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JonnyC
Friends and fellow researchers, what, in your opinions, resides within the Sphinx?

This subject keeps coming up and I'd be very interested to know of any findings that your enquiries have turned up.


Qoais
Not specifically the Sphinx, but.....

http://www.galactic-server.com/rune/pyrmyst.html

DEEP - HIDDEN - ENORMOUS CHAMBERS DEEP UNDER GIZA?

From the booklet

MYSTERIES OF THE PYRAMID

Of David H. Lewis - from New Jersey, USA, who has spent countless years studying ancient transcripts, hieroglyphics, etc

Preface: the author here claims that a unknown, secret entrance to the great pyramid was at last found on the basis of instructions and "intricate codes" - found in a type of underearth tomb in 1936. These code-findings were east of Athena but the "statements" was not correct decoded until many years later he claims. Yes - it was not before june-76 that a small group was able to enter these enormous underground chambers lying deep under the pyramids on Giza. They claim to have taken thousands of microfilms of what they found - things that proves far distant ET-visitations, underground civilizations and far developed societies on earth. It may seem as a fantastic claim or a big bluff - but remember that if this should be true - the conservative scientific society and the might-powers in position - would do all to hide or stop these things. This is not groundless claims - because the now released reports from "the disclosure project" - shows very clear what the men in power has so well covered and denyed ET-visitations and similar the last 60 years or more. Another might that try to prevent these discoveries to come forth, is the mighty churches and the western religions - and the author was also strong influenced of this - as most of the Americans seems to be in many ways. He was a son of a priest (Rev..) Their might would weaken a lot - if proven discoveries would show that "god" did not make/create earth - and human as said literally in the bible, some few millenniums ago. Another thing to remark as some spiritual sources says - is that so-called evidence - that is too convincing - is not allowed to come forth from the spiritual "controlplane" - BECAUSE EVIDENCE IS SOMETHING THE RIPE SEEKER MUST AND WILL RECOGNIZE INSIDE HIM/HERSELF. Therfore it may be so that it was not yet intended that this things should come forth - until time was right.

It is also interesting that other sources as Lobsang Rampa and some physical ET- contactpersons told similar things that the claims here says.

(Some words are translated and some headlines added. There may be wordmistakes - as text is scanned).

Here some from the epilogue first:

"This unusual venture into these secret chambers was costly, not only in a monetary aspect, but in the four lives that were lost in the few short years that followed the expedition - due to this entry and the information gained. Although nothing was removed from these chambers, the microfilms have since proven to be a priceless entity to those who place money in a higher regard than human life. It is entirely doubtful now that these microfilm clips will ever be displayed for the general public and will remain as guarded as the spacecraft now in captivity at our Air Force Base.

"The records within this tomb are as near endless as time itself and had all these discs and plates been photographed, instead of the mere 2,700 that were taken, we may now have been able to conquer the many fears that befall every man. We may have gained enough basic knowledge to now prolong our total demise, changed the lifestyle of all those on earth, prevented the massive starvation now engulfing the world, found cures for cancer and other ills that plague mankind and eventual accomplished a new race of greedless people. Had we dug deeper with more photographs, we may have discovered the secret of the anti-gravitational machine, perfected the laser for our new and improved society, accomplished terrestrial travel, produced tiny wafers that would supply a multitude with the proper nutrition thus preventing hunger among the needy, and last but far from least, we may have found a sound use for telekinesis and teleportation.

What you have read in these preceding pages is not only the basic truths of the expedition, but only a brief scanning of the overall data retrieved. Since our Pyramid is evidence of our past - and can never be duplicated, we can actually say that Noah's Ark, the UFO's and Atlantis fit this same category of the higher technologies of the once advanced civilizations who inhabited our earth. Therefore, if these basic truths are now visible, how could one deny the contents of this tomb or the fact that such a tomb exists. It is not all that difficult to imagine the technologies of our ancients - in a comparison to ours. Their advancement was based on supreme knowledge handed down for millions of years - while our advancement is based on the bodies we must tramp upon to gain just a minor degree of advancement.



So from chapter 4-----------

http://www.galactic-server.com/rune/pyrmyst.html
supervike
I'm going to say cream cheese.
Harte
Because the sphinx is a carving and not a construction, the only thing inside the sphinx is the rock it's carved out of.

Harte
Rebelle*
Gold wacko.gif
cormac mac airt
Solid rock, with possibly a few fissures or fractures from settling over thousands of years.

cormac
Kryso
A lot of rock!
THAT GUY
QUOTE (Kryso @ Jun 19 2008, 06:46 PM) *
A lot of rock!



