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Aanica
Today I began to read up on Indigo Children I find the traits facinating and supriseingly accurate to behaviors described, I am wondering if anyone else has indigo children or shares this point to be a valid mark in evaloution? I have included three articles with various descriptions for a varied point of view.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/12/fashion/...s/12INDIGO.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children


http://www.namastecafe.com/evolution/indigo/reality.htm


PS: sorry about the spelling I ment Indigo not the Indingo...oops blush.gif
InHuman
Kidna up in the air this myth. There's nothing substantial behind it, just people wanting "special" children.
ambelamba
QUOTE (Aanica @ Jun 19 2008, 08:40 PM) *
Today I began to read up on Indigo Children I find the traits facinating and supriseingly accurate to behaviors described, I am wondering if anyone else has indigo children or shares this point to be a valid mark in evaloution? I have included three articles with various descriptions for a varied point of view.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/12/fashion/...s/12INDIGO.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children


http://www.namastecafe.com/evolution/indigo/reality.htm


PS: sorry about the spelling I ment Indigo not the Indingo...oops blush.gif


I found a better explanation. Don't get offendend.

Indigo Children
Slave2Fate
HAHAHA laugh.gif that was funny ambelamba.

But seriously, my son has some of the traits of an indigo child.(except the blue aura, I don't know about that grin2.gif ) He is in the 1st grade and he is doing 4th/5th grade work. I, however am not sure I buy into the whole "Indigo Child" movement.
Asphodel
QUOTE (ambelamba @ Jun 19 2008, 11:13 PM) *
I found a better explanation. Don't get offendend.

Indigo Children


That's about right. laugh.gif Seriously, it is. That was perfect. mellow.gif

Had to add this. I've had a number of people tell me I am indigo. Thankfully, never my own mother. We think its ridiculous. One of the women, my neighbor, thought her son was for a while... until she had to realize he isn't too bright and he just had ADHD. Her new age BS drives me nuts, though. She goes for all the fads. I feel bad for her kids.
Cradle of Fish
Sorry, but evolution doesn't work like that.

But speaking of special children, aren't they all special before we send them off to school?

"and others that they are distinguished from non-Indigo children merely by more conventional traits such as increased empathy and creativity." from Wiki.

That sounds like wish thinking to me. They're probably not more creative than we are, we just see how creative they are before we send them to school and think wow, thats spectacular, without remembering that we were probably equally creative when we were that age, it was just pushed out of most of us when we were in school.
Rosewin
Hi Aanica. There is also the concept of crystal children and star seed. Some consider them all the same. I read an article once that also noted differences between these special children that were born in the late 70s and early 80s as not the same as the ones born in the late 80s and early 90s. This would lead me to believe that their purpose would be achieved when those generations became adults and would be in different positions to help bring about or help the transition to what will become after the earth changes that will occur. Some believe these children are still being born. Well I disagree that 95% of children under 10 are Indigos.

Either way what wearies me the most is it becoming an industry, just a way for some to make money from selling books, having special classes, or workshops. If they have any special differences they do not need these marketing components to have them be realized. The Universe is not dumb nor does it require something that cost money for it to effect the changes it will. That is just my take. Sorry that most of the users on the forum are unable to simply discuss these topics with an open mind even if they do not agree with them. I do not really think the concept of Indigos is a good one...if true it will bring about some things I am against. But there might be something to it all.
Aanica
Thank you Clovis for a serious perspective. Aanica


I was wondering do you know where to find the information about the differences in the time lines you spoke of (70s 80s and late 80s 90s )
Oblivion
I'm 18 now, and the wikipedia described myself pretty accurately , and this even make me remember a friend of mine that said something similar, that big part of those that were born between 1985-1990 were different from everyone that was born after that, because we see that most of the people of our age (we were 16 back then) just wanted to get drunk , do drugs, basically to fit in , without caring for their own being, nor anything that existed that didn't had to do with daily life .

People nowadays ,believe only in what is common knowledge, like religion, no one states how stupid it sounds , but they laugh when someone talks about aliens or other types of spiritualism, but I think mankind was always like this, there were always the kind of people weren't one of the "sheep" even if they acted like it, and the proof of that are all the great men that existed, from scientists, revolutionaries and even those with evil intents.
Rosewin
Interesting perspective Oblivion especially that you and your friends saw the futility of partying.

Here are some links Aanica but there is much conflicting information regarding all three terms and some mix them all as one:

Brad Steiger's attributed certain traits regarding star seeds:

http://www.crystalinks.com/starseeds.html

http://www.geocities.com/manuela_standing_...tar_People.html

Brief information regarding the 1980s generation...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/...ia_indigo10.htm

Article by Doreen Virtue who states that Crystal Children were born starting in 1996.

http://www.thecrystalchildren.com/crystal.html

An interview with Doreen Virture regarding crystals.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQAd3FxKVUY



John A Spera
QUOTE (Aanica @ Jun 19 2008, 11:40 PM) *


It looks like there is a lot of pratical information from this link. I will look at it more extensively.

