I've been doing a lot of research into the 2012 end of times theories. Some of them are quite convincing but really do lack any hard evidence other than that of theory. According to the first human civilisation, the sumerians, the end of times are supposed to occur in 2012, the same was set in the egyptian calendar, the mayans, and bible code. I myself first heard of this theory as a freshman in high school. I was watching a video on the mayans in history and it said that their calendar says the end of time will occur in 2012. At first this had given me a bit of a shock, but I quickly forgat it. I recall back in 1998 coming home from school and my sister saying something to the effect of that it supposedly was the day the end of the world was supposed to occur. I'm just curious as to what anyone else has to say and if they have any research that I may be interested in looking at?

I don't put much stock in the end of the world predictions . I wouldn't want to be getting prepared for the End days in 2012 only to discover the Mayans where a year out in there calculations and I was actually a year behind schedule . That could be a might embarrasing couldn't it ...?

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I can't say I put much stock in them either, I generally research the subject to better understand the civilisations that made the predictions.

The only sure shot way to know if they were right is to wait it out. I wouldnt do anything to "prepare" for it though, if deaths coming for you theres really not too much you can do. Many people have said that life would end at a certain time, and they have been wrong. Lets hope that they are wrong again. I will be looking forward to the future with excitement instead of fear.

I agree.

There been lots of doomsday prediction and none of them ever happen so i believe 2012 it wont happen it (i hope) 2012 might be WW3 but you probably wont be able to kill everyone there is unless the planet cant sustain any life anymore.

I don't really think that WW3 would lead to world destruction. The use of any weapons of mass destruction by any side would quickly end that countries defeat, being that the entire world would likely unite against them shortly after.

I'am sure that I heared it wasn't the end of time arriving at 2012 but the end of an age and the begining of a new one, the new age is said to be that of aquarias (sp?) and will start with a big event, and a lot of suffering.

The "end of time" I think is supposed to be like you said the end of an age, and the beginning of a new age where time, as we know it, becomes irrelevent.

mayas say that 2012 is the year of the transition, the end of the cicle and the start of another cycle.
earth will pass trough the transition too, we can notice this: earth poles are changing, 'time' is shorter, it is fast, natural disasters across the world and much more events are coming.
i saw in a lot of sites that we will pass trough a dimensional gate (we are in the third dimension and will pass to 4th dimension) and only 1/3 of world population will survive until 2012

A few months ago I had the weirdest dream ever and the dream was a 'prediction' of the end of the world in 2012. Freaked me out to no end. I don't know that I believe it, but this is what the dream was like:
In the dream I was in my house and I heard yelling and screams coming from outside. I walked out there and at the end of my street I saw a priest hanging over the side of an interstate overpass. There was a crowd of people standing under him and they were angry. They were yelling and screaming and throwing things at the priest. I ran back towards my house and I saw my neighbor. I asked him what was going on and he said. "it's the end of the world." I ran into my house and picked up the phone to try to call my best friend. When I picked up the phone a voice said "12". At that point I was just annoyed that I couldn't make the call. I hung up the phone, picked it up again and a voice said 20 something (I don't remember the exact number). Again...I was annoyed, picked up the phone again and the voice said "2012." I still didn't think anything of it and hung up the phone.
Then I heard a great rumbling sound and a huge wave came crashing on the house. I ran towards the back of the house and then fire came sweeping through. I felt myself being burned up and die.
Then I woke up. As soon as I woke up I realized those numbers must have been a date for the end of the world. So that would be December 20 something 2012. Like I said, I don't know that I believe it. What I can say is I have never had such a vivid dream in my life. I'm not sure if I heard about all the 2012 stuff before the dream, but the next day when I mentioned it to my friend he said that's when the Maya predicted the world would end and I didn't remember it at the time. Weirdness.