My lost remote control! and some socks.
Nucular
A series of progressively smaller sphinxes.
Moro
I think we should be wondering what's under the sphinx, and the giza plateau.
Promethius
QUOTE
My lost remote control! and some socks.


and a lot of loose change tongue.gif
Sag!ttarius
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ Jun 19 2008, 05:47 PM) *
I think we should be wondering what's under the sphinx, and the giza plateau.


That's exactly what I'd like to know. Although, I'm wondering if any researchers ever used a radar right smack through the Sphinx from the sides or top just to make sure it's actually full? Never know with those sneaky ancient "builders"... yes.gif
Moro
QUOTE (Sag!ttarius @ Jun 19 2008, 06:00 PM) *
That's exactly what I'd like to know. Although, I'm wondering if any researchers ever used a radar right smack through the Sphinx from the sides or top just to make sure it's actually full? Never know with those sneaky ancient "builders"... yes.gif

Who knows! Dr. Hawass can be rather picky when it comes to people messing around the giza plateau.
lil gremlin
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ Jun 19 2008, 11:07 PM) *
Who knows! Dr. Hawass can be rather picky when it comes to people messing around the giza plateau.

and for good reason too, otherwise the place would be overrun by folk looking for the Aliens' computer command centre, dilythium crystals, and maps of the Universe. Stopping nutters hacking away at the monument and the surrounding area has been a necessary, but irritating part of his job. grin2.gif

Moro
QUOTE (lil gremlin @ Jun 19 2008, 06:15 PM) *
and for good reason too, otherwise the place would be overrun by folk looking for the Aliens' computer command centre, dilythium crystals, and maps of the Universe. Stopping nutters hacking away at the monument and the surrounding area has been a necessary, but irritating part of his job. grin2.gif

No doubt, I must agree! People trying to find the records of atlantis under the sphinx is rather ridiculous if you ask me.
JonnyC
QUOTE (Nucular @ Jun 19 2008, 08:54 PM) *
A series of progressively smaller sphinxes.



Ha ha !!! Very funny, man!!
JonnyC
QUOTE (Qoais @ Jun 19 2008, 04:41 PM) *
Not specifically the Sphinx, but.....

http://www.galactic-server.com/rune/pyrmyst.html

DEEP - HIDDEN - ENORMOUS CHAMBERS DEEP UNDER GIZA?

From the booklet

MYSTERIES OF THE PYRAMID

Of David H. Lewis - from New Jersey, USA, who has spent countless years studying ancient transcripts, hieroglyphics, etc

Preface: the author here claims that a unknown, secret entrance to the great pyramid was at last found on the basis of instructions and "intricate codes" - found in a type of underearth tomb in 1936. These code-findings were east of Athena but the "statements" was not correct decoded until many years later he claims. Yes - it was not before june-76 that a small group was able to enter these enormous underground chambers lying deep under the pyramids on Giza. They claim to have taken thousands of microfilms of what they found - things that proves far distant ET-visitations, underground civilizations and far developed societies on earth. It may seem as a fantastic claim or a big bluff - but remember that if this should be true - the conservative scientific society and the might-powers in position - would do all to hide or stop these things. This is not groundless claims - because the now released reports from "the disclosure project" - shows very clear what the men in power has so well covered and denyed ET-visitations and similar the last 60 years or more. Another might that try to prevent these discoveries to come forth, is the mighty churches and the western religions - and the author was also strong influenced of this - as most of the Americans seems to be in many ways. He was a son of a priest (Rev..) Their might would weaken a lot - if proven discoveries would show that "god" did not make/create earth - and human as said literally in the bible, some few millenniums ago. Another thing to remark as some spiritual sources says - is that so-called evidence - that is too convincing - is not allowed to come forth from the spiritual "controlplane" - BECAUSE EVIDENCE IS SOMETHING THE RIPE SEEKER MUST AND WILL RECOGNIZE INSIDE HIM/HERSELF. Therfore it may be so that it was not yet intended that this things should come forth - until time was right.

It is also interesting that other sources as Lobsang Rampa and some physical ET- contactpersons told similar things that the claims here says.

(Some words are translated and some headlines added. There may be wordmistakes - as text is scanned).

Here some from the epilogue first:

"This unusual venture into these secret chambers was costly, not only in a monetary aspect, but in the four lives that were lost in the few short years that followed the expedition - due to this entry and the information gained. Although nothing was removed from these chambers, the microfilms have since proven to be a priceless entity to those who place money in a higher regard than human life. It is entirely doubtful now that these microfilm clips will ever be displayed for the general public and will remain as guarded as the spacecraft now in captivity at our Air Force Base.

