In exclusive video, Barry Jennings discusses explosions in Building 7 before collapse of twin towers and seeing dead bodies lying around the lobby http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRaKHq2dfCI...dead_bodies.htm

Paul Joseph Watson
Monday, June 23, 2008

Exclusive video of emergency official Barry Jennings discussing explosions inside WTC 7 before either of the twin towers had collapsed and having to step over dead bodies of victims as he attempted to vacate the building has been released for the first time.

The clip, which was originally intended to feature in Loose Change Final Cut but had to be withdrawn according to Jennings' wishes after he had received threats, has now been made public in anticipation of a BBC documentary about Building 7 which is expected to skew Jennings' account in an attempt to reinforce the official story.

What Jennings witnessed completely contradicts the official story of what happened to Building 7.

On the morning of 9/11 in his capacity as Deputy Director, Emergency Services Department, New York City Housing Authority, Jennings and Michael Hess, who is a founding Partner and Senior Managing Director of Giuliani Partners LLC, visited the Office of Emergency Management inside Building 7 only to find it had been abandoned.

"Upon arriving into the OEM EOC, we noticed that everybody was gone," said Jennings. "I saw coffee that was on the desk, the smoke was still coming off the coffee, I saw half-eaten sandwiches," he stated, adding that he and Hess were told to leave the building right away.

Jennings and Hess found a stairwell and descended the stairs.

"When we reached the 6th floor the landing that we were standing on gave way, there was an explosion and the landing gave way, I was left there hanging, I had to climb back up and walk back up to the 8th floor," said Jennings.

"The explosion was beneath me....so when the explosion happened it blew us back....both buildings (the twin towers) were still standing," he added.

"I was trapped in there for several hours, I was trapped in there when both buildings came down - all this time I'm hearing all kinds of explosions, all this time I'm hearing explosions, said Jennings, adding that when firefighters took them down to the lobby it was in "total ruins".

"For me to see what I saw was unbelievable," said Jennings.

The firefighters kept saying to Jennings "do not look down" because, according to Jennings, "we were stepping over people and you can tell when you're stepping over people."

A police officer then told Jennings, "you will have to run because we have reports of more explosions."

"I'm just confused about one thing....why World Trade Center 7 went down in the first place - I'm very confused about that - I know what I heard I heard explosions," said Jennings, adding that the explanation that the explosions were as a result of fuel oil tanks in the building did not add up.

"I'm an old boiler guy, if it was a fuel oil tank it would have been one side of the building," he stated.

Jennings' eyewitness report of explosions inside WTC 7 before the towers had collapsed as well as dead bodies inside the building completely contradicts the official story, which maintains that there were no fatalities inside Building 7.

If WTC 7 collapsed as a result of damage it sustained from the fall of the twin towers, as the official version claims, then why were explosions taking place inside the building before either tower had collapsed?

It would be nice to know what the timeline was when he was experiencing these explosions. I dont doubt that he was hearing explosions, it is just hard to say what it is that he was hearing when there is so little detail to go on...unless there is a lot more to the interview with a lot more specifics it leads to a lot of speculation that would need to be followed up on to be confirmed. Who was the other guy he was with in the stairway? is his story the same? So he didnt look down, but he could tell that there were bodies? Did any of the explosions that he experienced line up in the same timeline with the known explosions in either of the other buildings? I would have about 5 dozen more questions.

Its interesting...there is a lot more digging to do though before you can really say for sure what he experienced, or at least narrow it down a bit. Right now as the interview stands there is just too much vagueness...for me anyway...

Moving to a more appropriate category.

...f.o.r. y.o.u.r. i.n.f.o.r.m.a.t.i.o.n.... t.h.i.s i.s .a n.e.w.s. i.t.e.m...

Since the original 'source' of the news item is the P.r.i.s.o.n P.l.a.n.e.t, I believe its in the correct spot.

problem is, just because you heard an explosion, doesn't mean it was an explosion

it becomes a problem when ,what ever it was, it blew out the WTC 7 emergency stairwell on floor six and happened before WTC 1 or 2 collapsed.

also, it becomes more troublesome when Mr Jennings claims to stepped over or around dead persons in the lobby which completely contradicts the

official story, which maintains that there were no fatalities inside Building 7.

