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LostInThought
I know...I breath heavy and get real scared when I watch deep sea movies like Open Water, Deep Blue Sea, etc. they truley scare me more than any other movies, yet I'm in love with them and love watching them! Truley bizarre. I have never been close to a shark or a whale or anything of that nature but I do plan to one day. I really want to face my fear. I plan to go scuba diving or to them parks where you can swim with sharks and stuff. Another thing I'm super scared of is tornados..but I think it is because ever since I was 5 I would have terrible dreams of them chasing me, not just one but it would be like multiple tornadoes and I still have tornado dreams atleast one every other month and that's just from the dreams I actually remember. It would be interesting if dreams and fears and such things like this would relate to a past life. Very very interesting.
Brahmana
QUOTE (LostInThought @ Jul 7 2008, 11:23 PM) *
I know...I breath heavy and get real scared when I watch deep sea movies like Open Water, Deep Blue Sea, etc. they truley scare me more than any other movies, yet I'm in love with them and love watching them! Truley bizarre. I have never been close to a shark or a whale or anything of that nature but I do plan to one day. I really want to face my fear. I plan to go scuba diving or to them parks where you can swim with sharks and stuff. Another thing I'm super scared of is tornados..but I think it is because ever since I was 5 I would have terrible dreams of them chasing me, not just one but it would be like multiple tornadoes and I still have tornado dreams atleast one every other month and that's just from the dreams I actually remember. It would be interesting if dreams and fears and such things like this would relate to a past life. Very very interesting.



They almost certainly do. Check out the book Life Beyond Life by Hans Holzer if you get a chance. Some of the case studies in the book, under hyptnotic regression talk about these sort of things, dreams, fears, phobias....
LostInThought
QUOTE (brahman1888 @ Jul 7 2008, 11:56 PM) *
They almost certainly do. Check out the book Life Beyond Life by Hans Holzer if you get a chance. Some of the case studies in the book, under hyptnotic regression talk about these sort of things, dreams, fears, phobias....


Good timing to mention a book for me..I was just updating my barnes and noble wishlist for next time I get paid on some new books I've been wanting to get. grin2.gif
Brahmana
QUOTE (LostInThought @ Jul 8 2008, 11:55 AM) *
Good timing to mention a book for me..I was just updating my barnes and noble wishlist for next time I get paid on some new books I've been wanting to get. grin2.gif



lol cool...then you should also check out the book 'Many Lives, Many Masters' also on reincarnation. Excellent read.
antediluvianfates
QUOTE (brahman1888 @ Jun 24 2008, 07:17 AM) *
Dying is to me, mirrored by what Plato says, that the physical body is, at least in a sense, the prison for the soul. When you leave this plane; your soul will be aware of everything.....past lives, purposes of same.....you name it, we know all of it. It is our conscious minds that are unable to grasp any of this. ... but you are much greater than this personality, in reality it will be the equivalent of taking off a dirty t-shirt.

That is such an eye-opening, raw thought. I appreciate your thought-provoking idea, brahman. I would have to say I agree with this statement moreso than anything else- but everything else seems to have fascinating points...
Brahmana
QUOTE (antediluvianfates @ Jul 8 2008, 04:34 PM) *
That is such an eye-opening, raw thought. I appreciate your thought-provoking idea, brahman. I would have to say I agree with this statement moreso than anything else- but everything else seems to have fascinating points...



Thank you. The key here is to remember that this 'self', this 'I', and even this personality.....are impermanent. It is well to study Buddhism and Buddhist meditations. One needs to dwell on their own impermanence. Your thoughts, your emotions.....just as they rise and fall away in this plane, so they will disappear at death.
cryptidlover23
i believe i was once someone who preformed magic before the pharohs... or something like that. huh.gif
Brahmana
QUOTE (cryptidlover23 @ Jul 12 2008, 09:08 PM) *
i believe i was once someone who preformed magic before the pharohs... or something like that. huh.gif



All souls existed from the beginning. That is highly possible.