"The records within this tomb are as near endless as time itself and had all these discs and plates been photographed, instead of the mere 2,700 that were taken, we may now have been able to conquer the many fears that befall every man. We may have gained enough basic knowledge to now prolong our total demise, changed the lifestyle of all those on earth, prevented the massive starvation now engulfing the world, found cures for cancer and other ills that plague mankind and eventual accomplished a new race of greedless people. Had we dug deeper with more photographs, we may have discovered the secret of the anti-gravitational machine, perfected the laser for our new and improved society, accomplished terrestrial travel, produced tiny wafers that would supply a multitude with the proper nutrition thus preventing hunger among the needy, and last but far from least, we may have found a sound use for telekinesis and teleportation.

What you have read in these preceding pages is not only the basic truths of the expedition, but only a brief scanning of the overall data retrieved. Since our Pyramid is evidence of our past - and can never be duplicated, we can actually say that Noah's Ark, the UFO's and Atlantis fit this same category of the higher technologies of the once advanced civilizations who inhabited our earth. Therefore, if these basic truths are now visible, how could one deny the contents of this tomb or the fact that such a tomb exists. It is not all that difficult to imagine the technologies of our ancients - in a comparison to ours. Their advancement was based on supreme knowledge handed down for millions of years - while our advancement is based on the bodies we must tramp upon to gain just a minor degree of advancement.



So from chapter 4-----------

http://www.galactic-server.com/rune/pyrmyst.html



Thanks for all the responses, guys!!

Qoasis, Thank you so much for those links, I'm going right through them all now!
Rosewin
QUOTE (Nucular @ Jun 19 2008, 02:54 PM) *
A series of progressively smaller sphinxes.


Best answer so far and reminds me of those cartoons where the character opens up a big gift to fight a slightly smaller one inside, and then opens that one to find the same thing...

...I think inside the Sphinx is a portal to another dimension. (well at least most of the fiction sources claim such) Seriously though perhaps some sort of knowledge is my hunch.
The Sandman
There is only the rock out of which it is carved "inside" the sphinx. If you are talking about under the sphinx, there also u will find rock. I dont know about the So called "Hall of records" under the sphinx's paw...let us leave it to the experts to dig it out, if Hawass agrees to it.
Qoais
You might be interested in this site as well.

http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/HO-OSIRIS.html

JonnyC
QUOTE (Qoais @ Jun 20 2008, 04:33 PM) *
You might be interested in this site as well.

http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/HO-OSIRIS.html


Qoasis, thanks so much for posting that link. Now that is a great read! I'm just making my way through it. Thanks for this new one, too. I'll let you know what I think of it when I get through it.

Jonny
Victumeusego
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ Jun 19 2008, 09:47 PM) *
I think we should be wondering what's under the sphinx, and the giza plateau.


to use Teal'cs words:
This is indeed Correct !

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Victumeusego
QUOTE (Moro Bumbleroot @ Jun 19 2008, 10:07 PM) *
Who knows! Dr. Hawass can be rather picky when it comes to people messing around the giza plateau.



Hwass is sweat.
I like his Cowboyhat.
HerNibs
I'm willing to put money on either rock and sand or sand and rock.


But I would think it would be GREAT if it was a creamy chocolate center.

rofl.gif

HN
Qoais
QUOTE
Who knows! Dr. Hawass can be rather picky when it comes to people messing around the giza plateau


The undersatement of the year! Just what is that 20 foot fence hiding that went up around the Giza Plateau?
Elite
rock....lots and lots of rock
i mean cmon wats so special about a carving like the sphinx
i dont see ppl going crazy over mount rushmore
Qoais
From NEXUS MAGAZINE APRIL-MAY 2004

Ancient cities under the sands of Giza
By TONY BUSHBY - from chapter 8 of his book: THE SECRET OF THE BIBLE
(mistakes on words may occure as text is scanned and some headlines added)


THE LOST HISTORY OF THE PYRAMIDS

"the Giza-plateau and old Cairo are crisscrossed with subterranean passageways, shafts, natural caverns, lakes and chambers that contain surprising artefacts, but Egyptian authorities are not ready to reveal these to the public"

To comprehend fully the secret information in the Bible, it is important to understand the extent of the subterranean tunnel system and associated chamber facilities existing below the surface of the Pyramid Plateau, for it was there that
major elements of Mystery School teachings developed, What happened under the sands thousands of years ago is not reflected in today's history books, and discoveries made in the last eight decades or so verify that point.

