I tried to search this up first but couldnt find an exact posting bout this but, if you think about electricity it has a magnetic field, this was discovered years ago when a highschool teacher had compass on an over head and a wire attached to a battery and as he accidently passed the wire over the compass the needle began to move around causing it to spin some what or follow the wire. Now when you think about the fact of EMF's they find these things we often think of our products we purchase that cause and put of EMF's themselves. Now ground power lines run underground and under a house and into the house themselves, now i think that they put off greater magnetic fields, but the main question is if you think lot people report events happening if they had a basement as the ground lines run into the basement as thats where the main breaker is located or if they had one floor they say lot of events happen in the one floor also where the main breaker is located. Could it be that something feeds off these ground power lines or these ground power lines react to us? It's just something that occured to me when i was talking to a friend about transformers and power lines after we had a power outage in my town. Just something to ponder if you think about it the fact of it produces EMF's since they are such powerful lines even though they are voltage reduced before entering the home.
Also think if you have things happenign look around your house for transformers, power boxes, power lines near your home, i know their are some near mine, but i'm sure and know a ground power line goes into my home so im' doing a lot of thinking now.

Some scientists are now claiming that it's the emf sources themselves that are responsible for many perceived instances of paranormal activity.

This is an extract from http://www.paullee.com/ghosts/sns.html



Imo, it doesn't explain all cases of the paranormal, but could be a factor in some. It may be useful in investigations to record emf levels to rule them out as the possible source of the activity.

im not a expert, but when i watch them use the equipment to tract the fields on the ghost hunters an stuff, they seem to rule out those things, for instance ive seen them located a fuse box with it on the show, the way the fields are small pockets in the middle of rooms , an how sometimes they can "follow" a pocket around sometimes is something to consider

yes but it was something that just sparked my mind when you think people think they see or hear things it's caused by the EMF's reacting on their minds.

BINGO!!!!!


People would be astonished on how many transformers that they have in their houses, almost everything you have has a transformer in it. Most homes in the U.S. are supplied with a 240 volt supply. Its actually (2) 120 volt lines off phase, which then feeds the entire home in 120 volt circuits. Most items in a home that you plug into an outlet actually have to decrease their voltage with a transformer from 120 volts to anywhere from 50 volts to 4 volts. Speakers, televisions (most have step up and step down transformers) A house is absolutely LOADED with electro-magnetic fields. Also someone might say oh we turned off the main and still got readings, well in most cases you will because of feedback voltage off the ground. Which would be enough to give out a reading especially since these quacks use tools to sense miniscule field readings. Plus a electro-magnetic field is not perfect within its enviroment or from technical defaults(substandard sections of wiring in the windings) that can cause irregularities in said fields. Thus giving the impression that when they don't get a field reading in one location of the electrical grid, that there would not be any readings anywhere in the home. That is just hogwash.

well said, yea i was going to say it is from unsheilded power lines, romex, ect. I know people wonder why readings change also, power doesn't stay perfectly consistent, it fluctuates up and down that would definitely make readings go up a little down a little. I've never heard of emf making you see things guardian. It can make you feel watched, nausious, paranoid and i guess if you were extremely paranoid your mind might play tricks on you but i donno if its that bad. Most people don't even notice. I don't, i worl around lots of romex and old wiring. I never really notice a diference.

no you know how people will turn and look somewhere and they think they saw something? it's because we as humans ourselves have nerves which run electricity at a certain level through our bodies, and a lot of it goes on up in the brain which if the field (yes we people put off an EMF, not large) the other EMF's could easily change our fields which causes our brains to tell our eyes we possibly see something. but it's just something i've thought about.

I have asked myself this question repeatedly. In addition to the regular "power line" emf's; I also live across the street from a radio transmitter site!! I have always wondered how all this related back to neurological issues.

Lol, I am not paranoid though, quite the opposite. I also don't think I'm crazy but I probably am... hehehe.

Very interesting!! I would love to hear/read more.

Thanks

yeah i have a transformer/distributor in my back yard, and outside power lines infront my house across the street and ground power lines running into my house

Of course magnetic fields exist, since we are electric beings floating around like static energy. Don't you hate though when you are walking past someone and they have like this huge abnoxious field, but they are nice...but it's annoying because it's so strong it just tires you out geshh, forget paranormal activity ha-ha. Yes, I am suprised that more people don't feel vibrations in the air constantly, especially between people and the certain beats, patterns, condensed, lightness of each 'unique' vibration/frequency. But ya it can get highly annoying, especially when you are always listening to some fan rattling, the heater/conditioner, o or my favorite the big lights outside that actually yes make noise.

what annoys me when someone chatters on for minutes on end and you cant even get a word in LOL (not you just some people i know in my area)

Here is an interesting site about magnetic induced hallucinations yuo all may be interested in reading. Certainly very interesting theories being tested:

http://www.assap.org/newsite/htmlfiles/MADS.html

Great OP Guardian. There has been quite a bit of research done on this very topic. A couple of links below from another thread may be of interest to you.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2221530

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t&p=2224924 (posted below)



Good find Jason. I read this MADS study a while back, and I found it most interesting, especially considering the fact that they found readings in the 7+hz range (Theta frequencies) sustained over the course of several hours during the night, right around the pillow area of the bed. The energy field was distorted due to the mental bed frame, therefore creating theta frequencies that are believed to be the source of these hallucinations/hauntings at this castle experienced by overnight guests. Hallucinations of this sort have also been induced and studied in lab/clinical settings, and successfully implemented using various neurotechnology. We are only beginning to scratch the surface on understanding how our environment effects our biology. The research is impressive and fascinating, to say the lease.



