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Big Brother Protest Rallies - Globally, July 4th

'A historic event will take place across the globe this 4th of July, called “Independence Day” in America. It will happen in London at the House of Parliament; in the U.S. outside the White House; on both sides of the Canadian-American border near Champaign, New York; in Berlin, Germany; and in a growing number of other cities and locations across the world.

It is a global gathering for freedom, a New World Order Protest Rally, the first time Truthers of all persuasions are joining together to tell the global elite that their infractions against humanity will no longer be tolerated.'

http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/2008/06/...lobally-july-4/


The video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lxcq8fGY9w
questionmark
QUOTE (brave_new_world @ Jun 29 2008, 02:56 PM) *
Big Brother Protest Rallies - Globally, July 4th

'A historic event will take place across the globe this 4th of July, called “Independence Day” in America. It will happen in London at the House of Parliament; in the U.S. outside the White House; on both sides of the Canadian-American border near Champaign, New York; in Berlin, Germany; and in a growing number of other cities and locations across the world.

It is a global gathering for freedom, a New World Order Protest Rally, the first time Truthers of all persuasions are joining together to tell the global elite that their infractions against humanity will no longer be tolerated.'

http://brontebaxter.wordpress.com/2008/06/...lobally-july-4/


The video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lxcq8fGY9w


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chemical-licker
questionmark is only interested in signing his pay increase laugh.gif
stevewinn
How many soap dodgers, i mean protesters are they expecting, and i think they might have to re-think their plans for a protest at Parliament because am sure you cant protest within a certain radius around the commons under new terror laws.

are you going along Brave?
questionmark
QUOTE (chemical-licker @ Jun 29 2008, 03:04 PM) *
questionmark is only interested in signing his pay increase laugh.gif


Hey, these things come and go...when I was real young I was protesting against 'nam and all I got is a nice billy stick on my back.... If these guys can mobilize half a million people world wide I'd be surprised, and that is how much of the populace?

The only real power that people have is at the ballot box (in a democracy, that is...in dictatorships they simply don't have any) and there is where the protesting should take place.

Bill Hill

Big Brother Protest Rallies.

I'll admit, I like reality TV, and I'm quite partial to passing judgement on contestants in the various competitions, but I'd never go and stand around for hours just for the opportunity of booing at them in public.
itsnotoutthere
Lord save us from people with a cause.
(soapdodgers....I like that one steve. laugh.gif )
Chokmah
Pft, protests... All they do is make people laugh and annoy other people.
supercar
This is from the article you linked to:

'A historic event will take place across the globe this 4th of July, called “Independence Day” in the United States. It will happen in London at the House of Parliament; in the U.S. outside the White House; on both sides of the Canadian-American border near Champaign, New York; in Berlin, Germany; and in a growing number of other cities and locations across the world'

Peace? They better have some protesters in Kinshasa:

Congo war-driven crisis kills 45,000 a month: study
Tue Jan 22, 2008 10:29am EST

KINSHASA (Reuters) - War, disease and malnutrition are killing 45,000 Congolese every month in a conflict-driven humanitarian crisis that has claimed 5.4 million victims in nearly a decade, a survey released on Tuesday said. The International Rescue Committee (IRC), which carried out the study with Australia's Burnet Institute, said Democratic Republic of Congo's 1998-2003 war and its aftermath had caused more deaths than any other conflict since World War Two. "Congo's loss is equivalent to the entire population of Denmark or the state of Colorado perishing within a decade," George Rupp, president of the aid group, said in a statement. The findings were published on the day Congo's government and warring eastern rebel and militia factions were due to sign a ceasefire in the hope of halting fighting in the east which has raged on since the nominal end of the 1998-2003 war. Rupp said that although Congo's war formally ended five years ago, "ongoing strife and poverty continue to take a staggering toll". "The conflict and its aftermath, in terms of fatalities, surpass any other since World War II," he added. Malaria, diarrhea, pneumonia and malnutrition, aggravated by conflict, were the top killers in Congo, the survey said. "Most of the deaths are due to easily treatable and preventable diseases through the collapse of health systems and the disruption of livelihoods," said IRC director of global health programs Richard Brennan, one of the survey's authors. Congo has the lowest spending on health care of any country in the world at an average of just $15 per person per year. "If you're in the United States, we spend $6,000 per person per year," Brennan said. The study was conducted between January 2006 and April 2007 in 14,000 households in all the country's 11 provinces. It updated previous surveys which estimated the toll from Congo's war at around 4 million.

