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Pol_Pot_will_killyou
I heard Voodoo Child is about how Jimi Hendrix sold his soul to the devil for fame and the way the ceremony was performed was by drinking a priests vomit at some lake. Anyone know if this is a true satanic ceremony and if it has a time limit on it, with Hendrix's only lasting until he was 28?

-Pol
EtuMalku
QUOTE (Pol_Pot_will_killyou @ Jun 3 2008, 08:53 PM) *
I heard Voodoo Child is about how Jimi Hendrix sold his soul to the devil for fame and the way the ceremony was performed was by drinking a priests vomit at some lake. Anyone know if this is a true satanic ceremony and if it has a time limit on it, with Hendrix's only lasting until he was 28?

-Pol

He was 27
And you've got to be kidding?
Pol_Pot_will_killyou
SUPPOSEDLY a blues musician named Robert Johnson sold his soul too.
For the sake of the story, I just wondered if there is any description of what process they underwent.

-Pol
EtuMalku
QUOTE (Pol_Pot_will_killyou @ Jun 3 2008, 09:28 PM) *
SUPPOSEDLY a blues musician named Robert Johnson sold his soul too.
For the sake of the story, I just wondered if there is any description of what process they underwent.

-Pol

Okay then, actaully the first bluesman to sell his soul to the devil was Tommy Johnson (no relation to Robert)
Before him there is always Paganini & Orpheus
But anyway . . .

"If you want to learn how to make songs yourself, you take your guitar and you go to where the road crosses that way, where a crossroads is. Get there be sure to get there just a little ' fore 12 that night so you know you'll be there. You have your guitar and be playing a piece there by yourself…A big black man will walk up there and take your guitar and he'll tune it. And then he'll play a piece and hand it back to you. That's the way I learned to play anything I want."

Tommy Johnson

Of course his goes a little deeper than it seems. The Keeper of the Crossroads in the Vodoun (Voodoo) religion is Papa Legba also seen as the Devil / trickster. It is this Lwa (spirit) that must first be summoned before you can go on to any other Lwa, in other words Papa Legba opens the Gates to the Spirit World and to hidden knowledge.

Hope that helps
Blind Atrocity
Honestly, that just sounds silly. I doubt it's true.
Sweetsalem82103
Oh, that's gross. I think I'd rather be a crappy musician. innocent.gif
asc.rudeboy
or just go tis web sight and read the contracts might be just what your looking for.


http://www.necronomi.com/projects/666/
chrisfreak
I don't know... maybe you can use Ebay hmm.gif
ohio traveler
I'm pretty sure Homer Simpson sold his soul for a donut.

But seriously, I suppose if you believe in heaven, hell, satan, and having a soul, it's within the realm of possibility.
Dr. D
QUOTE (Pol_Pot_will_killyou @ Jun 4 2008, 01:53 AM) *
I heard Voodoo Child is about how Jimi Hendrix sold his soul to the devil for fame and the way the ceremony was performed was by drinking a priests vomit at some lake. Anyone know if this is a true satanic ceremony and if it has a time limit on it, with Hendrix's only lasting until he was 28?

-Pol


If God doesn't show up to answer your prayers, why do people believe the devil would show up to negotiate for your soul?
Plainbob13
Good point. But, What if its demons, that do the so-called deals. And why sell your soul when your going to die young? Makes no sense to me.
Dr. D
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Jun 4 2008, 07:52 PM) *
Good point. But, What if its demons, that do the so-called deals. And why sell your soul when your going to die young? Makes no sense to me.


Okay, but angels don't show up to answer your prayers, either. But you're right . . . it makes no sense. It had a certain cultural flair to it when it dealt with Faust, but today it's the fodder of cultism.
Pol_Pot_will_killyou
The Devil is a humanist and God is like, trees and stars and tides and stuff...
And anyways, isnt performing the summoning ritual basically forcing the Devil or demon to be at that place, at that time? Like they have to?
Someone should Mythbust if you have 2 satanic rituals performed at the exact same time, if the devil gets preoccupied with one of the rituals or the other.

-Pol
Dr. D
QUOTE (Pol_Pot_will_killyou @ Jun 4 2008, 08:10 PM) *
The Devil is a humanist and God is like, trees and stars and tides and stuff...
And anyways, isnt performing the summoning ritual basically forcing the Devil or demon to be at that place, at that time? Like they have to?
Someone should Mythbust if you have 2 satanic rituals performed at the exact same time, if the devil gets preoccupied with one of the rituals or the other.

-Pol


Any videos?
Plainbob13
QUOTE (Expatriate @ Jun 4 2008, 02:09 PM) *
Okay, but angels don't show up to answer your prayers, either. But you're right . . . it makes no sense. It had a certain cultural flair to it when it dealt with Faust, but today it's the fodder of cultism.