..note... this story collaborates the story of Mr. William Rodriguez.

In the EMS/NYPD post event interviews, there are several EMS folks who apparently were working in the lobby, and front area of building 7 before the collapse of tower 2. The lobby through to the loading dock area were also passable after WTC2 came down, though badly damaged, though the idea of trying to set up operations there were gone.
They gave no indication of any explosions or damage to the building prior to WTC2 collapse. They had also been up at the OEM operations center prior to it being evacuated, supposedly for a third missing plane.

Got some real conflicting testamony here...

http://911stories.googlepages.com/lastsurv...bble%3Fsavedhun


rubuttal for my william rodriguez.

Exactly. I think what we have here on the part of the skeptics of this testimony is pure denial; there is a difference between being skeptical and intentionally disregarding the obvious. What further needs to be collaborated?! The guy Barry Jennings was specific enough for any sound civilian to understand. Do some reasoning. Jennings claimed he heard/experienced explosions while within building 7, Jennings claimed he saw dead people in the lobby, when Jennings heard/felt the explosions-World Trade Center 1 and 2 were still standing......conclusion, the explosions took place within building 7 before either building collapsed therefore there could not have been any structural damage to building 7 because neither of the twin towers had collapsed! Omg, is that so hard to understand? Sure, we'd love to have an after-math interview today with Jennings over what he experienced more specifically in building 7 but based upon the testimony he gave, that alone should be the nail in the coffin.

One could argue that once the towers collapsed that then added structural damage which caused the building to later collapse, but that doesn't account for nor disprove the fact that explosions were taking place within building 7 before either Tower collapsed. Both towers are still standing, why is this guy hearing explosions? Why is there even explosions(more than one) occuring in building 7 if both towers were still standing? Questions questions questions, which point to an unwanted answer.

Mr Jennings states that they were trapped on the eighth floor for "several hours", after climbing up from the "collapsed" stairwell around the sixth floor. He didn't go through the lobby, according to his timeline, until a fireman took them out...after being trapped up there for "several hours". Both towers would have collapsed by the time he was escorted out through the lobby.
Did they try to find another route down in the meantime? How did the fireman get up there to reach them, where they were "trapped"?

Meanwhile, several folks running EMS activities in the WTC7 lobby reported no explosions, no problems at WTC7 until WTC2 came down.

I absolutely agree that there are questions AUL; but personally I'd like to have a bit of research done to try and nail down some timelines, maybe get a few more details confirmed before jumping to some conclusions. I have been watching these videos and one of the things that strikes me as odd is that there is an automatic assumption of the worst possible guilt on the behalf of the government, without any real evidence to back it up. There is a lot of comments and speculation, but an opinion is not really something that a person could take to court and prosecute George Bush with, so for me it's all rather pointless.

There are a lot of questions to be asked, but it seems that no one is asking the questions; they may be doing a lot of speculating, but the reporting is so shoddy it is hard to take it seriously. If someone were to take the time to nail down some answers it might be convincing, but as it stands now it is one guys recollection of events that aren’t timed up against the known explosions taking place in 1 & 2 that could account for a good deal of damage if we had any better idea of his details.

It just seems like some folks will automatically default to assuming that everything is an absolute worst case scenario, that every unknown factor (regardless of how obscure or unlikely) will fall into place to make sure that the US Government can continue to perform its evil deeds.

Now, in my opinion there is something odd going on that needs to be looked into, but in this particular case I personally don’t have enough specific evidence to corroborate things one way or another in regards to Mr. Rodriguez. He has a story that can be taken to sound like something incredibly nefarious is definitely occurring when you look at it from the outside, without any specific details, timelines, evidence...There is a definite scary spin on it…and heck he could be right, but without evidence, without proof it isn’t something that I would want to go around claiming as gospel.