http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/i...280201220080122
supercar
Are they planning on having protesters in Bejing? China is financing the Darfur war:

Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:54pm EST

LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Oscar-winning film director Steven Spielberg withdrew on Tuesday as an artistic adviser to the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing over China's policy on the conflict in Sudan's Darfur region. "I find that my conscience will not allow me to continue business as usual," Spielberg said in a statement issued on a day when Nobel Peace laureates sent a letter to China's president urging a change in policies toward its ally Sudan. "At this point, my time and energy must be spent not on Olympic ceremonies, but on doing all I can to help bring an end to the unspeakable crimes against humanity that continue to be committed in Darfur," he added.

China is a leading oil customer and supplier of weapons to Sudan and is accused by critics of providing diplomatic cover for Khartoum as it stonewalls international efforts to send peacekeepers into Darfur. In April, Spielberg wrote a letter to Chinese President Hu Jintao adding his voice to the chorus of people who have protested China's involvement with the Sudanese government over the crisis in Darfur. At that time, Spielberg had asked to meet with Hu, but the president failed to respond. In his statement on Tuesday, Spielberg said Sudan's government shouldered the bulk of responsibility for "these ongoing crimes" in Darfur but said China "should be doing more to end the continuing human suffering there." Earlier on Tuesday, nine Nobel Peace Prize laureates -- including Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Elie Wiesel and Jody Williams -- sent a letter to Hu urging China to uphold Olympic ideals by pressing Sudan to stop atrocities in Darfur. "As the primary economic, military and political partner of the Government of Sudan, and as a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, China has both the opportunity and the responsibility to contribute to a just peace in Darfur," said the letter. "Ongoing failure to rise to this responsibility amounts, in our view, to support for a government that continues to carry out atrocities against its own people," said the letter, released on a day of events by the Save Darfur Coalition. The letter was also signed by U.S. politicians, Olympic medalists and entertainers and delivered to Chinese embassies and missions as part of events in the United States and Europe staged to mark six months before the August 8-24 Olympics.

In more than four years of conflict in Sudan's western region of Darfur, 200,000 people have died and 2.5 million have been driven from their homes, according to estimates from international experts. Khartoum says 9,000 people have died. Sudan's government, in its largest offensive in months, attacked three towns in Darfur on Friday, forcing about 200,000 people from their homes and leading thousands to flee into neighboring eastern Chad. The United States pressed Sudan to stop the campaign. U.S. actress Mia Farrow, who has led the coalition's global campaign to press China to change its policies, gathered a crowd outside the Chinese mission to the United Nations in New York as she tried to deliver the letter.

http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainme...l=0&sp=true
stevewinn
QUOTE (itsnotoutthere @ Jun 29 2008, 01:35 PM) *
Lord save us from people with a cause.
(soapdodgers....I like that one steve. laugh.gif )


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questionmark
QUOTE (supercar @ Jun 29 2008, 05:02 PM) *
Are they planning on having protesters in Bejing? China is financing the Darfur war:

Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:54pm EST

LOS ANGELES/WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Oscar-winning film director Steven Spielberg withdrew on Tuesday as an artistic adviser to the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing over China's policy on the conflict in Sudan's Darfur region. "I find that my conscience will not allow me to continue business as usual," Spielberg said in a statement issued on a day when Nobel Peace laureates sent a letter to China's president urging a change in policies toward its ally Sudan. "At this point, my time and energy must be spent not on Olympic ceremonies, but on doing all I can to help bring an end to the unspeakable crimes against humanity that continue to be committed in Darfur," he added.