I have my own understanding about time lines. Since the harmonic convergance in 1987 there has been different perception potentials with our children. Those that were born since 1990 have a discernment potential that is greater than those born prior to that time. I was born in 1943 with very specific potentials to assist humanity at this time. I think time lines are relative.

For those born after 1989-1990 there are potentials for greater awareness. The actual % of kids that embrace this is much smaller than the numbers quoted, as I understand it. What the adult world does not appreciate is that ADD type kids are that way for a reason. The number of children with autism and all the other various kinds of learning disabilities can be clasified as special. They are messengers with a message about our educational pratices among other things. They are gifts to humanity that go unrecognized because they bring to light various problems.

As I see it every person has a mission and a purpose. It has always been that way and it will always be that way. Most of the time the mission or purpose is not appreciated.

May I ask Aanica what has promped your interest in this subject.

John



Aanica
QUOTE (John A Spera @ Jun 20 2008, 04:28 PM) *
It looks like there is a lot of pratical information from this link. I will look at it more extensively.

I have my own understanding about time lines. Since the harmonic convergance in 1987 there has been different perception potentials with our children. Those that were born since 1990 have a discernment potential that is greater than those born prior to that time. I was born in 1943 with very specific potentials to assist humanity at this time. I think time lines are relative.

For those born after 1989-1990 there are potentials for greater awareness. The actual % of kids that embrace this is much smaller than the numbers quoted, as I understand it. What the adult world does not appreciate is that ADD type kids are that way for a reason. The number of children with autism and all the other various kinds of learning disabilities can be clasified as special. They are messengers with a message about our educational pratices among other things. They are gifts to humanity that go unrecognized because they bring to light various problems.

As I see it every person has a mission and a purpose. It has always been that way and it will always be that way. Most of the time the mission or purpose is not appreciated.

May I ask Aanica what has promped your interest in this subject.

John
Yes, I would be glad to tell you I have a four year old that fits this profile to a tee, his being special promted me to have risk assessment tests done by our school board, I wanted as any parent would, to see if there were any problems that needed addressed his scores were high in every area but just learns differently he can see something and know how it goes togeather without being told but shows signs of ADD there are certin schools that are recomended such as montersouri that deal with "indigo" type of children they tend to be emotionally and socialy different that what the norm used to be, They are I believe the new normal.
Shankpin
Imo, if kids are showing these superior traits, I think it's largely due to our advancing technology- (I mean, it's amazing what a 2 year old can do on one of those XBOXs.. geez.) Better nutrition during pregnancies, knowledge that is widely and easily more obtainable than what it was, let's say, 30 years ago.. (computers, etc,.) all of this has something to do with it..
I don't necessarily believe there is anything to the "indigo children" theory.. just our advancement in technology & it's access to today's kids.
Aanica
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Jun 20 2008, 08:40 PM) *
Imo, if kids are showing these superior traits, I think it's largely due to our advancing technology- (I mean, it's amazing what a 2 year old can do on one of those XBOXs.. geez.) Better nutrition during pregnancies, knowledge that is widely and easily more obtainable than what it was, let's say, 30 years ago.. (computers, etc,.) all of this has something to do with it..
I don't necessarily believe there is anything to the "indigo children" theory.. just our advancement in technology & it's access to today's kids.
I agree with you on this. most certin with exposure to technology such as today, they seem to be above the criteria we judge our own self by, this is as normal to them as cassette tapes used to be to us, but there is something above and beyond in some children that stand out I have an article if you don't mind to take a look at, the Highly Sensitive person,by Elaine Aron...there are similaritys to what they label as indingo

http://www.hsperson.com/




Thanks Aanica
puridalan
Okay, I have myself been termed indigo by some, but I do not think in any way that makes you 'better' or 'special' than any other human beings. I mean I guess if you wanted to really catergorize us that could be loads of fun! hahaha...though I will admit some of us that are 'termed' that have a certain emm 'trait' to us emotionally that I have seen with other 'indigos'...and you can tell right away based on their facial expressions...or at least I think so. But basing like someones life off of 'indigo', it is really stupid at least in my opinion, it never changed who I was.
puridalan
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Jun 21 2008, 02:40 AM) *
Imo, if kids are showing these superior traits, I think it's largely due to our advancing technology- (I mean, it's amazing what a 2 year old can do on one of those XBOXs.. geez.) Better nutrition during pregnancies, knowledge that is widely and easily more obtainable than what it was, let's say, 30 years ago.. (computers, etc,.) all of this has something to do with it..
I don't necessarily believe there is anything to the "indigo children" theory.. just our advancement in technology & it's access to today's kids.


Actually, I don't think technology if anything has helped make 'indigo' children, if anything we are more sensative due to the dangers of such things in order to help protect future generations and change the way we use technology, I really hate using a lot of it...because of what I feel negative from it such as smelling dull odors, that drive me crazy that are from our 'advancements'. I mean sure we've come a long way, but it hasn't all gone uphill...and I think society tries to fool itself sometimes in that technology is the answer for greatness when it clearly isn't.
Shankpin
QUOTE (puridalan @ Jun 20 2008, 10:22 PM) *
Actually, I don't think technology if anything has helped make 'indigo' children, if anything we are more sensative due to the dangers of such things in order to help protect future generations and change the way we use technology, I really hate using a lot of it...because of what I feel negative from it such as smelling dull odors, that drive me crazy that are from our 'advancements'. I mean sure we've come a long way, but it hasn't all gone uphill...and I think society tries to fool itself sometimes in that technology is the answer for greatness when it clearly isn't.


