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Eddy_P
Evaluate 10 Ancient Texts that Reveal Proof of Time Travel

For many years, claims of ‘Evidence of Time Travel being found by the Australian researcher Ronald Pegg’ have been circulating around the internet.

He claimed to have found descriptions in ancient texts that match to the contents of a certain 1995 produced multi-media compact disk. This would mean that somehow, modern technology was taken back in time for ancient people to view.

It is asserted that “The documented accounts in certain ancient texts known as prophetic 'dreams' or 'visions' are about the contents and pictures from the 1995 Ancient Civilizations of the Mediterranean multi-media cd-rom”.

Now you have the opportunity to evaluate this specific claim with a ‘verse by verse’ examination of ten texts that he said contains proof.

http://www.pphcstudygroup.org.au/search4ett/index.html

Use this link then go directly to the Evaluation Session (or read an Introduction beforehand).
Leonardo
Given that time travel has not yet been achieved, and is likely to be many, many years in the future (if ever) before it can be achieved, I would ask why a time traveller would take items such as these from decades past that would surely be out of date by the time the time travel is accomplished?
Jackel10
QUOTE (Leonardo @ Jun 7 2008, 06:57 PM) *
Given that time travel has not yet been achieved, and is likely to be many, many years in the future (if ever) before it can be achieved, I would ask why a time traveller would take items such as these from decades past that would surely be out of date by the time the time travel is accomplished?



How do we know time travel has not been achieved yet ?

I don't think we can presume that this has not happened especially with the formula the famous one we all know
E=MC2... Which is debatable but accurate to a degree Einstein was nearly there to solving time travel and someone must of continued his work.

I would say that time travel if not already happened is closer than we think..
keithisco
QUOTE (Jackel10 @ Jun 7 2008, 11:42 PM) *
How do we know time travel has not been achieved yet ?

I don't think we can presume that this has not happened especially with the formula the famous one we all know
E=MC2... Which is debatable but accurate to a degree Einstein was nearly there to solving time travel and someone must of continued his work.

I would say that time travel if not already happened is closer than we think..

E (energy released in ergs) = Mass (in grams) X the square of the speed of light???

Cant see where you get time - travel from that.
Leonardo
QUOTE (Jackel10 @ Jun 7 2008, 10:42 PM) *
How do we know time travel has not been achieved yet ?


Good question. As far as being able to travel into the future, relativistic theory certainly indicates this is possible so the answer to your question regarding this is "we don't, if you consider that there have been past technological civilisations with the knowledge and capability to do so". Personally, I don't hold to that view.

As for time travel to the past, that is problematic for more reasons than the apparent paradox issue. Being able to travel to the past would indicate the past, in a sense, still exists - perhaps that the universe is a series of frames (as some theories hypothesise) and that each frame is then 'frozen' and continues to exist in some way, or perhaps that our perception of time as linear is false (although that doesn't appear to be the case) and all time effectively exists in one instant.

In the first case one would have to consider that you would have to effectively 'leave' the universe (which I believe to be impossible) to access the 'past copy', and then there is the problem of knowing just where and/or when that past copy exists. In the second case there is this 'were and when' issue once again.

Additionally one would have to 'know' the state of the entire universe at that precise moment in time to be able to isolate it and 'target' it from all the other 'frames/times', and this would seem to be technologically impossible - certainly at our level of technology anyway.

For these reasons (and others) I don't believe time travel into the past has been achieved, nor is it ever likely to be.
Catford Hound

I don't personally believe time travel will ever be possible, i can only imagine that if time travel was possible, then some future human race has already developed it, and one must assume using it on a regular basis!
based on that thought, human nature dictates that the technology would be used to further ones societies own gains.

I.e whats to stop one future government aid a past government, and on that point, i imagine our world would be shifting from one reality to another every five minutes!

Jackel10
QUOTE (keithisco @ Jun 7 2008, 11:14 PM) *
E (energy released in ergs) = Mass (in grams) X the square of the speed of light???

Cant see where you get time - travel from that.


E = energy and M= Mass not in weight like you have made the mistake of making the M= mass as in the same amount of energy it is in relation .this was Einsteins theory..
C=2 Is speed of light squared so to answer your question the reply is within the equation...

Cheers Tom..
DieChecker
QUOTE (Catford Hound @ Jun 12 2008, 09:59 AM) *
I don't personally believe time travel will ever be possible, i can only imagine that if time travel was possible, then some future human race has already developed it, and one must assume using it on a regular basis!
based on that thought, human nature dictates that the technology would be used to further ones societies own gains.

I.e whats to stop one future government aid a past government, and on that point, i imagine our world would be shifting from one reality to another every five minutes!

That is how I see it too. If there were time travel that allowed anything to go into the past, and they were able to leave behind evidence, then we can only assume that the technologies use was either extremely limited, or that the culture that invented it then wiped out the entire human race. Otherwise we would probably find a lot more discrepancies.

Also we can assume there is no Time Cop organization, as we surely would then find NO evidence at all.

So anything found in the past that seems to come from the present or the past is either a fake, or evidence of the extinction of the human race.

Eddy_P
RE: “So anything found in the past that seems to come from the present…..is…..evidence of the extinction of the human race”.

Or the race that built the pyramids.

Ronald Pegg’s theory on time travel (based upon the evidence of modern technology being described and depicted in ancient texts and stories) says that the first TT experiment went back to ancient Middle East.

At a certain point in recorded history, descriptions start to turn up in ancient myths and legends about the contents of modern cd-roms.

At a certain point in history we notice that several archaic races seemed to have ‘disappeared’ from the face of the earth.

Hmmm. Are the two connected ?