The Fayum Oasis district, just a few kilometres outside the boundary of the Memphis Nome, presents a site of unusual interest. It was in that lush, fertile valley that Pharaohs calling themselves the "masters of the royal hunts" fished and hunted with the boomerang (1), Lake Moeris once bordered the Fayum Oasis and on its shores was the famous Labyrinth, described by Herodotus as "an endless wonder to me". The Labyrinth contained 1500 rooms and an equal number of underground chambers that the Greek historian was not permitted to inspect, according to Labyrinth priests, "the passages were baffling and intricate", designed to provide safety for the numerous scrolls they said were hidden in subterranean apartments. That massive complex particularly impressed Herodotus and he spoke in awe of the structure:

There I saw twelve palaces regularly disposed, which had communication with each
other, interspersed with terraces and arranged around twelve halls. It is hard to believe they are the work of man, The walls are covered with carved figures, and each court is exquisitely built of white marble and surrounded by a colonnade. Near the corner where the labyrinth ends, there is a p yramid, two hundred and forty feet in
height, with great carved figures of animals on it and an underground passage by which it can be entered. I was told very credibly that underground chambers and passages connected this pyramid with the pyramids at Memphis.



Qoais
underground passages connecting pyramids

The pyramids at Memphis were the pyramids at Giza, for Giza was originally called Memphis (see reference, "Giza formerly Memphis" on Nordan's map from Travels in Egypt and Nubia, 1757, on page 152 of previous chapter).

Many ancient writers supported Herodotus' record of underground passages connecting major pyramids, and their evidence casts doubt on the reliability of traditionally presented Egyptian history . Crantor(300 BC) stated that there were certain underground pillars in Egypt that contained a written stone record of pre-history , and they lined accessways con-necting the pyramids. In his celebrated study, On the Mysteries, particularly those of the Egyptians, Chaldeans and the Assyrians, Iamblichus, a fourth-century Syrian representa-tive of the Alexandrian School of mystical and philosophical studies, recorded this infor-mation about an entranceway through the body of the Sphinx into the Great Pyramid (2):



This entrance, obstructed in our day by sands and rubbish, may still be traced between the forelegs of the crouched colossus, It was formerly closed by a bronze gate whose secret spring could be operated only by the Magi. It was guarded by
public respect, and a sort of religious fear maintained its inviolability better than armed protection would have done. In the belly of the Sphinx were cut out galleries leading to the subterranean part of the Great Pyramid. These galleries were so art-fully crisscrossed along their course to the Pyramid that, in setting forth into the passage without a guide throughout this network, one ceasingly and inevitably returned to the starting point.

It was recorded in ancient Sumerian cylinder seals that the
secret abode of the Anunnaki was "an underground
place. . . entered through a tunnel, its entrance hidden by sand and
by what they call Huwana. . .his teeth as the teeth of a dragon, his
face the face of a lion". That remarkable old text, unfortunately
fragmented, added that "He [Huwana] is unable to move forward,
nor is he able to move back", but they crept up on him from
behind and the way to "the secret abode of the Anunnaki" was no
longer blocked. The Sumerian record provided a probable
description of the lion-headed Sphinx at Giza, and if that great
creature was built to guard or obliterate ancient stairways and
lower passages leading to subterranean areas below and around it,
then its symbolism was most appropriate.





Local 19th-century Arab lore maintained that existing under the
Sphinx are secret chambers holding treasures or magical objects.
That belief was bolstered by the writings of the first-century
Roman historian Pliny, who wrote that deep below the Sphinx is concealed the "tomb of a ruler named Harmakhis that contains great
treasure", and, strangely enough, the Sphinx itself was once called "The Great Sphinx Harmakhis who mounted guard since the time of the Followers of Horus " . The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus

Marcellinus made additional disclosures about the existence of subterranean vaults that appeared to lead to the interior of the Great pyramid (3):

Inscriptions which the ancients asserted were engraved on the walls of certain underground galleries and passageswere constructed deep in the dark interior to preserve ancient wisdom from being lost in the flood.

A manuscript compiled by an Arab writer named Altelemsani is preserved in the British Museum, and it records the existence of a long, square, under-ground passage between the Great Pyramid and the River Nile with a "strange thing" blocking the Nile entrance. He related the following episode:

In the days of Ahmed Ben Touloun, a party entered the Great pyramid through

the tunnel and found in a side-chamber a
goblet of glass of rare colour and texture. As they were leav-
ing, they missed one of the party and, upon returning to seek
him, he came out to them naked and laughing said, "Do not
follow or seek for me " , and then rushed back into the
pyramid. His friends perceived that he was enchanted.

Upon learning about strange happenings under the Pyramid,
Ahmed Ben Touloun expressed a desire to see the goblet of glass.
During the examination, it was filled with water and weighed,
then emptied and re-weighed. The historian wrote that it was
"found to be of the same weight when empty as when full of
water" . If the chronicle is accurate, that lack of additional weight
provided indirect evidence of the existence of an extraordinary
science at Giza.



