i have reciently wanted to know other peoples theorys on how the world was created, i know about the big boom and god creating the universe in 7 days and all that stuff but can there be a differant way the earth was created?????????

-Maria

There's little doubt the sun coalesced from gases and other material
in space and the planets were almost certainly just heavier materials
which segregated by size in the process and ended up in orbit. Most
of this material was drawn down into the sun and some colided and was
retained by the planetary bodies.

Before this it's pretty difficult to know much. I believed in a big bang
until more recent evidence threw a monkey wrench into the theory
but likely there is some sort of single point origin for this section of
the universe. It's hardly certain that this single point happened only
once even locally. This universe is probably far older and far larger
than people suspect. I also think that time will be found to be a sort
of "flexible constant" and that it's interrelated with matter and energy.
It is time that fuels the big bangs, the stars, and black holes. A great
deal of time.

The universe created itself.

Life is much easier. Terrestrial life lives around the smokers in the mid
Atlantic. Everyone else's ancestors blew in on the solar wind. The uni-
verse is just lousy with spores, germs, seeds, viruses, and whatnot from
all the novas through time. Eventually one will fall onto a planet that
will support it and it will flourish and branch off in all directions to fill
the physical niches as well as the niches which it creates itself.

Personally.
I believe creationism.
However I do not believe the way most christians believe.
They believe that God created the universe in 7 literal days.
But in the bible it says a day in heaven is as 1000 years on earth.
Now that would imply that God created the universe in 7000 years.
Also I believe the universe has been here for well over 6000 years.
I believe that God may have created evolution.
But the universe has been here well over 6000 years.
I believe that the universe has been here for about 150 billion years.
It was just laying dormant during evolution.
Until it all started to get going after man was developed further.
Because the ice age was billions of years ago.
It would have taken billions of years for it to get here.
There for the earths rotation was off for a few billion years.
I believe the ice age was the first winter on earth.
It was just new to the earth and so it was not yet adapted to it.
So that is my theory.
Take it or leave it lol.

Yours truely,
AS

I thought I answered this already?

Do you know what that means?
Just curious.

Of course

The idea that the universe must have had a beginning is all a buncha biblical hooey. The universe is infinite in time and space. It has always been and it always will be. No beginning, no end.

all though alot of people believe this theory. i just find it impossible that it has always bin there. everything needs a beginning not always an end, but if it doesent have a beginning it surely cant exist because it has not bin created. not trying to say your wrong just my opinion . the world and life is very complex too complex for us to fully grasp i believe possibly we may find out when we die. but we may never know.

Okay lol.
I looked it up.
I was curious as to what it meant.
And this is what I got.
"May I be given the words of power of Isis".
And as we all know Isis is the godess of fertility.
In the egyptian gods/godesses.
I was just curious that's all.
(And I know "Curiosity killed the cat").
(HOWEVER! "It was the satisfaction of knowing that brought him back!")
Haha take it easy y'all,
AS


Then how did it get here?
How did WE get here?
Everything has a begining.
Otherwise what is it?
Nothing.

Just an idea:

Maybe the planet itself wasn't created. It could have simply evolved in some of the ways that scientists have been trying to guess at for years.

What we call "the world" is the planet plus the living organisms on it.
So it's life that created the world.

maybe that Indian legend is true:

One day Vishwakarma decided to take a break and left his workshop, but he forgot to lock it. His children sneaked in and started playing with his tools. At the end of the day they had created a deformed planet, that looked more like a pear then a sphere. The Earth

Even if there were a begining it would be impossible for us to know, being that it precedes us, besides infinity is just stating IMHO the obvious, if there was a begining what was the begining to that, and to that, and that and that, and that like peter griffin says in the episode of if I'm dying I'm lyin, lol.
In infinity you can have cycles though...

the whynsos knows no limit but does know the self

After a lifetimes research - consulting with many of the great thinkers of our time, having sat at the feet of mystics and fakirs, having trod, without tearing, the rice paper carpet of shaoilin temples!

I have come to realise that this world came to be, by being expelled from the third stomach of the great star goat during its final cataclysmic coughing fit!

All Hail the great Star Goat!
(Apologies to Douglas Adams)

Hey its as good as anyone elses guess!

Creation or having had a beginning implies the presence of a creator.



By your logic the universe must have been "created" at some point or otherwise it is nothing and doesn't exist. So who created the universe? A god? Then this god must have also been created at some point. Otherwise it's nothing if it has always been.

So who created god? And who created that creator?

See how weak and self defeating these arguments are?

...hey I already pointed those out, LOL

The whynsos todols huh, yeah a pothead came up with that one ( to do L's)

God is very hard to understand.
It says so in the bible.
It says in the bible that God has always been.
And always will be.
That's hard for a human to compreehend.
Yes THINGS that have no begining are nothing.
Due to the fact, that everyTHING and everyONE has a begining.
Including the universe.
But God is not a person.
Or a thing.
God is a devine being.
God is the omnipotent creator.
It says in the bible God is the Alpha and Omega.
The begining and the end.
Which pretty much means God was never created.
It's hard to fathom that God has always been.
Because in our life everything is made, and has a begining.
But God is devine.
Omnipotent.
And all knowing.
If you're going to heaven then you will be able to ask God these questions.
And God will be able to answer them.
Simple as that.

