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Abecrombie
Just need some feedback from the members to see what you all think becauuse personaly i think it is moving too fast for my pocketbook.

amunst other things as well.

Abecrombie
yes a member who is always having problems trying to stay connected to life due to the technoligy race.
boo hoo . lol

your opinions welcome in this matter thanks again. dontgetit.gif
NeoGenesis
Technology is what I live for in some respects.Have a real eye for new inventions and gadgets.

Cheers thumbsup.gif
Abecrombie
QUOTE (NeoGenesis @ Jun 29 2008, 06:36 AM) *
Technology is what I live for in some respects.Have a real eye for new inventions and gadgets.

Cheers thumbsup.gif



can I join in it sounds too good to be going anywhere but somewhere successfuk or at least outs food on the table. it sounds as recognizable for my ideas and inventions i have too. tell me some secrets or advice to get on that train if you can. seriously
just go for it right ?
im oday.n the verg of something bigger than muself so if you cant make room for me perhaps in the futre i can make room for you .


any suggestions while i wait for creative ongoings to yet be recoginzed by potentialy the people thaat fuel that train. catch my drift, thats it im riding on the wind here . lol hey and thats ok cause i can still smell the flowers in their somewhere . no im kidding sort of.

Abecrombie

thanks for your input anyone else care tooo share.? including NeoGenisis , Ill catch you sometime in chat well chat. cool.
Incorrigible1
Is it just too difficult to spell the title of the thread correctly?
maysu
I think it could be faster to be honest. I mean if it were to go even faster we would be able to further and further into space and other truths, just imagine finding alien life outside? wouldnt that be weird?

QUOTE (Incorrigible1 @ Jun 30 2008, 12:19 AM) *
Is it just too difficult to spell the title of the thread correctly?



It's not a spelling bee.....it's an internet forum....if it were a forum about the english language I would understand....maybe lay back and relax a little?
MID
QUOTE (Abecrombie @ Jun 29 2008, 09:11 AM) *
Just need some feedback from the members to see what you all think becauuse personaly i think it is moving too fast for my pocketbook.

amunst other things as well.

Abecrombie
yes a member who is always having problems trying to stay connected to life due to the technoligy race.
boo hoo . lol

your opinions welcome in this matter thanks again. dontgetit.gif



I think the nature of your query is most telling.

You think it's moving too fast for your pocketbook.
This seems to imply that you feel compelled to buy it...whatever it is, and for whatever reason. This is an effect of marketing and it's ability to capture your attention to the "necessities" of life (as perceived by "Madison Avenue", whoever they really are).

You can't afford to keep up...and you feel, deep down inside, that you should keep up. I would like to know what being "connected to life" has to do with technological advancements...

There is at this time, no substantive data to draw any particular conclusions from as pertains to the poll. However, I thoroughly expect that once a significant sampling of people vote, you will likely see "moving too slowly" checked off more than any other opinion.


It currently stands 3 to 2 against the likely most reasonable opinion, which is "used in places deemed not necessary" (it is...in large part). However, even that option doesn't explain the whole story of technology and what it's done to society as a whole (in large part...there are exceptions). Nor does it entirely explain why people are in general, dumber than they were when this technology was invented, less self-reliant, and more dependent than perhaps ever before.



I would analyze the options as follows:

TOO FAST:
An undertandable sentiment, but it is a reflection of the fact that technology has advanced without a concurrent understanding of its purpose and its proper use. It is likely also a reflection that advances happen so fast that some people have no idea what the hell is going on, nor see a purpose for what's going on. Marketing, marketing, marketing. That's OK, but relinquishing intelligence in the face of a marketing scheme is decidedly bad. People who think it's too fast probably deep down inside realize this.

TOO SLOW:
Exactly the opposite in large part. People get used to unnecessary convenience and comfort in their lives, and once those conveniences and comforts advance at a rate that robs imagination, energy and mental effort, people get addicted. It can't be fast enough.

JUST RIGHT:
I don't know what that opinion might mean. I could postulate that perhaps it's the opinion of those who understand technology, and its proper usage, and that in their opinion they expect advancements as we've seen...but again, I don't honestly know what someone who says it's "just right" might be thinking. Personally, I think technological expansion is expected, but as to right or not, I think that's a matter of looking at how it's used, and in large part, that doesn't feel too good.

UNNECESSARY:
Absolutely not. It is logical, and expected. Unnecessary might be a term used for the markets in which technology is hawked and used in, but the idea that technological advancement is unnecessary defies humanity itself. Technological expansion is a no-brainer.

OVER-MARKETED:

Depends on what area it's being marketed in. Largely, yes, it is over-marketed.


USED IN PLACES DEEMED NOT NECESSARY:

That depends on what people think is necessary.
Generally, this is absolutely correct.

To wit: A cell phone is not a bad idea. It has a use which can be very effective. However, marketing has placed this device on the necessity list for everyone. It is not, and has never been a necessity for the vast majority of people who own one and use one...all the time, and the fact is, it has and is being used in a most detrimental manner every single day.

