Joe013
Feb 26 2004, 03:16 AM
Has anyone seen that Passion of the Christ movie? I saw it Wednesday and, to tell you the truth, it kinda freaked me. I am a beleiver in God, if a little skeptically, but this movie has really made me question my skepticism. What gets me is, some argue that Jesus was crazy, or a liar, but any man who is willing to put himself through what he went to for any other person, is a good man in my book. I think I would follow him, God or not, just for that. Any comments? It was REALLY graphic, and pretty disturbing. I think I might have nightmares tonight. And I'm dead serious.
Buddy_Hongster
Feb 26 2004, 03:20 AM
Didn't have the chance to watch it....

It was banned in my country
Gazz
Feb 26 2004, 03:25 AM
What I find amazing, is watching all these
people being interviewed after the movie
and hearing them talk about how upsetting
it was, how graphic it was and how it
"really got to them"
Yet many of these same people say they
believe it is a good thing for their
children or all children to see this
movie.
I am not sure that is a good Idea.
But what the hell do I know, I am just
a dad!
And all I know is my kids have nightmares
after watching too much spongebob squarepants!
They actually had a woman die watching
this movie today in Kansas!
She died durring the most graphic part
of the movie.
See my post in Back Page News Forum
for more!
Gazz
Misery
Feb 26 2004, 04:07 AM

Buddy_Hongster so what country are you from that it was banned? I haven't seen it but it does look like a good movie.
stillcrazy
Feb 26 2004, 05:38 AM
Just got back from seeing it. Thought it was very good and I feel that Mel Gibson did a good Job on the reality of the crucifixion. I know many will say that there was a little too violent, but if you look at the Romans and what barbarians they really were. This is more accurate than a lot of others would like to believe. Remember the Romans made a sport out of death. As for being anti semantic, I did not see that to the degree that some jewish scholars are claiming. But it is thier right to feel that way. I do not recomend that young children see this movie. It is very bloody. I noticed many adults turning away during sertain scenes. If your a christian I would recommend that you see it.
peace
PrettyAndCorrupt
Feb 26 2004, 09:53 AM
I agree with the post above. In reality, the crucifixion was probably alot worse than it is depicted in the movie.
People need to either get over it..or not see it. Its a simple as that.
Moonfairie
Feb 26 2004, 10:52 AM
In my country, nobody wants to buy the movie ! So I can't see it ! What a shame ! I waited so long for nothing !
stillcrazy
Feb 26 2004, 05:16 PM
Forgot to mention. There is a relief built into the film from the violence. There are what you'd call flashback scenes throughout the movie that takes the viewer away from the crualty.
The film is done in Latin, with english sub-titles. Very interesting over all.
Fluffybunny
Feb 26 2004, 05:33 PM
| QUOTE (stillcrazy @ Feb 26 2004, 09:16 AM) |
| The film is done in Latin, with english sub-titles. Very interesting over all. |
I am going to have to break out the old "Berlitz Latin" course...
I look forward to seeing it, it sounds very intersting. By what I read on CNN, it sounds like the movie is pulling in 60 million dollars in just the first few days. Not too bad considering that Mel Gibson thought it was going the be an arthouse type movie.
stillcrazy
Feb 26 2004, 05:36 PM
All in all it was a good movie. But what scared me was the TV cameras outside the theater.
Nethius
Feb 26 2004, 06:58 PM
i think this movie was purposely made to cause a stir, in hopes that more people would follow the christian religion.. kind of a marketing ploy (not that there is anything wrong with that). the movie was written by Greg Laurie (pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship in Riverside)
now with that said, i have not seen the movie. so i cannot comment too greatly. but am worried that people may start taking this movie as a true actual event (we all know movies based on true stories often add things here and there)
stillcrazy
Feb 26 2004, 08:08 PM
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| we all know movies based on true stories often add things here and there) |
There was this guy in the movie, that I assume was suppose to represent the devil, hanging around throughout the movie. Then he appears with one ugly baby hang on him. I have no Fn idea what that was all about.
JLA369
Feb 26 2004, 08:42 PM
Alot of coincidences happened there
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1.the person who played the role of Jesus Christ had the initials JC!
2.He got struck by lightning while on the cross but he didn't felt anything
3.The person who had the role of Jesus Christ went up to the director to tell him that two people were whipping him but the director said that nobody whipped him
4. This is a really strange coincidence...there was an old lady that went up to him and said that he will be playing the role of Jesus(20 years before the movie even existed!)
5.People bow down to him for no reason
JLA369
Feb 26 2004, 08:43 PM
| QUOTE (stillcrazy @ Feb 26 2004, 04:36 PM) |
| All in all it was a good movie. But what scared me was the TV cameras outside the theater. |
Why did it scare you?
"Hi Mom!" or "I'm on T.V.!"
Talon
Feb 26 2004, 08:45 PM
| QUOTE |
1.the person who played the role of Jesus Christ had the initials JC! 2.He got struck by lightning while on the cross but he didn't felt anything 3.The person who had the role of Jesus Christ went up to the director to tell him that two people were whipping him but the director said that nobody whipped him 4. This is a really strange coincidence...there was an old lady that went up to him and said that he will be playing the role of Jesus(20 years before the movie even existed!) 5.People bow down to him for no reason |
All just that though coincidences... or stories to get plublicity

