Apparently Global Warming is to blame for more earthquakes and volcano eruptions....

Also MSNBC and CBS seem to agree with this one scientist.

"The research proves that destructive ability of earthquakes on Earth increases alarmingly fast and that this trend is set to continue, unless the problem of "global warming" is comprehensively and urgently addressed. "

Not sure if you believe this or not, but it's false, global warming doesn't exist. What is actually happening is a polar shift, soon North and South are going to be located somewhere else but scientist like to say that this is false and cannot happen, but a lot of other agree with the polar shift. That is the reason the ice capes are melting and animals are going biserk and the reason to abnormal weather and natural disasters.

... Seriously?

Oi.

Trust me when I say I don't believe in AGW either. I would be ashamed of myself if I actually believe carbon dioxide caused more earthquakes and volcano eruptions. That's like saying burping and farting makes people eat more.....

The article is very well correct. I see it was a contribution of quite a number of scientists including geologists, we must learn to accept their profesional word. But leaving that aside, what the article states is what is happening now according to global physics and tectonics. Quite amazing really.




No, it's definitely not the same thing, please study the article correctly so a better conclusion can be made from your part.

What complete load of nonsense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_shift#Recent_Research

+ I never trust someone who simply says something is simply nonsense...

Oh I'm sorry, how does that support a rise in the average global temperature?

The rise in global temperature is present and there is definite PROOF of it, and it has been measured, the rise of CO2 in the atmosphere has been measured aswell. Global Warming IS happening and there is proof of it.

I don't know, one thing there is no land mass under the north pole. I could see were there might be changes like he says at the south pole. That would put most of the volcanoes and earthquakes in the southern hemisphere. I don't think what he says is going to happen, but I do think goble warming is a reality and if volanoes become more active it might slow down the warming. Sooner or later we are going to have to deal with it. Goodby beach front condos that block the view.

the north and south poles are shifting and melting doing so. There is going to be a new north and south pole. So other places are going to cool down, which is happening, and others are warming up, which is also happening... This isn't global warming, it's a polar shift... There are scientists that believe this to be true and others that think that this is what happened to Atlantis also, disappeared into one of the ice capes, frozen, gone, lost as we know it. Look into it before arguing. Please save us some trouble and stop being a dunce.

Feel free to back that up with some evidence.

in the end, we should just pick up our garbage. earthquakes or not

qft.

Even before this global warming mess, there were more then enough good reasons to care for the environment. It should not have had to come down to doomsday predictions for the masses to actually start caring.

It seems the old Cree indian prophecy about money will turn out to be true.

Sure, read up...

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/news/2005...net_Pole_Shift/

I know about pole shift, where is there anything about global warming in that article?
That is also not a scientific source, if you want to call me a dunce show me scientific papers, I presume you know what they are not something which uses pseudo-science in it.

I agree with you. And now the founder of The Weather Channel and 30,000 scientist are suing Al Gore for telling lies.

There is zero real proof out there that these events are being caused by a pole shift Mysterious Glitch. Please don't bring things here as if they are fact, you obviously haven't taken any environmental or any geographical courses. Nor do you have any sort of degree. If you did you would know that the pole shift is all very new science. We know that it happens and we know that it has happened on other planets. We have NO idea HOW it will happen yet. We have ZERO proof that it would happen suddenly and we have ZERO proof that it will happen slowly over time. We just don't know, that is the bottom line.

I absolutely refuse to debate if global warming is happening or not. If you want to hear what I have to say on it go read my posts on the global warming thread. I will just say a few words and I refuse to debate it because it is an utter waste of time because it gets NOTHING done. Is global warming natural? Yes. Would all of this have happened anyway without us? Yes. All we are doing is speeding things up rapidly, that's it. End of story. Finished. Can we stop it? No. Could we slow it down? Maybe. One day will New York City be under a hundred feet of us? Yes. You all see what I mean now? What good is any of this doing for us. If scientists came out and were able to give a scientific fact that global warming and all of this is real it would accomplish nothing. Not one thing will change.