....As to what I may have been, I am not certain. However, I do have a feeling that I may have been Russian. I have always had this strange fasicnation with Russia, and yet I have no Russian ancestry whatever, no apparent cultural connection. Love classic Russian architecture. Love Russian Orthodox church services, icons and music......so deeply that it makes me wonder if I may have been some sort of priest. At my first place, even, I created a prayer/meditation room full of icons. Later found out this was standard practice there. Hmmm.....I don't know, but this Russian thing is.....well, bizarre.
sumthingnice60
I don't believe in past lives and hopefully someone here can clear some questions I have. Let's take the very first humans as an example. What kind of past life do they have? Do they even have a past life?
Brahmana
QUOTE (sumthingnice60 @ Jul 13 2008, 12:51 AM) *
I don't believe in past lives and hopefully someone here can clear some questions I have. Let's take the very first humans as an example. What kind of past life do they have? Do they even have a past life?



Well, that would depend on who you ask. My opinion is that our souls pre exist the material form. We were in spirit before we were in matter. The cycle of birth, death, and rebirth, then begins in spirit, followed by descent into matter. That would be their 'past' life, if you will, of the first humans, they were, we all were spiritual beings. The first incarnations were us becoming encased in the tomb of the flesh, as metaphorically discussed in the adam and eve story, that was the real fall of man, becoming a part of creation, which, in the beginning we were outside of.
ShadowsAndDust
What do I think of past lives?

Build a computer from scratch, give it a hard drive and on that hard drive insert a file, lets call the file 'memory'. Now destroy that computer completely, leave nothing behind. Now build a second computer and give it a hard drive and see if the file is on the hard drive. Is it there?
Oderint
QUOTE (ShadowsAndDust @ Jul 14 2008, 12:41 AM) *
What do I think of past lives?

Build a computer from scratch, give it a hard drive and on that hard drive insert a file, lets call the file 'memory'. Now destroy that computer completely, leave nothing behind. Now build a second computer and give it a hard drive and see if the file is on the hard drive. Is it there?

haha, great comparison laugh.gif
however it doesn't apply 100% IMO because humans have (I think) souls. A computer file would be more comparable to a humans thought.
Give birth to a human, give it a voice. destroy the human and give birth to a new one. Does it have a voice? yes wink2.gif
ShadowsAndDust
Hmm, now that is interesting, I forgot about the soul.

Well, what happens after a person dies and the soul is released from their body? Does it instantly go into another?
Brahmana
QUOTE (ShadowsAndDust @ Jul 14 2008, 08:01 AM) *
Hmm, now that is interesting, I forgot about the soul.

Well, what happens after a person dies and the soul is released from their body? Does it instantly go into another?



Some believe that; its eseentially called transmigration. I think sometimes that may be the case, but more often than not, no. I think we spend time learning in other spheres and there are typically fairly long intervals between lives.
AngelOfMusic
Sorry I haven't replied, been on holiday and haven't had the chance. I love all these ideas, and have really broadened my opinions on reincarnation. I think that the very first humans may have had lives in the future, so the first humans would die, then be in 21st century, then die and be in 16th. That's my opinion anyway. I had a really good idea then! But completely lost it. When it comes to me i'll post it as soon as.

Angel x
Plainbob13
Tell me. When someone speaks about past lives. They always say they were someone famous. "oh yes in my past life i was Joan of arc." Why is it noone ever was a stall mucker or a street cleaner. " In my past life i emptied chamber pots." You never run across someone like that.
saturnrings
QUOTE (AngelOfMusic @ Jun 8 2008, 08:20 PM) *
Hello happy.gif. Maybe this isn't the best place to post this, feel free to move it or something if i've got it wrong, but what do people think about the idea of past lives? In my opinion, i believe that we have quite a few past lives, at least until we have experienced and learnt all there is to learn. And each life is in a different time and place, and time does not matter at all. For example, i could die in (hopefully) 60 or 70 years, and get born in Ancient Greece. I think that we have an almost subconcscious tendency to the era that some of our past or future lives lived in. I think that maybe, if it is true, that i had or will ahve lives in Ancient Rome and 18th century France. So there is my obsession with Gladiator and Les Miserables!

