TURLOCK, Calif. - Police killed a 27-year-old man as he kicked, punched and stomped a toddler to death despite other people's attempts to stop him on a dark, country road, authorities said.

Investigators on Sunday were trying to establish the relationship between the suspect and the child they say he killed Saturday night. The Stanislaus County coroner said the boy appeared to be between 1 and 2 years old based on his size, according to county sheriff's deputy Royjindar Singh.

"It's been a long night of wondering, 'Why?' — not only for the officers and the passers-by who stopped and tried to help out, but for anyone. Why would somebody do this?" Singh said.

Singh said the coroner does not plan to confirm the identities of the suspect and victim until Monday. Because his injuries were so severe, the child will have to be identified through a blood or DNA test, he said.

The suspect had a child's car seat in the back of his four-door pickup truck. The truck caught the attention of an elderly couple at 10:13 p.m. Saturday because it was stopped in the two-lane road facing the wrong direction, Singh said.

Man pushed off efforts to stop him
As they got closer, the couple saw the man brutally beating the toddler behind his truck and throwing the child on the ground, according to Singh. Two or three other cars stopped, an unusual number to be passing through the remote area surrounded by a dairy, a cow pasture, a cornfield and a farmhouse, he said.

"What we got from witnesses is he was punching, slapping, kicking, stomping, shaking," Singh said. "They tried to intervene and get involved, but their efforts really didn't have an effect. The suspect was engaged in what he was doing. He just pushed them off and went back to it."

A sheriff's helicopter responding to emergency calls from the area landed in a cow pasture at 10:19 p.m. carrying a Modesto police officer who shot the man to death after he refused an order to stop beating the child, Singh said.

Paramedics tried to resuscitate the toddler, who was not breathing when they arrived. The boy was taken to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

No children within the dead boy's age range have been reported kidnapped or missing in Stanislaus County, Singh said.

The incident happened on Bradbury Road about 10 miles west of Turlock, a city located about halfway between Sacramento and Fresno.


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There is no punishment this guy doesn't deserve.

Good

the sad thing is --- this happens sooo often world wide.

1 child abuser down, too many to go.

Edit: BTW they should give the officer a medal.

Now thats justice.

Yeah? Watch that cop get brought on some kind of jackass charges

I AGREE, what kind of animal would beat a baby to death?? Glad hes off the streets..JN

The passers by shoulda done more.. if he was able to "shrug them off" it either means he was abnormally strong and superpowered or they stopped after "trying to talk him down"..

Not guilty by reason of temporary insanity. I hope I'm on the jury.

I don't think the cop will get hit with anything. He did what he was trained to do, and tried to save a young child's life, although it was too late. I would be very enraged if I found out they slapped a charge on him.

I am permitted to carry a weapon, I do carry a pistol in my truck. I am wondering if I happened on this scene and had shot this monster would I be facing charges? I pray for this little one and for those who loved him. With the use of one, I am assuming 9mm round, this officer saved to county untold amounts of money and time. Not to mention the time and mental anguish for the 12 jurors who would have to sit and listen to some defense attorney try and get this monster off. Like someone wrote in an earlier post, 1 down and many more to go.

Why didn't he just shoot his leg? or arm if it's possible

Officers are trained to shoot center mass. Shooting in the leg or arm is only in the movies. Why spare this monster by shooting in the leg or arm, if it were possible? So that we can spend an excess amount of money to find him guilty and house him in a prison for the rest of his natural life. Paying for his medical care, clothes, shelter etc. etc. I for one do not like my tax dollars spent to house "men" such as these. The officer in question saved the tax payers of California a huge amount of money for the low cost of a 9mm cartridge, give him a medal.

A arm or leg wound can kill you too. And like TWP said. They are trianed to shot center mass. Besides best way to stop a threat is to take the threat out.

Another horrific crime committed by a complete loser! I'm glad they shot the b******! Although I hear that prison isn't the place you want to be if you are a child abuser or killer. I'm sure the convicts would've made him pay in their own way, but Like other's have said, now we, as tax-payers, don't have to support this piece of scum! You go Police Officer! I hope he isn't brought up on any charges.

OMG! Why would the man beat a little child like that, the baby was helpless! I hope that officer shot that A-hole more than once!

Or both kneecaps then both arms

Are you all kidding me,,this guy got off easy..shot dead,,whers the punishment in that. If i was the cop i would have broken both his legs then set him on fire.

I agree he should have went to prison where the inmates could torture him daily! death was just an escape.

Always a pleasure

It would be hard to do anything else. The officer did not know if this sick person had killed the baby. I know if I had a gun in my hand and someone was doing that in front of me, I would not be able to do anything other than what the good policeman did.

The man had apparently said something about "demons" being in the child to the officer.

It's local news here. I read that bit of information in the paper this morning.

What a horrible event and individual that could do that.

Do you happen to have a source for this? I would be interested in reading it.

