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darksoul_
Note: Myself,I'm not convinced of the existance of ghosts,tho I think it may be very likely.
My gf has about the same opinion as me,Its possible she says,tho she has no idea ^^

now to the story
my gf claims,she was serious about and she's not the type to make things up to get attention,that
for the last few days some odd stuff has happened in her house.

In the middle of the night,for no apparent cause,her tv turns on,displaying white noise
She cant change the channel,nor turn it off by using the remote control (which works under normal circumstances when she normaly turns on tv)
so she has to manualy turn it on.

Also,at around 6.30ish in the morning for the last 3 days,she has been awakened by someone whispering her name.
She thought it was her mom waking her up,yet her mom is working at that time.There is no one else in the house.

She also hears footsteps on the stairway around this hour,tho she thinks this might be birds on the roof (which might be possible,if it wasnt for the fact that birds cant whisper her name..)

the logical conclusion she made was that it was a "ghost" or some entity,which I believe to be the case.
I told her not to worry,as it cant harm her and even ridiculed it by saying "greetings to your little ghost buddy" when finishing the conversation ^^


Now,does anyone have any advice about this?What to do?Can it harm her?

any comments,advice or w/e may be appreciated original.gif
WARRIOR FOR THE LIGHT
Did she just move into this house or has she and the family been there a while...? Do they know the history of the house?
Any family pass lately???
darksoul_
she's been living there for a few years iirc
only thing that passed away recently was her dog ^^

her grandmother died more then a year ago,if not longer.
eqgumby
Likely enough this is a sleep pattern thing. Any interest in documenting this phenomena? We'd love to some video or hear some audio if you're not yanking our chains here.

Personally, I think it's likely that no physical harm can be done. I think the only danger would be someone getting scared, and running into a wall. DON'T get all freaky and have a goth/wicca friend do any half *** "cleansings" or any Ouija boar bologna. Stick to logic and common sense, and seek the normal before you jump on the paranormal bandwagon.

Good luck, and be safe AND smart!
Phase 3
QUOTE (eqgumby @ Jun 5 2008, 08:46 PM) *
Likely enough this is a sleep pattern thing. Any interest in documenting this phenomena? We'd love to some video or hear some audio if you're not yanking our chains here.

Personally, I think it's likely that no physical harm can be done. I think the only danger would be someone getting scared, and running into a wall. DON'T get all freaky and have a goth/wicca friend do any half *** "cleansings" or any Ouija boar bologna. Stick to logic and common sense, and seek the normal before you jump on the paranormal bandwagon.

Good luck, and be safe AND smart!

I agree here it may very well just be something sleep related. Listen to what Eqgumby said about cleansings, valuable info.
eqgumby
QUOTE (Black_Swamp_Paranormal @ Jun 5 2008, 03:24 PM) *
I agree here it may very well just be something sleep related. Listen to what Eqgumby said about cleansings, valuable info.

See, I'm not a TOTAL jerk! (Just more of a part-timer...I dabble...) grin2.gif

My fear when I see this type of post, is the few that will immediately pop on here, and recommend burning sage, sprinkling holy-water, using Ouija boards, chanting, candle burning...I mean PLEASE people! None of this stuff works without the FAITH behind it to drive it.

It's like THROWING a bullet at a charging bear.

Keep in mind, this is as it relates to believers of any sort. For non-believers, see a shrink (Psychologist). wink2.gif
WARRIOR FOR THE LIGHT
I agree you shouldnt jump to any conclusions about this...keep it to the logical sense. But your posting seems youve already done that....

Dont worry...
If residual they dont even know your there, but since she hears her name could be a ghost or spirit....and maybe not. Could be what they said above here....

What does your heart tell you...your "gut".... listen to your gut, your intuition....Did grammy live there?
Was it like this soon after moving in or just started?
Darknight1
hmmm that is interesting. Have you had the wiring check in the tv to see if it was a faulty connection?

As far as I am concerned with your GF hearing her name being called out at 6:30am, Is she sure that its not just something she is dreaming about. If your interested my suggestion would be to get a cassette player of some kind and do some recordings through out the night. Just to see if you can pick up on any possible voices there that are not hers.

Like a few people here suggested don't jump the gun on this though.
Darknight1
QUOTE (WARRIOR FOR THE LIGHT @ Jun 5 2008, 08:53 PM) *
Dont worry...
If residual they dont even know your there, but since she hears her name could be a ghost or spirit....and maybe not. Could be what they said above here....