Anyway, your thoughts would be appreciated happy.gif

Angel x

i went along to a past life regression session and it was worth every penny original.gif
lots of things fell into place with my thoughts, experiences and aspirations
YES i recommend it to you, just find a decent person with a descent experience and decent price

tip: before you go write down in a piece of paper of what you think your memories are, so ask the therapist to ask you more in depth questions....make your money work really, and get what you want to get out of this
puridalan
QUOTE (ShadowsAndDust @ Jul 14 2008, 12:01 PM) *
Hmm, now that is interesting, I forgot about the soul. Well, what happens after a person dies and the soul is released from their body? Does it instantly go into another?
Instantly no, death is never really in most cases with a snap of a finger. Sometimes it takes hours or longer for even all of the energy to clear out of the body and yes in some cases it clears like a speed of light. You can always tell because the body is emm white...sounds weird, but it's not black like most think it might be, because it's all been evaporated. I don't think it is ever 'created nor destroyed' just transferred. All into different places, I don't believe even if we have a em soul that it is all in one piece, but many layers and pieces of energy. Thus some of it sinks into the ground, some of it remains floating here and others above the clouds. Sort of like the water cycle, hell we are composed of a ton of water ha-ha, but the electrical energy as well is like thee proton transference itself.
My quote I like to say, "Never lost ,just misplaced"

I don't believe in full recarination, just bits and pieces of yourself passed on through your own bloodline more distinctly or where ever the wind takes you ha-ha. The reason why I say this is because when you die it's not just one little nice piece (at least to me) so it only makes sense to see your energy in parts of other people even things, or things that you've touched in the past before your death. Hence if someone where to remember a life, it would only be part of it, because that's all they were, were part of a life. So, when you live again you are always composed of unique energy each and everytime never the same, though you might have some of the same traits due to such things.
puridalan
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Aug 10 2008, 02:37 PM) *
Tell me. When someone speaks about past lives. They always say they were someone famous. "oh yes in my past life i was Joan of arc." Why is it noone ever was a stall mucker or a street cleaner. " In my past life i emptied chamber pots." You never run across someone like that.


Wrong, but for the most part yes a lot of people don't know what the hell they are saying. I've never saw myself as someone famous, though I have had famous 'recollections' though not of myself, it's only because my family had a very famous bloodline...if you want to call it that. But from a very very few small clips I've had I was not famous in any way shape or form, in some very poor, but rich in spirtual thought. ^^
Brahmana
QUOTE (Plainbob13 @ Aug 10 2008, 10:37 AM) *
Tell me. When someone speaks about past lives. They always say they were someone famous. "oh yes in my past life i was Joan of arc." Why is it noone ever was a stall mucker or a street cleaner. " In my past life i emptied chamber pots." You never run across someone like that.



yeah but this is kind of an over generalization. a lot of past life recall cases i've read were nothing so glorious. because a lot of people see those cases, the sensational ones, they tend to think that typically is the case, but it really isn't.
thecatinthehat
QUOTE (ShadowsAndDust @ Jul 13 2008, 11:41 PM) *
What do I think of past lives?

Build a computer from scratch, give it a hard drive and on that hard drive insert a file, lets call the file 'memory'. Now destroy that computer completely, leave nothing behind. Now build a second computer and give it a hard drive and see if the file is on the hard drive. Is it there?


The core of your operating system of choice would be there, along with your favourite programs. Your personal documents would be lost unless you shared them on the internet and they eventually made their way back to the new computer.

What is the soul? What is a personality?
thecatinthehat
QUOTE (ShadowsAndDust @ Jul 14 2008, 01:01 PM) *
Hmm, now that is interesting, I forgot about the soul.

Well, what happens after a person dies and the soul is released from their body? Does it instantly go into another?


I recall a quote from someone:

"A person is the soul. If they feel they have a soul, that is probably the body talking. If they want to argue about it, it is definitely the mind that is talking."
puridalan
QUOTE (thecatinthehat @ Aug 10 2008, 09:32 PM) *
I recall a quote from someone:

"A person is the soul. If they feel they have a soul, that is probably the body talking. If they want to argue about it, it is definitely the mind that is talking."



