greys? I may be stretching things here, but what if Greys evolved from land-dwelling mammals that were bipedal because of constant proximity to water, and the need t wade out into water for food, what if some of these mammals went deeper into the water, and eventually evolved into purely aquatic mammals.

Another option for the two legs thing, is that they could've been trying to create a subspecies of themselves to survive above the surface, using humans as a template, and that we've never really seen their original form, which would also cover the whole hybrid stuff thats floating around. Perhaps thats an additional reason why they haven't just made themselves publicly known, perhaps they aren't yet able to survive permanently on the surface, so are trying to design a more advanced human-grey hybrid race so that they can announce themselves to us, and have official representatives on the surface to speak for them.

Im guessing the reason they dont just kill us out or announce their existence, is that they are not warlike, and they know we are, so probably fear us killing them off, which would be a very human thing to do.

As far as hyper technology goes, apart from genetics and advanced propulsion/power source for their craft, which we could well be just a few breakthroughs behind on, how much more advanced than us would they really need to be? Their technology would've developed entirely differently from ours because of their different environment. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we developed a lot of technology they didn't (which they've likely borrowed by now). Perhaps they have been trying to use their technology to lessen the impact we're having on the planet, how would we truly know? What if things would be far far worse if they hadn't been using their technology. Its simply something we could never truly know until they come out and tell us.



While I enjoy your thoughts and ideas throughly, I think we're just grasping at straws. If Grays lived underwater in the oceans we would have surely seen a corpse or two wash ashore at some point in human history, especially if they're very populated. Even the elusive giant squid has washed up more than once. And why not abduct people when they're swimming or boating? That way they wouldn't even have to leave their natural habitat and they wouldn't have to go take us from our cars, beds, and other secluded unverifiable places

As for the technology question, most advanced breakthroughs are syngeries of many other technologies. We're nowhere close to have this kind of reported prowess in the air or underwater. Biotechnology is in it's infancy as well, and through trial and error they'd develop many other outlying technologies in their pursuit of this "hybrid" which I think the very notion of is extremely self serving to humans.
Magnatude
Although I dont believe in a Big Bang (I prefer to think of the Universe as always being here) The possibility of mirco life on earth originating off-planet or on-planet to me seems moot. All we really know is life exists here, it started and flourished.
What NASA "says" is they haven't had definite proof that they've found it out there yet.

Reason why I quote "says", is because who really knows if stuff is being suppressed from public knowledge.
Xeaphon
I think that there are four likely places where aliens could come from:

1. Another dimension
2. Another planet, but they evolved much quicker than we did and got better technology
3. Evolved humans from the future, travelling back in time (greys are humanoid after all...)
4. Creatures that naturally inhabit this planet and look down on us as we would an ant nest
Xeaphon
QUOTE (MrBryson @ Jun 4 2008, 04:26 PM) *
If Grays lived underwater in the oceans we would have surely seen a corpse or two wash ashore at some point in human history, especially if they're very populated. Even the elusive giant squid has washed up more than once. And why not abduct people when they're swimming or boating? That way they wouldn't even have to leave their natural habitat and they wouldn't have to go take us from our cars, beds, and other secluded unverifiable places



Maybe they do. Bermuda Triangle, Mary Celeste etc...
MrBryson
QUOTE (Xeaphon @ Jun 4 2008, 01:52 PM) *
Maybe they do. Bermuda Triangle, Mary Celeste etc...


But the vast majority of cases come from people who are on land. Doesn't it seem contradictory to you that aquatic beings would travel to land for subjects when tens of thousands of people are at sea every day?
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