It doesn't sound like a residual entity if its making contact.
bankai26
Yea tv's and other electronic devices can turn on and do weird things when they get a little older. I've seen them do it and fixed the problem they never did it again. Definitely start recording video or audio. That way you can tell if your dreaming imagining or if this is really happening. Not to mention if you get a little answers you might feel a little more comfortable. I don't know if anything can really hurt you. Some people might say otherwise but i have never seen proof of an attack. its always speculation that thats what caused it. But if it has been going on for a long time with a buildup of stress phycosis or imagination can make the event more freihgtening. Stay calm, get some answers and it will be alright. If it is supposedly residual, why now all of a sudden? wouldn't the residual be going on for a while especially w/ no tragedies other thqan a pet?
Darknight1
I believe they can cause harm if you give them the opportunity. If they can move objects make lights flicker open and close doors etc there no doubt in my mind they could cause harm.
Asphodel
Could someone have accidentally set a timer on the TV? (unsure of how often it turns on)
bankai26
QUOTE (Asphodel @ Jun 5 2008, 10:45 PM) *
Could someone have accidentally set a timer on the TV? (unsure of how often it turns on)

yea. anything is possible but i would check the timer setting first its kinda obvious. But if its not your tv and the timer was set for some wee hours of the morning sure it could happen... but they said it was repeditive recently...
bankai26
QUOTE (Darknight1 @ Jun 5 2008, 10:41 PM) *
I believe they can cause harm if you give them the opportunity. If they can move objects make lights flicker open and close doors etc there no doubt in my mind they could cause harm.


everyone says that, but do you have proof of an attack.... for all we know they could of been health related and the source just thinks its paranormal due to a lack of health knowledge... you just never know... i don't trust many sources.... anything can be misinterpreted or rationalized into paranormal... Its all the sources interpretation.
JustNormal
The white noise is the one part that caught my attention, that it might not be SP or anything of that nature. Some spirits will try to communicate thru a TV or Radio etc..I would suggest she not talk to it, or confront it, and maybe it will move along. So far if it IS Paranormal, its harmless..JN
bankai26
QUOTE (JustNormal @ Jun 5 2008, 11:49 PM) *
The white noise is the one part that caught my attention, that it might not be SP or anything of that nature. Some spirits will try to communicate thru a TV or Radio etc..I would suggest she not talk to it, or confront it, and maybe it will move along. So far if it IS Paranormal, its harmless..JN

the question would be what type of tv is it? because some tv's do that esp. if its older w/ no cable box unless you turn it on. It might turn on to a static type antenne channel.
Carolina Cottontail
I had a TV turn on by itself many times. It turned out to be a faulty cable box. Now days, TVs don't require boxes, but if it is one that has one, I would disconnect it and take it in to be checked. Name whispering is quite another matter. Good luck!
bankai26
QUOTE (Carolina Cottontail @ Jun 6 2008, 12:30 AM) *
I had a TV turn on by itself many times. It turned out to be a faulty cable box. Now days, TVs don't require boxes, but if it is one that has one, I would disconnect it and take it in to be checked. Name whispering is quite another matter. Good luck!

yep. Name wispering would be a little weird to me especially if i knew there was no way i was asleep or tired or inubriated in anyway. and if i heard it a couple times with no explination.... Thats why we said get some audio/video so they can know for sure.
darksoul_
QUOTE (eqgumby @ Jun 5 2008, 09:46 PM) *
Likely enough this is a sleep pattern thing. Any interest in documenting this phenomena? We'd love to some video or hear some audio if you're not yanking our chains here.

Personally, I think it's likely that no physical harm can be done. I think the only danger would be someone getting scared, and running into a wall. DON'T get all freaky and have a goth/wicca friend do any half *** "cleansings" or any Ouija boar bologna. Stick to logic and common sense, and seek the normal before you jump on the paranormal bandwagon.

Good luck, and be safe AND smart!

I dont think my gf would be interested in recording any video or audio,she isnt really into all that stuff ^^

as far as I know,its a quite old TV and no timer is set (as it doesnt happen every night,plus for some reason it seems to only happen when she's there)
she went a week to schotland doing some work,it happend twice before she left for schotland.
then when she came back,during the days she was at home it happened again,the tv switching on that is.
Also,if it was a timer she would be able to turn it off or change channel by using the remote control.
However,she says she cant use the remote control when it happens,she has to do it manualy.
(the remote control works,as she can use it when she turns it on herself)

I havent talked to my gf since yesterday when she told me on the phone,and I wont see her till sunday.
I will ask her by phone tho if anything strange happened today,and I'll give you an update when I get more details when I see her sunday ^^

about the whispering
I doubt its sleep paterning as she's not used to being woken up by her mother,unless sometimes during the weekend.
During the week she's at her dorm (in Ghent,which is where I have my dorm aswell) so only person who wakes her up would be me,tho its usualy she who awakens me ^^

so I'm pretty sure its not sleep patterning,as it would be quite illogical.