The heart came before the brain itself, it beats before the brain does. Does the heart not think before the brain? Does the stomach not act as your 'gut of inuition'? Which body part would you like to give more power to...or is there really so much more than just a piece, rather than a multi-extraordinair system all together, branching out.
Normal Person
If you believe in reincarnation then you believe in past lifes. The only valid religion in my opinion is Buddism, because buddism does not teach you about a god, but a person, a person who was spritually enlightened, or "Awake", 99% of the earths population are full of EGO, EGO is the main cause of every negetive thing you can look at. Without ego, we would all be englightened and would essentially already be in the Nirvana. Now if you guys know about astral projection, higher conciousnesses, anything to do with the soul, then you realize that there has to be a purpose to this "soul", obviously we werent just a biological accident and ended up with free will by mere power of nature. There is a deeper meaning to life, and this deeper meaning involves the spirit, or soul. We live here conciously on the physical realm of the universe, but the univserse is a multi-sided perplex, there are different layers, or conciousnesses, or alternate realitys that can be attained within ourselves. Astral projection is the seeing through your soul, and leaving the physical body and the physical realm, and when your are projecting, you are in the astral plane of the universe, anyone that has astral projected completely has realized that there are spirits going around the astral plane, doing the same thing, just wandering. Now my believe, and the believe of others, is that this astral plane is a temporary plane you go to when you either astral project, or when you die. When you die your soul leaves your body, thus entering the astral plane, then you wait for something, nobody knows what, and you are reincarnated into another person because there is something you did wrong in your previous life. If you had not made any mistakes, had no ego, were completely selfless as buddism teaches, then when you died you would have skipped the stage of the astral plane, and gone onto the HIGHER plane, the higher level of conciousness, Nirvana, Heaven, paradise, whatever you want to call it, very few souls have gone onto this plane, it isnt as simple as "being a good citizen" as christianity and catholicism teaches, modern religions are absolutely *******ed, they are completely twisting around the fact that there is in fact a soul, and are limiting everything to the physical side of the world. So you are reincarnated if you have something further to learn, and that is where "past lives" originates from. The soul is enternal, the body is temporary.
puridalan
QUOTE (Normal Person @ Aug 11 2008, 03:09 AM) *
If you believe in reincarnation then you believe in past lifes. The only valid religion in my opinion is Buddism, because buddism does not teach you about a god, but a person, a person who was spritually enlightened, or "Awake", 99% of the earths population are full of EGO, EGO is the main cause of every negetive thing you can look at. Without ego, we would all be englightened and would essentially already be in the Nirvana. Now if you guys know about astral projection, higher conciousnesses, anything to do with the soul, then you realize that there has to be a purpose to this "soul", obviously we werent just a biological accident and ended up with free will by mere power of nature. There is a deeper meaning to life, and this deeper meaning involves the spirit, or soul. We live here conciously on the physical realm of the universe, but the univserse is a multi-sided perplex, there are different layers, or conciousnesses, or alternate realitys that can be attained within ourselves. Astral projection is the seeing through your soul, and leaving the physical body and the physical realm, and when your are projecting, you are in the astral plane of the universe, anyone that has astral projected completely has realized that there are spirits going around the astral plane, doing the same thing, just wandering. Now my believe, and the believe of others, is that this astral plane is a temporary plane you go to when you either astral project, or when you die. When you die your soul leaves your body, thus entering the astral plane, then you wait for something, nobody knows what, and you are reincarnated into another person because there is something you did wrong in your previous life. If you had not made any mistakes, had no ego, were completely selfless as buddism teaches, then when you died you would have skipped the stage of the astral plane, and gone onto the HIGHER plane, the higher level of conciousness, Nirvana, Heaven, paradise, whatever you want to call it, very few souls have gone onto this plane, it isnt as simple as "being a good citizen" as christianity and catholicism teaches, modern religions are absolutely *******ed, they are completely twisting around the fact that there is in fact a soul, and are limiting everything to the physical side of the world. So you are reincarnated if you have something further to learn, and that is where "past lives" originates from. The soul is enternal, the body is temporary.



I agree with you to an extent. But not all spirits, souls or ghosts are floating because they 'screwed' up, sometimes that's just it they are wandering or in some cases waiting for someone/thing. But some of it isn't the whole left behind, only a part of it. I thought for a long time my dead brother would go straight up because he was an infant...not the case...and then that changed my whole perspective on where we go in general. It's different for every single person, the place, timeframe, how much energy itself, it if goes in one place, or lots of different places...the possibilities are really limitless. It's not always learning for the first time, but re-learning that comes with some of the largest rewards, the gratification of them are brought back up after being dormant for some time.
thecatinthehat
QUOTE (puridalan @ Aug 11 2008, 12:45 AM) *
The heart came before the brain itself, it beats before the brain does. Does the heart not think before the brain? Does the stomach not act as your 'gut of inuition'? Which body part would you like to give more power to...or is there really so much more than just a piece, rather than a multi-extraordinair system all together, branching out.


I wouldn't give more power to either, I think.

