There may be three states of matter/energy.


1. Energy

2. Matter

3. conscience



Now in the case of the two that we know of Energy and Matter they can clump together eventually becoming planets matter and energy or stars energy.


So why not Conscience clumping together becoming smarter.

Inspired are we?

I agree that the whole universe is consciousness. If the universe gives birth to intelligent consciousness then why is it so irrational to accept that the universe itself is intelligent consciousness?

However I dont believe that consciousness via matter, energy and conscience grow in order to evolve into higher intelligence because in my view the true nature of the universe 'infinite consciousness' is already infinite in every way possible including intelligence. The universe in my view is always as it should be because it can only ever be as it should be 'infinite, eternal consciousness'.

Any seeming evolution of the universe as a whole or in parts is illusion, however paradoxically there is no illusion because all there is infinite consciousness that is absolutely perfect.

isn't the 3 states of matter liquid , solid and gas ?? I know science class was a long time ago.......

the 4 states of matter are liquid solid gas and plasma. the ancient Greeks said it was land, water, air, and fire. sounds pretty close to me.


But I am talking about something else and didn't know what else to call it.


maybe what we have is intellect which can go down one of two paths.


intellect to energy to matter

or

intellect to intelligence to conscience to self aware to god hood(this requiring a physical body IE matter.).

There's tons of them... List of states of matter



Because there's simply nothing to support that? I could just as easily say that it's the earth that is alive that gave us intelligence. Without more, it's just a willful piecing together rather then something based on anything.



It's hardly perfect if you're considering that we're special for having intelligence. We have a good chance of dying off in the future then we do have in surviving the branching out off this rock. We already know that the universe isn't a pretty place or safe one at it for humanity as we keep looking around. Other then that I'm not sure what you would mean by perfect... Perfect maybe for the universe in it's self maybe if it was alive as you suggested earlier?

wow that's alot of ways --- granted some are only theory . but still .....

should this have been put in another forum?