Thats true too.
Plainbob13
QUOTE (Pol_Pot_will_killyou @ Jun 4 2008, 02:10 PM) *
The Devil is a humanist and God is like, trees and stars and tides and stuff...
And anyways, isnt performing the summoning ritual basically forcing the Devil or demon to be at that place, at that time? Like they have to?
Someone should Mythbust if you have 2 satanic rituals performed at the exact same time, if the devil gets preoccupied with one of the rituals or the other.

-Pol


OK. But if god can be in more then one place at a time , For the sake of argument. Can't the devil do the same? God is all powerful or suposed to be and the devil to an degree is the same.
EtuMalku
It's a story people . . . thumbsup.gif
Of course there are allegories connected to the concept
Elite
to make a 'contract' with the devil so to speak i believe u summon him doing some kind of ritual and to seal the deal the good old fashioned writing ur signiture with ur own blood
Dr. D
QUOTE (Elite @ Jun 5 2008, 08:38 PM) *
to make a 'contract' with the devil so to speak i believe u summon him doing some kind of ritual and to seal the deal the good old fashioned writing ur signiture with ur own blood


There are references on youtube under "Satanic Rituals."
Plainbob13
If you play sesame street in reverse the devil will appear and make you a star in TV. It worked for Springer.
Affliction
I'd say it's just a new version of the Robert Johnson myth for a different generation.
conspiracybeliever
Oh Lord! This is hilarious.
saturnrings
QUOTE (Pol_Pot_will_killyou @ Jun 4 2008, 01:53 AM) *
I heard Voodoo Child is about how Jimi Hendrix sold his soul to the devil for fame and the way the ceremony was performed was by drinking a priests vomit at some lake. Anyone know if this is a true satanic ceremony and if it has a time limit on it, with Hendrix's only lasting until he was 28?

-Pol

in the past i found some info about Hendrix been an UFO /Allien contactee, who received most his famous tunes thru contact with those beings. Same as Elvis Presley. Feel free to question my findinds but it may be the actually truth behind both artists talent and genious.
Sockmonster
QUOTE (ohio traveler @ Jun 4 2008, 07:05 PM) *
I'm pretty sure Homer Simpson sold his soul for a donut.

But seriously, I suppose if you believe in heaven, hell, satan, and having a soul, it's within the realm of possibility.


It was Bart - sold it to Millhouse - luckily Lisa bought it back for him ... just what sisters are for!!!

Have to do the same for my bro regularly

conspiracybeliever
You guys are crazy! I love it!
MindFire
I’m fairly certain that the term “sell your soul to the devil” is not in reference to a legal transaction i.e.: wishes for your soul but, is really meant to mean that you sell your soul to the devil through sins. That is to say that through lying, cheating, stealing, etcetera, you give yourself to evil or the devil.
Dr. D
QUOTE (conspiracybeliever @ Jul 17 2008, 11:23 PM) *
You guys are crazy! I love it!


What is the process to sell your soul?
Get an e-bay account.
Ghost It Notes
Who do you want to sell your soul to? If you want to sell it to the devil, you are already set. Done. But if you want to "sell" it to Jesus, then you just need to ask Him. I highly recommend the latter. Highly. Your soul is precious and unique. It is yours alone. You need to take care of it. Do a lot of research. Where do you want your soul to end up? By the way...your soul is you and all of your memories. That will never change.
conspiracybeliever
Oh my God! You guys are great. But just so you know, at this point in my life, our government is the devil. All the lying, cheating, stealing...seems to be coming from them. Try to look at the big picture. Sell your soul to the devil may just be a legal transaction if you take a close look at our legal system. Just remember our prisons are our biggest industry. And big business is running this country.
MoonChild02
QUOTE (MindFire @ Jul 18 2008, 12:37 AM) *
I’m fairly certain that the term “sell your soul to the devil” is not in reference to a legal transaction i.e.: wishes for your soul but, is really meant to mean that you sell your soul to the devil through sins. That is to say that through lying, cheating, stealing, etcetera, you give yourself to evil or the devil.

Actually, that's not entirely true. Yes, that's a way to sell your soul, but it's only one way. There are some others. If you call upon a demon and negotiate a contract, it will give you only so long, but will give you fame and riches, that is, until you die. You cand also just ask any random demonic entity to give you a comfortable life and maybe riches until you die. No matter how you do it, when you die, you're stuck in Hell for eternity. There are people who have done it. Let's just say that even though I would like to live comfortably, I'll NEVER give up eternal happiness just to get it.