Did the first TT experiment that is documented in ancient Middle Eastern stories and myths ‘overwrite’ those earlier cultures and replace them with the ‘history’ reported in the Bible (for example) ?

Proof of modern tech in ancient stories here
Eddy_P
QUOTE (Eddy_P @ Jun 8 2008, 02:31 AM) *
Evaluate 10 Ancient Texts that Reveal Proof of Time Travel
Now you have the opportunity to evaluate this specific claim with a ‘verse by verse’ examination of ten texts that he said contains proof.
http://www.pphcstudygroup.org.au/search4ett/index.html

Some results so far

Whether pictures match ancient descriptions as a percentage, where
0-30 is NO,
>30-50 is probably not,
>50-75 is MAYBE,
>75-85 is probably, and
>85 to 100 is YES.

Results from 12 Evaluation Sessions
nil: 0 - 30
2 : >30 - 50
4 : >50 - 75
4 : >75 - 85
2 : >85 - 100
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12 in total

Average is 67.71 percent, which means it is more than a coincidence.

For these figures to actually be relevant, we need another series of evaluations by at least a 100 people to provide a better overall summary of opinions.

Can you help ? Can you spare the time to complete the Evaluation Session ?

Eddy_P
RE: by Leonardo concerning my latest (duplicate) post
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It is spam. Eddy_P posted exactly the same 'information' in this thread on this very forum a while ago. Probably waited until now because he thought no one would remember.

Mr Eddy_P, very disappointing. UM is not a playground for your self-publicity. Reported.

I apologize.
It was not my intention to spam the forum.
I had results to present.
I did a search for my old thread but could not find it, so I thought I had not posted it on this forum.
That is why I posted a call for new help on the existing research project.
Again, I am sorry.
Eddy Pengelly

Results on the current project (ie. the OP) have been presented above.
Eddy_P
For Atheist God, who said
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Just based on what I've read on your website Mr. Time Detective I can't see anything of substance to verify your claims that time travel has occurred. Seems like a bunch of speculation and hearsay to me. I could be wrong but I doubt it.
Convince me that your claims are different then other claims of similar nature.

You may wish to visit the World Breaking Discoveries website for an introduction, or specifically, view the 14 News Reports that are available.
Leonardo
QUOTE (Eddy_P @ Jul 30 2008, 08:55 AM) *
Some results so far

Whether pictures match ancient descriptions as a percentage, where
0-30 is NO,
>30-50 is probably not,
>50-75 is MAYBE,
>75-85 is probably, and
>85 to 100 is YES.

Results from 12 Evaluation Sessions
nil: 0 - 30
2 : >30 - 50
4 : >50 - 75
4 : >75 - 85
2 : >85 - 100
--
12 in total

Average is 67.71 percent, which means it is more than a coincidence.

For these figures to actually be relevant, we need another series of evaluations by at least a 100 people to provide a better overall summary of opinions.

Can you help ? Can you spare the time to complete the Evaluation Session ?


Thank you for clearing up the confusion over your reposting of this in another thread, Eddy. thumbsup.gif

As for the evaluation, I have browsed through it and conclude that the researchers under the impression that ancient texts reference this cd are experiencing apophenia. The 'matches' being made are far too loose - and in some cases contrived - to indicate a real correlation.

The evaluation itself is leading (and therefore misleading) as the question 'Do you see a match' is easily answered in the affirmative without necessarily agreeing with the premise of this cd being somehow transported back in time.
Atheist God
QUOTE (Eddy_P @ Jul 30 2008, 03:00 AM) *
For Atheist God, who said
You may wish to visit the World Breaking Discoveries website for an introduction, or specifically, view the 14 News Reports that are available.


This isn't proof...

What I suggest is some peer reviewed journals from archeologists, historians and other researchers in the field of ancient studies to confirm your claims... As a man of science I simply cannot accept such an out of this world conclusion with out proof.
Eddy_P
QUOTE (Leonardo @ Jul 30 2008, 05:48 PM) *
The evaluation itself is leading (and therefore misleading) as the question 'Do you see a match' is easily answered in the affirmative without necessarily agreeing with the premise of this cd being somehow transported back in time.

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Purpose of Evaluation Session

Some people seem to be not understanding or are missing the point of this evaluation session.

HISTORY:
1. Ronald Pegg made an observation regarding an ancient text and modern cd-rom pictures.
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2. Ronald Pegg investigated 20 more ancient texts, and made associated observations regarding those ancient texts and pictures from a modern cd-rom.
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3. He proposed an hypothesis - “The documented accounts in certain ancient texts known as prophetic 'dreams' or 'visions' are about the contents and pictures from the 1995 Ancient Civilizations of the Mediterranean multi-media cd-rom”.
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4. He asserted a Conclusion based upon his observations and investigations - “This is Evidence of Time Travel”.
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5. He established a general Theory - “Certain noted Angels giving 'visions of the future' who were documented in the sacred texts of the Hebrew, Christian, Muslim, and Mormon faiths (and others) - were not of a divine origin...as they were actually human chrononauts taking back warning messages concerning false religions, details of certain historical and astronomical events, and a chronology regarding a future war. Those technological time travellers were misunderstood and perceived as 'Angels'”.
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This session is NOT evaluating points 3 & 4 & 5 and therefore has nothing to do with the premise of this cd being somehow transported back in time. This and other associated topics may be discussed in later sessions.
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This session IS evaluating the validity of Pegg’s original OBSERVATIONS (points 1 & 2) by asking “Do the descriptions in ancient texts match to the pictures seen on a modern cd-rom.
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To do this I am asking you to assist with the evaluation process by testing, with a ‘verse by verse’ examination, ten texts that Pegg said contains proof. LINK to Evaluation Session
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