Considering there have been no previous incidents till last week when it started,before she went off to schotland for work,I dont think its residual.
Anyone have any ideas why a spirit or w/e it is would suddenly decide to seek contact with her now?
Why should she not try to talk to it?Will it stay if she gives it attention ?

and,what influence can the entity have on her?can it give her negative energy or ?

and dont worry,no half a** cleanings gonna be happening ^^
IF it ever gets to a point that she wants to get rid of it, I'll be sure to get her to contact a real medium who has experience in such stuff original.gif

edit:and btw,Whats the difference between a spirit,a ghost or a residual entity?
Lonecat
QUOTE (Darknight1 @ Jun 6 2008, 02:41 AM) *
I believe they can cause harm if you give them the opportunity. If they can move objects make lights flicker open and close doors etc there no doubt in my mind they could cause harm.


I have never read of or heard about any kind of spirit or ghost harming anyone. The worst they could do would be to give a very sensitive and/or vulnerable person a shock that could affect him or her mentally. According to my aquired knowledge over many years, even when heavy objects or kitchen knives are being hurled across rooms with people present, the objects never actually hit a person though they may narrowly miss them. Either the poltergeist concerned is incapable of hurting a person physically or it simply wants only to scare that person. I think the best thing is to take a positive attitude and accept the fact that you have ghost in the house and try to contact it. It obviously is trying to make contact. What I do sometimes is welcome the entity and tell it I am its friend and that if it cannot find any other way of contacting me then it should visit me in a dream. I agree that flicking "holy" water all over the place (as far as I'm concerned all water is holy) and reciting mumbo-jumbo is not going to do anything. Why try to exorcise a ghost anyway? It is better to ask it how you can help it. Personally I would be delighted to live in a house where the ghost made it very clear that it wanted stay. I would even boast about it. I don't "believe" in ghosts any more than I "believe" in armchairs. I know they exist form personal experience.
darksoul_
I talked to her today over the phone,she says nothing strange happened tonight.
no tv,no whispering,tho she says she slept very good as she was very tired so she might have slept through the whispering ^^

I kinda hope it happens again tonight tho,would be silly if it suddenly decided to leave :/
bankai26
The tv definitely sounds like a faulty equipment. If it is an old tv and it turns on by itself its natural to go to white noise screen without the cable box on. Also the fact that she cant use the remote when it turns on but she can use the remote when she turns it on with the remote. I think its definitely equipment on that one. I donno if audio is a big deal she doesn't even have to listen to it you can. All she has to do is press record while she sleeps. Some people don't wanna be film visualy while they sleep, i donno why. if it keeps happening then bring it up more slowly... when there is a cause for it. Right now seems harmless. I think if you try and find it more it might come around more also. But you never know
kiddglock
QUOTE (darksoul_ @ Jun 5 2008, 08:11 PM) *
Can it harm her?


Ever hear of the Bell Witch?
bankai26
QUOTE (kiddglock @ Jun 6 2008, 01:26 PM) *
Ever hear of the Bell Witch?

Its still a story, someone elses acount of a situation or multiple jumping on the bandwaggon. i wanna see legitimate evidence of an attack, before accepting a witch story.
Shankpin
I wouldn't assume it's paranormal, until all other explanations are ruled out. The TV could very well be electrical, or an issue with the TV itself (not saying that's what's going on, just a thought). The whispering, hearing footsteps could be a sleeping issue. If she's been under a lot of stress it's more than likely the cause. If not, then I suggest her take tabs, write down anything strange that goes on, sort of keep a record of the events.. and go from there.
tnmomof2
Initially a few things come to mind. There is, of course, the possiblity that it is a ghost or entity. It could be her grandmother visiting her or something else.

The other explanations:

The TV: a short or some other malfunction in the TV. The TV we had before we got our current one would do weird stuff like turn itself on and off. We also had periods of not being able to do anything with it using the remote. It may be the TV is worn out and needs to be replaced.

The whispering and footsteps: sleep patterns, recurrent dream, one of those weird half awake, half asleep things that happens. Keep in mind that sometimes we dream the exact same thing several times and dreams can seem so real that it's hard to figure out if something happened or if it was a dream.

I would probably set up a tape recorder or camcorder (excuse the spelling) and see what is caught. I think poltergeist and other paranormal activity does occasionally occur but more often than not there's a rational explanation. I also tend to think if it is a ghost it's not one that's out to harm your girlfriend. How long has this been going on?