Actually that would imply that God created the universe in something which could be described as "...as 7000 years on Earth is."
I think that means , "a long time", since there's nothing in the Bible which actually has anything quantitative to back it up.




Something tells me you believe too much.
Knoweldge is a precious thing, and we have lots of it pertaining to the known universe.

You're right. The universe has been here for well over 6000 years. It's actually closer to 14 billion years...which is about 11 times less than you believe...

However, I will say that your belief puts another one of our esteemed posters out to pasture...as he claims to be 300 billion years old!



Evolution implies the exact opposite of dormancy. It is an active process. Man could not have evolved in a state of dormancy.



Huh?
The last one ended about 10-12,000 years ago, and there were many before that.




How's that?



Please explain that from a cause and effect basis...




Well, OK.

I'll leave it.

I think I'll adhere to glyndowers heir's idea:




Now that's believable!

Thanks Mid, the inaugural meeting of the most worshipful congregation of the church of the great star goat will be held a week on wednesday, please book early to secure a pew.

All donations to the Church of the great star goat should be made payable to the 'Grand commander of the Star Goats Coffers' (Dont say that too quickly! ) C/o Glyndowers Heir, PO Box 6305, Aberystwyth, Wales!

I agree with this for the most part. Except that would be 6000 years since on the seventh day he rested. My take is that it did take several thousand years and that basically "Let there be light" is a metaphor FOR the big bang. Basical principle, the big bang created matter from nothing. God is the only "being" capable of creating something from nothing. That is IMHO of course. As always, I'm open to other ideas or critiques. so long as they are tastefully done anyways.

Hmmm, my non realistic view of how the world came to be.

In a great astral duel Altimus, and Prometheus(his brother), fought for control of the remote, by accident, altimus fell off the couch and let out some spittle, which fell to the floor of their house. This came to be the universe which we now know, for Altimus and Prometheus are still battling, even though they haven't even aged ten millenia, but just ten days.

There father, being a mad scientist found the spit of blood, and took it into his lab, where he created a place to put it, here he kept, considering he knows it was a universe, cuz man come on if your born on the astral plains then you should know your there. He then goes about his evil agenda to take control of all dimensions and all lvls to the astral plains, by creating humans.

The prophecy goes, when humans gain their enlightened state of high self, they go through the universe, and populate all, and rule over all, then all at once transcend(what a waste of time, to just leave that which we live by wanting to die), in which he will use his mass manipulator to take control of our minds, to use our unlimited store of power we have within ourselves(the Divine Spark). There is another part to this, but I've been online all day, researching stuff, and writing, and my hands hurt, time to read a book, or at least call my one and only, and tell her her sister is hotter then her. hahahahahahahahaha. That'd just be mean.

I believe the Electric Universe Theory myself... our planet sprouted from Saturn.
I'm not a firm believer in our methods for dating stuff, so I do not have any idea how long it took to create our Earth.

I'm making arrangements NOW!!!
Great Star Goats in Heaven, I'm really up for this!!!






Oh, OK!
Is 40% of my salary sufficient?????

my friends..
the only way logical is jesus
no otha ways make sense
christians have it

Keebler Elves.

HN

you mean the only way faithful, don't you.....

only messin

the whynsos

"christians" obviously have a problem spelling and using proper English syntax, punctuation, etc...

"No "otha" way makes sense..."?

That sounds rather "hip hop" like, actually...


"Hip Hop": Term utilized by "rappers" to legitimize their "music" by associating it with a legitimate form of jazz...phonetically at least, "Be Bop".

I thought the "Great Star Goat" was pretty cool.



This thread was actually about the creation of the "world".
How such diversions got into it is beyond me...

LMAO

I wish I had the mind of a 12 year old as well. Must be pure bliss.

Hi Mid, Sorry its taken so long to get back to you all, I've been away surveying remote easily defended ranches for use as the cult stronghold - sorry that should read Church of the great star goat centre of worship and enlightenment retreat

Yes 40% of your salary would be an acceptable start, we can work our way up to the ownership deeds of your house and any nubile women you may have running around the place later.

Don't worry they will be perfectly safe as 'personal handmaidens of the chief Star goat herder' - purely an honorary title I assure you! They will only be used as bookkeepers/typists and receptionists with the occasional massage session as and when required!

We don't know that everything had a beginning, we tend to assume it did.

We assume there was a time that there was no universe. We assume that there was a time that there was no time. We assume that our own consciousness can't extend backward beyond our memory or the memory of older persons.

We assume that a creator always existed or that there was no creator.

Ultimately all these questions remain imponderables and probably always will.