China is a leading oil customer and supplier of weapons to Sudan and is accused by critics of providing diplomatic cover for Khartoum as it stonewalls international efforts to send peacekeepers into Darfur. In April, Spielberg wrote a letter to Chinese President Hu Jintao adding his voice to the chorus of people who have protested China's involvement with the Sudanese government over the crisis in Darfur. At that time, Spielberg had asked to meet with Hu, but the president failed to respond. In his statement on Tuesday, Spielberg said Sudan's government shouldered the bulk of responsibility for "these ongoing crimes" in Darfur but said China "should be doing more to end the continuing human suffering there." Earlier on Tuesday, nine Nobel Peace Prize laureates -- including Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Elie Wiesel and Jody Williams -- sent a letter to Hu urging China to uphold Olympic ideals by pressing Sudan to stop atrocities in Darfur. "As the primary economic, military and political partner of the Government of Sudan, and as a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council, China has both the opportunity and the responsibility to contribute to a just peace in Darfur," said the letter. "Ongoing failure to rise to this responsibility amounts, in our view, to support for a government that continues to carry out atrocities against its own people," said the letter, released on a day of events by the Save Darfur Coalition. The letter was also signed by U.S. politicians, Olympic medalists and entertainers and delivered to Chinese embassies and missions as part of events in the United States and Europe staged to mark six months before the August 8-24 Olympics.

In more than four years of conflict in Sudan's western region of Darfur, 200,000 people have died and 2.5 million have been driven from their homes, according to estimates from international experts. Khartoum says 9,000 people have died. Sudan's government, in its largest offensive in months, attacked three towns in Darfur on Friday, forcing about 200,000 people from their homes and leading thousands to flee into neighboring eastern Chad. The United States pressed Sudan to stop the campaign. U.S. actress Mia Farrow, who has led the coalition's global campaign to press China to change its policies, gathered a crowd outside the Chinese mission to the United Nations in New York as she tried to deliver the letter.

http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainme...l=0&sp=true


So, because they don't plan a protest in Beijing it must be wrong...or is that not your statement?

chemical-licker
The only real power that people have is at the ballot box (in a democracy, that is...in dictatorships they simply don't have any) and there is where the protesting should take place.

only MUGabe wins in a democracy laugh.gif
questionmark
QUOTE (chemical-licker @ Jun 29 2008, 06:34 PM) *
The only real power that people have is at the ballot box (in a democracy, that is...in dictatorships they simply don't have any) and there is where the protesting should take place.

only MUGabe wins in a democracy laugh.gif


You actually know that a democracy is not defined by people going to cast a piece of paper into a ballot box, don't you?

chemical-licker
QUOTE (questionmark @ Jun 29 2008, 04:37 PM) *
You actually know that a democracy is not defined by people going to cast a piece of paper into a ballot box, don't you?


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Cradle of Fish
I cant stand conspiracy theorist wackos. Let them protest, then let us reasonable folk who aren't afraid of some make believe NWO push them into the ocean with bulldozers.
chemical-licker
QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jun 29 2008, 07:21 PM) *
I cant stand conspiracy theorist wackos. Let them protest, then let us reasonable folk who aren't afraid of some make believe NWO push them into the ocean with bulldozers.


so anyone that thinks different from you is a whacko. disgust.gif im glad im me yes.gif
el midgetron
QUOTE (supercar @ Jun 29 2008, 02:56 PM) *
Peace? They better have some protesters in Kinshasa:


I doubt its a very good idea for a bunch of unarmed, malnourished and diseased people to gather together in large groups with other unarmed, malnourished and diseased people to become one big swap meet for infectious diseases and targets for the folks who are armed. But then again maybe we could just send some of those refugee camps boxes of sparklers? Good enough?