God Bless,
MoonChild02
goalienan
So in other words the devil knocks on your door with the contract, you invite him in for a cold drink, negotiate the deal, then sign the contract in blood..Makes sense to me... rolleyes.gif
iamfatfrog
QUOTE (MindFire @ Jul 17 2008, 04:37 PM) *
I’m fairly certain that the term “sell your soul to the devil” is not in reference to a legal transaction i.e.: wishes for your soul but, is really meant to mean that you sell your soul to the devil through sins. That is to say that through lying, cheating, stealing, etcetera, you give yourself to evil or the devil.

i think your right, how can a person sell there will and intelect,this is what a soul is, & how can a person sell something They have given away for free, Besides the bible states all souls belong to God who gave them,
conspiracybeliever
I think we're all going to heaven someday. I think hell is here on earth and we just keep coming back until we learn all of our lessons. I think some of us are young souls and some of us old.
ShadowsAndDust
Huh.. Never really gave this any thought. I assumed selling your soul to the devil is just a myth, I suppose if you believe in God, then you are inclined to believe in the Devil hence i suppose it is possible to sell your soul. Hmm, any websites on how to go about such a thing, would be an interesting read.
Corp
In a way it's a take off the myth of Achilles. He was given the choice to stay at home and live a long, boring life or to go to Troy and die but be remembered forever. Could be early Christians just adapted it as they converted the Greeks.
xaruto666
just wake up people de devil doesnt exist its a crappy theory to keep the religions alive **** the devil and **** god
yvan
Just per say that its true that Jimi sold his soul.
What about John Lennon? Maybe a fallen angel? Coz he did become rebellious about the idea of god's existence.
I dont know any other terms to make it sound as fair enough as "fallen angel" so I guess its human down to the pits of hell i guess.
Shankpin
QUOTE (EtuMalku @ Jun 3 2008, 08:50 PM) *
Of course his goes a little deeper than it seems. The Keeper of the Crossroads in the Vodoun (Voodoo) religion is Papa Legba also seen as the Devil / trickster. It is this Lwa (spirit) that must first be summoned before you can go on to any other Lwa, in other words Papa Legba opens the Gates to the Spirit World and to hidden knowledge.

Hope that helps


mmm.
chrisfreak
Jimi Hendrix used The Pick of Destiny, which was a special guitar pick made from a piece of Satan's tooth. That made him become a rock star.
Aanica
QUOTE (asc.rudeboy @ Jun 4 2008, 06:03 AM) *
or just go tis web sight and read the contracts might be just what your looking for.


http://www.necronomi.com/projects/666/

Your a very different individual arn't you...
Terry_M
QUOTE (conspiracybeliever @ Jul 18 2008, 08:54 AM) *
I think we're all going to heaven someday. I think hell is here on earth and we just keep coming back until we learn all of our lessons. I think some of us are young souls and some of us old.


That really made me think.
WARRIOR FOR THE LIGHT
Well hell, If it happened to Jimmy and Robert Johnson...the TWO of them... then it must be true.
After all it happened more than once! whistling2.gif


Oh,.... I forgot to say PUKE!
Blessings
EtuMalku
Did Robert Johnson sell his soul at the crossroads?

"If you want to learn how to make songs yourself, you take your guitar and your go to where the road crosses that way, where a crossroads is. Get there be sure to get there just a little ' fore 12 that night so you know you'll be there. You have your guitar and be playing a piece there by yourself…A big black man will walk up there and take your guitar and he'll tune it. And then he'll play a piece and hand it back to you. That's the way I learned to play anything I want." - Tommy Johnson

All that is known is that Robert Johnson disappeared for a time span and when he returned his genius flourished with his guitar. One author chalked it up to intensive practice over a year's time.

A man named Julio Finn wrote a book titled: The Bluesman The Musical Heritage of Black Men and Women in the Americas. Finn adds the factor of voodoo to the equation, "It is doubtful whether Johnson could have written the lyrics of songs with out having been initiated into the cult…the symbolism involved in them is highly complex and of a nature which makes it highly improbable that they were simply things he 'picked up [p215]." With voodoo given credence, Finn provides an intuitive insight of Johnson's psyche and artistic sensibility.

The crossroads is a place loaded with superstitions and stories. Back in the days before the automobile and paved highways, people traveled dirt roads through the wilderness and bayous either on horseback or by foot. The pace of the journey was generally slow and often caused the mind to wander in the trees and shrubs. In a way travelers were much more vulnerable. They did not have the safety of their cars or road side phones to call for help. And as darkness fell, I'm sure that all of the superstitions and stories of evil devoured their consciousness.

Many countries such as the European countries, India, Greece and Japan, as well as people such as the American Indians, subscribed to the superstitions and folk tales of the crossroads. At these intersections, demons, evil spirits, ghosts and fairies were found. It is a burial place for suicides and murderers. The crossroads is a rendezvous for witches who use this place for Sabbat rituals. Sacrifices were offered to the gods to protect humans from the evil which lurked here.