Me, I'm sticking to the idea that time is the only real thing and that energy and matter are merely forms of it. Why? Well frankly because that's about the only thing that can ever be proven if it's true and it seems to look like what God would want.

Ah, but time is but an illusion my friend!

You may well be right but it's the most powerful illusion
in the universe. It keeps two things from being in the
same place in all known cases. It's inexorable in all hu-
man experience. You can delay it, forestall it, or some-
times ignore it but it always catches up and it's always
there; illusion or no.

Time don't fly, it bounds and leaps.

Tempus fugit.

Time also is what makes math work. Without time Zeno's paradox would cripple everything.

This thread on the Lacerta files http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum...t=#entry2374966
was very interesting reading yesterday ... ..

I do think that evolution here on Earth was 'helped out' by 'others'...

but then again... Where did they come from? Who, what, 'made' .. 'created' them?

kind of a 'catch 22' situation...

Ok then!
Nubile women, my house, uh...lets see...stocks, bonds, 401Ks, and all that are at the disposal of the Great Goat Star. (I'm getting rid of all my goat futures as we speak....wouldn't want anything hanging around that might seem sacriligious!)

...I was kinda hoping for polygamy, automatic weapons, and the occassional banishment of the non believer by way of poison berry cocktail...but maybe it'll evolve into those more esoteric aspects of enlightened behavior!

you must remember that any new religion takes time to evolve and gain acceptance, all you have mentioned and more will come to pass once we have secured enough funding for the cult stronghold- sorry centre of worship/retreat.

when you have had chance to digest our holy book you will come to realise that the GSG will forgive all transgressions from his flock of kids! for he truly wubs us all

As the first convert of the church of the great star goat, my kid! you are thrice blessed, you only have to give up your current holdings to the chief goatherd on earth now, and they shall be returned to you a thousandfold when you enter the great paddock in the sky where 70 virgins will await your every command - oh hang on that ones been done hasn't it!

anyway I think we have made a good start here, as good as any of the other Scams - sorry pseudoreligions that others have tried to foist on us!

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Yea...I think your right...

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...Yea...it's been done, but hey, no problem with doing it again, is there!!??!?!



...it could be embellished...given a new number,like 100???

And why not?

We can soon build a mystical significance here, 100 Virgins divides nicely by the number of hooves on the GSG that gives 25 which could be the number of 'church of the GSG' summer camps each church member must attend to guarantee their place in the celestial paddock!

I half agree, The universe was made in a infinate time zone. But by the colision of 2 comets or a comet and a planet.

Interesting post.I was reading that our universe exists for over 70 billions years,and our planet earth is a little over 4 billions year.I am sure god created the universe,so i dont believe in big bang theory.God created universe and all races.Noone will never know,how it was one.God allows us to know him only thru Jesus,his son.I blieve that there was a lot going on on our planet,when was created.I believe different extraterrstial races lived here for sometime,and 1 day we will have technology as they do,allow us travel to different dimensions,galaxies and planets,exploring universe and different races.Our planet would be different in like 1000 years ago,and what most people see in si-fi movies would be true,and possible.Time travel,telekinesis,telepathy,and many other things.Even people would be able to live longer,i will say way over 200 years.I think,there would be underwater cities,and we will found the way to communicate with aliens.Each house may have teleportation chamber,or people will be able to travel from usa to europe in 1 hour.As my final note...imagine ur at 1400 century,you see guy on the road,and u show him our cell phones,video camera,or tv,,he will think,ur from other planet.Same thing is when we see ufos now.! day,people will have their ufo,and will be able to ravel as fast as them,which is at speed of light. peace.
There are many races in universe...millions of galaxies,and hundrer of millions of planets.. pleadians said,they travel from planet to planet,meeting different races,and they said there are races,that looks like humans,and there are many of them.When our physical body dies,maybe we will end up there? or maybe on different planet? only god knows.

It certainly is not imposible, time is a great presence in The Universe and other dimensions alike, that is a fact, but our interpretation of time is totally..... rebundant, and ridiculous. Believe it or not, time is not "past, present and future", time is present, and present only, but in another aspect.................., gosh this could get complicated. This would take much time to explain.

Physical matter does not exist as we understand it, everything is linked to energy, physical matter is energy, in a diferent state, but it is energy. Our comprehension of existence and paralell dimensions and The Universe alike is totally of the track, only the later generations of human beings will begin to understand the true nature of existence.

This is the highest top of the metaphysics and physics itself, it is not abnormal that you do not understand it ( even I do not understand it myself), for it is not under the current comprehension level of the current generations.

This I have posted above is not mear speculation , for the source is secure and genuine, though I shall not tell.


P.S Time is NOT an illusion, our understanding of time IS an illusion.

The real creation is God -- but in scientific terms, who knows? My theory is that aliens created us like a tiny little project, and we are just some alien's computer game running on a computer [or something more advanced]. Stephen Hawking believes in the big bang theory, he is just as clever as Albert himself, then again -- he is not the truth's brain.