Stop talking about global warming, it's a stupid topic. We are a species and we are as liable as any other species in the world. We can screw things up as much as we want and life will go on. With or without us. Now what we need to talk about are things we NEED. Number one, we need to revamp our entire energy system. After we do all of that we can break our addiction to oil and everything will be running along just fine. While we are doing this we need to talk money + jobs. That is what people care about and that is what we need to care about. Making our life better and insuring that our children will have better lives. Here we can get out of our economic recession while making a 1000000% necessary leap that should have been done 40 years ago. If we do all of that and don't even think about global warming, guess what? We just solved that problem as best as we can without even thinking about it. Again regardless of what happens everything will continue. It may be slower but everything is inevitable. So we have to do what we can to make sure we have a future. The only way people will care about the future is if they are making money and if they have a job right now. Don't talk about global warming, talk about revamping our energy system and creating a lot of money and jobs in the process.

Do you really believe that? I mean seriously?
Tomorrow I put some real science (journal papers) on global warming.

GLOBAL WARMING WAS NOT THOUGHT UP BY AL GORE. Is that clear enough for you?

Ditto

I know it's new to science and it happens. It is causing weather changes like I have been saying which we are mistaking for Global Warming. It is common sense of what will happen. North and South pole shifts, new polar Ice capes, and different weather elsewhere where it isn't likely for that type of weather. Were all blaming it on the thought of pollution which is also a factor to this. The world has many problems because of natural and unnatural things happening to it. I'm just trying to get the most probable reason out. This is all a theory like a lot of other things.

It's the theory with the least amount of evidence. It happens but there is ZERO real evidence that it is causing all of this, so no it is not common sense.

Maybe it's a little bit of everything, toiled in together, causing these changes.

Shouldn't we be emphasizing more on WHAT we CAN do to change what we know of to be wrong.. instead of arguing what's the cause.. ?

It wasn't created by him no, but what he's doing by trying to scare the entire planet into believing that we're all going to die unless we pay more taxes, and diminish our quality of life, so that he and other upper-class people can get richer makes no better than a fear mongering con artist in my opinion.

The reason so many advocates against AGW blame him is because he was the primary starter of the entire movement. There's a reason he has never accepted a challenge to debate AGW, he knows he can't win against who confronts him.

Between 1894 and sometime in the 1920's "scientists" were claiming that in less than two decades the world's crops would be frozen over. - It didn't happen

In the 1930's they tried the first global warming scare claiming the longest American dry spell since 1776. - As we all know, that never happened. Instead we went into another cooling cycle.

In 1975 another global cooling scare began and newspapers and politicians again began to claim that a new ice-age was soon be ushered in. - Again, it didn't happen.

30 years later, after acid rain and many other small attempts, a large number of people around the world have finally found something blame for this "new" global warming. Carbon dioxide.

There is no real evidence of man-made global warming. Every piece the "alarmists" produce the "skeptics" have either debunked or offered something just as convincing, but proving the contrary. I just hope that people will eventually realize that there is ALWAYS going to be something out there threatening our entire species, and if there isn't people will search and search until they DO find something.

Not really, Europe had already implemented plans to help counter global warming way before Al Gores film, it was very much well known before then and well studied.

If you ever care to look btw there has been a general warming trend (it is a nice curve) since late 1800's.

Ask Scandinavia how they felt about acid rain btw, see what it did to there landscape.

It is nothing to do with being alarmist it is analysis of the data presented and it clearly shows a general and rapid warming trend over the last century.

Hibernating solar cycle, ocean currents ... yea maybe

I hate to say this but true or false some politicians and buisness bigwigs are going to milk some of us of our hard earned money one way or another.

Well they will you .. I will sit in prison before I pad their already padded wallets for some propaganda bull doody known as global scaming.

There has been evidence in the past of moving poles.

We know it happens, we just don't really know how and why. We don't know if it's sudden, or gradual. We know there is a moon out there I forget which one I think it's one of Jupiter's that has it's poles east and west. We have no evidence that it is happening right now and causing all of this weather. Without evidence you can't draw a conclusion.

Why is it that when people who haven't done their homework are asked for evidence, they cry "it's common sense"? There is much in science that is counter-intuitive. There is abundant evidence of global warming. there is not abundant evidence that polar shift is driving change. If the evidence mounts, then the issue will be considered, but at the moment the polar shift idea has about as much support as solar cycles.

OMFG, lol...