Legba is a Voodoo deity and god of entrances and crossroads. He is part of the belief systems of blacks of Dutch Guina, Brazil, Trinidad, Cuba and the voodoo cult of Haiti and New Orleans. In the new world, Legba goes about in tatters and he functions in cult rituals "to open the way" for the gods to possess their devotees. For this reason his songs are sung first at all rites. In the new world syncretism he is often equated with the devil. With this information, we can assume that when Robert Johnson made his claim of meeting the devil, he was referring to Legba.

Robert Johnson's first instrument was the harmonica. In his teens he began to play the guitar. Robert Johnson saw the blues as a vehicle to help him escape his position in America. As a black youth of the South, he had little hope for even a chance at a simple middle class existence. Basically, a field hand was the only position open to him. The young RJ was not disposed to this form of labor. His step father was often annoyed at him for his lack of work in the fields. He spent very little time there.

Music empowered him to rise above, or possibly, to avoid the burdens of the plantations. Music offered opportunity, excitement and travel:

"{The Blues} spoke of notorious good-time women and big-shot gamblers; they told about wangas and charms which gave a person supernatural powers…To be a bluesman would give him the right to partake of that wandering, devil-may-care existence [p212-Finn].

His early influences were Son House and his accompanist Willie Brown. RJ would sneak off to one of the local juke joints at night and sit at the feet of these two gifted men. His eyes back and forth from one guitar to the other lost in the concentration of learning. Son House recalls in the Living Blues how when they went outside for a break, RJ would pick up one of the guitars and begin to play:

"And such a racket you never heard! It'd make the people mad, you know. They'd come out and say, 'Why don't y'all go in and get that guitar away from that boy! He's running people crazy with it!' I'd come back in, and I'd scold him about it, ' Don't do that Robert. You drive the people nuts. You can't play nothing. Why don't you play that harmonica for'em.' But he didn't want to blow that. Still, he didn't care how I'd get after him about it. He'd do it anyway."

Finn's argument for voodoo becomes stronger at this point in Johnson's life. Johnson's young wife died during childbirth. Finn sees this as a catalyst which draws Johnson to a search within himself, an attempt to gain control of his life:

"Confronted with yet another crisis, this young man sought a means of transforming his life, by transforming life itself into a work of art. Disillusioned with the reality the white world imposed upon him, he turned to the world of magic to the supernatural powers promised by Hoodoo…Having realized that music was a kind of magic, he sought out magic to gain control over it [p213].

To harness this power he sought the guidance of a Root Doctor{a voodoo medicine man}. Deep in the bayou, he sought to understand that energy which all human beings possess. He learned to channel it through his guitar, much the same way a practitioner of voodoo channels a spirit using his body. In this way the blues is an offshoot of voodoo, an Americanized version of the African religion.

Finn argues that RJ was possessed by the idea of death:

"His songs are laments of a soul too sensitive to face up to the brutal realities of its existence. For Johnson was a creative genius in every sense of the word, by which I mean that he came to embody the art he practiced. He 'created' his-for lack of a better term- 'neurosis' the same as he created his songs; his genius gave birth to those very hellhounds he thought were following him when, in fact, the were inside him. That he made a pact at the crossroads, I do not doubt for a moment; but it was he who supplied the demon of the lore, the 'big black man'….His was the Nat Turner style of creativity, which either begets great artists or social revolutionaries. Turner saw blood in the sky, Johnson 'blues falling like hail'. He needed the curse of the crossroads in order to justify the existence of such visions…the devil became his excuse for being a genius [p218].


Just some food for thought on this subject
louie
Jimi hendrix dident sell his soul, he dident have to he was a highly talented guitarist who worked hard at his craft, an do sme research on who he played with when he was a session musician before he went out on his own, you will be suprised.
EtuMalku
QUOTE (louie @ Sep 14 2008, 06:42 PM) *
Jimi hendrix dident sell his soul, he dident have to he was a highly talented guitarist who worked hard at his craft, an do sme research on who he played with when he was a session musician before he went out on his own, you will be suprised.

Hendrix was talented indeed, but he did not work at his craft, much of it came naturally. He was undisciplined, without much theoretical knowledge, had a good ear and great rhythm. He never practiced and never progressed any further before his death, not to say hw wouldn't have of course. Here is a guitarist that was connected to the Muses but lacked the discipline to perfect his craft, Robert Fripp on the other hand is disciplined guitarist that perfected his craft and has made the connection to the Muses. Had Hendrix lived perhaps they would be the same people? LOL
chaoszerg
QUOTE
Whats the process to sell your soul?




Getting married is a good way.
conspiracybeliever
QUOTE (chaoszerg @ Sep 15 2008, 12:20 AM) *
Getting married is a good way.



That's terrible! But funny and overall the truth. Thank you for your honesty.
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