According to Masoudi in the 10th century, mechanical statues
with amazing capabilities guarded subterranean galleries under the Great Pyramid. Written one thousand years ago, his descrip-
tion is comparable to the computerised robots shown today in
space movies. Masoudi said that the automatons were pro-
grammed for intolerance, for they destroyed all "except those who
by their conduct were worthy of admission". Masoudi contended
that "written accounts of Wisdom and acquirements in the differ-
ent arts and sciences were hidden deep, that they might remain as
records for the benefit of those who could afterwards comprehend
them ". That is phenomenal information, as it is possible that,
since the times of Masoudi, "worthy" persons have seen the mys-
terious underground chambers. Masoudi confessed, "I have seen
things that one does not describe for fear of making people doubt
one's intelligence...but still I have seen them".

In the same century , another writer, Muterdi, gave an account of a bizarre incident in a narrow passage under Giza, where a group of people were horrified to see one of their party crushed to death by a stone door that, by itself, suddenly slid out from the face of the passageway and closed the corridor in front of them.


Qoais
Rather than copy the whole article, here's the link

http://www.galactic-server.com/rune/undergiza.html
rezna
The Sphinx has always been a fascinating topic for me. It's a carving of stone so nothing is inside of it. The theory currently being contested by Archaeologists is that the Sphinx is much older than currently acceptable theory will have you believe. A geologist named Robert Schock has done extensive research on the Sphinx, the material it's made from and how it came to have fissures from water falling on it. The only way the Sphinx could have had water fall on it was if it were carved at least before a time where rain fell more often on the Giza plateau. This is not outside the realm of possibility by any means, but it would throw a wrench in the cogs of Archaeologists long held belief that the Sphinx was built right along with the Giza pyramids. As far as the chambers below the Pyramids of Giza, Zahi Hawass has debunked basically any idea that there is some sort of mystical or magical stuff beneath either monument, and he has described it in detail on his own website which you can google. The most interesting stuff as far as the Sphinx is concerned is Robert Schock's work. Google him, he's a great researcher.
Harte
QUOTE (ISAEYEALLSEEING @ Jun 20 2008, 08:14 AM) *
- Post removed -

Seems to me that asking what's inside the sphinx betrays more ignorance than is implied in anything I said in this thread.

QUOTE (rezna @ Jun 20 2008, 02:07 PM) *
The Sphinx has always been a fascinating topic for me. It's a carving of stone so nothing is inside of it.


Careful, Rezna, you'll be labeled an unintelligent "bad penny!"

Harte
crystal sage
http://www.towers-online.co.uk/pages/shafted.htm

QUOTE
Hassan's Description - A Lucky Find...

nigel skinner-simpson
http://goodfelloweb.com/giza/ref.html





On returning to the U.K. in February 1998, I visited the Egypt Exploration Society library as part of the search for a copy of "Excavations At Giza." Unfortunately, it did not possess volumes 6 to 10 but while thumbing through volume 5 for no particular reason, I came across a reference to the subway and the shaft under the heading "Shafts Of The Saitic Period." It states:

"During this period, it was the custom for well-to-do persons to cut for themselves very wide and deep shafts ending in a spacious hall out of which opened a series of small chambers, each containing a sarcophagus... Sometimes the shaft is cut abnormally deep and in this case it is divided into stages as it descends. The most striking example of this type of shaft is that which was cut in the causeway of the Second Pyramid and discovered by me in our sixth season's work. [italics mine] Upon the surface of the causeway, they first built a platform in the shape of a mastaba, using stones taken from the ruins of the covered corridor of the causeway. In the centre of this superstructure they sank a shaft which passed through the roof and floor of the subway running under the causeway to a depth of about 9.00m. At the bottom of this shaft is a rectangular chamber, in the floor of the eastern side of which is another shaft. This descends about 14.00m and terminates in a spacious hall surrounded by seven burial chambers in each of which is a sarcophagus. two of these sarcophagi, which are of basalt and are monolithic, are so enormous that at first we wondered if they contained the bodies of sacred bulls.In the eastern side of this hall is yet another shaft, about 10.00m deep, but unfortunately it is flooded. Through the clear water we can see that it ends in a colonnaded hall, also having side chambers containing sarcophagi. We tried in vain to pump out the water, but it seems that a spring must have broken through the rock, for continual daily pumping over a period of four years was unable to reduce the water level..."