I really like this... you guys think I haven't done my homework... lol... I have, and lots of it, each time I do my homework I find out more stuff thats happening. It is a pole shift and more behind it too. I have a few movies that I've found for you guys. Watch an learn... I'm just givin my opinion no need to be asses. If it was global warming it would even be hot during the nights, this ain't and will not be "global warming." And since when does other places freeze and others warm up... kind'a funny for me you know... global - means world wide, warming - means heating up... put both together world wide heating, not happening. I've done my research found tons of things that are plauseable but global warming isn't one at the moment.

Part I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0bj76389U

Part II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjjrStDxTrc...feature=related

Part III
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5TOmRD_V48...feature=related

Part IV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNZIyfBChmA...feature=related

Part V
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zero0Y6TCA8...feature=related

Reminds me of the movie "The Day After tomorrow" I think we can expect more climate extremes to come.

I believe you and have been saying it for a long time and you are exactly right a pole shift is occurring I wish the media was not so controlled this information is in several science journals available to any who choose to view, anyway Thanks for the post!

Watching You tube
is not
research.

QFT

No.
Unless you're referring to Quantum Field Theory?

DogsHead, while I'm not sold on the supposed fact mankind is fueling global warming, I think it's occurring. While I respect your opinion, I cringe at posting youtube videos as proof of anything. You're not the only person doing so, trust me. Surely you can provide your own take? I'd much more respect that.

QFT means Quoted For Truth.

I don't see a problem with youtube links. As long as the actual video is credible it wouldn't be any different than if you got it from any other site.

My problem lies with posters providing a link to a youtube video, provided or produced by some completely unknown person, and the poster stating "This is my opinion." It's not their opinion, it's the opinion/production of some completely unknown person.

Whatever happened to providing your own opinion?

Well I think scientific papers top it all really in terms of evidence.


However when you post videos called 2012 and Planet X, you clearly lack a grasp of science.

Oh just in case anyone though acid rain was forgotten Acid Rain. The media forgetting is not the same as it being forgotten.

Regardless of 'Polar Shifting' and 'Global Warming' It does seem that the world is having more frequent and more violent natural disasters than I can ever remember in my lifetime of 39 years.
I'm sure some of this has to do with widespead media coverage realizing more and more that 'Bad Events' = 'Good News Content'. I remember as a kid hurricanes happening in Florida etc... but NOT the kind that were getting 2 weeks of media coverage.

I was just stating to a friend the other day how many severe Thunderstorms we've had recently here in Central New York State. I don't ever remember the weather here being so radical as it has been in the last 2-3 years.

I'm sure media coverage is part of it, but to fair even an 80 year old man's lifetime isn't enough to accurately judge geological or climactic events on an average base. The Earth has been around for a long time, a few dozen years of averages can't even hope to be enough data to show if we're getting more now, or if we were just getting less then.

That is true to an extent but we can extrapolate historical temperatures and we do keep records and have done for some time now. So we can use historical data to look at trends in climate.

Hey Incorrigible, I'm not sure if I am understanding you, but the Youtoobe C&Per was Glitch, and I who pointed out that this doesn't constitute reseach, so I think we are on the same page! All that notwithstanding, I am always happy to give my own perspective. I think two things about the subject are of enormous importance; so important thjat they almost outwiegh the fact of global warming (and I do not dispute that it is happening - a global upward tend in temps). One is that I fear that we are ignoring clouds. I am not a meterologist, but I have read a few things about how little we undestand clouds, and how big a role they may play in planetary weather. I am now officially in awe of clouds. The other is that the debate should really be now progressing past the IF question: IF man is to blame, IF it's really happening, IF we can do anything; and onto the how question. In my mind, this is a perfect time to force a paradigm shift in mans energy use and way we think about our interaction with the world and the universe at large. I have been carrying the torch for Moon bases for decades. Now is the time to get off-world in big numbers, whether it be orbital, or Lunar. Reduce the pressure on the environment, resources, start mining those big, dead lumps of iron and water and minerals. Start now.
Where the mechanics of global warming are concerned, I am as bamboozled as any non scientist. I think our efforts to model this stuff are doomed to failure without the next gen of computers. I think we are beter served measuring as we have been, in a classical sense, the "known" areas - salinity, moisture content, ocean temps, various particulate concentrations in the atmosphere etc, to try and track the effects of warming, to thereby give ourselves a bigger picture and small predictive powers. Most mega-engineering solutions are just silly.
Hum!
There much more obviously, but I would like to point out to Glitch that not one word of this came from anywhere but my head.
And thanks for the meaning of QFT - when I looked it up, I got Quit ****ing Talking!!
whoot.

agreed !!!!!

couldnt have put it better mate. its just the goverment looking to gain more money out of us again hence the rising cost of petrol and congestion charges and green tax?? the goverment are a joke. the earth heats up and cools down all the time always has done.

