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Mademoiselle
http://www.idahoexaminer.com/columns/9343/...animal-approves



"Homosexual Activist: Sex with Animals O.K. As Long As Animal Approves
Posted on: June 04, 2008

We’ve often made the point that once the one-man, one-woman threshold of the definition of marriage is transgressed, there is no logical place to stop. Once the link between marriage and procreation is severed, and once we dismiss the understanding that marriage is ultimately about creating optimal nurturing environments for children, there is no rational reason not to allow anybody to have sex with or “marry” anybody – or anything – they want to.

When we make these arguments, homosexual activists always accuse of scare tactics and exaggeration.

Unfortunately for the gay lobby, one of their own heroes has now made our case for us by saying that bestiality is just fine, “as long as the animal doesn’t mind.” (Which raises the question: how exactly would an animal give consent in such a situation?)

These words come from Frank Kameny, who was integral in pressuring the American Psychiatric Association to reclassify same-sex activities as normal in 1973. He was honored just last year by the Smithsonian for those efforts, and his “Gay is Good” slogan and his protest signs are set for display in the National Museum of American History. Not exactly a man on the kook fringe of the homosexual movement.

Now he is arguing that there is no such thing as “sexual perversion,” and he is trying to find cover for sex with animals under the Declaration of Independence’s affirmation that the “Pursuit of Happiness” in an inalienable right. Of course, I might want to kill someone in my pursuit of happiness, or rob them blind, but somehow I don’t think that’s what the Founders had in mind.

Says Kameny, “If something which someone arbitrarily defines as a ‘sexual perversion’ provides happiness for consenting adult participants, then its enjoyment is enshrined in basic Americanism.” So, he says, “If bestiality with consenting animals provides happiness to some people, let them pursue their happiness.”

He adds, “Let us have more and better enjoyment of more and better sexual perversions, by whatever definition.”

Kameny was writing in defense of the sale of bestiality videos at the recent “International Mr. Leather” convention in Chicago."

Pax Unum
QUOTE (Mademoiselle @ Jun 4 2008, 09:38 AM) *
bestiality is just fine, “as long as the animal doesn’t mind.” (Which raises the question: how exactly would an animal give consent in such a situation?)

how does an animal give it's consent?... sounds like this guy has a sick mind... IMO
Slave2Fate
I think I'm gonna be ill, I don't even know how to respond to this.
Tiggs
I wouldn't worry too much. I have a feeling a Judge would require a sworn affidavit from the animal in question as proof, somehow.
Mademoiselle
QUOTE (Tiggs @ Jun 4 2008, 06:34 PM) *
I wouldn't worry too much. I have a feeling a Judge would require a sworn affidavit from the animal in question as proof, somehow.

Yes. I have that feeling , too. thumbsup.gif
Tsume
So if it growls or something, the animal is saying "Yes, go ahead"?
Mademoiselle
QUOTE (Tsume @ Jun 4 2008, 10:50 PM) *
So if it growls or something, the animal is saying "Yes, go ahead"?

OMG
Bella-Angelique
If this guy thinks animals are talking to him he has deeper problems going on than his sexual deviation.

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On all sexual deviation

I think anything that deviates from the optimum, strict monogamy between the opposite sex, could be called a deviation. To me this would include adultery, sexual promiscuity, and polygamy as well as homosexuality.
Until the other three are also viewed as psychiatric disorders since they are also deviations from the optimum, I see no reason for homosexuality to ever be added back in as one. It would just be a case of your sin is worse than my sin if they tried to. There would be no logic in it.
wolfknight
This guy is one sick SOB. Sick with animals ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
chemical-licker
saw this program on english tv about americans who have sex with their animals, even they were saying how the animal liked it.


have to go now feeling quite sick bounce.gif
Bill Hill

If we could talk to the animals, just imagine it?
No... really Imagine it...
I bet Dr Dolittle could get consent..

If we cooooouuuuuullllld (altogether now) ....
walk with the animals, talk with the animals! (don't be afraid to dance)
Grunt and squeak and squawk with the animals,(get on up from your computer chair)
And they could squeak and squawk and speak and talk to Uuuuuuussssssss!

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Quill
QUOTE (Bill Hill @ Jun 9 2008, 07:33 AM) *
If we cooooouuuuuullllld (altogether now) ....
walk with the animals, talk with the animals! (don't be afraid to dance)
Grunt and squeak and squawk with the animals,(get on up from your computer chair)
And they could squeak and squawk and speak and talk to Uuuuuuussssssss!

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laugh.gif ^


That's just downright nasty.