EMF/RF Whole body effects:
There is an episode of Star Trek in which the crew of the Enterprise was deprived of REM (rapid eye movement) sleep because of some freaky space glitch. As a consequence of being dream deprived, they began to hallucinate when they were awake. Scientists like John Lilly and Jean Houston, just to name a few, have proven this does indeed occur. Lack of melatonin causes sleep deprivation. Sleep deprivation causes lack of REM.

Since melatonin and serotonin are the primary circadian endocrine hormones, all vital organs, including the brain, hypothalamus, central nervous system, lymph system, immune system, heart, lungs, liver, kidneys, uterus, testes and fetus, have melatonin and serotonin receptors. Hence, substances that alter the melatonin/serotonin balance can affect organs throughout the brain and body. Melatonin production is very low at birth, peaks in early childhood and declines from puberty onwards. Electrification of homes produce more light-at-night and higher ELF oscillating electromagnetic fields, both of which are proven to reduce melatonin. Normal household light-at-night delays the onset of sleep. People still sleep in the dark but in electromagnetic fields that also reduce melatonin during sleep.

Because the melatonin/serotonin balance is the primary circadian regulator, the daily awake/sleep, metabolic, respiratory, cardiac and activity cycle is modulated though melatonin and serotonin receptors in all our vital organs, especially the brain, hypothalamus, central nervous system, lungs, heart, reproductive organs and fetus. The mother's melatonin passes through the placenta to the fetus in her womb regulating the daily cycle of the fetus and protecting the fetus from oxidative free radical damage. Reducing mother's nocturnal melatonin will increase the risk of fetal genetic and immune system damage. The biophysical mechanism for detecting and responding to external ELF signals, resulting in reduced melatonin, occurs through resonant absorption of the ELF signals in the brain. As I've already mentioned in my last post, calcium ions and neurotransmitters oscillate at the EEG frequencies.

ELF signals induce alterations in the calcium ion signals that in turn send signals to the pineal that alters the melatonin/serotonin balance. This is transferred to the body organs through the CNS (central nervous system) and hormone/enzyme/ion cellular signalling system. In addition, the ELF signal systems in cells, also involve calcium ions, can be directly interfered with by external ELF signals of extremely low intensity through non-equilibrium resonant absorption processes at the cell membrane. This is a resonant phenomenon that only operates in the normal mammal temperature range. It is dependent on the earth's geomagnetic field strength and orientation and therefore varies from place to place and time to time.

Biophysical Summary:
There are well established and observationally confirmed mechanisms for external ELF signals to be resonantly absorbed in human tissue, especially the brain and heart, and cause reduced melatonin. Melatonin is the most potent naturally produced antioxidant that helps to protect cells from genetic damage that leads to cancer, neurological, cardiac and reproductive damage, illness and death. Melatonin levels also affect the health of the immune system that also has a vital role in trying to maintain health. Since a damaged cell should be eliminated by programmed cell death, apoptosis, or by natural killer cells in the immune system, altered calcium ions negatively affect both of these processes. There is considerable evidence relating EMF exposure to reduces immune system competence. Exposure to power frequency fields produced changes in the immune system that were both real and inconsistent. This is because they are complex and non-linear producing a deterministic chaos effect.

Data from the 19th century on hallucinations and magnetic disturbances were found to exhibit a direct and statistically significant correlation. The aa magnetic index over the period 1868-89 and concurrent visual hallucinatory activity were found to co-vary. Magnetic influences on the pineal hormone, melatonin, are suggested as a source of variation. Delta sleep-deprivation: Prolonged sleep deprivation (+48 hours) results in severe mental disturbance, attention deficit, withdrawing, visual complaints, hallucinations and time distortion. After 5 days you may even end up in a mental institution. Robert Whitaker, author of Mad in America interviewed recovered schizophrenics and he said that absolutely every single case admits to a period of sleeplessness prior to a psychic break. This is a clear indication of melatonin deficiency.


Dr. Magda Havas, a professor and research scientist at Trent University in Peterborough Ontario, believes as much as 35-50% the Canadian population may suffer from some sensitivity to electric and magnetic fields. Trends show as much as 50% of the total population will succumb to electrosensitively by the year 2017. The data submitted here were collected in Austria, Germany, Great Britain, Ireland, Sweden, in Switzerland and in the USA.



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I am actually working on a "sound" theory involving an equation that I personally have thought up dealing with this sort of thing...well, in a way. I am going to hash out the details with my Tech Math/Physics teacher but it actually popped in my head as I was driving home today and I have been working on it ever since.