The microcircuitry that allowed the advent of the hand-held calculator (something that came directly out of the space program) was a miraculous thing! It allowed those of us who used to sit around with pads of paper and pencils at the ready, trig tables and slide rules standing by, to get rid of most of it and do basic arithmetical functions, and tedious computations, with the push of an amazing button!

However, the idea that such a thing would be a standard in elementary school classrooms in a short time never entered our minds, and is in fact an apalling abuse of a mind.

NOT SURE:

Not sure is not sure. It indicates no thought on the matter at all.


OTHER:

Other is nebulous and needs to be defined by the voter....


JUST PERFECT:

In my mind, indicates someone who realizes that technology does progress, and likes it. The reasons for this are not defined, and may run the gamut of possibilities. I suspect people who vote "just perfect" have actually never thougfht about where this technology came from or what it's actual purpose is.

UNDECIDED:

Not all too much different from NOT SURE. I think this is a redundant category.







FluffyMonkey
I dont know if its too fast, but one thing i can say for sure as a game developer. Its not slow. Look back just 10 years, it was possible for people to make commercial video games with small teams of 3 and 4. Now days games can take hundreds to a thousand people per project and still take 3 years and upward to make. Its astounding how much change happens in even just 1 year.
MID
QUOTE (FluffyMonkey @ Jul 2 2008, 02:35 PM) *
I dont know if its too fast, but one thing i can say for sure as a game developer. Its not slow. Look back just 10 years, it was possible for people to make commercial video games with small teams of 3 and 4. Now days games can take hundreds to a thousand people per project and still take 3 years and upward to make. Its astounding how much change happens in even just 1 year.



I think it's astounding that "hundreds to a thousand" people are actually involved in making a game.


You're right, an amazing amount of change can happen technologically in just a short time, but the effect of this particular change is what I've addressed....
Atheist God
Not fast enough... I want to spend my fortune becoming immortal now god dammit.
ROGER
Don't attempt to be reasonable or logical. In an attempt to make an easier life for our kids and Grand Kids, We the OLD Farts now see a generation of young people who want the new technology to Feed them, entertain them, and think for them. They Hate School and want to spend their free time locked in a room Playing Alternate Reality Games. Take all their tech away, they sit in a chair complaining of being BORED!

I know this is not all the young people. But I bet each of you knows some one like I just described. And they are the next generation to run the World. I see lots of trouble in a few years.
Atheist God
QUOTE (ROGER @ Jul 4 2008, 05:26 PM) *
Don't attempt to be reasonable or logical. In an attempt to make an easier life for our kids and Grand Kids, We the OLD Farts now see a generation of young people who want the new technology to Feed them, entertain them, and think for them. They Hate School and want to spend their free time locked in a room Playing Alternate Reality Games. Take all their tech away, they sit in a chair complaining of being BORED!

I know this is not all the young people. But I bet each of you knows some one like I just described. And they are the next generation to run the World. I see lots of trouble in a few years.


Every generation says that about the next generation that will inherit the earth... They said this would happen when the television became affordable for people and it didn't.
MID
QUOTE (ROGER @ Jul 4 2008, 06:26 PM) *
Don't attempt to be reasonable or logical. In an attempt to make an easier life for our kids and Grand Kids, We the OLD Farts now see a generation of young people who want the new technology to Feed them, entertain them, and think for them. They Hate School and want to spend their free time locked in a room Playing Alternate Reality Games. Take all their tech away, they sit in a chair complaining of being BORED!

I know this is not all the young people. But I bet each of you knows some one like I just described. And they are the next generation to run the World. I see lots of trouble in a few years.




Yep. Me too, ROG.

MID
QUOTE (Atheist God @ Jul 4 2008, 06:43 PM) *
Every generation says that about the next generation that will inherit the earth... They said this would happen when the television became affordable for people and it didn't.



Huh?

Television did become affordable.
So did all sorts of other microcircuitry devices.
ROGER
Your probably right Atheist, but I had the displeasure of working the Man Power department for a local manufacturing plant not long ago. I had a lot of young people fresh out of High School Applying for positions where simple 8 th grade math was needed. They couldn't do it even with a calculator. Using simple every day tools for machine set up. They didn't have a clue.
With warning signs posted at every work sight, when an accident happened, I was told "No one told me!" . Seems they Hated to READ!

So any way thats where my previous Rant came from. My apologies.
Atheist God
QUOTE (ROGER @ Jul 5 2008, 01:55 PM) *
Your probably right Atheist, but I had the displeasure of working the Man Power department for a local manufacturing plant not long ago. I had a lot of young people fresh out of High School Applying for positions where simple 8 th grade math was needed. They couldn't do it even with a calculator. Using simple every day tools for machine set up. They didn't have a clue.
With warning signs posted at every work sight, when an accident happened, I was told "No one told me!" . Seems they Hated to READ!

So any way thats where my previous Rant came from. My apologies.


I attribute this to a failing education system.

I myself am on in my mid 20's and generally find most people younger then myself quite intelligent. Mind you were in different nations that have different education systems.