(excerpted from "Excavations At Giza Vol. 5 1933-1934" by Selim Hassan with the collaboration of Mahmoud Darwish, Cairo Government Press, Bulaq 1944, page193)

The description above is certainly very similar to the description in the appendix to H. Spencer Lewis's book but differences in interpretation are clear. Hassan is talking about a shaft tomb of the twenty sixth dynasty whereas Spencer Lewis suggests that it may well have been connected with an ancient mystery school and could possibly indicate the existence of other as yet undiscovered passages in the vicinity.
I was convinced that if I could locate a copy of Volume 6, Dr Hassan was sure to have fully documented the find complete with a plan of the layout. I am indebted to Dr David Jeffreys of University College, London for pointing me in the direction of The Griffith Institute, Oxford, and to Dr John Spencer for allowing me to visit the library one Saturday morning. The site excavation plan in volume 6 clearly shows the position of the subway under the causeway and confirms that it was excavated during the sixth season. Unfortunately, I could not find a single mention of the subway or the shaft and its chambers. The extensive descriptions dealt only with the excavation of the Old kingdom tombs to the south of the causeway. Where to look next? continue....]
http://www.towers-online.co.uk/pages/shaftidx.htm


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread75962/pg1
http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles..._Orion_Giza.htm
seax
We may never know what is under the sphinx. There is a chamber under one of the paws according to the History Channel. But the Egyptian government won't let anyone dig to it. You ask why? Reason is, the Egyptians have a lot of pride in the pyramids being they are the assumed architects and they don't want anything to screw that up.

There are all kinds of stories of what could be in the "room". Records from Atlantis, records from ET. Could be a dead Pharoh. Until someone goes in it, all we can do is guess and assume.

Who knows, hell -- Elvis may be living there.

best regards,
seax cool.gif
Qoais
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seax
Hello Qoais,

You're saying there have already been some excavations? I have never heard of this before. And this was in 1935.

Where is the rest of the article? Is it on the internet?

best regards,
seax
Qoais
Hi Seax

As Emile Baraize's massive 11-year sand and seashell clearing
project neared completion in 1935, remarkable stories started to
emerge about discoveries made during the clearing project. A
magazine article, written and published in 1935 by Hamilton M.
Wright, dealt with an extraordinary discovery under the sands of
Giza that is today denied. The article was accompanied by origi-
nal photographs provided by Dr Selim Hassan, the leader of the
scientific investigative team from the University of Cairo who
made the discovery. It said:

We have discovered a subway used by the ancient Egyptians
of 5000 years ago. It passes beneath the causeway leading
between the second Pyramid and the Sphinx. It provides a
means of pqssing under the causeway from the Cheops
Pyramid to the Pyramid of Chephren [Khephren] . From this
subway, we have unearthed a series of shafts leading down more
than 125 feet, with roomy courts and side chambers .

Around the same time, the international news media released further
details of the find.

The underground connector complex was originally built between the Great pyramid and the Temple of the Solarmen, for the Pyramid of Khephren was a later and superficial structure. The subway and its apartments were exca-vated out of solid, living bedrock-a truly extraordinary feat, considering it was built thousands of years ago.

There is more to the story of under-ground chambers at Giza, for media reports described the unearthing of a subterranean passageway between the Temple of the Solar-men on the plateau and the Temple of the Sphinx in the valley. That passageway had been unearthed a few years before the release and publication of that particular newspaper article.

The discoveries led Dr Selim Hassan and others to believe and publicly state that, while the age of the Sphinx was always enigmatic in the past, it may have been part of the great architectural plan that was deliberately arranged and carried out in association with the erection of the Great Pyramid.


Archaeologists made another major discovery at that time.
Around halfway between the Sphinx and Khephren's Pyramid were discovered four enormous vertical shafts, each around eight feet square, leading straight down through solid limestone. It is called "Campbell's Tomb" on the Masonic and Rosicrucian plans, and "that shaft complex", said Dr Selim Hassan, "ended in a spacious room, in the centre of which was another shaft that descend-ed to a roomy court flanked with seven side chambers ". Some of the chambers contained huge, sealed sarcophagi of basalt and granite, 18 feet high.

The discovery went further and found that in one of the seven rooms there was yet a third vertical shaft, dropping down deeply to a much lower chamber. At the time of its discovery , it was flooded with water that partly covered a solitary white sarcophagus.

That chamber was named the "Tomb of Osiris" and was shown
being "opened for the first time" on a fabricated television docu-
mentary in March 1999. While originally exploring in this area in
1935, Dr Selim Hassan said:

We are hoping to find some monuments of importance after
clearing out this water. The total depth of these series of
shafts is more than 40 metres or more than 125 feet. . . In the
cour,'!e of clearing the southern part of the subway, there was
found a very fine head of a statue which is very expressive in
every detail of the face .



According to a separate newspaper report of the time, the statue
was an excellent sculpted bust of Queen Nefertiti, described as "a
beautiful example of that rare type of art inaugurated in the
Amenhotep regime". The whereabouts of that statue today are
unknown.

