Some may like to visit this site. It is created by Lisa Rhyne for one of the last Hopi elders, Grandfather Martin. I have cut and pasted a few quotes from it. Scroll down to the heading:

RETURN OF THE STAR NATIONS DURING OUR TIME OF PURIFICATION:
REPORT ON THE STAR KNOWLEDGE CONFERENCE - SEDONA
by Richard Boylan, Ph.D. ©1998

It touches on the issues of UFOs, genetic engineering, weather changes, Pleiadian and Elohim race, Star Visitors, Crop Circles…well, have a read at:

http://www.thedreammasters.org/hopi/martingashweseoma.php

Following are just a couple of quotes:
They are making new animals. The elders talked about this. They said, "You will see new animals, and even the old animals will come back, animals that people thought had disappeared. They will find them here and there. They'll begin to reappear."

The next panel featured four speakers. Tukala, a Pipe Carrier of the Rosebud Reservation, related that he has been involved with encounters with his Star Relatives since 1995. Also aware of UFO information in the non-Native world, Tukala compared what he had learned from the Star Nations with what Swiss UFO experiencer Billy Meier had heard from the Pleiadeans who visited him. Tukala declared, "It is the same."

(The Hopi see the Swiss nation as one of four given tablets. There is the Native American Indian. The Tibetans, the Kenyans and the Swiss. Coincidence that Billy Meier is Swiss??) My two cents worth.

"What goes on in Hopiland affects the rest of the world. Hopiland has spiritual lines that connect to the rest of the world. Hopi prayer is for all the world. Hopi tradition tells about a group of people from the Pleiades that would come and help the people here when something big and unfortunate happens. Hopi Elders had the knowledge of getting around to visit other planets, and knew that there was life on other planets.

"After the Purification is over, there will be one language, one law. Togetherness will come about, as was once before. The altars and shrines of the Hopi Societies will be eliminated, because they will no longer have power. There will be one government, but not the New World Order some talk about, because freedom will be of the essence."

Love and peace,
Sam (White Hopi)

Just sent Grampa a Letter, Thanks foe the link.

Love Omnaka

Because , for the life of this world, one can incarnate his spirit in to any Body Being born(Physically).

One can trace The physical Geneology, which is only a blink of The eternal life of spirt, But can not trace the spirit whichj incarnates again and again.

Who was a Jew in the infancy of this world, may now be a Baptist preacher,

The Hopi are no diferent although some have come back again and again in Hopi Form, Most have opted their spirit to Experience Experience of all this World has to offer.

This is including but not limited to Being a Hopi, Jew Catholick, Chinese, Spaniard, lBlack man.

The world is gonna end, all we can do as individuals, is to love our brother on Earth and do the best we can while in this form.

In the end all will be Good again, Love always prevailes!

Much love to you my Brother.

Love Omnaka.

has it been proven that Billy Meiers so called encounters with the so called Pleiadians is a fake.

I think so.

But what do I know. Cuz, I'm just a person who believes in aliens thats all.

What do you think?

..."after the purification?" Wasn't Hitler apart of that club? Purify is one of those words that sound devine but is anything but, cause usually when you purified something it entails getting rid of "undesireables", (yeah lol that sure doesn't carry that "universal meaning" tune) and germs lawyers and coporate owners ain't the only ones IMHO on that list...

The whynsos

Purification. Yeah, but Hitler exterminated goodness and called it purification. He was also a very sick man at the end. Fortunately his madness probably was his undoing or he may have done a lot more ‘purification,’ horror. But he along with many world leaders have all been part of the deception toward man to lead them into more horrors.

Yes, to purify means to take out the rotten elements when natives or celestials speak of purification. I hope I can explain this correctly.

We have entered a purification period for mankind. When the Hopi and other Natives were giving warnings many years ago the purification had not begun. If mankind had decided to follow the laws of the Great Spirit mankind would not be faced with the horrors it is today and no purification would have been necessary.

But now there are so many rotten elements in human society the removal of such elements is vital for its very survival. So we are now entering a new age. Over x amount of years during the celestials open presence to give a helping hand to mankind, there will be a mix of those who love their fellow man and Mother Earth and the Source of all life, the Great Spirit, and others will totally reject all this. These people will die out over time they just won’t be able to survive in an environment that is saturated with love and in accordance with oneness with the whole universe.

I was just thinking today about a scenario which I have absolutely no doubt will happen. The celestials come but many will curse them for coming. Look how many live for power, live to control others. They don’t wish to see a time where man is not answerable to governments or religions. Sacrifice the whole of mankind for the sake of those who care only for themselves and ignore those who wish to love and live in harmony and respect of all that exists?

All that dies physically passes into another existence, whatever that existence might be.


Love and peace,
Sam (White Hopi)

I agree with you on this:

Yeah, but Hitler exterminated goodness and called it purification. He was also a very sick man at the end. Fortunately his madness probably was his undoing or he may have done a lot more ‘purification,’ horror.