UMM, I never said modern technology was a "Great" thing, that I recall!! I said it can/has improve/ed I.Qs compared to previous generations- Which, in turn, makes it seem that the newer generations of kids are more intelligent.

puridalan
QUOTE (Aanica @ Jun 21 2008, 02:14 AM) *
Yes, I would be glad to tell you I have a four year old that fits this profile to a tee, his being special promted me to have risk assessment tests done by our school board, I wanted as any parent would, to see if there were any problems that needed addressed his scores were high in every area but just learns differently he can see something and know how it goes togeather without being told but shows signs of ADD there are certin schools that are recomended such as montersouri that deal with "indigo" type of children they tend to be emotionally and socialy different that what the norm used to be, They are I believe the new normal.


I do not think you should baby an 'indigo' child, I am highly emotionally intutive, but in NO WAY should I recieve special care because of this, you have to let your child feel this negativity you cannot 'baby them'. If you try to shield them, how can they shield theirselves. I was never good at keeping a lot of friends because I always read 'too much' into what they were thinking, but guess what I also learned that if someone doesn't like you than you probably shouldn't be wasting your time around them anyways. I do not believe that ADD children should recieve any other benefits as well, I am dyslexic but not once did I even suggest to anyone that I should use that (even when I was in 2nd grade) as an excuse to do poorly, and most said no just because I was an all A student.

We are 'socially' different, and times WILL be hard, but if they cannot learn to be tolerable of others opinions, whether critical or not, how can they live in such a world? Being a loving parent is a wonderful thing, but you also must show your kid discpline and try to sometimes 'down tone' even how you think about your own child. There is never going to be a 'new normal' and people are saying that there are more and more indigo children, but I have not seen this to be the case at all...and still only find it in certain people, which is not based off of any set 'item'.
puridalan
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Jun 21 2008, 03:27 AM) *
UMM, I never said modern technology was a "Great" thing, that I recall!! I said it can/has improve/ed I.Qs compared to previous generations- Which, in turn, makes it seem that the newer generations of kids are more intelligent.



I have to disagree in that 'newer generations' are automatically more intelligent, so what they might know how to work a computer and yes I will agree that in some areas we have advanced such as in math and some of the core classes. Though 'newer generations' have also lost a lot of intelligence and and IQ score as you know doesn't always prove intelligence for it has various definitions in life.
Shankpin
QUOTE (puridalan @ Jun 20 2008, 10:13 PM) *
Okay, I have myself been termed indigo by some, but I do not think in any way that makes you 'better' or 'special' than any other human beings. I mean I guess if you wanted to really catergorize us that could be loads of fun! hahaha...though I will admit some of us that are 'termed' that have a certain emm 'trait' to us emotionally that I have seen with other 'indigos'...and you can tell right away based on their facial expressions...or at least I think so. But basing like someones life off of 'indigo', it is really stupid at least in my opinion, it never changed who I was.

Well, I'm curious, what are these traits you have that have "some" term you INDIGO?
Asphodel
I'm sorry for being a royal a** about this yesterday. I didn't feel good. I keep getting awful headaches, and I just can't tolerate them. dontgetit.gif

I do have to respect my neighbor in that she didn't just base her assumption of me being Indigo on nothing. I do share virtually every trait, except for ADHD. I do have OCD and another "problem", though. I'm also likely be diagnosed with a mild ASD if taken to a doctor. That is unnecessary to me. I am myself, and that's all there is to it. It can't be changed, and I'm not going to waste money in an attempt to.
I think its dangerous for these parents to deny any medical diagnosis, especially for a disorder so potentially life threatening as Bipolar Disorder, in favor of Indigo. To me, that's sheer ignorance and I abhor it. Indigo (IMO) is a modern excuse for the very real biological problems that many children face. It only acts to strengthen the stigmas that many with mental illness already struggle to live with.
I'm sure someone will say that mental illness is grossly misdiagnosed, especially in children, but I don't think thats necessarily so. I do think that medication is used when it doesn't necessarily have to be. Dietary and behavioral adjustments can drastically help a child with ADHD, without any medicinal intervention. Properly medicating a Bipolar child is very difficult and disheartening, and can take many tries to get right, but is very necessary in most cases.
Saying that your child is Indigo, regardless of the child's diagnosis, because medication didn't work initially, is ridiculous and dangerous in some cases. But it sure does feel better to a parent to be able to say their child is special rather than ill, doesn't it?
I'm not saying that this can be said about all children. I'm only talking about an aspect of Indigo that I can't stand.

http://indigolifecenter.wordpress.com/2008...ndigo-children/
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My son is on bipoer medicine. Should he be taken off it? He has tried to kill himself several times. he lives with my mother and he is 18 yrs old. He has closed himself off from our family. I really want a relationship with him.