I read something that was to do with Mayas and it mentioned that they predicted the end of the world because a certain cycle in their calendar was coming to an end. A massive tidal wave was supposed to destroy nearly everything on the land supposedly.Basically every civilisation predicts the end of the world at some time and none have been right yet.......that we know of.......atlantians.....lol.
We wont know until december 2012, I think I read that it was supposed to happen on the 12th.Anyway I don`t think we need to worry lets just live our lives.

I will go and read that book again and find out more.......

Well we've got a few years left to wait yet.

The world has been ending ever since it began...

in 1999 lots of people decided that the end of the world was coming, or the millenium bug was going to destroy us all. One family from London gave up their jobs and homes and moved to a remote farmhouse in Wales so they could live off the land. Bet they feel silly now

I think these predictions are interesting but there's no point taking them seriously.

Also, I'm not sure what "the end of the world as we know it" means? After all, there must have been lots of times in History whan the nature of our existence changed...

the jehovah's witnesses first said the world would end in 1914. when this didn't happen they said they must have made a mistake and that it was actually 1925 when the world would end. once again proved wrong, they just conceded and said "the world will end when it damn well pleases,"...in so many words of course

I don't believe in Jehovah's Witnesses.

I'm not going to let it happen...Well not as long as I am alive anyway.
Vimjams

Umm... whats excatly supposed to kill us all in 2015???

If the world ends, then whats the big woop? why do you people fear death? Either it all ends,or we move on to a higher plane .. if you bet on one or the other theres no way to lose

i dont beleve all that "the world's gonna end" crud. i read once that the world was gonna end tomorrow, did it? i dunno tomorrow isn't here yet... but any way thats all B.S.

I always wondered about these end of world predictions from ancient civilizations, funny they never saw the end of their civilization coming not even a "Hey Look there's Cortes!"

Oh, I forgot to add global warming, global freezing, the ice caps melting, massive numbers of volcanos errupting, enormous earthquakes...

They use the "end of the world" stuff to scare people. Look at the Millenium Bug drama, lol and how many people thought they were going to die. Look at the Cold War and how many people thought WW3 and nuclear war was going to kill us all. Look at the BBC and it's Horizon doomsday programmes

yeah i've read a lot of books on the end of the world. but yeah i'm not sure if i beleive it. who know's man it'll end when it's time to end. i just have one question. as the 2012 thing is basically the biggest doomsday prophecy goin around, what if its not true? what do you think will become the biggest one? 2058? the year mcdonalds goes outta buisness? that would be the end of the world for people who eat a lot. lol ahhahahaha

one way or another, i feel pretty certain that the end of the world will happen during my lifetime. not sure where this assurance came from, it just seems infallible to me. when it does (it it does) personally, i won't be particularly heartbroken. in an odd way, it's kind of a comforting thought.

The reason why the Mayans saw it as the "end of the cycle" is because that year, Venus will make its second twin pass in the same exact position it did the year they saw their civilization as "created". At least according to what research I've seen. (And no, the Venus passage is in June, not on December 21st).

Like others, I see it not as an end of the world, but an end of a cycle and the beginning of a new one. An interesting read on that is here.

One of the arguments I hear against it being a cycle is that people assume that starting a new cycle means some instantaneous awareness of change. I disagree. I think that year (not necessarily that date) will be something we will look back on decades and centuries after, and say to ourselves, "That's when our world really changed". Just like you can divide history into eras, I think 2012 will be a mark of a new era for the future histories of our time.

i hope so, cause the world is definitely a messed up place right now. (cough middle east cough)

Hey Stric, This is another civilisation Theory of yours.
I like the way you think.

Anyway, according to the Calender of Dragunai Earth will die the same day as me. Cause you can't have a world without a Dragunai, lol.

If this is true though then i had better start working harder at my BTEC in order to get my Company up sooner so I can get more money and die rich.

Thanks for the heads up.