It's good that he was stopped or else who knows what other bad stuff would happen because of him and his clan. And actually, Hitler was always a very sick man. I think his dad beat him up as a child. His dad I think was mentally ill. And then Hitlers mother died when he was an adult. And then the art college that he wanted to go to to become an artist didn't except him. And I guess that was the last straw for him. He was a very sick unhappy man.

I understand what ya meant in the privious post, just that who or better still how does one judge what or who the "rotten elements" are is all. Why is it that we seem to have such a nack at saying F*&% you to the world we live in and all other life seems to say hey' I'm just here to make the best of it' type attitude. Nah when I read or hear about purification especially when dealing with humans, like I says before sounds divine, but is just a fancy way of saying 'we getting rid of those WE deem unfit'...

the whynsos...don't know bout the divine, if I got to div- in- E, how will I breathe?

One more disturbing thing is that why an advanced alien being would send a message of the revelation to...a geographically isolated group of people!!!!!

Why not to the Spanish court? Why not to the Empire of China? Why not to Holy Roman Empire? Why send a message to an isolated tribe who would not be encountered by a globe-trotting (this is important) civilization?

I am totally skeptical about "grandpa". My aunt and uncle live on Hopi - photography is generally discouraged and photography of ANY artifacts is forbidden. Furthermore, who is this woman and why would grandpa place his trust in her? (the owner of the site)

I have spent some time on Hopi myself and I can say the message is not inconstant with Hopi tradition. But the delivery of this message is suspect.

But - the answer to why a "geographically isolated people" might be chosen may be because these same people are not distracted by "national ego". They have a human stake in the message but not a political one. Since larger nations vie for control of everything it seems rather pointless to give a message of unity to them. If one nation is given this message the others will fight to control how it is handled and who needs to know. It is like giving one 3 year old all the candy and telling them to share - they wont. You need to give the candy to someone who can share equally.

I don't want to sound venomous but...

I am an immigrant from Asia. I've lived in the state for only 12 years. Since I am an art student, I've studied a lot of native-american themed paintings and sculpture. You know what I realized?

White people have some kind of fetish on Injuns. Yeah, I know. Whiteys feelin' guilty about massacring millions of Natives. I wonder if you ever saw an episode of South Park:Cherokee Hair Tampon. The episode spoofs the mainstream America's fetish on Native Americans.

If those FOUL XENOS wanted to give a message of their arrival on some isolated groups, heck...they didn't even have to bother with corn-growing Injuns. My home country, the entire kingdom, was pretty much isolated for about 5 centuries, before the forceful diplomacy by 19th century empires. Of course we also have legends about people coming down from the heavens, but aside for the birth of the nation, there's no message from those sky people about any form of revelation.

So you are implying that some stone-age people can stick with the message of peace and harmony or any bull. I don't know the diplomatic policies of those FOUL XENOS, but sending their message to some *** of the human civilization is just absurd at best.

You know what? I am an Asian. Unlike those white people I don't have any fetish on Native Americans.

"You know what? I am an Asian. Unlike those white people I don't have any fetish on Native Americans."
-- Ambelamba

I agree. I've lived on a reservation for eight years, and had a Native American girlfriend for two years. She used to laugh at how the Siapos (Chinook language for "white" and often used as a derogatory term) thought every Indian was sooooooo spiritual and had all the answers.
She put herself through college, had a degree, and didn't have much sympathy for Indians who said they couldn't get good jobs or an education because the white man kept them down.
Look, the Native Americans are just people. They are not imbued with some special knowledge or abilities. As for being spiritual, well the Germans and Irish have a long history of spiritual practices, before and after Christianity, but I don't see anyone going to a German or Irish elder for the answers.
The Europeans have ancient stories of little men, flying people and so on. Nearly every culture does, but somehow when it's a Native American story it must be true.
I have Native American friends, members of the Nez Perce Tribe and Colville Confederated Tribe, and they shake their heads at whites who think they have secret medicines, spiritual advice and special knowledge no one else possesses. White folks ask them the stupidest questions sometimes, and kowtow embarrassingly.
Every culture has its myths. No single culture will save the world. If you believe there is one that will save the world, then you're the kind of person that a fellah named Hitler enjoyed having on his side.

I read the OPs post again. The original article was written by Richard Boylan. I should have read more carefully at the first time. Boylan is clinically insane. His claims are completely useless. I corresponded him through email. He was completely at peace with his own delusional fantasy.

When I speak of the Hopi I also make mention that other natives world wide have similar or same belief. I focus on Hopi as that is what my heart resonates with. Before I knew of the Hopi I posted to a site my beliefs I held since I was a child, as I hoped I might find someone else who shared same feelings and attitudes. A member of that site said I probably would be interested in doing some research on the Hopi who I had never heard of and the rest is history as they say.