That is a comment at the bottom of the site. Can you imagine the consequences of the guy being taken off of his medications, considering his suicidal tendancies and diagnosis? I hope that wasn't serious. If it is, I don't even want to imagine how many parents have sought alternative help and failed miserably, or lost their child. sad.gif
Shankpin
You have brought up such an excellent point, Asphodel!

John A Spera
QUOTE (Aanica @ Jun 20 2008, 10:14 PM) *
Yes, I would be glad to tell you I have a four year old that fits this profile to a tee, his being special promted me to have risk assessment tests done by our school board, I wanted as any parent would, to see if there were any problems that needed addressed his scores were high in every area but just learns differently he can see something and know how it goes togeather without being told but shows signs of ADD there are certin schools that are recomended such as montersouri that deal with "indigo" type of children they tend to be emotionally and socialy different that what the norm used to be, They are I believe the new normal.


My son Mike was diagnosed ADD. It was very hard to get him through high school even with medication. I remember when he fluncked a term in computer science. He has exceptional skills in that area. When I asked him why he failed this class he told me it was because the computer project he was assigned was silly so he did not do the assignment and got his zero. Another time he wanted to take a creative writing class but was not allowed to take that class because his grades were poor. As a result I enrolled hin in a creative writing class outside the school system. I had to sign a paper that stated that this extra work would not interfear with his regular classes. It did not and he found his way to the honor's english class in his last year of high school.

Now that he is out of school he does not need medication. He never did go on to higher education. He is very smart and works hard but does not fit the profile of a good student. He is motivated by his desires and not by the standards I saw when I attended high school. I have the gift of dyslexia. I did poorly in school until my senior year. My learning profile was different.

The public school system has not changed or adjusted their profile of a good student in the last 60 years. As a result many parents are confronted with the circumstances you have mentioned. The term "indigo child" may or may not reflect the type of child you have. I am not fond of labels. With every label comes a set of assumptions based on very wide ranges of subjective views and experiences. Just look at all the views that have surfaced in this thread.

As I see it, your 4 year old fits the description, along with many others, of a child that would suffer from a public school education. The real question here is what does he/she really want to do as far as an educational experience is concerned. You were selected to be the parent so I suspect your choice is what the child would want for themself. It normally works that way. I mention this because I know of a child who wants to be a system buster. That is another story and another circumstance.

Trust that what you want for your child is what the child would want until the child indicates otherwise. Use your discernment and your heart to determine these things. I hope my thoughts on this matter have been helpful.

John



Asphodel
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Jun 20 2008, 11:53 PM) *
You have brought up such an excellent point, Asphodel!


Thank you.
Aanica
QUOTE (John A Spera @ Jun 20 2008, 11:04 PM) *
My son Mike was diagnosed ADD. It was very hard to get him through high school even with medication. I remember when he fluncked a term in computer science. He has exceptional skills in that area. When I asked him why he failed this class he told me it was because the computer project he was assigned was silly so he did not do the assignment and got his zero. Another time he wanted to take a creative writing class but was not allowed to take that class because his grades were poor. As a result I enrolled hin in a creative writing class outside the school system. I had to sign a paper that stated that this extra work would not interfear with his regular classes. It did not and he found his way to the honor's english class in his last year of high school.

Now that he is out of school he does not need medication. He never did go on to higher education. He is very smart and works hard but does not fit the profile of a good student. He is motivated by his desires and not by the standards I saw when I attended high school. I have the gift of dyslexia. I did poorly in school until my senior year. My learning profile was different.

The public school system has not changed or adjusted their profile of a good student in the last 60 years. As a result many parents are confronted with the circumstances you have mentioned. The term "indigo child" may or may not reflect the type of child you have. I am not fond of labels. With every label comes a set of assumptions based on very wide ranges of subjective views and experiences. Just look at all the views that have surfaced in this thread.

As I see it, your 4 year old fits the description, along with many others, of a child that would suffer from a public school education. The real question here is what does he/she really want to do as far as an educational experience is concerned. You were selected to be the parent so I suspect your choice is what the child would want for themself. It normally works that way. I mention this because I know of a child who wants to be a system buster. That is another story and another circumstance.

Trust that what you want for your child is what the child would want until the child indicates otherwise. Use your discernment and your heart to determine these things. I hope my thoughts on this matter have been helpful.

John
Most Certinly, Thank you.
Affliction
I think it's pretty clear that this is a social/cultural phenomena as opposed to a spiritual phenomena.
Oblivion
But even with the technology nowadays, that doesn't make everyone more aware, there are lots of programs that promote vanity and carelessness for everything that is beyond daily life, for example MTV, their programs teach nothing but vanity, and many people just go by it and the fads they give. I agree the media, tv , internet are all great instruction methods, but its a method that instructs you with what you're looking for.
Affliction
Well I agree with you for the most part, but with these values becoming such a strong part of our culture it's bound to encourage a strong reaction from a counter-culture of sorts, I can certainly identify with seeing the characteristics listed emerging particularly in people who were born post-60's and 70's but I think that has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of the intellectual movements popularized around this very time also reinforce a lot of the characteristics and values of so called 'indigo children'.
The Skeptic Eric Raven
QUOTE (InHuman @ Jun 19 2008, 11:11 PM) *
Kidna up in the air this myth. There's nothing substantial behind it, just people wanting "special" children.

