I dunno if this has been posted here before but i saw this video a couple days ago and it had me thinking, are we all really going to hell and have to save ourselves. I think thats what this video is trying to get across im also wondering if anyone else has seen this video. What do you think about this.

This video is made up of 4 parts about 20 mins each its mostly a speech but also has some visuals, I think its worth a watch. I AM NOT THE ORIGINAL POSTER ON YOUTUBE

Part 1: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RhfsxIS5fG8&feature=related

Part 2: http://youtube.com/watch?v=y1f4W3nGiTM&feature=related

Part 3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=n-GgTfokMxo&feature=related

Part 4: http://youtube.com/watch?v=CBUD1qRli4Y&feature=related

What do you think are we going to hell, or is this guy just crazy

I am a neo-Celtic Druid, I don't believe in hell. So I don't think anyone goes to hell. You are reincarnated until you get it right.

The trouble with reincarnation is that you don't get to know who you are a reincarnate of.

The Christian doctrine is a more soothing belief in resurrection of the dead and ultimate happy life forever and ever.

On the other hand, you say you get reincarnated until you get it right; then what?

I don't mind being reincarnated again and again, that is the next best thing to indefinite duration of life.

That is why if I were a Buddhist I would take the care to make sure that I don't get to Nirvana, but always leave something still wanting in me to do karma for, and thus I get to come back by reincarantion or rebirth again and again.

The downside here is that Buddhism does not guarantee you will get to know which person your present identity is a reincarnation or rebirth of.

But if you are smart you can claim that you are a rencarnate or rebirth of Aristotle or Buddha or Confucius or Howard Hughes, etc., and who is wiser to challenge your claim to being this or that -- you can always answer that you are adopting a changed comportment for the sake of doing better karma.



About hell, since it's been in Western civilization since time immemorial and also in several other civilizations, that is always some minor worry however you claim to be a non-believer in hell.

So, better to just be good, it's no big deal anyway; you observe government law don't you, so it is just a little bit more to be a morally correct person.





oslove

I dunno, but our swimming pool came with an instructional video on how to set it up.



We never watched it either.

Take a look at this: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_y...info-pMpaQDMtaa

I think it's important to question religion itself...but you have to also ask...why do you believe? fear of death? wanting to live forever? scared of hell?

Salaam (Peace)

Curious. Is there any type of "salvation" and/or "redemption" concept in your religious/spiritual path???

Remember this Oslove: Just because an idea is comforting doesn't bring any more truth to it.

Just because the concept of living in eternal paradise seems more soothing and appealing doesn't give it any more merit then reincarnation. Past lives aren't remembered in order to give oneself a clean slate for experience and learning. How would you like to be reincarnated in the 1700's as an African American slave when you were a wealthy Caucasian in a previous life? Not pleasant, hm? That would be why we don't naturally remember our past lives. We can access these memories through past life regression which, although it's accuracy is debatable, gives us a look into possible past lives.

I have a question for you Oslove, what happens once we get to heaven? Do we just sit there all hunky-dory for the rest of time? Sounds rather boring if you ask me. And we wouldn't be able to do the activities we do now, seeing as we'd have thousands, if not millions or billions, of people from all stretches of time and countries. People from 15th century England wouldn't be able to handle the technology of present day, or even future, Japan. It's just not practical, I believe.

Hell has most certainly not been in Western civilization since the beginning of time. Yes, the Europeans believed in hell, but certainly not to the degree as we see it now. Plus, the United States was NOT founded as a Christian nation, as we can see in the treaty with Tripoli, which was written in 1796 by George Washington himself, and signed by John Adams a year later.

"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Musselmen; and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."


Hm, well, we can see that "hell" has no application whatsoever in our government of our nation from it's conception. It most certainly has not been a focal point of the western civilizations, even before the US. Yes, earlier religions had spiritual worlds and underworlds, but there is NO other religion that has a hell like the Abrahamic religions where sinners are punished in never-ending flames for all eternity. Show me one other example and I'll be impressed.

We don't really know anything about whether there is life after death and hell or heaven.

But as we live and breathe, it is a wise person in my opinion and I observe it myself to entertain the belief of a better life and a better or best end of the world scenario with the resurrection of the dead and happiness ever after -- except for those who get or find themselves in hell.


For your information, if ever I get to heaven or make it to the resurrection of the just at the end of the world, I will try my best to do something about my fellow humans groaning in hell where:

the pain will be so agonizing that you will gnash your teeth;
for those who are toothless, not to worry: God will provide.

[ Comic relief only ]

Lighten up, okay? It is again a wise man who is able to see humor in everything, and also thus fashion his heart and mind as to lead a more cheerful existence than otherwise at the risk of dyspepsia (indigestion or stomach ulcers).


When you read my posts, take it in a spirit of bantering.



As regards hell, I being human it does give me a very minor worry and dread; and therefore also acting like a wise man, I do the little extra to lead a morally correct life in addition to obeying the law of the land faithfully -- that is why if a vote were taken, I am the most lawful and ethically righteous neighbor in the whole block -- did you say I am a hypocrite? Touché.



oslove

Pagan here don't believe in Hell...
Creators Blessings
LW

I don’t know if the author/hellboy (Wiese) actually knows how credibility is supposed to function, and I highly suspect it is a marketing piece, but hey, now that's what I call entertainment

So this is what happens when you mix up stupid people and religion. It's hell on earth.

I'm a Christian, that's even one of my names I believe that in hell will go those that have totally abandoned God in their life. Which I think are those who pray for Satan, and those who are the antichrists.

Remember that in the Book of Revelation Jesus mentions that he has the keys to heaven and hell, and originally it was said he descended to hell and then on the 3rd day ascended to Heaven. He freed the souls that were in hell, died for our sins. And he forgives us for our sins, if we even try to ask for that.

I also believe that people of other religions can get to heaven. Take the buddhists for example, they have their own beliefs on which they do trust, but they live their lifes well. They're not evil. I think how the Jehovah's Witnesses say of all these other religions worshipping Satan, is wrong. Read the Bible and you may understand most of these things.

I break the the first three Commandments everyday of my life.
1. I am the Lord your God
The Abrahamic God is not my gods.

2. You shall have no other gods before me
I have many other God.

3. You shall not make for yourself an idol
I have two sitting on my alter.

Under the morality standards of Christendom I am not moral. Why would I dishonor my Gods to follow a God not in my faith out of fear. I would lose their respect and their help. That makes no sense to me.


What do I need with salvation or redemption. There is no original sin. I am a child of the Earth my Gods are my teachers. If I mess up it is up to me to make it right. They understand I am a child, you do not kill you child or him in a burning pit, because he makes a mistake. You guide him to make the right decisions.

The full video is posted here in one part:

http://www.spiritlessons.com/Documents/Bil...InHell_Text.htm

i thought about doin that ^ rofl