Lilith Incarnate
that is just plain sick, whats wrong with these people that they need to have sex with animals?
deepislandboy
Isn't there a vid where a guy gets a horse to make whoopee with him then he dies?
Slave2Fate
QUOTE (deepislandboy @ Jun 17 2008, 05:48 PM) *
Isn't there a vid where a guy gets a horse to make whoopee with him then he dies?


Dear God I hope not! wacko.gif
Plainbob13
?? Humm. Yea. I huh. Geeez. I feel for the sheep this guy is around.
Lt_Ripley
just goes to show you gays can be as sick as straights . straight people have been having sex with animals for years. all those men cheering about women and donkeys? in mexico ? those aren't gay men renting those films. or standing around watching.

I would doubt there isn't a man here who hasn't at least given it thought --- so plenty of sick people to go around.

lots of stone thor
Affliction
QUOTE (deepislandboy @ Jun 18 2008, 10:48 AM) *
Isn't there a vid where a guy gets a horse to make whoopee with him then he dies?

laugh.gif Inter-species, snuff, rape! That must be quite a niche market....
atom286
QUOTE (Pax Unum @ Jun 4 2008, 04:23 PM) *
how does an animal give it's consent?... sounds like this guy has a sick mind... IMO


Applaud.

That guy needs to see a psychologist, he's a deviant.
someoldguy
QUOTE
"Homosexual Activist: Sex with Animals O.K. As Long As Animal Approves


That somehow reminds me of that infamous scene in the movie Deliverance.

"I bet you can squeal just like a pig!"

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REBEL
Then people wonder how STDs come about & spread...
someoldguy
QUOTE (REBEL @ Jun 18 2008, 04:00 AM) *
Then people wonder how STDs come about & spread...



Bingo!

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REBEL
QUOTE (someoldguy @ Jun 18 2008, 06:28 PM) *
That somehow reminds me of that infamous scene in the movie Deliverance.

"I bet you can squeal just like a pig!"

ohmy.gif

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LOL!!!...
The movie's a Cult Classic.



''Comon Bouy Sqeeeeeal...Comon sqeeeeeal!''

ROFL!!!
BlueZone
QUOTE (deepislandboy @ Jun 17 2008, 08:48 PM) *
Isn't there a vid where a guy gets a horse to make whoopee with him then he dies?

One of the world's great urban legends is that Czarina Catherine the Great died that way.
Lilith Incarnate
ive heard that centaurs are derived the same way.......
morrigan
QUOTE (deepislandboy @ Jun 17 2008, 05:48 PM) *
Isn't there a vid where a guy gets a horse to make whoopee with him then he dies?


Yes there is. He's "Mr. Hands". For the sake of your own sanity and desire not to instantly vomit...do not watch this video!!!

This whole sex-with-animals thing is making me ill.
Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (morrigan @ Jun 26 2008, 10:18 PM) *
Yes there is. He's "Mr. Hands". For the sake of your own sanity and desire not to instantly vomit...do not watch this video!!!

This whole sex-with-animals thing is making me ill.


lol what's odd is that someone even has heard of such a film and you know the title and have seemingly watched it. ( since it made you instantly vomit)

but I guess it's like a train wreck , one can't help but look.

disgusting ? sure no doubt. but more straight people on farms doing animals than gay men. and again straight men into watching women and donkeys .......... usually some drugged out woman addict. gross .

I just don't approve that since a gay guy says this should be made legal and everyone is appalled and shocked and it makes headlines in a 'family value' paper yet straight people claim the same everyday ... although it's only the back pages if in the news at all. Just more ammo for the homophobic. while ignoring their own crap.

It's also Idaho ......... lots of farms. mostly straight . bet there are alot of poor animals wanting to get away from sick farmers.
Michelle
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ Jun 27 2008, 03:33 AM) *
disgusting ? sure no doubt. but more straight people on farms doing animals than gay men.


Because there aren't as many gay men..................period.
MUM24/7
Well as long as the animals are adults e.g. cows, sheep, horses, dogs and not children e.g. calfs, lamb, foals, puppies, then it's alright I guess...... wacko.gif rolleyes.gif

Lt_Ripley
QUOTE (Michelle @ Jun 26 2008, 11:52 PM) *
Because there aren't as many gay men..................period.


especially on farms !

now is this more of a male thing ? or are women equally disturbed ?
atom286
QUOTE (MUM24/7 @ Jun 27 2008, 12:18 PM) *
Well as long as the animals are adults e.g. cows, sheep, horses, dogs and not children e.g. calfs, lamb, foals, puppies, then it's alright I guess...... wacko.gif rolleyes.gif


I feel people who has this mind set are perverse. You need reporting to the RSPCA as its clear no animal left in your company is safe.
morrigan
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ Jun 26 2008, 08:33 PM) *
lol what's odd is that someone even has heard of such a film and you know the title and have seemingly watched it. ( since it made you instantly vomit)

but I guess it's like a train wreck , one can't help but look.

disgusting ? sure no doubt. but more straight people on farms doing animals than gay men. and again straight men into watching women and donkeys .......... usually some drugged out woman addict. gross .