Yes agree with you one that part that watching youtube isn't research. But this is from people who have dones their research in everyway possible. They went and got scientific facts, they went and read the bible, they even looked at the Egyptians bible and it all fixs like a puzzle. For me this is more believeable than something that doesn't have full meaning to it.

Now I'll post this part again

GLOBAL = World Wide

WARMING = heating up

GLOBAL + WARMING = World Wide Heating (not happening when other places are cooling down)



It maybe a youtube video, but it if from another website if you guys even dared to watch it. And again, they did their research.



Exactly my point, thank you...



Since you guys clearly haven't seen the films, I'm guessing that why your saying I lack a grasp of science. If you watch them you would know there is scientific proof in one of the parts, and they have historical proof.



And again thanks...

So it's just one huge massive chunk of iceberg? well then if it isn't attached to land beneath then why has it not floated into greenland causing mass destruction? LOL. nice. I needed a laugh today.


It always does my friend. Nothing is EVER done or SAID until its too late. It taked someone to die to make something safer. It takes lots of people to die to fix a law or for that matter, make one so it doesn't happen again.
take 9/11 for example.
we were united as a country for what? a month or 2? flags everywhere, etc.... then it went away, back to our ignorant self-absorbed tiny lives.
It's a human norm and no way around it. but very good point Xenojjin.

I'm not going to get into a majorly long discussion but I've been following environmental issues for a long time.
Though I believe there may be significant evidence of global warming, there's definately something going on. Many speculate that the earth changes climates every couple thousand years. This seems to be where it's headed. but search for yourself and make your own decisions.
oh, and watch out for the idiots who counter with" theres more CO2 released from a volcano than by our cars in 100 years."
I laughed my *** off when I read that one and reminded them that cars have only existed for about 50 years.
anyhow........
If you like documentaries.... check out "An Inconvenient Truth"
I don't like Al Gore at all, but its an eye opening movie.

Energy Guzzled by Al Gore’s Home in Past Year Could Power 232 U.S. Homes for a Month


NASHVILLE - In the year since Al Gore took steps to make his home more energy-efficient, the former Vice President’s home energy use surged more than 10%, according to the Tennessee Center for Policy Research.

“A man’s commitment to his beliefs is best measured by what he does behind the closed doors of his own home,” said Drew Johnson, President of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research. “Al Gore is a hypocrite and a fraud when it comes to his commitment to the environment, judging by his home energy consumption.”

In the past year, Gore’s home burned through 213,210 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity, enough to power 232 average American households for a month.

In February 2007, An Inconvenient Truth, a film based on a climate change speech developed by Gore, won an Academy Award for best documentary feature. The next day, the Tennessee Center for Policy Research uncovered that Gore’s Nashville home guzzled 20 times more electricity than the average American household.

After the Tennessee Center for Policy Research exposed Gore’s massive home energy use, the former Vice President scurried to make his home more energy-efficient. Despite adding solar panels, installing a geothermal system, replacing existing light bulbs with more efficient models, and overhauling the home’s windows and ductwork, Gore now consumes more electricity than before the “green” overhaul.

Since taking steps to make his home more environmentally-friendly last June, Gore devours an average of 17,768 kWh per month –1,638 kWh more energy per month than before the renovations – at a cost of $16,533. By comparison, the average American household consumes 11,040 kWh in an entire year, according to the Energy Information Administration.

http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/articl...?article_id=764

Profound hypocrisy.

When you post a film called "2012 and planet X" from youtube you can say you have thrown science out the window. Documentaries do not constitute science and when the start off with planet X nonsense you can be safe in assuming they are not reliable.
The highlighted bit is just incorrect, not everywhere has to be warming, just the average temperature has to rise.

Try looking at these sources:
University of East Anglia - Climatology
NASA: Climatology

That is simply not true, there are plenty of scientific papers over the last 3 decades working on this. There is scientific evidence for severe climatological changes.