QUOTE (supercar @ Jun 29 2008, 03:02 PM) *
Are they planning on having protesters in Bejing? China is financing the Darfur war:


The Chinese people are far to well trained to dare something like this. I think they have learned peaceful protests don't work against a regime that will respond to them with tanks. They probably also don't even have access to the information that supports the existance of a NWO. Perhaps the people of Darfur cold pick up the Chinese people's slack? I mean, if they're not to busy trying to stay alive or anything.

QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jun 29 2008, 07:21 PM) *
I cant stand conspiracy theorist wackos. Let them protest, then let us reasonable folk who aren't afraid of some make believe NWO push them into the ocean with bulldozers.


Whoa, hold the boat there Mueller, you are getting way ahead of yourself. We do things according to the history tested formula around here. First you have to dehumanize them as "wackos" or demonize them as enemys of the state (I think you allready covered this step so lets move on). Next, you have to strip them of their rights as citizens, labeling them as "enemy combatants" will do (just put a pen in dubya's hand and promise him a banana). Then you have to round them up into detention camps (bulldozers don't get good gas mileage after all, so you must minimize your effort and maximize your effect). Then you have to kill them so that they don't run away from the bulldozer. Lastly, you can't push them into the ocean, you wouldn't want to have to listen to them damn liberals whining about all the wacko-corpses littering the coast would you? So, you will have to settle for pushing them into mass graves (the digging of which is another bulldozer related job so its really a bonus).

Anyway, the good news is if you are a qualified, licensed bulldozer operator, combined with your enthusiasim in the matter, you are an excellent candidate for employment in the Federal Emergency Management Agency. I think you should send them your resume and the required biometric samples, for their consideration. Good luck dude! Oh, and look for me if you get hired, I'm also a candidate for a postion infront of the buisness end of your bulldozer.
Cradle of Fish
QUOTE (chemical-licker @ Jun 29 2008, 07:58 PM) *
so anyone that thinks different from you is a whacko. disgust.gif im glad im me yes.gif


Nope, but anyone who believes in something so unbelievably contradictory to reality is.


QUOTE (el midgetron @ Jun 30 2008, 01:49 AM) *
Whoa, hold the boat there Mueller, you are getting way ahead of yourself. We do things according to the history tested formula around here. First you have to dehumanize them as "wackos" or demonize them as enemys of the state (I think you allready covered this step so lets move on). Next, you have to strip them of their rights as citizens, labeling them as "enemy combatants" will do (just put a pen in dubya's hand and promise him a banana). Then you have to round them up into detention camps (bulldozers don't get good gas mileage after all, so you must minimize your effort and maximize your effect). Then you have to kill them so that they don't run away from the bulldozer. Lastly, you can't push them into the ocean, you wouldn't want to have to listen to them damn liberals whining about all the wacko-corpses littering the coast would you? So, you will have to settle for pushing them into mass graves (the digging of which is another bulldozer related job so its really a bonus).


How is that dehumanizing them? Animals cant be wackos, to be a wacko you have to have some kind of brain function similar to humans. I think you're trying to paint me as a facist of some sort. In fact, pushing them into the ocean would help them, if you get far enough out into the ocean you're not under any countries jurisdiction so they're basically free from the NWO boogeyman they go on about, they only have to worry when the New Ocean Order is formed.
LightningMunk
the only organization i like is the Free Hugs one, here come teh hotties tongue.gif
el midgetron
QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jun 30 2008, 03:32 AM) *
How is that dehumanizing them? Animals cant be wackos, to be a wacko you have to have some kind of brain function similar to humans.


So you are calling them monkeys? Or do you believe in creationism?

QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jun 30 2008, 03:32 AM) *
I think you're trying to paint me as a facist of some sort.


I am no artist but if I were to paint you as a facist, I would paint you as one with a big curly moustache, wearing a spiked helmet and diaper, riding a wooden rocking horse. That would rule.