I doubt this guy is any second coming of Jesus Christ
stillcrazy
Feb 26 2004, 08:53 PM
| QUOTE |
Why did it scare you?
"Hi Mom!" or "I'm on T.V.!" |
My mom's been dead for years.
they were literally shoving cameras in peoples faces asking what they thought about the film
KayEl
Feb 26 2004, 08:54 PM
I haven't seen this movie....but is it true that Mel Gibson's father have something to do with it, or suggested in its making?
Because today on Howard Stern, he played an interview of the elder Gibson and this man is one big anti-semite!
stillcrazy
Feb 26 2004, 08:57 PM
| QUOTE |
| Because today on Howard Stern, he played an interview of the elder Gibson and this man is one big anti-semite! |
Please, Please lets not go there. One thread was already shut down cause of the 'S' word.

| QUOTE |
| Don't you mean the 'A' word? |
I meant the S word. Stupidity Secularism Scoff Scorn Scurrility Sectarian
Erikl
Feb 26 2004, 09:23 PM
Don't you mean the 'A' word?
Talon
Feb 26 2004, 09:28 PM
Oh, please lets not start this again
Aslan
Feb 26 2004, 09:28 PM
Stillcrazy and Erikl are right. Please let's not let this thread go the way of the other and denegrate into religious/historical/political emnity.
I understand it's hard to separate certain issues from the movie, but lets try not to detach them from context - which is Mel Gibson's film itself.
Erikl
Feb 26 2004, 09:33 PM
Talon, please read my post
here.
Talon
Feb 26 2004, 09:39 PM
i already read it
Joe013
Feb 26 2004, 11:24 PM
It was really graphic...but I think if you're a beleiver in God you should see it. I know a lot of the god worshipping people I talk to said that before they saw it, they were kinda like..."oh jesus was put on a cross. thanks. no big deal." but this movie changed their perspective cause you get to see what really happened (supposedly) and it kinda gives you a new light on things...ya know? and i dont think it was anti semidcastskasc. cant spell that word lol. and those coincidences, come on people. open up your eyes!
go see it.
cutycub
Feb 26 2004, 11:34 PM
The director could have made the fake thing (what happend to the peep who played the role in the movie) to get more people to watch it.
The Cheat
Feb 26 2004, 11:39 PM
| QUOTE (Nethius @ Feb 26 2004, 05:58 PM) |
| i think this movie was purposely made to cause a stir, in hopes that more people would follow the christian religion.. kind of a marketing ploy (not that there is anything wrong with that). |
The movie was not designed to be a religious marketing ploy. It was made to show people what Christ went through, because, as Joe013 said, there are many people that dont see the crucifixion as a big deal.
While i think this movie could cause some people to take a second look at Christianity, it's not a marketing tool. Becoming a Christian means a change in your entire life, and no movie by itself would make people sincerely give their lives to Christ. It might make them think about it, but hopefully no one would base such a huge decision on a movie.
stillcrazy
Feb 26 2004, 11:43 PM
| QUOTE |
| I know a lot of the god worshipping people I talk to said that before they saw it, they were kinda like..."oh jesus was put on a cross. thanks. no big deal." |
Joe013. This is a really good point, the fact that while most Christians know of the 39 lashes, they do not understand the barbaric nature that was the Romans at the time. The brutality portrayed, in my OPINION, was closer to the actule events than what was portrayed In JC superstar or any other movie/play to date. The Romans were not kind when it came to punishments. A whole colusium was built by the Romans for nothing more than to make a sport out of death.
Talon
Feb 27 2004, 12:03 AM
| QUOTE |
| While i think this movie could cause some people to take a second look at Christianity |
| QUOTE |
| Becoming a Christian means a change in your entire life, and no movie by itself would make people sincerely give their lives to Christ. |
Your second line was closer as I agree that I doubt anyone would convert, as for even taking a second look, I don't see why, non-christians all follow other religions or are athiests for a veriety of reasons, I doubt seeing a more horrific view of Jesus' death will really change our opinions at all.... I mean lots of people have died in horrible ways, and for causes they beleived in, one that happened 2000 years ago will not really affect more loyal to another cause.
Joe013
Feb 27 2004, 02:29 AM
yes i think this movie was a slap-in-the-face/wake up call for a lot of people. having the brutality portrayed so vividly has given people a glimpse of what really happened. many people say "oh mel gibson crossed the line" but i think he accomplished what he set out to do. i think him so accurately, if brutal, showing what happened to jesus will open up a lot of minds and a lot of hearts. even if people dont
| QUOTE |
QUOTE Becoming a Christian means a change in your entire life, and no movie by itself would make people sincerely give their lives to Christ.
Your second line was closer as I agree that I doubt anyone would convert, as for even taking a second look, I don't see why, non-christians all follow other religions or are athiests for a veriety of reasons, I doubt seeing a more horrific view of Jesus' death will really change our opinions at all.... I mean lots of people have died in horrible ways, and for causes they beleived in, one that happened 2000 years ago will not really affect more loyal to another cause. |
change their lives according to christianity to this movie, i think a lot of people will be more open minded about looking into the religion. and many died horribly...but how many have died for what they beleived was the good of every man and woman. even the ones that hate them? (probably a lot but im tired so i cant think of them lol) even if jesus was crazy, i think that he has proved himself to me just by enduring that for anybody. i mean seeing that, i wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy! it kinda just made me stop and think...i didnt talk for like an hour after the movie cause i was just kinda sitting there contemplating...but i sorta agree with talon i dont think this one movie will cause people to convert, but it i think it will open up some minds that are closed towards everything...
Dark_Grey
Feb 27 2004, 02:56 AM