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Parents with a need for their children to be special. Its rather pathetic and could be damaging to the children in the long run. Making them believe they are superbeings when in reality they could just be ADD.
Primeval
QUOTE (ambelamba @ Jun 19 2008, 08:13 PM) *
I found a better explanation. Don't get offendend.

Indigo Children




Probably not a good idea linking to ae... 


Rosewin
...i thought the same, not the kind of material that is suitable for this forum, regardless the humor of many of its articles, it is not humor that should be shared here.
puridalan
QUOTE (Shankpin @ Jun 21 2008, 03:32 AM) *
Well, I'm curious, what are these traits you have that have "some" term you INDIGO?



You know what's funny is that most people automaically just called me that, when at first I had no clue what indigo meant, some told me it was because of my natural presence (which I know sounds stupid), strong empathy, exact memory for past events, and OCD. I finally had a spect scan and it showed that I had OCD and anxiety 100 times that of a normal person. Note I do not have OCD like a normal person that opens a door twenty times or washes their hands till they are raw, no my OCD is that I analyze some of my thoughts over and over and over so much that it might make some crazy...but no one knew that till I got the scan and no it has never affected me. I refuse to take medication, same for my anxiety because I felt others emotions constantly even while sleeping you can see where I would get this from...a type of suppression. I have faught with this for a while, but I always seem to have a 'energetic' spirit around others...because I know how to play to the audience, though people are great for balancing yourself out at times...but that is another story.

I mean like I said it isn't boom a definition, I am a person and so what if people have called me this, it's nothing to me
Rosewin
Hmm you would be the first person I have ever heard that strongly identifies with the term. I also over analyze my thoughts and find it hard to sleep because it is so hard to shut down my mind. Some dreams are have are not visual, those are more rare, but mainly the processing of information, and it is involuntarily I will just wake up in the middle of the night or towards the morning and find myself thinking over many concepts, if the middle of the night I try and go back to sleep which I usually can. Maybe this is more common than suspected?
DellusionalMirror
i'm really not sure, but i think i might be an indigo child i've had alot of strange occurences recently with stuff like extra sensory perception. i've taken several tests, one of them deciding that i read at a 11th grade level in 3rd grade.
Asphodel
QUOTE (DellusionalMirror @ Jun 22 2008, 05:25 AM) *
i'm really not sure, but i think i might be an indigo child i've had alot of strange occurences recently with stuff like extra sensory perception. i've taken several tests, one of them deciding that i read at a 11th grade level in 3rd grade.


My sister somehow managed that, and she can't read or even write worth a damn. laugh.gif
It makes me wonder. It really makes me wonder. *ponders*

I fit the Indigo description perfectly, but I can not and will not apply the term to myself. I still can't even believe it.
I analyze my thoughts similarly to puridalan. It affects me, though. It can be very hard to sleep. My mind wont shut down, and I'll wake like Clovis. Aside from thinking, I get memories stuck in my mind that I'll analyze over and over again, against my will. It can be particularly difficult because the memories are vivid, and I have to literally feel all over again. These memories are awful sometimes. Just awful. Clovis, my mother does the same thing. I'm guessing it is more common than suspected.
Flop
Every mom says that their kid is an indigo child. My mom even said that I was one. If 95% of kids are... then I really don't find it to be such a big deal, and just wonder about those who arn't. These days, we have very young kids able to do many things... have you seen a five year old work a computer? It sounds like a disaster (I just keep thinking of a sticky keyboard...eww), but actually they're quite adept. With all the technology becoming so much apart of daily life, maybe they've just adapted to it and things?

I know that up until I was about fifteen, I couldn't go to the mall. I would walk around, and start having panic attacks, and would cry. I couldn't breathe, and would go through like eight emotions at once. Most of the time I would have to hide in a corner of a big store (I remember the kitchen section of like, JC Penny or something.) and slowly calm down. I hated it. Still now, I can only go to small malls, and when I do I need to have a very laid back friend, and an urge to shop. Mom thought that I was feeling everyone there. I don't know what to think. Also, I have ADD and OCD. I scored like high 130's on an IQ test when I was in elementary school. And yet... I really don't care. Indigo kids just seems like a way for people to make money.

And that, my friends, is my 2 cents. ^^
John A Spera
I was once tested and classified as introspective. So I think that self reflection and thought analysis is or can be very empowering.

From what I gather by the various comments, this process has not been as productive for others as it has been for me. The reason I suspect is that it is not commonly recognized that we have distinct aspects within the self. I go into this in more detail at my web site.

When we examine our thoughts there is an energetic intent. This motivation creates an energy and a very specific outcome potential. It is the reason why we seek better understanding that determines what we discover about our thoughts.