The report also described other chambers and rooms beneath
the sands, all interconnected by secret and ornate passageways.
Dr Selim Hassan revealed that not only are there inner and outer
courts, but they also found a room they named the "Chapel of
Offering" that had been cut into a huge, rock outcrop between
Campbell's Tomb and the Great Pyramid. In the centre of the
chapel are three ornate vertical pillars standing in a triangular
shaped layout. Those pillars are highly significant points in this
study, for their existence is recorded in the Bible. The conclusion
drawn is that Ezra, the initiated Torah writer (c. 397 BC), knew
the subterranean layout of passages and chambers at Giza before
he wrote the Torah.



That underground design was probably the
origin of the triangular shaped layout around the central altar in a
Masonic lodge. In Antiquities of the Jews, Josephus, in the first
century, wrote that Enoch of Old Testament fame constructed an
underground temple consisting of nine chambers. In a deep vault
inside one chamber with three vertical colpmns, he placed a
triangular-shaped tablet of gold bearing upon it the absolute name of the Deity (God).

The description of Enoch's chambers was
similar to the description of the Chapel of Offering under the sand
just east of the Great Pyramid.

An anteroom much like a burial chamber, but "undoubtedly a
room of initiation and reception "(5) was found higher up the
plateau closer to the Great Pyramid and at the upper end of a slop-
ing passage, cut deep into rock on the northwest side of the
Chamber of Offering (between the Chamber of Offering and the
Great Pyramid). In the centre of the chamber is a 12-foot long
sarcophagus of white Turah limestone and a collection of fine
alabaster vessels. The walls are beautifully sculpted with scenes,
inscriptions and emblems of particularly the lotus flower. The
descriptions of alabaster vessels and the emblematic lotus flower
have remarkable parallels with what was found in the temple-
workshop on the summit of Mt Sinai/Horeb by Sir William Petrie
in 1904.



Additional underground rooms, chambers, temples and
hallways were discovered, some with vertical circular stone
support columns, and others with wall carvings of delicate figures
of goddesses clothed in beautiful apparel. Dr Selim Hassan's
report described other magnificently carved figures and many
beautifully coloured friezes. Photographs were taken and one
author and researcher who saw them, Rosicrucian H. Spencer
Lewis recorded that he was "deeply impressed" with the images.
It is not known where the rare specimens of art and relics are
today, but some were rumoured to have been smuggled out of
Egypt by private collectors.



The foregoing particulars are but a few contained in Dr Selim
Hassan's extensive report that was published in 1944 by the
Government Press, Cairo, under the title Excavations at Giza (10
volumes). Howevet, that is just a mere fragment of the whole
truth of what is under the area of the Pyramids. In the last year of
sand clearing, workers uncovered the most amazing discovery
that stunned the world and attracted international media coverage.


http://www.galactic-server.com/rune/undergiza.html#1944
seax
Qoais,

Why would this information be kept from the public?

seax cool.gif
Qoais
Well Seax, this is only my opinion:

A) The Egyptians are very proud that they're given credit for the building of the 7th Wonder of the World - as was (now the 8th) as in honorable mention. THAT recent designation pissed off a few of the Egyptian Antiquaries people for sure.

cool.gif Greed - Where do you think that beauiful statuette went? Some greedy millionair private collector most likely, and with the funds, further work could be done on excavating as well as lining a few pockets.

C) Hidden Knowledge and/or priceless artifacts. Knowledge that would set the world on it's ear. The Churches of the world would have to pull in their horns and turn tail and run. Do you know how much money the Church makes - especially the Catholic Church? Do you know how many scientists would have to change their theories, do you know how many text books would have to be re-written? I think it would be great. Gives new jobs to a ton of people and we'd also get to know the truth about the past and could move on in the right direction.

Ok, I'm out of breath tongue.gif
Victumeusego
QUOTE (seax @ Jun 21 2008, 07:21 AM) *
Qoais,

Why would this information be kept from the public?

seax cool.gif


Yes Qoasis.

And another perspective would be this:

1. It is for out safety.
If the information is what i think, and humanity is what i see - i would absolutly not disclose what is hidden under the sand.
What would happen to a rightwing christian "Average-Joe's" reality if he would had to understand his civilisation is not what he was brainwashed to?
How many of them you had to take responsebility for suicide/riots/rebellion. All institution including the vatican would be toast.
Well we cant have this - can't we?

or

2. Powergames.
Bad boys dont wanna share the mindblowing info/technology. You never empower servants.

I think its a mixture from both.
In eather case, we have been brainwashed. The articles Qoasis posted have slipped 1935 through censorship.
Today informationcontroll is excellent in its performance. All we are alowed to see and hear is mindless trash.