Now I
really wanna see it...
Fer the Christians out there, this is a good opportunity to bring ur unsaved friends and get them really thinking about the Son of God...dont miss this good chance to witness to them!!
Myself? I wanna see it now fer curiosity's sake if anything...hey how does the brutality in it compare to that of 'Braveheart'?? Sumone let me know!
Gazz
Feb 27 2004, 03:06 AM
I keep hearing the words "Mel Gibson's movie"
Over and over in the media.... But is it
really Mel Gibson's movie?
It is his production but it is our movie
and it is a story for all of humanity.
I just watched the film, and all I can say
is it was simply amazing, and I have
never been very religous at all.
I don't think that will change my views
but I am a grown man and I have only shed
tears a few times in my adult life, the last was for the loss of my wife.
At first I looked away from the screen.
Then I could stop watching, I wont
give any details here.. but what got me
started was the open crying of all of
those around me... the horror on so many
faces, some women and men even screaming
things like "oh my god no".
I felt a tear on my own face.. as it fell
from my chin there was another and then
a flood... I gritted my teeth and made
my best tough guy face, and nothing
would stop it.. then I gave up.
I cried like a baby for about 30 seconds.
I am not looking to prove there is a God
one way or the other.. I am not a religous
man.
But I swear this is much much more than
just a movie.
Gazz
Talon
Feb 27 2004, 11:36 AM
| QUOTE |
| Fer the Christians out there, this is a good opportunity to bring ur unsaved friends and get them really thinking about the Son of God...dont miss this good chance to witness to them!! |
Your assuming that your religion is the correct one
Bangali
Mar 5 2004, 10:49 PM
Yah Watched that movie with my family...don't know why my father and I cried after watching that movie but mom and sister didn't cried

..
Its really interesting...according to bible everything looks perfect to me..I don't blame the murder to Jews we all are involved and God gaved his life for every human being not only for Jews..He knows what is RIGHT and What is WRONG...
Everyone should see this movie..I also recommended this movie to ALIENS, GHOSTS, NESSIE, CHUPACHABRA, etc..but be very careful don't freak out people...
Good Luck
KayEl
Mar 5 2004, 11:45 PM
Ha! It is ironic that all these Bible Thumpers who screamed about violence on TV and in the movies are flocking to the theaters to watch Jesus getting his ass kicked for two hours straight. I suppose some "violence" are acceptable.
Hypocrites. Know that Satan is pleased.
Kellalor
Mar 5 2004, 11:59 PM
| QUOTE (KayEl @ Mar 5 2004, 05:45 PM) |
Ha! It is ironic that all these Bible Thumpers who screamed about violence on TV and in the movies are flocking to the theaters to watch Jesus getting his ass kicked for two hours straight. I suppose some "violence" are acceptable.
|
If it's historically acurate, than yes.
It's kinda like 'Saving Private Ryan', very violent but accurately portrayed.
BTW, I'm not one of those who are screaming about violence on TV.
KayEl
Mar 6 2004, 12:07 AM
Well, violence is violence...I wonder which is worse...
One that is not real...
Or one that is suppose to simulate something that HAS happened.
The Krow
Mar 6 2004, 12:09 AM
The Movie is great...It gives me another response to the age old question:
-"Did you read the Bible?"
-"No, but I saw the movie!"
just adding some humor to a non-humorus topic...
Spartan
Mar 6 2004, 12:50 AM
Please stop all the fuss
as soon as i clicked on this post i just started crying
im not liying
i was going to say something else
But i cant stop crying
May Jesus Christ of Nazareth bless you all
Amen
Novo
Mar 6 2004, 01:16 AM
are YOU aware of how many HYPOCRITES have edited the bible?
how many generations have morphed its meaning to fit there own ends?
how many churches have altered for there own advancement?
sure jesus died but thats all we can be sure about (and the japenese even question that