Profile: Barry Jennings http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity....arry_jennings_1

Barry Jennings was a participant or observer in the following events:

(Shortly Before 9:03 a.m.) September 11, 2001: New York City Workers Reportedly Find Emergency Command Center Empty Before It Is Supposedly Evacuated
After the first World Trade Center tower is hit, Barry Jennings, a City Housing Authority worker, and Michael Hess, New York’s corporation counsel, head up to the emergency command center of the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management (OEM), which is on the 23rd floor of WTC 7. [ASSOCIATED PRESS, 9/11/2001] The center, opened in 1999, is intended to coordinate responses to various emergencies, including terrorist attacks (see June 8, 1999). [CNN, 6/7/1999] However, Hess and Jennings reportedly find no one there. [NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY, 9/2005, PP. 109-110 ] According to the 9/11 Commission, “After the South Tower was hit [at 9:03], OEM senior leadership decided to remain in its ‘bunker’ and continue conducting operations, even though all civilians had been evacuated from 7 WTC.” The Commission claims the center is not evacuated until 9:30 a.m. (see (9:30 a.m.) September 11, 2001). [9/11 COMMISSION, 7/24/2004, PP. 305]

But according to the London Independent, Hess and Jennings arrive there by the time the South Tower is hit, which suggests the center is evacuated earlier than officially claimed. [INDEPENDENT, 9/13/2001] This possibility is partly confirmed by OEM Commissioner John Odermatt, who later says that after the first plane hit the WTC, he left only two staffers at the command center (see (Soon After 8:46 a.m.-9:35 a.m.) September 11, 2001). [BARRETT AND COLLINS, 2006, PP. 34] Jennings and Hess subsequently become trapped in WTC 7, and have to be rescued by firefighters (see 12:10 p.m.-12:15 p.m. September 11, 2001). [NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY, 9/2005, PP. 109-110 ]
Entity Tags: Office of Emergency Management, Barry Jennings, Michael Hess

(Between 9:15 a.m. and 10:28 a.m.) September 11, 2001: New York City Workers Hear Explosion in WTC 7
Barry Jennings, a City Housing Authority worker, and Michael Hess, New York’s corporation counsel, went up to the emergency command center on the 23rd floor of WTC Building 7 after the first attack occurred (see (Shortly Before 9:03 a.m.) September 11, 2001). [ASSOCIATED PRESS, 9/11/2001; INDEPENDENT, 9/13/2001] At some point, the power goes out in the building. They then start walking down the stairs to get out. According to Hess, when the two men get down to the eighth floor, “there was an explosion and we’ve been trapped on the eighth floor with smoke, thick smoke, all around us, for about an hour and a half.” [UPN 9, 9/11/2001] Jennings similarly describes, “We made it to the eighth floor. Big explosion. Blew us back into the eighth floor, and I turned to Hess. I said, ‘This is it; we’re dead. We’re not gonna make it out of here.’” [PENN STATE PUBLIC BROADCASTING, 3/1/2002] The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) claims the two men head down the stairs after 9:59, when the first collapse occurs, and then become trapped around the time the second tower collapses, at 10:28. [NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY, 9/2005, PP. 109-110 ] But according to the London Independent, they start heading down the stairs after the second attack at 9:03, which suggests the explosion occurs earlier on. [INDEPENDENT, 9/13/2001] The cause of the explosion is unclear. Later on, firefighters rescue Hess and Jennings from the building (see 12:10 p.m.-12:15 p.m. September 11, 2001). [NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY, 9/2005, PP. 109-110 ]

12:10 p.m.-12:15 p.m. September 11, 2001: Firefighters Rescue Three People Trapped in WTC 7

Mike Hess. [Source: Harvard Law Bulletin]