I have worked with a lot of rtards who have ended up with chemical burns etc because they like to goof around and not pay attention to what they are doing. When I was 17 I had my first and only accident at work and nearly broke my leg at no fault of my own but rather someone goofing off.

I know where your coming from lol.
MID
QUOTE (ROGER @ Jul 5 2008, 02:55 PM) *
Your probably right Atheist, but I had the displeasure of working the Man Power department for a local manufacturing plant not long ago. I had a lot of young people fresh out of High School Applying for positions where simple 8 th grade math was needed. They couldn't do it even with a calculator. Using simple every day tools for machine set up. They didn't have a clue.
With warning signs posted at every work sight, when an accident happened, I was told "No one told me!" . Seems they Hated to READ!

So any way thats where my previous Rant came from. My apologies.




I think your rant was justified, ROG.
Been exactly where you've been working with some young people...fresh out of high school manufacturing jobs.

It is often utterly amazing what is missing from basic education....
DONTEATUS
Well its our fault here in America! we need to teach our children well as the song went! My kid is getting enough flack from the TASK test that do nonthing more than frustrate the hungry minds. We need a major overhaul in this country we are so behind in many ways.Math skills and siceince history ,art ,even health,sports . Some sports are a diversion to all that get sucked into the system of trying to make a sports star outta your kid. We need a balance of this in todays schools. My 12 yr old is loveing his math,and social studies,ect in school,why? Because there are two! count -emTWO! parents whom are part of his education.I know that can not be the case in some of American homes today but It needs to be brought back into the standard of up bringing .Not One person family type disfunctional home life. IF so then we as a country need to really help those people. Its the youth of today that are the next to have to figure out the solutions that will need to be solved. The future is not that Bright to even need those shades folks.We better get with it,Now. Although we seem to be trying many all arounf this country are starting programs that include more sicience math ,tech levels of education ,My hats off to these companys and orginazitions. Keep-em-Thinking,Keep-em-Growing.
Abecrombie
thanks for all the good input. I do not feel aliened anymore amonst my own thoughts but tossed in a salad of all sorts of different things. So thanks . Good reads and I need to go so I can finish watching the usual suspects. lol

Abecrombie
MissMelsWell
QUOTE (MID @ Jul 2 2008, 05:19 PM) *
I think it's astounding that "hundreds to a thousand" people are actually involved in making a game.


You're right, an amazing amount of change can happen technologically in just a short time, but the effect of this particular change is what I've addressed....


I think hundreds of thousands is astonishing to build a game too... and probably inaccurate. It only takes 5,000 people, including program managers, marketers and other administrative staff to build all of Windows.

My daughter works for Microsoft in the Xbox division.. they have MAYBE 4,000 people including contract testers, and administrative staff. 9,000 if you including support--during the holidays.\

I'd like to see technology move faster. Both my daughter and I are Girl Geek Gadget Freaks. LOL. She more-so than I actually. I'll wait till the reviews come in before I splurge on a new gadget, and it generally has to be useful to me. My daughter on the other hand, if it's new and fun, she's GOT to have it. LOL

EDIT: Well bust my bubble!!! I misread that post, he said hundreds TO a thousand.. not hundreds of thousands. Geeze.

That IS accurate.
Pavot
QUOTE (Abecrombie @ Jun 29 2008, 02:11 PM) *
Just need some feedback from the members to see what you all think becauuse personaly i think it is moving too fast for my pocketbook.

amunst other things as well.

Abecrombie
yes a member who is always having problems trying to stay connected to life due to the technoligy race.
boo hoo . lol

your opinions welcome in this matter thanks again. dontgetit.gif



This will come across as a wee bit urgent but more so it is to the point and straight up and clean. and it is just my own opinion, and it may very well be echoed by many others, and I know if they could the Creatures of Nature would be stating these facts and heck they already are shouting it, many with their last gasping breathes...

I Firmly believe it could be much faster in aiding in the advances in the Medical fields of research study and developments and delivering of Cures, but then the Extremely Long delays within the Medical field breakthroughs and cures are due to as I strongly believe to be from the fact that there is a Money making industry in it all, and if not for the “Human Greed Factor” Many illnesses and diseases’ would have been cured a long time ago…Technologies can and do very well help human kind and could in most all fields be used for the bettering of Human kind, however, I also feel very strongely here and I do back my believe 100 percent that Technology and the industrialized world has devastated the environments and extinguish/whipped out/killed/and Mutated many of natures natural species, species that never even got a vote to be extinguished for the bettering/ worsening/ advancements and progress for Human kind, these Creatures of Nature and there environments trashed and ruined many Species gone forever. The worlds environment of Nature will rejuvenate and heel, but only after Humans beings ether pull it all with an everybody getting into and staying into involved 100 percent effort, or the other way of the world’s full on environmental recovery would be to have Mankind removed and at the rate the things are going and rapidly escalating these Technological advances are going, that last worse case (For Human Kind) scenario just may very well be the happening … So how’s that answer for too fast or too slow…

Pavot
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