Good luck and keep us updated!
WARRIOR FOR THE LIGHT
I agree absolutly on the recorder...A voice activated one is better because it will not run continuous and run the tape out...but then again, it may not pick it up at all...If you can do both...plug in a regular recorder into a timer if it happens at a specific time and youll cover both options.....

Someone asked what residual was... thats residual energy left over from and event or person that is stuck in place. Soetimes it plays over and over the action of the past ...
Also to me, Ghost would be a "stuck" spirit...... and a spirit like, comes and goes.....
poltergeist to me is a "bad" spirit for lack of a better word....they will toy and play with you...Usually they are a lower level entity from the "bad" side..... only occasionally are they "hurtful" to a person....

Its name comes from the German Poltern "to knock" and Geist "spirit" ......

Sometime the poltergeist activities are caused by a spirit, and other times the stress of a person or individual causes a psychokineses phenomena.....

They are known to cause interference in telephones and electronic equipment, and turning lights and appliances on and off. Some poltergeists are said to pinch, bite, hit, and sexually attack the living.
Generally poltergeist activity starts and stops abruptly. The duration of it may extend over several hours to several months; however, some cases have been reported to last over several years. The activity almost always occurs at night when someone is presence. Typically this is the "agent," an individual who seems to serve as a focus or magnet for the activity. In most cases the agent is a factor, both those that seem paranormal or that may be caused by human PK. The agent is usually female and under the age of twenty.

Poltergeist disturbances have occurred globally since ancient times. In the late 1970s parapsychologists Alan Gauld and A. D. Cornell did a computer analysis of those cases collected since 1800 to that time. They identified sixty-three general characteristics, which include the following: 64 percent involved the movement of small objects; 58 percent were most active at night; 48 percent featured raps; 36 percent involved movement of large objects; 24 percent lasted longer than one year; 16 percent featured communication between the poltergeist and agent; 12 percent involved the opening and shutting of doors and windows.

Before the 19th century, poltergeist activity was blamed on the Devil, demons, witches, and ghosts of the dead. The Gauld-Cornell analysis found only 9 percent of the cases attributed to demons, 7 percent to witches, and 2 percent to spirits of the dead. Most of the demon and witches attributions occurred in non-Western countries. Poltergeist activity at séances was attributed to spirits of the dead.

Hope this gives a little more understanding for you..And she really shouldnt worry...Do not attempt to contact or entertain it if she wants it to stop...But by all means DO NOT BE DISRESPECTFUL or taunt it either.
The phenomena in living agent cases was without purpose and often violent, while cases involving spirits of the dead featured intelligent communication, purposeful movement of objects, and little violence.



Blessings to you both
JackalnChainz
QUOTE (Lonecat @ Jun 6 2008, 07:16 AM) *
I have never read of or heard about any kind of spirit or ghost harming anyone. The worst they could do would be to give a very sensitive and/or vulnerable person a shock that could affect him or her mentally. According to my aquired knowledge over many years, even when heavy objects or kitchen knives are being hurled across rooms with people present, the objects never actually hit a person though they may narrowly miss them. Either the poltergeist concerned is incapable of hurting a person physically or it simply wants only to scare that person. I think the best thing is to take a positive attitude and accept the fact that you have ghost in the house and try to contact it. It obviously is trying to make contact. What I do sometimes is welcome the entity and tell it I am its friend and that if it cannot find any other way of contacting me then it should visit me in a dream. I agree that flicking "holy" water all over the place (as far as I'm concerned all water is holy) and reciting mumbo-jumbo is not going to do anything. Why try to exorcise a ghost anyway? It is better to ask it how you can help it. Personally I would be delighted to live in a house where the ghost made it very clear that it wanted stay. I would even boast about it. I don't "believe" in ghosts any more than I "believe" in armchairs. I know they exist form personal experience.

look up the Sally House.
JackalnChainz
QUOTE (bankai26 @ Jun 6 2008, 02:57 PM) *
Its still a story, someone elses acount of a situation or multiple jumping on the bandwaggon. i wanna see legitimate evidence of an attack, before accepting a witch story.

If your searching for credibility, one of those bandwagon jumpers was the President of the United States. The Bell Witch is a well documented case witnessed by several people, and the results thereof felt by an entire community of people.
frodonet
Actually, after i read this case, it's hard to deduce that it is supernatural related. One of the reasons, is that TVs or electronic goods, can be tricky sometimes, even i had such experiences before. But still, better sent it for repairs or it's time to buy 42' inch flat screen TV.lol laugh.gif

Regarding the voices, sometimes we might be dreaming or imagining things. But best is what suggested by fellow UMers, record it if you want to confirm it.
But is there any major incidents happened or did she visited some weird place recently? Cause if so, some unwelcomed entity could have followed her home.
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