Most of Building 7 of the World Trade Center was evacuated around the time the South Tower was hit (see (9:03 a.m.) September 11, 2001). However, firefighters find three individuals who have become trapped inside it. Among them are Barry Jennings, a City Housing Authority worker, and Mike Hess, New York’s chief lawyer who is also a longtime friend of Mayor Rudolph Giuliani. The two had gone up to the 23rd floor headquarters of the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management some time before 10 a.m., but found it empty. (It was evacuated at 9:30 a.m.; see (9:30 a.m.) September 11, 2001.) They headed downstairs but became trapped around the sixth floor by smoke and debris that filled the staircase as a result of the North Tower collapsing at 10:28 a.m. After breaking a window and calling for help, they were spotted by firefighters outside. When the firefighters go in, they also find a security officer for one of the businesses based in the building, who is trapped on the 7th floor by the smoke in the stairway. Why this guard did not evacuate earlier, along with the rest of WTC 7, is unknown. All three men are escorted out of the building. [NEW YORK TIMES, 11/21/1997; ASSOCIATED PRESS, 9/11/2001; GIULIANI, 2002, PP. 20-21 AND 244; PENN STATE PUBLIC BROADCASTING, 3/1/2002; NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY, 6/2004, PP. L-18 ; NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY, 9/2005, PP. 109-110 ]

er Far from conclusive.
Could've the damage have been cause by debris from the planes crashing in?
The debris fell onto Building 7?

Or could they have been victims from outside brought into the foyer as a temporary holding area?

The BBC have now aired the documentary. In it, Barry Jennings says that he withdrew his contribution from Loose Change not because of any threats but because of the misinterpretation of his evidence that Loose Change added. In particular, he denied seeing any dead bodies in the lobby, that was not what he meant by his "stepping over people" remark.

That makes sense since the Department of Emergency Management was located in Building 7.

Numerous EMS folks were working a response/treatment center in the lobby of 7, with a number of injured folks there.

so the bodies weren't dead, just wounded-and-soon-to-be-dead people they were walking on?

Or wounded-and-soon-to-be-moved-elsewhere.

Barry Jennings told Loose Change director Dylan Avery, referring to his exit from WTC7: -

“... kept saying do not look down. We were stepping over people and you know you can feel when you're stepping over people.”

From this, Avery quite reasonably assumed that Jennings’ statement was in reference to dead bodies. Jennings then refused permission to use his interview because in his words: -

“I said it felt like I was stepping over them, I never saw them.”

Perhaps the Loose Change interpretation of dead bodies was wrong (perhaps in fact it was absolutely correct though unconfirmed) but that appears entirely due to the leading nature of Jennings’ account rather than any misleading by Avery. The above statement and clarification by Jennings’ are petty matters. Another quote from Jennings’ I found to be more interesting is as follows: -

“The first explosion I heard was on the stairwell landing when we made it down to the 6th floor, then when we made it back to the 8th floor I heard more explosions.”

Despite Jennings reporting multiple and specifically “explosions”, some would say this was the result of debris impacting WTC7 from the fall of WTC1. But now for the really interesting quote as Jennings continues: -

“When we get outside, a police officer comes to me and says you have to run, we have more information of bombs.”

Of course this isn’t new but it further confirms the reports on 9/11 of “secondary devices” sourced from both the CIA and the Chief of Safety for the FDNY.

So you are saying that the police and the FDNY are in on the conspiracy? In spite of the large number of their colleagues killed? Or perhaps "bomb" is just a very good word to use if you want people to clear the area.

No, wrong. I am saying there were plenty of indications leading the NYPD, FDNY, CIA, media and eyewitnesses to state that there were bombs or secondary devices in the buildings on 9/11.

This is yet again how i cant believe why or how (the conspiracy gang) thats what i call them, can say that this was planned by our Government, Do they not realize the magnitude of people who have to be lying to the American Public?

Some of these people think that President Bush himself was on the towers lighting fuses with a match... its just blows my mind, this was an American tragedy that will be remembered long after most of us are gone, Also, The planes were remote controlled, or they weren't planes at all, its been long enough since this has happened that if there were something fishy it would have been found by now.

We know who did it..

Ah much like the Gleiwitz incident, unconfirmed for over 6 years, which Hitler used to launch WW2?

Or did you mean like Air America, an American airline covertly owned and operated by the CIA for over 25 years?