Sure do:

The Modesto Bee

The news story is right there with a link to a short article that is different than the one in this morning's paper. The online article, from what I quickly scanned over, does not mention the "demons" aspect, but there are some links to related, earlier articles that might mention it.

I did just check the paper--the man did say "demons" were in the boy. Not much more was given in that regard, only the article speculating whether the man was mentally ill or on drugs.

Needless to say, it's a horrible and sad story. I was shocked when I read it this morning.

Great article, thank you. That is the most detailed article of the incident that I have seen yet. I just read an article in my local newspaper that said the guy "had a 'total hollowness in his eyes.'" but they didn't even mention the "demons" that yours talked about. I also find it very interesting that the only round to strike the man was in the forehead, not his torso.

OHHhhhh A headshot. Even better.

I think if I would have witnessed something like that, the man would have been too occupied with trying to pry my teeth off of his throat to beat anyone. . .I would have ended up in jail (or dead, if he happened to turn the beating on me) happily if it would have meant saving the poor child. You guys are right, the police officer deserves a medal. I can't see any jury listening to that story and finding him guilty of anything other than removing scum off the earth.

Most inmates do not take kindly to child molestors and abusers. . .a my boyfriends best friend went to prison, and he said "that type" of prisoner would have to be separated from the rest because of the attacks on them.

I can't understand this type of horror. Even after years of having known individuals with severe delusions brought on by untreated schizophrenia, or people with tragic drug addictions I've never come across anyone who would even think of doing such a thing to a child.

I was tempted to go on a rant about the idiotic belief in demons, but I came to the conclusion that, if not demons, the sick POS would have blamed something else.

The way I feel, torturing the SOB to death would have been too good for him.

Horrors like this happen every day all around the world. Who the **** are we to dare call the human race civilized, let alone enlightened?

Damn that SOB. Drugged, mentally ill, or just a religious fanatic he and all others like him disgust me to know that we're from the same species.

It's no real consolation, but at least that poor child won't be brought up by a SOB like his father.

And even after I've expressed my disgust against violence, I'm glad the officer shot the ****er dead.

I have heard the same thing. I know it would have wasted taxpayer's dollars to put in him prison and keep him fed, but I wish he would have been arrested just so he could get his in prison.

Thanks for the article in the Modesto Bee. Answers will probably be very hard to get now that the a-hole is dead. It's just an unimaginable thing to me. My mind doesn't even go in that direction. I've never even spanked my kids! That poor child. I hope the mother and the other family members get some sortof closure to this tragedy. I still think that perhaps a little time behind bars would've been alright for this loser too. Let the inmates have their fun with him--now that would have been justice!

True, but if they did like they did in the prison the guy I know went to, they would have just seperated him from the other prisoners, so he wouldn't have gotten the crap beaten out of him like he deserved. Maybe a few times, but not nearly what he deserved.

I totally agree, theres no way someone could'nt of restrained him or pulled him off or hit him. I would of used every ounce of strength.

I would've done everything in my power to get that creep away from that poor little boy! One swift kick between the legs would've done the trick--unless he was on some sortof super drug. Have they done an autopsy on him to figure out what was in his system? I"d be really surprised if his blood results were clean.

I was thinking the same thing. If it took a bullet to the head to get him to stop, I'm guessing serious drugs were involved. It reminds me of that Cops episode where the naked guy in the barber shop is on PCP and it look, like 6 officers to hold him down and he was still able to push them off and run around. From what I hear, PCP makes you invincible almost.

That was my thought; he would've had to fight with me to get me off of him.

yeah,you may be right. Years ago my Uncle Tom ran a Torres restaurant up in Milwaukee. They had this guy come in.Well he started to give Uncle Tom and everyone in the place a hard time,so he called the cops.They came in and were struggling with him,trying to get him out the door.my dad was there and offered to help,but they said naugh they were okay.Finally they got him out the door.They tried to get him in the paddy wagon and he managed to break free,but they were able to get ahold of him. They kept trying to get him in,but no luck until they had the guy in a hold, and whanged his head into the side of the paddywagon.This stunned him, and they finally were able to get him in and take him to jail.

Daddy said the cops that grabbed this guy stopped by for lunch a few days later. They told them that this guy had been hopped up on drugs,higher than a kite.I don't recall if daddy said what the drug was.This happend back in the 1940s,right after my dad came back from the war., so it wasn't PCP or LSD,so it was i guess cocaine or heroin.

Thank you for the link Ourmoonlitsun.

Anyone see the comment by imtheprincess????




Surely I have misinterpreted? Can anyone clarify? This person could not possibly be trying to explain the actions of this individual or offering any type of sympathy?

Surely not? There is no way to see this mans actions as anything but despicable disgusting deplorable...

I would say that the blame was placed on the right person. imtheprincess must have a couple screws loose. What a strange comment for such a horrific event.

Im one of those people who believes in capital punishment for crimes resulting in the death or rape of a person. SO i think that the police officer was right in killing this son of a gun. Think about it people, this guy beat the living crap out of a defenceless child and actually killed him or her. I know if someone did that to my kid the guy would be dead too. I give full support to this officer.