I would also like to mention that in my view most people do not think - they react. Almost everyone who looks at their thoughts has the desire to think more productively and as a result are much more conscious than most people. Every person, even the non-reflective reactors, are gifts to humanity in ways that can not be appreciated. Everyone is a gift of love. I can see how powerful each person is even if they can not see this in themself.

I suspect I understand about 2% of what I would like to know about this subject. It is not even a core 2% but more like disconnected fragments of understanding. Since life is a game of sorts, this is ok with me. I like to have fun with my process as much as I can.

As I see it, the label Indigo/Crystal/Star-Seed is not helpful. In a given moment, how confident are we that we can make our best choice. That is where the power is IMO.

John


Sockmonster

This is very interesting ... personally think that all that New Age stuff seems a bit airy fairy to me ... having said that my two year old daughter (very bright for her age - thats true not me just bein a proud parent - but it's obvious why - she has a bright Mummy LOL) fits the whole description given by Wikipedia. However I loved the link to Encylcopedia dramatica (and in fact i am off to look up more stuff on that just for a chuckle - and I think that describes Stick (nickname!!) very very very well!!!!!

Lol.

Also fair play to the nopw adult Indigo kids out there who are avoiding the whole drink/drugs etc lifestyle - we need you for our future!!

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Aanica
QUOTE (Clovis @ Jun 22 2008, 04:51 AM) *
Hmm you would be the first person I have ever heard that strongly identifies with the term. I also over analyze my thoughts and find it hard to sleep because it is so hard to shut down my mind. Some dreams are have are not visual, those are more rare, but mainly the processing of information, and it is involuntarily I will just wake up in the middle of the night or towards the morning and find myself thinking over many concepts, if the middle of the night I try and go back to sleep which I usually can. Maybe this is more common than suspected?
I am curious how do you achieve sleep? I have the same problem quieting my mind I use the T.V to help me by focusing on the sound so my mind settles.
Atheist God
QUOTE (Aanica @ Jun 22 2008, 06:25 PM) *
I am curious how do you achieve sleep? I have the same problem quieting my mind I use the T.V to help me by focusing on the sound so my mind settles.


I use a certain plant which cannot be mentioned here to cure my insomnia when it occurs.

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In regards to this indigo child thing I think the root cause for parents to say their kids are indigo kids is simple, they want their kids to be unique and special from every other kid out there.

Those who sell books and what not who talk about this make their bread by playing off of the mindset of parents clearly who want their kids to be more then they appear to be.

It is clear to me that there is no such thing as an indigo child... Unless proven otherwise of course.
iSeeDeadPpl!
Indigo Children haven't been making alot of noise these days...
LadyHay
I think more and more parents are New Agers than in the past or say, when I was growing up. Therefore, there has to be a new age way to explain why these kids are so developed. My kids know my beliefs, and a lot of my personal thoughts because I share with them probably more than my parents shared with me.

I agree completely with Flop's assessment on part of why kids seem advanced. I have four kids, and my two oldest were exposed to a computer when they were 4 and 2. Now my two youngest have been using the computer since age 2ish. They can do most anything basic.

Nothing Indigo here. I admit I was excited at first to discover why one of my kids was showing certain tendencies. Now I know that it is ADHD and things are so much better now that we are getting better ways to deal with these issues. Indigo wouldn't have helped us.
puridalan
First off I already know the drug that you are using haha weed, and in all honesty it is probably less harmful than a lot of the sleeping prescription drugs they try to pull out there...as I've been given multiple narcotics in which weed seems like cotton candy.

As for indigo children being saints...ha-ha I don't know what bs someone is feeding you, I know an 'indigo' child and in no way is she a saint, sure she can read people's emotions like I can wonderfully but that gives her NO reason to act like a 'pouter' around others to get her way. Sure it's hard, but being a 'term' gives you no write to be 'better' than the rest of the race. Like I said the term means nothing to me, sure I have extra sensory perception proved by neurologists and allergy doctors themselves, but that doesn't make me superhuman.

So, what if you were reading on a 11th grade level at 3rd, they thought I would never read, but one day I just started away like it was nothing, it's all a part of life and we each have our weakness...but trying to make your strengths into something 'magical' when it isn't is actually I find rude and a bit disturbing.


As for 'reviewing' my thoughts it is because yes PART of me wants to find the 'meaning' the substance, sure I can read and write...but that is nothing without the pure energy of the connection you share with others and your environment. I realized that I never wanted to work in an office, because I was a 'hands on type of person'.

I liked to learn languages not for the words, but the meaning in the words that connected me with people around the world, the smile on their faces when I used their language was priceless...understanding people makes the difference
John A Spera
QUOTE (puridalan @ Jun 22 2008, 09:44 PM) *
So, what if you were reading on a 11th grade level at 3rd, they thought I would never read, but one day I just started away like it was nothing, it's all a part of life and we each have our weakness...but trying to make your strengths into something 'magical' when it isn't is actually I find rude and a bit disturbing.


I am sorry you find these things rude and a bit disturbing. In most instances I think a person with different skills wants to understand more about their particular potentials. It is like a responsability for some to be the best that they can be. We all have different strengths and areas of weakness as you mentioned.

