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acidhead43
WATCH VIDEO : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8


On July 25, 2001, Alex Jones brought out OPERATION EXPOSE THE GOVERNMENT TERRORISTS on his cable-access show based out of Austin, Texas. During the episode, he stated that the World Trade Center was a likely target and that the government may use their known asset, Osama Bin Laden. He called on viewers to first research his claims, then to call the White House, Congress and other government authorities-- warn them, and let them know that if there is a terrorist attack, "we" know who the perpetrators were.


There is no denying the fact that Alex exposed the operation before day 1.
jaylemurph
QUOTE (acidhead43 @ Jun 10 2008, 03:00 PM) *
WATCH VIDEO : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGtOFudmHG8


On July 25, 2001, Alex Jones brought out OPERATION EXPOSE THE GOVERNMENT TERRORISTS on his cable-access show based out of Austin, Texas. During the episode, he stated that the World Trade Center was a likely target and that the government may use their known asset, Osama Bin Laden. He called on viewers to first research his claims, then to call the White House, Congress and other government authorities-- warn them, and let them know that if there is a terrorist attack, "we" know who the perpetrators were.


There is no denying the fact that Alex exposed the operation before day 1.


Why don't I believe Alex Jones? Because virtually every time I've seen him, he's been under-researched and un-informed -- usually announcing that fact to his camera crew and making himself look silly.

--Jaylemurph
Tiggs
Alex Jones also predicted a suitcase Nuke in Oct 2001, a Smallpox attack in 2002 etc.

If you predict enough attacks, eventually you're going to get one right. It's not as if they hadn't tried to take out the World Trade centre before. OBL was already prime suspect for any terrorist attacks way back in 98, following the US Embassy bombings, when Bill Clinton signed the executive order for his arrest or assassination.

acidhead43
QUOTE (Tiggs @ Jun 10 2008, 12:13 PM) *
Alex Jones also predicted a suitcase Nuke in Oct 2001, a Smallpox attack in 2002 etc.

If you predict enough attacks, eventually you're going to get one right. It's not as if they hadn't tried to take out the World Trade centre before. OBL was already prime suspect for any terrorist attacks way back in 98, following the US Embassy bombings, when Bill Clinton signed the executive order for his arrest or assassination.



... yeah... it was a lucky, lucky, lucky guess on Alex's part... your right... Alex should predict lottery ball numbers while he's at it.

It could hit you in the face at a speed of 500 mph and ................................................................................
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Tiggs
And where in that video does he actually say that Terrorists are going to hit the World Trade Centre again?

He doesn't. Listen to the tense he's using. He's referring to the previous attack on the World Trade Centre.

What he predicts is that OBL will perform another terrorist attack. OBL was the CIA's most wanted at the time. Hardly psychic.

Magikman
Well, see, that's the problem, you're not using the super secret CT'er decoder ring, you need that to get the 'true' meaning. thumbsup.gif
acidhead43
you're already in denial so i'll just repeat what i've heard.


The government official stance is " that they never could of predicted that terrorists would use aircraft as weapons and fly them into buildings".. correct?... it's been repeated many times.


Then there is Alex Jones who in the taped video from July 2001 clearly says that OBL will be blamed for another terrorist attack

in the USA using airplanes as weapons... using airplanes as weapons.

Interesting how Alex knew the attacks would probably involve airplanes... how did he know this?


It came from government documents which are available for YOU to read online.

Operation Northwoods http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Magikman
QUOTE (acidhead43 @ Jun 10 2008, 08:42 PM) *
you're already in denial so i'll just repeat what i've heard.


The government official stance is " that they never could of predicted that terrorists would use aircraft as weapons and fly them into buildings".. correct?... it's been repeated many times.


Who's in denial, hell, I just saw a program on the history channel a couple weeks ago that stated the US government was well aware of the possibility of terrorists using aircraft as weapons well before 9-11. If the US is guilty of anything it was the inability of their intelligence community to work together and share pertinent information in a timely and responsible manner, that's unforgivable.

The rest of it is just sensationalistic BS, like your title. yes.gif
louie
It was also predicted in the spin off tv show the smoking gun, from the xfiles, so maybe jones is on to something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIZ205ccX8M
acidhead43
QUOTE (Magikman @ Jun 10 2008, 12:56 PM) *
Who's in denial, hell, I just saw a program on the history channel a couple weeks ago that stated the US government was well aware of the possibility of terrorists using aircraft as weapons well before 9-11. If the US is guilty of anything it was the inability of their intelligence community to work together and share pertinent information in a timely and responsible manner, that's unforgivable.

The rest of it is just sensationalistic BS, like your title. yes.gif



thanks.. you make a great moderator.
Magikman
It's my own personal opinion, nothing to do with my being a moderator. Direct and to the point, your title is spurious, mis-leading and sensationalistic.

If I was employing my role as a moderator, I could shut this down for being totally false, what do you prefer I do?
acidhead43
QUOTE (Magikman @ Jun 10 2008, 01:05 PM) *
It's my own personal opinion, nothing to do with my being a moderator. Direct and to the point, your title is spurious, mis-leading and sensationalistic.

If I was employing my role as a moderator, I could shut this down for being totally false, what do you prefer I do?



Should the title say".. lucky guess.." to suit your opinion ?

BTW you're threatening me now with censoring thread because it differs from your own opinion?

Never mind that you consider this TOTALLY FALSE.. is it not in the CONSPIRACY SECTION?

.. weird.......