)
stillcrazy
Mar 6 2004, 01:26 AM
Another thread disolved into intolerance of others beliefs.
Naveed
Mar 6 2004, 03:05 AM
*Start Rant*Honestly I found the movie appaling. Only because the amount of detail in it as far as the blood and stuff went. I know that is what really happened, but it's the idea that it is based on a true event. It's not like watching Day of the Dead and seeing people torn apart that are fictional. I approached this movie from both a religious and a movie critic side, and found it to be full of scare tactics, like the demons jumping out at you, plus the massive amount of blood. As far as a movie goes it was good, but not great unless you're a Christian who is there for the message it contains. Still I find even for a religious point it is rather appaling because the violence goes against what mainstream Christianity teaches. I also find it sick that people want to watch the founder of their religion get killed in a most horrible and gruesome way. I don't care if it was the most important event of Christianity, but it's wrong imo to watch it happen, or at least reinact it in that much detail plus put your own spin on it with Satan and the demons running around like Mel Gibson did.
*End Rant*
Spartan
Mar 6 2004, 03:11 AM
| QUOTE (Naveed @ Mar 6 2004, 02:05 AM) |
| plus put your own spin on it with Satan and the demons running around like Mel Gibson did. |
Hahahaha you just made my day
You must have never come across one...or two...lol
colorless
Mar 6 2004, 03:18 AM
Didn't two women die from heart attacks during the movie caused by the crucifixion scene?
Naveed
Mar 6 2004, 04:07 AM
I know one did, but I don't remember hearing about a second.
Diebytheflyguy
Mar 6 2004, 04:49 AM
Im going to see this movie for my religion course. I am not at all squeemsh or emotionally expressive during movies. It seems that highly religious christians have a hard time watching this movie. So i'll tell you how it is...

...P.S... IT IS JUST A MOVIE! IF IT WAS FICTIONAL WOULD YOU CARE ABOUT THE VIOLENCE AND BLOOD!
Naveed
Mar 6 2004, 05:47 AM
Actually the majority of Christians are going to see it for religious purposes, most aren't offended by the blood at all.
stillcrazy
Mar 6 2004, 05:57 AM
I found it less bloody than a Freddy or Jason movie. The film was based on the events surrounding christ death. It was not pretty. The Romans were very cruel people in many ways.
Diebytheflyguy
Mar 6 2004, 06:08 AM
All I've been reading is how bloody and grotesque this movie is. The only thing the critics have been talking about is the blood. I've been hearing of people leaving the theaters, wailing and crying because they felt "pain." I have even heard of a woman dying because of this movie.
Anything controversial and people go insane. Anything to do with "Christ," and people take offence. If this movie was about some guy named Steve Dungleberrosterson then no one would care how gory or emotional this move is. Noone would be crying or DYING in theaters.
I cant stress this enough SETTLE DOWN PEOPLE.
Xenojjin
Mar 6 2004, 06:19 AM
I saw it , and I failed to see the controversy ... especially among the christians complaining about it .
"So let me get this straight , your complaining about a film that accuratly protrays your religion because its accurate ? "
| QUOTE |
I have even heard of a woman dying because of this movie.
|
thats

got any examples of this ?
stillcrazy
Mar 6 2004, 06:20 AM
The fact that it deals with peoples religious beliefs is the reason the critics are talking about the blood and cruality. If they ever make a graphic movie about the Holocaust I would be willing to bet that there would be less commotion about the graphic violence. What Hitler and his men did to the jewish people was an outrage of such magnatude that even after seeing thousands of photo's I still can't grasp what these innocent people went through. But I think if a film was made, it wouldn't cause the stir that the Passion has. It deals with a mass of people of a faith, not a single person who is the savior to many.
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