I see each of us as magical, in different ways naturally.

John

Rosewin
QUOTE (Asphodel @ Jun 22 2008, 09:41 AM) *
My sister somehow managed that, and she can't read or even write worth a damn. laugh.gif
It makes me wonder. It really makes me wonder. *ponders*

I fit the Indigo description perfectly, but I can not and will not apply the term to myself. I still can't even believe it.
I analyze my thoughts similarly to puridalan. It affects me, though. It can be very hard to sleep. My mind wont shut down, and I'll wake like Clovis. Aside from thinking, I get memories stuck in my mind that I'll analyze over and over again, against my will. It can be particularly difficult because the memories are vivid, and I have to literally feel all over again. These memories are awful sometimes. Just awful. Clovis, my mother does the same thing. I'm guessing it is more common than suspected.


I would have to speak to my mother who is also an insomniac. Maybe it is inherited? But I do think that our dreams our manifestations of our waking hours. So if we are in constant thinking mode awake this would then extend itself to our nonvisual dreams. Not sure if anything how this might be related to information overload since this is not directly the classic definition of information overload. Over analyzation of anything definitely falls into that category though. It seems that one adverse effect might lend itself to other adverse affects at least under the classical definition of information overload which is just having available 'too much information to make a decision or remain informed about a topic.'

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An article in the New Scientist magazine claimed that exposing individuals to an information overloaded environment resulted in lower IQ scores than exposing individuals to marijuana[4], although these results are contested[5]. The same article also notes that a night without sleep can be as debilitating as over-exposure to information.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_o...logical_Effects

So if over analyzing something can have the same effect as going a night without sleep then how worse shall it be to actually go without sleep or just sleep for a few hours?

QUOTE (Flop @ Jun 22 2008, 10:54 AM) *
Every mom says that their kid is an indigo child. My mom even said that I was one. If 95% of kids are... then I really don't find it to be such a big deal, and just wonder about those who arn't. These days, we have very young kids able to do many things... have you seen a five year old work a computer? It sounds like a disaster (I just keep thinking of a sticky keyboard...eww), but actually they're quite adept. With all the technology becoming so much apart of daily life, maybe they've just adapted to it and things?

I know that up until I was about fifteen, I couldn't go to the mall. I would walk around, and start having panic attacks, and would cry. I couldn't breathe, and would go through like eight emotions at once. Most of the time I would have to hide in a corner of a big store (I remember the kitchen section of like, JC Penny or something.) and slowly calm down. I hated it. Still now, I can only go to small malls, and when I do I need to have a very laid back friend, and an urge to shop. Mom thought that I was feeling everyone there. I don't know what to think. Also, I have ADD and OCD. I scored like high 130's on an IQ test when I was in elementary school. And yet... I really don't care. Indigo kids just seems like a way for people to make money.

And that, my friends, is my 2 cents. ^^


Every mother thinks their child is special but to the rest of the world lol they might think otherwise...

...it sounds perhaps like you are an empath. I know I have a light touch of it but not the point where it becomes debilitating. But being around crowds, like in a grocery store, especially when everyone is in their own little world, going through their own emotions or thoughts, it does take a toll on me, it drains me of energy. But if I am in a crowd where everyone is on the same page, like a big party, and interacting with everyone, it can provide me energy and make me feel more alive. But on the topic of pure empathy it is just the quality of being able to put yourself in someone else's shoes and feel their emotions but perhaps it lends itself to actually sharing that emotion. So in a crowded place where everyone has their own set of emotions, none the same, it is a form of emotion overload.

Ahh the kitchen appliance section of stores like JC Penney, Montgomery Ward or Sears is almost like a sanctuary. I know exactly what you mean. Best Buy and the like do not have the same quality in their kitchen appliance sections. And when you mentioned it I can vividly sense being there, the floor, the aisles, the lights above. It is the same in most of the store but they all somehow seem different there. I know when I used to meet girls at the mall it was one of the places we could go into just to have conversations that allowed for greater connection.

QUOTE (Aanica @ Jun 22 2008, 06:25 PM) *
I am curious how do you achieve sleep? I have the same problem quieting my mind I use the T.V to help me by focusing on the sound so my mind settles.


I have tried many things. Chamomile tea is one of the first things my father suggested as a teen. I used to need the radio to go to sleep. My wife needs the TV. As an adult though I learned in the last few years only how to simply shut my mind off. It is not always successful and sometimes I just fall asleep thinking but if I know I have to go to sleep at a certain time I have sometimes been able just to forcefully shut my mind down. It is hard to explain but it is like I can imagine a certain energy washing over me from my head down to my chest out through my hands and into the rest of my body. Then in waves at first in two second intervals continue the same energy which slowly grow into longer intervals into I no longer need to generate those waves. I am sure the waves are a certain frequency though I do not know which but it is very calming.

QUOTE (Evil Dick @ Jun 22 2008, 06:48 PM) *
I use a certain plant which cannot be mentioned here to cure my insomnia when it occurs.

==

In regards to this indigo child thing I think the root cause for parents to say their kids are indigo kids is simple, they want their kids to be unique and special from every other kid out there.