Oh and btw, not to rain on your parade but in order to get the wackos into international waters, you would need some kind of super-floaty bulldozer and your gas budget would go through the roof. Perhaps you should look into using really big catapults? Or, an even better idea, get rid of the US's water boundaries altogether and hand those waters over to the UN. I bet no one has ever thought of that before thumbsup.gif


Purplos
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their infractions against humanity will no longer be tolerated.


And then they'll do what? Take over the government? Riot? Sing Cum-bay-ya really, really loud over and over again?

No longer be tolerated how?
Cradle of Fish
QUOTE (el midgetron @ Jun 30 2008, 03:19 AM) *
So you are calling them monkeys? Or do you believe in creationism?


Nope, they're human beings prone to all the same delusions as the rest of us, they just take it to the next level and further.


QUOTE
Oh and btw, not to rain on your parade but in order to get the wackos into international waters, you would need some kind of super-floaty bulldozer and your gas budget would go through the roof. Perhaps you should look into using really big catapults? Or, an even better idea, get rid of the US's water boundaries altogether and hand those waters over to the UN. I bet no one has ever thought of that before thumbsup.gif


You forget that I'm bankrolled by the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. wink2.gif
Fluffybunny
Moving this to a more appropriate area...
el midgetron
QUOTE (Cradle of Fish @ Jun 30 2008, 03:54 AM) *
You forget that I'm bankrolled by the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. wink2.gif


Sweet, so you are confirming the existance of super-floaty bulldozers. I knew it all along.

QUOTE (Fluffybunny @ Jun 30 2008, 04:01 AM) *
Moving this to a more appropriate area...


Is that because of the topic's subject matter or due to the discussion which followed? Just curious.
Fluffybunny
"New World Order Protest" was the first clue that it was best suited for the conspiricies section...
unit
bah.. i clicked in here for this?

cool @ brave new world tho' ..i might hafta do my part here in ozzyland on the 4th thumbsup.gif
el midgetron
QUOTE (Fluffybunny @ Jun 30 2008, 05:35 AM) *
"New World Order Protest" was the first clue that it was best suited for the conspiricies section...


So you don't believe there will be protests? lol jk

I am honestly not being a smart mouth but it seems like even if the people involved in a news story are "wackos" that it doesn't really negate the actual events they perpetuate. For example, I doubt anyone here would agree with or believe the philosophies/theories of the Westboro Baptist Church and combined with their status as a cult it seems no more "conspiratorial" when they go around to the funerals of dead soldiers with "god hates f*gs" signs than when another group wants to demonstrate their marginalized views. Yet I have never seen a thread about the westboro bastist church's protests moved to the conspiracies section. I assume its because its not about their views or theories, but about what they are actually doing on the streets which validates it as actual "news". Yet, this doesn't seem to be true in the case of the NWO protests?

I guess to me it just seems contradictory to move one topic because its about a people protesting a NWO, yet allow another about people protesting in favor of god's hate for f*gs. So my question is until when does the "motivation" outweigh the "action" on the legitimate "news" scale?

I am not challanging the decisions of the mods, just wondering how exactly it works. peace ~
Fluffybunny
fair anough question...I try to keep the New World Order, Conspiricy related stuff together. If I see "9/11 caused by rabid chickens hich on crack purchased from Bush on Texas ranch" Well yes it could be news, but the conspiricy aspect overides the potential newsworthyness.

It gets old to have to continually move threads about things that have absolutely no news value to the conspiricy section because a person found a picture take 20 years ago of a plane that has contrails coming off of it, and they use that as the reasoning for wanting it on the headline section as proof that the government taking over and the New World Order...yadda yadda yadda...the sky is falling...

I will be the first to admit that not everyone is going to see things the same; which is why you are always welcome to take your concerns to Saru. It is a case by case judgement...conspiricy stuff I keep together for the fact that there has been such an issue in the past of trying to justify EVERYTHING as groundbreaking news, when it is not.

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