I agree, Pigpen, you put it well. Traditional natives don’t have ‘national ego’. They look at all humankind as being brothers and sisters. Native tribes recognize the similarities of the Bibles prophecies and their own, so revelations have not been limited to natives. Islam also have their version of Armageddon. Traditional Natives believe their prophecies. But many of those who say they are Christian read Revelations of the Bible and say it is either a fairy tale, or something that can only be interpreted by a few privileged elite, some do believe in it. Most ‘modern’ natives see their ancestors stories or celestials and UFOs, as fairy tales. Over the passing years many non natives are realizing the native’s fairy tales are turning into realities.

I don’t see many who believe in the bible going around warning about what is going to happen to mankind. Oh, unless it is done in a negative way that unless you become a Christian or a Muslim you gonna die. Yeah, well that has been so productive - not. By the way, I was a Jehovah’s Witness for some years, so I know what I am speaking about when it comes to a religion that thinks it is the only messenger of God, the only way. But I didn’t see many JW’s show respect for Mother Earth or live in a way that reflected real love for their fellow man. It was all fear, doom and gloom all the way from New York Headquarters. I was excommunicated in 2000. I also saw the same mentality when I was forced to be a Catholic at birth but without the Armageddon, just unnecessary guilt over practically everything and taking sides in politics.

To be honest I deliberately avoided contact with natives, either in Australia or from other countries. Why? Because I was embarrassed about the ‘whites’ that do have a fetish for anything native and I didn’t wish to be put in the same boat. I have always been very aware that most blacks, Asians, Europeans, natives world wide, are not spiritual people. If mankind as a whole were spiritual they would not be living a way of life that has cut them off from Mother Earth and oneness with their fellow man. They would not be chasing the Dollar God. In each culture there is the deeply spiritual, those who are connected with the earth and a genuine love for their fellow human. I only felt comfortable with my white skin after reading what traditional American Native Elders said about whites or any non Native. We were to be welcomed with open arms as it was prophesized that some non natives would come and join themselves to natives as they wanted to follow the laws of the Great Spirit.

I am also aware that Hopi, and other native tribes world wide, don’t like photos taken of sacred things. Traditionals many years ago were faced with this dilemma. What could and couldn’t they show to the public. It has not been easy for them to decide. I notice that on Grandfather Martins site (no I am not aware of the exact relationship Lisa has to Grandpa either but I have had some contact with her) the stone tablets he holds up are replicas. My focus is the Hopi message is = to the message of other natives world wide regarding celestials and UFOs.

By the way, Pigpen, what are your feelings about the suspect delivery of what Grandfather Martin is saying or has said? This thread is about UFOs and celestials. If anyone wishes to discuss native beliefs just say and we can go to the Religion part of UM, unless we can stay on topic about native prophecies and the relevance to celestials and UFOs. But I see native prophecy is all tied in with UFOs and celestials, where Christianity and Islam clearly is the opposite in MO?

Love and peace,
Sam (White Hopi)

I agree. But the very nature of the tribal system (generally closed and closed mouthed) makes it seem more mysterious to whites. Most whites are force fed religion from a very early age. and once they start seeking real spirituality they assume (or seem to assume) that what they dont know about has to be better.

ambelamba - your comments "corn growin injuns" and other comments only point to your own bigotry. "foul xenos" is another. why would anyone give a message to you? Your comments just point to why anyone with sense would not look to the major powers of the world when seeking to spread a message. You prove my point admirably.

Sam- I am no native scholar. The time I have spent on Hopi has been in a domestic capacity. My aunt used to work in the clinic (she is retired now) and my uncle is a missionary. He has spent the last 20 years recording the Hopi language and holding bible study When I visit we spend most of our time visiting with each other. I have been blessed in getting to see some of the dances and participating in a couple of community events. But largely I spend my time trying to keep my big mouth shut!
There is a very firm belief in witches and ghosts on Hopi. Since I am a paranormal researcher I always want to engage conversation about these beliefs and look for evidence. But doing so is like discussing the devil with someone who believes mentioning the devil can summon him. One just does not go there with the Hopi.

I do find it curious how closely the Hopi origin myths resemble the Aboriginal myths. The only example I can think of at the moment is the Sipapu. The Hopi believed to children emerged from a hole in the earth into the world (litterally navel). I believe there is a similar Aboriginal myth is there not?
But when you think about it, this is not too dissimilar from being created of clay. Essentially the message is the same, in the beginning we all emerged from the soil.
Which brings me around to the extra terrestrials. If indeed there was some cosmic visitor in the distant past - perhaps these visitors saw humans as intelligent people and decided to fill them in on how we evolved from the primordial ooze. A discussion on protozoan evolution would be very difficult for a culture with no written language. I can see how this discussion, after thousands of years of being retold verbally, might be simplified to "clay" or "of the earth" or "from a navel".
Ultimately though, will any culture, extra terrestrial or ancient, "save us"? I think we can only save our selves by practicing what we know to be right and true and for the good of everyone without regard to ego.
S

For pete's sake you quoted Richard Boylan, who is the least reliable source of alien contact.

o