Those who sell books and what not who talk about this make their bread by playing off of the mindset of parents clearly who want their kids to be more then they appear to be.

It is clear to me that there is no such thing as an indigo child... Unless proven otherwise of course.


I do believe there is such a thing as indigo children. It might be over diagnosed, not that it is a diagnosis but you get my point, and well maybe it is just a product of earth aka Gaea. The way I see it is that everyone has a purpose in life and it can at times be difficult to realize it. As far as the few indigos that do exists, and maybe they are more in number now, but their purpose is to help about the earth changes, to help stop the dangers and peril we now face collectively because we are destroying the earth, we have to adapt or die out as a species and take out other species with us. Self-regulation of Gaea.

Now it should be made clear that the spiritual component of it all is not something I necessarily agree with but I do understand it.

QUOTE (puridalan @ Jun 22 2008, 08:44 PM) *
First off I already know the drug that you are using haha weed, and in all honesty it is probably less harmful than a lot of the sleeping prescription drugs they try to pull out there...as I've been given multiple narcotics in which weed seems like cotton candy.

As for indigo children being saints...ha-ha I don't know what bs someone is feeding you, I know an 'indigo' child and in no way is she a saint, sure she can read people's emotions like I can wonderfully but that gives her NO reason to act like a 'pouter' around others to get her way. Sure it's hard, but being a 'term' gives you no write to be 'better' than the rest of the race. Like I said the term means nothing to me, sure I have extra sensory perception proved by neurologists and allergy doctors themselves, but that doesn't make me superhuman.

So, what if you were reading on a 11th grade level at 3rd, they thought I would never read, but one day I just started away like it was nothing, it's all a part of life and we each have our weakness...but trying to make your strengths into something 'magical' when it isn't is actually I find rude and a bit disturbing.


As for 'reviewing' my thoughts it is because yes PART of me wants to find the 'meaning' the substance, sure I can read and write...but that is nothing without the pure energy of the connection you share with others and your environment. I realized that I never wanted to work in an office, because I was a 'hands on type of person'.

I liked to learn languages not for the words, but the meaning in the words that connected me with people around the world, the smile on their faces when I used their language was priceless...understanding people makes the difference


This just goes to prove that you cannot please an indigo no matter how you try and go about it.

About language though your assessment is something I can understand. Words are magical, they connect people, and when you learn words in another language you somehow are able to connect to other people on their terms. It is so sad when a people and a language go extinct. Some concepts, feelings, understanding, are simply lost and certain words and concepts cannot be translated into another language. This is why I have always been interested in learning other languages even if it has only resulted in learning a few phrases so far >_<
ambelamba
All of you guys who really believe BS like Indigo Children should read this.

Indigo Children are....TARDS.

What those 'Indigo Children' need is good beating by baseball bat.
chim chiminey
QUOTE (ambelamba @ Jun 23 2008, 07:16 PM) *
All of you guys who really believe BS like Indigo Children should read this.

Indigo Children are....TARDS.

What those 'Indigo Children' need is good beating by baseball bat.


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To any parent out there who believes they have an Indigo child, I suggest wailing the kid's *** when they misbehave. Keep this up for about a week and see just how indigo the kid is - if anything, the only thing that will be indigo is their *** from getting spanked so often. Believe me, it will do them more good than harm in the long run when Junior is graduating high school rather than serving a life sentence for murdering his entire class.


Sorry, but

LMFAO

so true in 99% of the cases.

A truly evolved soul would respond to conflict with an advanced wisdom and diplomacy, not a tantrum.
A tantrum would only be necessary as an act to get people to listen to the wisdom, like a Jesus beating the sh*t out of the money-changers in the temple.

Whenever someone tells me I'm Indigo, I ask myself what they want from me by the flattery. Most often it's $$$. "Take this class or that one."
The spiritual community by and large has completely sold out.
Aanica
[quote name='ambelamba' date='Jun 23 2008, 06:16 PM' post='2358262']
All of you guys who really believe BS like Indigo Children should read this.

Indigo Children are....TARDS.

What those 'Indigo Children' need is good beating by baseball bat.

WOW YOU MUST HATE EVERYBODY sounds like a personal problem.... devil.gif gunsmilie.gif devil.gif hope your still not in high school you could be dangerous
oh yea LMFAO At You
(SG)Max
QUOTE (Aanica @ Jun 20 2008, 11:40 AM) *
Today I began to read up on Indigo Children I find the traits facinating and supriseingly accurate to behaviors described, I am wondering if anyone else has indigo children or shares this point to be a valid mark in evaloution? I have included three articles with various descriptions for a varied point of view.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/12/fashion/...s/12INDIGO.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigo_children


http://www.namastecafe.com/evolution/indigo/reality.htm


PS: sorry about the spelling I ment Indigo not the Indingo...oops blush.gif

Basically , I think indigo children are jus a stupid group of smarter , probably higher IQ ppl
Rosewin
Diane Sawyer's ABC News segment on Indigos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZwyiy90X2I

A pretty lengthy production in seven parts regarding Indigos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utjdoNhBZsg



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