People who identify with the mind tend to block out emotion. They become good at figuring things out, but also joyless, robotic, and sometimes drug abusers (to block emotion).

Vice versa, those who identify with the body prefer to not use their mind. They become naive and stupid, though intuitive and lively.

A person in good shape would use both; she would experience the whole ranges of mind and emotion. She would be rational and logical when required, and also able to listen to her body through its emotions when that was needed.

Anyway: What I believe may survive physical death is the hidden observer that experiences these emotions and thoughts. Some feel it is the body, others figure it is the mind, but it is really senior to both; its the 'I'.
puridalan
QUOTE (thecatinthehat @ Aug 11 2008, 04:47 PM) *
I wouldn't give more power to either, I think.People who identify with the mind tend to block out emotion. They become good at figuring things out, but also joyless, robotic, and sometimes drug abusers (to block emotion).Vice versa, those who identify with the body prefer to not use their mind. They become naive and stupid, though intuitive and lively.A person in good shape would use both; she would experience the whole ranges of mind and emotion. She would be rational and logical when required, and also able to listen to her body through its emotions when that was needed. Anyway: What I believe may survive physical death is the hidden observer that experiences these emotions and thoughts. Some feel it is the body, others figure it is the mind, but it is really senior to both; its the 'I'.


Well good job, because all of it is composed of energy correct? But where does the important part come from...or what would you think is the most important thing to the human body if you could pick one word
Brahmana
QUOTE (Normal Person @ Aug 10 2008, 11:09 PM) *
If you believe in reincarnation then you believe in past lifes. The only valid religion in my opinion is Buddism, because buddism does not teach you about a god, but a person, a person who was spritually enlightened, or "Awake", 99% of the earths population are full of EGO, EGO is the main cause of every negetive thing you can look at. Without ego, we would all be englightened and would essentially already be in the Nirvana. Now if you guys know about astral projection, higher conciousnesses, anything to do with the soul, then you realize that there has to be a purpose to this "soul", obviously we werent just a biological accident and ended up with free will by mere power of nature. There is a deeper meaning to life, and this deeper meaning involves the spirit, or soul. We live here conciously on the physical realm of the universe, but the univserse is a multi-sided perplex, there are different layers, or conciousnesses, or alternate realitys that can be attained within ourselves. Astral projection is the seeing through your soul, and leaving the physical body and the physical realm, and when your are projecting, you are in the astral plane of the universe, anyone that has astral projected completely has realized that there are spirits going around the astral plane, doing the same thing, just wandering. Now my believe, and the believe of others, is that this astral plane is a temporary plane you go to when you either astral project, or when you die. When you die your soul leaves your body, thus entering the astral plane, then you wait for something, nobody knows what, and you are reincarnated into another person because there is something you did wrong in your previous life. If you had not made any mistakes, had no ego, were completely selfless as buddism teaches, then when you died you would have skipped the stage of the astral plane, and gone onto the HIGHER plane, the higher level of conciousness, Nirvana, Heaven, paradise, whatever you want to call it, very few souls have gone onto this plane, it isnt as simple as "being a good citizen" as christianity and catholicism teaches, modern religions are absolutely *******ed, they are completely twisting around the fact that there is in fact a soul, and are limiting everything to the physical side of the world. So you are reincarnated if you have something further to learn, and that is where "past lives" originates from. The soul is enternal, the body is temporary.



I agree with you here.
CosmicStar
I have no doubt in my self that I have reincarnated many many times into this body I am in now.
-Reborn-
I have wondered at times if Reincarnation (past life) experiences are no more then Genetic Memory. If there is something about our brains that has stored and laid dorment since its a useless feature in our current evolutionary state.

Just something to ponder, not overly sure on the biology of it.

Genetic Memory
puridalan
QUOTE (-Reborn- @ Aug 15 2008, 10:00 PM) *
I have wondered at times if Reincarnation (past life) experiences are no more then Genetic Memory. If there is something about our brains that has stored and laid dorment since its a useless feature in our current evolutionary state.

Just something to ponder, not overly sure on the biology of it.

Genetic Memory


Yes, I believe that has SOME part to do with it, for example I will do things, say things, even 'dream' things my grandparents before me did. Most cases I would never have known, only been lucky by having weird conversations with my relatives, and their history, talking to them, and even getting documents back as far as the 1500s, very intresting to look into tell you that.
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