We do might have degrees in science and work in high places, but we are not educated, we are savage people.
We have no clue whats going on, and what our true history was. The majority of us dont even bother - so why bother disclosing to them what would
bust their reality-bubble ?
seax
Quite an article. Like I said this is news to me. And yes, I understand how much money the catholic church takes in and no telling how much they have "happened on" through the past few centuries. It is still hard to believe some phd in archeology hasn't broken rank and gone after this. Who knows. But your reasons are valid ones they make sense.

bes regards,
seax

The Puzzler
QUOTE (Harte @ Jun 20 2008, 02:45 AM) *
Because the sphinx is a carving and not a construction, the only thing inside the sphinx is the rock it's carved out of.

Harte

I'd have to agree on that, from what I know, it is in the quarry from where the rock came from for the Great Pyramid, I think it's a carving done at the same time. Originally with a lion's head.
jaylemurph
QUOTE


Just as a word of warning, I'd take anything Qoais quotes from this site with a very large pinch of salt. Much of the material the author "quotes" doesn't actually appear in the texts he cites, and much of the rest he takes liberties to re-write.

Not that Qoais himself is doing anything wrong, he's just quoting someone distinctly nefarious.

--Jaylemurph
bee
QUOTE (Qoais @ Jun 21 2008, 10:57 PM) *
I made an error in the thread "Liquid Light",


You didn't make an error in the liquid light thread.......and even if you did.......which I don't think you
did.....you are willing to make threads and share ideas....and that is a GOOD thing... yes.gif

Some people here don't share ideas....they tend to just criticise the ideas of others..... angry.gif
iSeeDeadPpl!
sand
Sag!ttarius
QUOTE (bee @ Jun 21 2008, 06:04 PM) *
Some people here don't share ideas....they tend to just criticise the ideas of others..... angry.gif


That's my thought as well. I thought UM was different from other forums. However, same thing. Debunkers all over trying to insult, intimidate every single new ideas, propositions, theories, nastily defending the main stream theories. No thinking outside the box with these folks. Just plain hardline denials of "what if's". Not any better than religious extremists cutting infidel throats, sadly enough...
cormac mac airt
What's inside the Sphinx? Rock, Rock and more Rock.

What's under the Sphinx/Giza Plateau? The Tomb of Osiris and associated tunnels/levels.

This was known long before Zahi Hawass presented it back in 1999. Except for a few sarcophagi, including the one allegedly for Osiris, some water, some bone pieces and some pottery pieces there haven't been any really significant items found there. It basically amounts to a series of holes in the ground dating to around 600 BC. Not exactly ancient.

If it weren't for all the speculation from members of the fringe sciences concerning an alleged "Hall of Records", the Tomb of Osiris and associated tunnels would probably never have gotten the attention it has. Still there has never been ANY evidence for the existence of a "Hall of Records" or anything remotely like one.

cormac
Qoais
"A few holes in the ground" isn't quite as descriptive as Dr. Hassan's report is it?
cormac mac airt
QUOTE (Sag!ttarius @ Jun 21 2008, 05:13 PM) *
That's my thought as well. I thought UM was different from other forums. However, same thing. Debunkers all over trying to insult, intimidate every single new ideas, propositions, theories, nastily defending the main stream theories. No thinking outside the box with these folks. Just plain hardline denials of "what if's". Not any better than religious extremists cutting infidel throats, sadly enough...



Whoa Nellie!!!

I get your frustration Sag!ttarius, but not everyone's out to insult or intimidate people over new ideas, propositions, theories, etcetera. Yes, I know that there are many hardcore mainstream believers, but anyone worth a damn knows that science is ALOT MORE FLEXIBLE than many wish to believe, from either side of the fence. I personally have run across my share of people I would call "Bobble-Head" believers. Those who will believe ANYTHING as long as it contradicts mainstream science. No, I'm not talking about anyone here, just people I've run across in general. Should I put anyone who does'nt believe the way I do in that category? No, just as you shouldn't make sweeping statements about Debunkers.

cormac
cormac mac airt
QUOTE (Qoais @ Jun 21 2008, 05:41 PM) *
"A few holes in the ground" isn't quite as descriptive as Dr. Hassan's report is it?


Hi Qoais,

I was talking in the general sense. Many want whatever is found under the Sphinx or Giza Plateau to be the answer to all their questions, with an explanation for everything. There is no evidence that will ever be true. Nice thought though.

cormac
bee
QUOTE (cormac mac airt @ Jun 21 2008, 11:59 PM) *
Hi Qoais,

I was talking in the general sense. Many want whatever is found under the Sphinx or Giza Plateau to be the answer to all their questions, with an explanation for everything. There is no evidence that will ever be true. Nice thought though.


That's a very sweeping statement.......high-lighted above.....think about it....'no evidence that will ever be true'... huh.gif

Anyway.....I've been meaning to ask you....what are the pics on your avatar....I recognise the 'opening of
the mouth' thingy....and the double-headed axe.....but what are the others? original.gif


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