QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 09:36 PM)

WOW, this thread has to be the biggest case of quote-mining I've ever come across. Like, seriously, WOW. Einstein did not believe in God. That's it. There's nothing more to it. There's no "well, he said such-and-such....".
Well, has anyone read any further than Einstein's most often quoted quote? Because he has quite a bit to say about "religion" as it is commonly used and how people like to make it seem how he was using it.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
Andddd, more quotes on religion by Einstein:
"I am a deeply religious nonbeliever. This is a somewhat new kind of religion."
"I have never imputed Nature a purpose or goal, or anything that could be understood as anthropomorphic. What I see in Nature is a magnificent structure that we can comprehend only very imperfectly, and that must fill a thinking person with a feeling of humility. This is a genuinely religious feeling that has nothing to do with mysticism."
"The idea of a personal God is quite alien to me and seems even naive."
We can clearly see that Einstein's "religion" is simply a metaphor for the intricate, currently incomprehensionable interworkings of the universe. He uses religious terms not in their literal meaning, but in a complex emotional, philosophical, and scientific jargon that religious people are keen to jump on in any situation. Simply put, Einstein is NOT using terms like "God", "religion", or "spirituality" in religious ways. He isn't. End of story.
He did not believe in a personal God, but he did believe in God himself. There's many sources in which Einstein believed actually very strongly in him.
The Encyclopedia Britannica says of him: "Firmly denying atheism, Einstein expressed a belief in "Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the harmony of what exists." This actually motivated his interest in science, as he once remarked to a young physicist: "I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details." Einstein's famous epithet on the "uncertainty principle" was "God does not play dice" - and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
There's even a book telling you how Einstein was Atheist and changed into a strong-believing deist.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/0061335290?tag=sa...p;link_code=as3The quotes he used stating his beliefs in Agnosticism was before he believed in God. You can't use those.