Magikman
Like Tiggs mentioned, he 'predicted' OBL would perform a terrorist attack period, hardly a stroke of pure genius.

no, acidhead, I'm not 'threatening' anything. If I wanted to shut this down I would have done it when you originally posted it to the current events section, I moved it to the 'conspiracy' section, because that's where it belongs. Just like Alex Jones you only see what 'you' want to see, don't you?
acidhead43
QUOTE (Magikman @ Jun 10 2008, 01:16 PM) *
Like Tiggs mentioned, he 'predicted' OBL would perform a terrorist attack period, hardly a stroke of pure genius.



watch/listen to it again.. terrorists, WTC, OBL, airplanes....
Tiggs
QUOTE (acidhead43 @ Jun 10 2008, 08:42 PM) *
you're already in denial so i'll just repeat what i've heard.


The government official stance is " that they never could of predicted that terrorists would use aircraft as weapons and fly them into buildings".. correct?... it's been repeated many times.


Then there is Alex Jones who in the taped video from July 2001 clearly says that OBL will be blamed for another terrorist attack

in the USA using airplanes as weapons... using airplanes as weapons.

Interesting how Alex knew the attacks would probably involve airplanes... how did he know this?


It came from government documents which are available for YOU to read online.

Operation Northwoods http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Au Contraire. I've made several posts on 9/11 on this board, in support of the Government having foreknowledge of the attacks. I'm also aware of Operation Northwoods, having bought it up myself a few years ago.

However - in this case - Alex Jones doesn't say what you're claiming he said.

He says "we know the Joint Chiefs of Staff wanted to blow up airliners - Baltimore Sun"

Note the word, wanted. Past tense. It's just another example he lists of what he believes to be Government terrorism, along with the original World Trade Centre attack and Oklahoma city, not a prediction.
jaylemurph
QUOTE (acidhead43 @ Jun 10 2008, 04:09 PM) *
Should the title say".. lucky guess.." to suit your opinion ?

BTW you're threatening me now with censoring thread because it differs from your own opinion?

Never mind that you consider this TOTALLY FALSE.. is it not in the CONSPIRACY SECTION?

.. weird.......


Acid -- I've actually had Majik edit things from my posts with no warning, stuff I'd rather he kept there, but it's not censorship. I didn't get upset, nor should you: you agreed to let him and the other mods do so /at their discretion/ when you agreed to the TOS. Complaining about that now seems a little disingenuous.

--Jaylemurph
Magikman
I am now officially using my 'mod' status to make the following request, everyone will focus on discussing the topic at hand, moderator actions are not relevant to the on-going thread. Thank you for your co-operation.
acidhead43
QUOTE (Magikman @ Jun 10 2008, 01:32 PM) *
I am now officially using my 'mod' status to make the following request, everyone will focus on discussing the topic at hand, moderator actions are not relevant to the on-going thread. Thank you for your co-operation.



..no problem.. have a good day

bye.
Left Field
Forget Alex Jones, this guy (Michael Riconosciuto) knew of the attacks in February of 2001, yet people don't seem to care about that either. He comments about an Arabic group known as "The Base" and their operation pertaining to fake ID's and passports and their plans for a major attack within the U.S. in this letter he wrote to his attorney in early February of 2001. For some reason, the FBI didn't find him credible, but what do you know, 8 months after this letter was written 9/11 happens. How this doesn't outrage people is beyond me.
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This is Michael Riconosciuto's letter written to his attorney containing information mentioned about terrorists' planned attacks on the United States which occurred on Sept. 11, 2001.

Take notice of the date this letter was written, Feb. 5, 2001, and mailed Feb 6, 2001 - months before the attacks happened.

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Proof of when it was mailed:
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Q24
If this thread is to identify individuals who predicted or had prior knowledge of the attacks, I am going to give star prize to the Bush Administration. On August 6th 2001, just over a month before the 9/11 attacks, a presidential brief landed on George W Bush’s desk. The title of that brief: -

Bin Laden Determined To Strike in US
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB...pdb8-6-2001.pdf
(declassified 10 April 2004)

Some excerpts from the brief: -

“Bin Laden since 1997 has wanted to carry out terrorist attacks in the US”
“his followers would follow the example of World Trade Centre bomber Ramzi Yousef”
“Bin Laden told followers he wanted to retaliate in Washington”
“Bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative’s access to the US”
“Bin Ladin wanted to hijack a US aircraft”
“FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings”

Sure the details are not specific, but what would YOU do with that information? Step up investigations of Bin Laden related cases? Share all Al Qaeda related intelligence between the FBI, CIA and Military? Tighten surveillance of suspect foreign nationals? Increase airport and airliner security?

And what did THEY do with that information? Ab-so-lute-ly nothing.
Left Field
And yet certain people will still dismiss this information as if it is of zero significance.
NWDissorder
all predictions are usually vague and if they weren't then the very prediction would effect whether or not the event actually does or doesn't happen (if you were to give exact dates and times in a prediction than it could either be carried out and realised because someone heard the prediction or it could be completely avoided and the prediction might not come true for the plain and simple reason that is was predicted) I don't think I did a good job of explaining myself there but its just a weird thought I had

besides that I think that all this Talk of OBL is lame he was trained by the CIA and the way I see it the US government perpetrated the 9/11 attacks on their own people in order to point the finger and start a war (instead of arguing over whether or not what Alex Jones said was a prediction or if it wasn't why don't we discuss how the current Government is lying and misleading the general population)
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