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Northwoods Documents incase no one has ever read them. I know, nay-sayers will say this never happened, but the simple fact that it was even thought of, is pretty sad.
As CJCS, he was relieved of duty shortly after submitting this report. Kennedy was not impressed with this "proposal".
Nonetheless, it was proposed by a member of the government. Had it not been, people would tell you how thoughts such as these would never run through the minds of those placed in such positions.
Even with this, there are still people who would, and will still, continue to deny such a thing and laugh at and belittle those who contend it is a possibility the government would resort to such tactics.
Even with this, there are still people who would, and will still, continue to deny such a thing and laugh at and belittle those who contend it is a possibility the government would resort to such tactics.
There is a very big difference between "proposing" something and "resorting to" it.
That has nothing to do with my previous post. I never claimed they were the same thing.
Boggles my mind though what a free pass people give the government for everything they do.
How bout this one then, something they actually did do and admit to doing, MK-Ultra.... you care about that? Do you think it was a big deal for them to take innocent civilians and destroy their brains and memories all for the purpose of doing mind control experimients?
People don't seem to talk much about that and would rather down play just how messed up it is for the government to have done that to its own people.
We won't talk about that though, will we...
Boggles my mind though what a free pass people give the government for everything they do.
How bout this one then, something they actually did do and admit to doing, MK-Ultra.... you care about that? Do you think it was a big deal for them to take innocent civilians and destroy their brains and memories all for the purpose of doing mind control experimients?
People don't seem to talk much about that and would rather down play just how messed up it is for the government to have done that to its own people.
We won't talk about that though, will we...
QUOTE (mrbusdriver @ Jun 13 2008, 06:17 AM) 
As CJCS, he was relieved of duty shortly after submitting this report. Kennedy was not impressed with this "proposal".
And was approved by ALL of the joint chiefs.
"The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662
Just because Kennedy was for the people and said no doesn't mean other president's would say no if another operation like this was brought up
QUOTE (mrbusdriver @ Jun 13 2008, 04:03 PM)
There is a very big difference between "proposing" something and "resorting to" it.
Proposed...your right, all it needed was approval from Kennedy and it would have happened.
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And was approved by ALL of the joint chiefs.
"The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years."
Just because Kennedy was for the people and said no doesn't mean other president's would say no if another operation like this was brought up.
"The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years."
Just because Kennedy was for the people and said no doesn't mean other president's would say no if another operation like this was brought up.
Exactly.
And hell, we all know what happened to JFK, don't we...
On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being the secret emplacement of Soviet SS-4 and SS-5 nuclear MRBMs across Cuba, I would rate the NorthWoods proposal somewhere next to Bo Peep.
To scatter plane debris in the water, as an excuse to give the Castro brothers the boot, does not sound like a such bad idea. However, wounding some innocents does raise the question of means to an end, and justification.
Those were scary times, evidently. People simply became numbers in megatonage blast calculations. Surviving some insane leader's final Hail Mary required a lot of efforts. Including, taking on the Castro brothers.
To scatter plane debris in the water, as an excuse to give the Castro brothers the boot, does not sound like a such bad idea. However, wounding some innocents does raise the question of means to an end, and justification.
Those were scary times, evidently. People simply became numbers in megatonage blast calculations. Surviving some insane leader's final Hail Mary required a lot of efforts. Including, taking on the Castro brothers.
It makes me wonder what other kinda documents there are like this that haven't been declassfied.
QUOTE (chadster @ Jun 15 2008, 01:06 PM)
It makes me wonder what other kinda documents there are like this that haven't been declassfied.
Oh come on, what would make you think we don't know about all of it, or that this clearly is just a one time thing...
(sarcasm... but you know the comment above is what others would wish to tell you)
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