It actually does make sense and is totally feasible. BSP and myself are going to be working on it and we will unleash more details at a later date.

Of coarse if your sleep deprived your going to halucinate. salvidore dali painted like this. I have been up for 7 days before. Yes it gets very crazy. Someone who is sleep deprived w/ a lowered melatonin count would definitely see shadows. Shadow people are a common site while sleep deprived. But you have to be sensitive to experience these right? I work around power lines, romex, appliances, a/c's, pump 2phase, three pahse,220, 110, teco boxes, meters, surge protectors. I never notice a diference even with unsheilded wires. I think if you were seeing shadows and you were sleep deprived its not like you wouldn't know. When your up that long you can't even have an inteligent conversation. You slur your speach, a lot of things i wouldn't mistake sleep deprivation for a paranormal experience. To me halucinations would be easy to distinguish.

lol well this kinda relates to as said seeing shadows....
dont know if some ya'll read my one post bout a shadow encounter? yeah no power lines around, i wasnt sleep deprived.

it was in reference to the article, the long post. It was about emf causing a decrease in melotonin/seratonin, which inherintley inhibits the ability to attain rem sleep. Over a prolong period of no rem sleep you then can experince halucinations due mainly to sleep deprivation... i was commenting on that guardian...

miss read my bad i was tired LOL

I have been in contact with Dr. Michael Persinger for the last year and have argued some of these points with him. For example he believes that the sacred sites of mankinds past were sacred due to their high levels of electromagnetism. It does not account for the perceptions of many people seeing the same thing at the same time. I beleive that these high electromagnetic frequencies may allow you to be on the correct wavelength to be able to see the "paranormal" Dr. Persinger along with Paul Deveraux coined the tectonic strain theory. I am with Persinger on a whole list of things but I am a going with Deveraux on the earthlight/orb phenomena. He also believes them to be intelligent. Just dont know how intelligent they are.

Just wanted to add that the area where I have been blessed to explore and has shown me many things has power lines from east kentucky electric running alonside the road for miles to reach another county. It is funny that it follows the fault line as is. Due to the fact that this area was held sacred by Native Americans(many burial grounds in this small area also) and with these lines running down the middle it may make sense to why I have seen and heard all of the neat things that I have.

One last note. The areas that I have noted with the high electromagnetic signatures are not very close to these power lines. I have had trouble marking some of these areas on my GPS due to the fact that my GPS seems to fail sometimes right when a electromagentic spike occurs. I have had to travel one time for five minutes or so, to mark the area.

It would only make sense that magnetic fields would/or could play a part in some people's "paranormal" experiences.

Yeah i've noticed that when you get close to power lines they often interupt the signal because we took a driving vacation and had one in our vehicle we rented and it kept having to search for signal and this happened a lot, cloudy days but most days it was sunny and clear.

I never noticed a diference around power in houses and power lines it comes with my job. Sometimes i think it can be psycological depending on person. Or maybee you have to be sensitive to emf to be affected. i donno. I womder, the thoerie is that these things draw energy right? why can't they absorb it from power lines or household meters, or outlets ect.?

well i'm sure they can in some way and manner thats why i posted bout this but the power outlets...i doubt that because it only runs power when you have something plugged into it other wise no energy runs through it because it dosnt have a completed connection, like a battery it dosnt do anything unless a connection has been completed

Because those 'sacred' sites carried belief...and belief is one of the most powerful tools that mankind will ever be able to 'accomplish'. With this you can direct energy above without having to exhaust yourself a limitless supply, some have figured this out haha thus you will find in some areas or in some people a 'higher electro'. Though that isn't for all cases. People as many humans have already discussed are 'power outlets' but be careful who you plug into and for how long because it can bascially kill you or it can make you great...but point is to create your own and then give=give.

You will notice that some complain of their watches, computers and other electro technology malfunctioning around them, each human as a different 'wattage' thus if it is not compatiable with them it will of course malfunction not producing enough or going hay wire. Hence why you see some people naturally, who don't get along with others due to chemistry, than some planned hatred.

Maybe it is the unplanned hatred that sparks the fuses and the x factor of not knowing which causes the anxiety and aggressiveness of others.

Thus, tolerance is highly important as it takes time for chemistry to settle and to find it's place to create new equations for new solutions


For humans not being able to absorb 'electrical wires' and microwave oven energy, well we are not that type of electricity. Some say that yes we are the same electricity that we have manmade...haha but no we will never be that energy, our bodies carry electrical energy that will never be anything close to manmade electricity, hence why that will never work. But humans among themselves are already the wires, like I said our structures have already been set deep inside within the mind, long before ever laying them out. It's just that humans feel the need sometimes to expel their selves onto the world by creating structures similar to our own, but it is merely a false image. Yes, though the false image surely holds meaning and substance it is not the same.

Indeed Shankie

Thanks Jason and Inner Space for the great reading. It's kinda weird that I'm happy I'm probably just hallucinating Lovely. ♥