Perhaps the Operation Northwoods document detailing US false flag planning which was undisclosed for over 35 years?

Or were you basing that on Operation Gladio, unrevealed for over 40 years, consisting of clandestine stay-behind armies created by the CIA/NATO following WW2 and attributed with carrying out terrorist attacks in member states for political gain?

Then it took a whole 75 years for Marinus van der Lubbe to be pardoned by the German courts for his alleged part in the Reichstag fire.



Yes, I have narrowed it down to a few dozen individuals who are a part of or affiliated with the current US administration and then a number of additional intelligence operatives, most of whom may be from a foreign agency or agencies.

Apart from loud noises, easily explainable in the circumstances, exactly what indications?

If the police or fire service had evidence at the time or later that there really were bombs, why didn't they follow up this line of inquiry into who killed their colleagues? You are still accusing them of complicity.

Oh I don't know about this. I just watched the video. It did seem like he meant dead bodies he was walking over. I wonder why he changed his story later. That's strange to me.

To state the obvious, loud noises are one of the main results of explosives and on 9/11 were, whether by themselves or alongside another factor, apparently sufficient for the NYPD, FDNY, CIA, media and eyewitnesses to suspect the effects were caused not by fires but bombs or secondary devices in the buildings.

If these explosions were easily explainable in the circumstances as you say, then you are calling all of the above fools. That includes trained and experienced firefighters who I presume know what is to be expected in a fire and also personnel on the scene who were best placed to describe what was witnessed.

I agree that some explosions would be due to the fires and collapses. There are though a number of important features which lead to the conclusion that these explosions were separate events aside from the impacts: -

1. If you read the excerpts and follow the links from the post I made here, it is apparent that explosions were occurring on many levels far below the impact zones leading up to collapse, including right down to the basement. How was this possible so far from the fires?
   
   
2. Reports of “secondary devices” were sourced from both the CIA and the Chief of Safety for the FDNY. Firefighters on the scene reported explosions and one of them, Christopher Fenyo, said, “At that point, a debate began to rage because… many people had felt that possibly explosives had taken out 2 World Trade, and officers were gathering companies together and the officers were debating whether or not to go immediately back in or to see what was going to happen with 1 World Trade at that point.” Why did trained firefighters not believe these explosions were due to the fire?
   
   
3. This WTC7 explosion in particular sounds very much like a shaped-charge. I have listened to other explosions including electrical transformers, propane tanks, firefighter training videos, even land mines and fireworks factories. None of them matched the loud sharp explosion from WTC7 like the shaped charge does. Can you find an example that matches the WTC7 explosion equally well?
   
   
4. Of course after all of the above, the WTC buildings then collapsed virtually symmetrically and at near freefall speed; the results that could be expected of a controlled demolition setup…

Taken altogether, these are some of the points strongly suggestive of planted rather than ‘natural’ explosives in the buildings.



They certainly suspected bombs at the time but that was all quashed once the official story began to propagate.

I'll ask again. If these people thought that the loud noises were explosives rather than any other of the possible causes of loud noises in the circumstances, why haven't they followed this up? Are they in on the conspiracy? Or did they simply realise that they had no evidence for explosives?

So all the experts were quashed, but heroic amateurs are upholding the truth and suffering the hideous consequences that the police and firemen dared not face? Oh sorry, for "suffering the hideous consequences" read "making a fortune on the lecture circuit".

The "news" of secondary devices was rampant that morning...one news outlet had talked about the State Department being car bombed. Sites were being evacuated all over because of fear and rumor, the news coverage has it all over.
This does not mean they were there. And because there was a large bang that "sounded like" a shaped charge, could it possibly have been something else? Your video only includes a shaped charge and an unidentified explosion at the WTC site. One is in an open field, the other in a densely urban area. I cannot assume your connection. How about the sound of an exploding propane tank? Some other pressure vessel overpressurizing? Something made the noise, but attributing it precisely to a shaped charge (which failed to bring down the building) is a bit presumtuous.