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NeoGenesis
Is this a supplement to our hard driven nuclear reactors to help with power demand.

Canadian engineers solution for power generation from reactors and solar power.

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Most of us know that tornadoes are unpredictable, uncontrollable, and dangerous. But a Canadian engineer thinks they could be the future of electricity generation. He wants to make electricity from artificial tornadoes.

Louis Michaud, a retired petroleum engineer in Sarnia, Ontario, plans to use the waste heat from conventional power plants to create an "atmospheric vortex engine" - a small, controlled tornado that would drive turbines and generate electricity. "I'm confident that we could control these things," he says. Michaud also thinks solar powered tornados generated using the sun's heat could also work.


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It functions like this,waste heat from the reactor is channeled into a room 200 meters wide and a 100 meters tall without a roof.The heat is blown into the room at a angel to get a rotation going as the rotation speeds up its forms a small whirlwind this in turn sucks in more heat at the end a small tornado will form which will self sustain
by sucking in even more hot air from the vents the fast moving wind will then impinge on a turbine to generate electricity.

The system is built to mimic the the mechanism that produces a tornado,as shown in the picture the turbine will be seated in the center of the chamber basically where the fast spinning vortex is.According to his reports the more heat produced by the reactor the more powerful the tornado his first design is based on todays nuclear reactor.But further development will see it enter along side a fusion plant that has a bigger heat production than a nuclear plant.

Based on calculations this project will develop about 50 to 500MW of power on the wast heat of a nuclear power plant.I personally am a bit skeptic from what I know of the properties of moving air impinging on a turbine but I could be wrong about this,and generating that amount of power will take some really fast moving air around the turbine to power that size of generator (50 MW and higher).I now for certain that off shore wind turbines generate about a 100 MW of power but anyone must have seen the size of that fan blades to catch the wind.

This photo is a test model of the proposed design.

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ROGER
I have seen similar ideas before. One idea was a hollow tube that allowed ground heat to enter, flow up the tube turning propeller blades, then venting out the top. I assume set up costs would be high. Repairs inside the tube a pain. And heat plus moister promotes Rust!

So even heat from a reactor is steam. So I see problems to be resolved.
NeoGenesis
QUOTE (ROGER @ Jun 24 2008, 06:58 PM) *
I have seen similar ideas before. One idea was a hollow tube that allowed ground heat to enter, flow up the tube turning propeller blades, then venting out the top. I assume set up costs would be high. Repairs inside the tube a pain. And heat plus moister promotes Rust!

So even heat from a reactor is steam. So I see problems to be resolved.


Yes very true.

Have also seen the designs of these ground heat based towers.Know discovery had a documentary on future energy sources and one of them was these towers.If I can recall correctly one of the proposed places was Australian outback on those vast planes of open ground.

I know of one logical problem of those towers is say for instance there is a overcast day,not enough heat = no power to turn turbines.
ROGER
So if we set up some towers in the Sahara Desert we may get enough power to run a small Air Conditioner? The natives would think we were Nuts! And they would be right. wink2.gif
Sag!ttarius
I've seen that TV report a few years back. A Quebec guy interviewed on Discovery channel. (edited: removed this part, didn't read the full OP, silly me... yes.gif ). I thought it was kind of an interesting out-of-the-box idea.
Dragohunter
QUOTE (Sag!ttarius @ Jun 24 2008, 07:45 PM) *
I've seen that TV report a few years back. A Quebec guy interviewed on Discovery channel. (edited: removed this part, didn't read the full OP, silly me... yes.gif ). I thought it was kind of an interesting out-of-the-box idea.


I saw the same thing also.
Diedtrying
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And heat plus moister promotes Rust!
So even heat from a reactor is steam. So I see problems to be resolved.


So how does every power station on the planet combat this now? I'm not being flippant, but power station use heat to turn water into steam which in turn spins the turbines so what makes them different?
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