Dragunai

huh? im confused...

first post here...
well i don't think the end of the world will be a tidal wave or a meteor, but it's possible something... special occurs decmber 2012...
i think it'll be a sort of 9-11, or WW3, something like that... which would totally change our minds, our vision of the universe, or of the humanity.
maybe it'll only be a "new cycle", like you said, and it will be good... and maybe not.

but what's strange is that if there should have been a sort of predicted "end of the world", or more "end of the humanity", i don't understand why WW2 doesn't seem to be a moment antics civilisations had foresaw... this were a real cycle-breaking, weren't it ?

or maybe i'm completely wrong...

i say we just start another doomsday cult. who's with me? we can all buy matching jogging suits and wear sandals all year! we'll eat nothing but corndogs and ham and drink nothing but coffee, colt malt liquor, and the stuff at the bottom of fast food greasetraps!

heh...if we don't make it to the day we say is the end of the world, we'll all die from heart complications or other things anyway...

tee hee! just an idea

I'd join you but I don't really like Ham....How about if you substitute Fried Dough for Ham? Then you've got yourself a convert!!

Welcome to the forum Marien...it's always good to get new members.
and as for the doomsday idea, i think well all blow ourselves back to the stone age, which could end the era....that would be good, right?? it would be for me shoot.

exchange ham for fried dough you say? hmmm....sure. fried dough, fried twinkies, or just whatever will fit in the industrial size frier that we will save up for.

December 26th 2012...last day on the Mayan calendar

The Mayans just couldn't see past Christmas, is all. They were really, really hoping to get a Power Wheels army jeep that year.

where did you find out the date of the end of the mayan calendar? and its cause the aliens told them not to make an appointment...they have a plane to catch to go to mars at 2:30

Current data indicates that the date December 21st, 2012 A.D.
(13.0.0.0.0 in the Mayan Long Count), represents an extremely close conjunction
of the Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator
of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic (path of the Sun). The ancient Maya recognized such
events as the Sacred Tree. This is an event that has been coming to resonance very slowly
over thousands and thousands of years. This arrangement will come to precise resolution at
exactly 11 a.m. GMT, December 21, 2012.

WERE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!

i think after this alignment , there will be a environmental change throught out the entire globe. i think may be another ice age . i have heard after 2012 time will not be a factor . it happens only in spiritual world where time is not a factor to them . so if this happens then can anyone give me some light over this topic.

Certainly Arijit,
As far as I am lead to believe the earth is allready in the begining stages of an Ice-age . So there is substantal reason to doubt that the date Dec 12 2012 will change or alter that very much .

I wonder why everyone thinks that the Mayan 2012 date means death and destruction, how do we know that it isn't a point in time in which we start a new era, something good and positive.

For if mankind survives till 2012 he will then embark on a new journey with new wisdom and a new outlook on his place in the universe.

Maybe the only death that will occur in 2012 is the death of our dark side, indeed the death of our ignorance and the birth of understanding.

Or maybe the calender ended in 2012 because Pizzaro got to the Mayans before they could finish it?

I agree with the last two people who posted cuz i dont think we will all die just like the Y2K scare tried to make us think. Who said the world will end on 2012? Did mayans have good enough technology to tell us the world ended then? NO!!!

Actually they did have some superior knowlege of some kind.

See when they made the calender they made allowances for the Earth's movement through space, the Earth hits potholes in space wich causes it to raise or lower which affects time(or how we record it anyhow). This is called the Obliquity of the Ecliptic.

Many people believe that alot of what the Maya knew was given to them from another race, the Maya say this too. Their sciences especially their math seems out of place in their culture.

They say a white man came and gave them math, and rules of civilization which promted them to stop human scacrifice. His name was Quetzalcoatl.

It is also rumored that this is why the Spanish were able to invade them so easily because of their lighter skin and beards the Maya thought they were the returning Quetzalcoatl so they walked right in, enslaved them destroied their historical records and tried to convert them to Christianity. And now the true events of the Mayan past are shrouded in fragmented mystery.

Maybe they saw it in their crystal ball. Whoops, my mistake, I mean crystal skull!