I just don't approve that since a gay guy says this should be made legal and everyone is appalled and shocked and it makes headlines in a 'family value' paper yet straight people claim the same everyday ... although it's only the back pages if in the news at all. Just more ammo for the homophobic. while ignoring their own crap.

It's also Idaho ......... lots of farms. mostly straight . bet there are alot of poor animals wanting to get away from sick farmers.


FYI: A friend of mine sent me a link directly to that video in an IM conversation as a joke. I most certainly did not know of its existance prior to viewing it, would never have sought out such a disgusting thing, and stopped it as soon as it started and I saw what was on the screen. Thanks for jumping to conclusions.

I don't give a damn about gay or straight when it comes to having sex with animals. I don't care what consenting adults do with/to each other as it is none of my business. I find sex with animals disgusting no matter how you slice it. I don't think that the majoriy of outrage is coming from people because a gay man advocates this. Most normal people would be repulsed no matter who was doing the advocating.
deathxdealer
QUOTE (morrigan @ Jun 27 2008, 08:22 PM) *
I don't give a damn about gay or straight when it comes to having sex with animals. I don't care what consenting adults do with/to each other as it is none of my business. I find sex with animals disgusting no matter how you slice it. I don't think that the majoriy of outrage is coming from people because a gay man advocates this. Most normal people would be repulsed no matter who was doing the advocating.



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Doesn't matter what their orientation is, it is still sick, i feel very disgusted by this
momentarylapseofreason
I find this really disgusting and disturbing.

Humans should know better and in a sense it's animal abuse.

I also feel it's dangerous and most likely where STD's came from originally. Baarf !!
Aanica
QUOTE (Mademoiselle @ Jun 4 2008, 09:38 AM) *
http://www.idahoexaminer.com/columns/9343/...animal-approves



"Homosexual Activist: Sex with Animals O.K. As Long As Animal Approves
Posted on: June 04, 2008

We’ve often made the point that once the one-man, one-woman threshold of the definition of marriage is transgressed, there is no logical place to stop. Once the link between marriage and procreation is severed, and once we dismiss the understanding that marriage is ultimately about creating optimal nurturing environments for children, there is no rational reason not to allow anybody to have sex with or “marry” anybody – or anything – they want to.

When we make these arguments, homosexual activists always accuse of scare tactics and exaggeration.

Unfortunately for the gay lobby, one of their own heroes has now made our case for us by saying that bestiality is just fine, “as long as the animal doesn’t mind.” (Which raises the question: how exactly would an animal give consent in such a situation?)

These words come from Frank Kameny, who was integral in pressuring the American Psychiatric Association to reclassify same-sex activities as normal in 1973. He was honored just last year by the Smithsonian for those efforts, and his “Gay is Good” slogan and his protest signs are set for display in the National Museum of American History. Not exactly a man on the kook fringe of the homosexual movement.

Now he is arguing that there is no such thing as “sexual perversion,” and he is trying to find cover for sex with animals under the Declaration of Independence’s affirmation that the “Pursuit of Happiness” in an inalienable right. Of course, I might want to kill someone in my pursuit of happiness, or rob them blind, but somehow I don’t think that’s what the Founders had in mind.

Says Kameny, “If something which someone arbitrarily defines as a ‘sexual perversion’ provides happiness for consenting adult participants, then its enjoyment is enshrined in basic Americanism.” So, he says, “If bestiality with consenting animals provides happiness to some people, let them pursue their happiness.”

He adds, “Let us have more and better enjoyment of more and better sexual perversions, by whatever definition.”

Kameny was writing in defense of the sale of bestiality videos at the recent “International Mr. Leather” convention in Chicago."
Two words Sodom and Gamora...
Drego
Wow... I don't know which is more disturbing, the obvious insanity of this man or the anti-gay agenda of the source.
Pax Unum
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ Jun 17 2008, 11:34 PM) *
just goes to show you gays can be as sick as straights . straight people have been having sex with animals for years. all those men cheering about women and donkeys? in mexico ? those aren't gay men renting those films. or standing around watching.

I would doubt there isn't a man here who hasn't at least given it thought --- so plenty of sick people to go around.

lots of stone thor

So you’re rationalizing bestiality should be acceptable because some people do it? Then you must also think rape, incest and pedophilia are OK, after all ‘some people do it’...
ODIN-X
Huh? What the?

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