This happens.
Sometimes people make sacrifices and throw their lives away for the sake of justice.

I recall the story of an elderly man who killed a teenager that was taunting him repeatedly. This was apparently a kid who had no firm parental supervision and got into trouble fairly often. When he learned that the old man was bothered by his antics, he gleefully kept them up. Nothing he did was ever arrestable. Usually, he'd just walk across the man's lawn, simply stand there, or maybe throw a little trash when he wasn't looking. But the harassment and taunting was almost constant, and the police couldn't help the old man at all.

Finally, the man had enough. When he saw the kid standing on his lawn one last time, the elderly man got his gun, went out and shot him dead.

Though sentenced, I don't think the elderly man served any hard time due to his age. If he's still living, I don't think he's been bothered with trespassers either.

Here is whats pathetic...

"Modesto police officer who shot the man to death after he refused an order to stop beating the child, Singh said."


Pay attention to what is being said there:

The cops PRIMARY concern was the rights of THE ASSAILANT

The ASSAILANT got a verbal warning BEFORE the cops did ANYTHING...

What about the RIGHTS OF THE CHILD that the COP WAS WATCHING BEING BEATEN TO DEATH??????

So, anyone who thinks there cops are there to "protect" you....forget it.

They WILL arrest the guy they SEE KILLING YOU, but thats usually all..

And that AFTER they've warned him, and given him his rights.

So I am to assume you have not been on our planet lately. Of course the assailant has rights just ask any bleeding heart liberal. So it is ingrained into our law enforcement officers to shout just such a warning. Ask any officer what happens if they fail to do exactly what the liberal butt heads demand they do with regards to an alleged perpetrator. Now I was not there but I am also not bound by the training our law enforcement must abide by. Having said that I do believe that I would have pulled my .44 magnum and shot the monster dead. Rather be judged by 12 than allow this innocent child to be carried by 6. I do not find fault in the actions of this officer as described in the articles provided.

I don't see how anyone could not have put a stop to it before cops showed up are people really that unsure of what to do in a situation like that or just so weak minded and scared to stand up and do something the guy would have been dead by the time the cops got to the scene if i had been there and i would gladly spend my life in prison knowing i did the right thing i don't say it often but i like the cop who killed this punk.

At least the offender was shot! That's just horrible!

mmm...its very sad when stuff like this happens to kids.

but im glad that A-hole is gone, one less criminal.

I'm with Sweetsalem I would do anything I have a hate for this sort of thing that I cant sleep at night just thinking about these poor helpless children. I will go to jail for killing this evil b******...no problem. It will be served well just knowing he would never hurt or torture another child.

This is so awful..... It reminds me of the other story we had on here, where a stepfather beat a 3 yr old girl to death for 45 minutes......Apparently her mother stood there watching, I'm sure absolutely frozen with fear.......The guy was high on a mixture of drugs, so I think this is what gives them the super-human strength.....

I think the article said that he was pushing the passerbys off him and continuing the beating.....So, they probably did try to physically restrain him but if he was on drugs, it wouldn't have made a difference....Shooting him was the only way and the cop acted accordingly and within protocol......It's a shame the cop didn't arrive in time to save the boy.....

My heart goes out to his mother and family.....

i think this policeman ought to plead insanity,and the judge sentence him to psychological help and 2 years probation with no jail time.

The police officer? Why would you want to charge the officer?

Yeah, I'm a little confused by that post as well. I'm guessing the post was an attempt at some sort of joke.

Around here, no one is questioning the officer's actions. Why would they?

1. The police officer is required to order the offender to stop their actions prior to any use of deadly force. To do otherwise would have cost him his job. He performed his job correctly and took out a useless waste of oxygen who had no right to walk the face of this planet.

2. This man was obviously on drugs at the time of the attack. There is a huge amount of methamphetamine abuse in that area, so I suspect that was his drug of choice. Chronic meth abuse can cause psychotic behavior, paranoia, hallucinations, and out of control rages that can lead to extreme violence. I have personally watched a man (the now incarcerated addict brother of a good friend) who after a particularly nasty meth smoking binge, destroyed almost the entire contents of a house, punched through walls with his hands and head, and ranted about voices and "people in the trees" who were coming for him. When the cops (finally) showed up to get him, they were unable to take him down. It took 5 officers with 2 tazers to gain control of him. There is no way that the witnesses could have stopped a man in that state without a firearm. They could have tried, beat him over the head...wouldn't have made a bit of difference. Anyone questioning whether meth is the worst drug known to man, has never seen a meth addict on a rampage.

3. It is easy for all of us to say what we would have done if we were the ones witnessing the attack. Of course we all would have tried to help, but there has been much criticism (not so much here, but in other forums) of the witnesses for not doing "enough". Truth is, in that man's state of mind, I doubt anything short of lethal force would have stopped him, so I am inclined to give the observers a break. Unless one of them had a firearm and chose not to use it, there is nothing any of them could have done.