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biggentlej
We have the speed of light and the speed of sound all figured out. But there is another question? The speed of thought, how are its barriers broken? How fast does that energy (prayer) travel. Just something deep to ponder on?
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (biggentlej @ Jun 29 2008, 06:47 PM) *
We have the speed of light and the speed of sound all figured out. But there is another question? The speed of thought, how are its barriers broken? How fast does that energy (prayer) travel. Just something deep to ponder on?

http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/23027
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen06/gen06081.htm

There isn't really a "speed of thought". It's technically referred to as "reaction time" in science, and it's been clocked at mere hundreds of milliseconds, or thousandths of a second.
danielost
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 08:54 PM) *
http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/23027
http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/gen06/gen06081.htm

There isn't really a "speed of thought". It's technically referred to as "reaction time" in science, and it's been clocked at mere hundreds of milliseconds, or thousandths of a second.



He isn't talking about reaction time. He is talking about being able to travel 4 light years or 14 billion light years as fast as you can think about it.
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (danielost @ Jun 29 2008, 07:00 PM) *
He isn't talking about reaction time. He is talking about being able to travel 4 light years or 14 billion light years as fast as you can think about it.

Thought isn't a physical substance, so it doesn't travel anything. Thought is etherial, so it cannot be clocked at any time because it doesn't exist as a physical certainty. This is kind of a moot point, now that I think about it. Besides, God answers prayer, so it doesn't matter if the speed of thought can be measured or not, because God would answer prayers whenever he darn well wanted to, IF he exists, that is.
Lt_Ripley
I don't know about prayer . but speed of thought is interesting. I don't see it in a communication way any faster than say using the phone . you speak and your heard.

but the thought of traveling at the speed of thought is interesting. what if one could. ( if reality is what we think it to be )
~ MacDDT ~
Isn't it an electric impulse?
danielost
QUOTE (Lt_Ripley @ Jun 29 2008, 09:06 PM) *
I don't know about prayer . but speed of thought is interesting. I don't see it in a communication way any faster than say using the phone . you speak and your heard.

but the thought of traveling at the speed of thought is interesting. what if one could. ( if reality is what we think it to be )



But think of the other end of the phone is 4 light years away.


This by the way is how God travels or so I have been told.
TheLivingDead
I have to agree that its immeasurable since its not a physcial certainty. Its not something we can detect, and in my opinion, not something we will ever be able to.
Darklight
QUOTE (~ MacDDT ~ @ Jun 30 2008, 01:09 AM) *
Isn't it an electric impulse?


Salaam (Peace)

I was thinking that it is electrical impulses too. If thats the case then thought would move at the speed of light...right???

~ MacDDT ~
QUOTE (TheLivingDead @ Jun 29 2008, 10:22 PM) *
I have to agree that its immeasurable since its not a physcial certainty. Its not something we can detect, and in my opinion, not something we will ever be able to.

In time we will. There is nothing "magical" about it. It's real so eventually it will be detected, identified and measured
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (~ MacDDT ~ @ Jun 29 2008, 07:45 PM) *
In time we will. There is nothing "magical" about it. It's real so eventually it will be detected, identified and measured

Yes, it's electrical impulses within the brain. We already know they're there and happen in hundreds of milliseconds. Look at that, we have our answer.

Oh! I recall that in Biology we learned impulses within the brain occur at a speed of around 200 miles per hour, or something along those lines. Not anywhere near the speed of light, however.
danielost
QUOTE (~ MacDDT ~ @ Jun 29 2008, 09:45 PM) *
In time we will. There is nothing "magical" about it. It's real so eventually it will be detected, identified and measured



Actually they are already measuring it. rudimentary measurements
~ MacDDT ~
QUOTE (danielost @ Jun 29 2008, 10:52 PM) *
Actually they are already measuring it. rudimentary measurements

It's just a matter of time before we will fully understand how the thought process works
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (~ MacDDT ~ @ Jun 29 2008, 08:02 PM) *
It's just a matter of time before we will fully understand how the thought process works

I'm fairly certain we already do. I'd consult a neurologist to be sure, but I'm nearly 100% certain we already understand how impulses travel throughout the brain.
~ MacDDT ~
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 11:03 PM) *
I'm fairly certain we already do. I'd consult a neurologist to be sure, but I'm nearly 100% certain we already understand how impulses travel throughout the brain.

that's true but we still don't fully understand every thing about it ( like what starts the process in the first place)
danielost
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 10:03 PM) *
I'm fairly certain we already do. I'd consult a neurologist to be sure, but I'm nearly 100% certain we already understand how impulses travel throughout the brain.



We will not be able to read thoughts. Only one person can read thoughts and that is God. That being said, I think a person can broadcasts his/her thoughts.
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (danielost @ Jun 29 2008, 08:08 PM) *
We will not be able to read thoughts. Only one person can read thoughts and that is God. That being said, I think a person can broadcasts his/her thoughts.

Oh? So I'm going to guess you don't believe in psychic abilities. However, I've been able to read things about people that they never speak of. It's happened to me, so I'm willing to say that more than just a deity can read the thoughts of mortal beings. Also, I enjoy playing a game with my friends wherein we think of a color and the other person tries to read their mind and see what color they're thinking of. My friend is so awfully accurate at this it's nearly frightening. She one guessed correctly 7/8 times. That's considered "above the probability of chance".
danielost
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 10:15 PM) *
Oh? So I'm going to guess you don't believe in psychic abilities. However, I've been able to read things about people that they never speak of. It's happened to me, so I'm willing to say that more than just a deity can read the thoughts of mortal beings. Also, I enjoy playing a game with my friends wherein we think of a color and the other person tries to read their mind and see what color they're thinking of. My friend is so awfully accurate at this it's nearly frightening. She one guessed correctly 7/8 times. That's considered "above the probability of chance".



I did say that you could broadcast your thoughts. Such as thinking of a color so your friend could recieve the thought thus knowing what you were thinking about.
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (danielost @ Jun 29 2008, 08:20 PM) *
I did say that you could broadcast your thoughts. Such as thinking of a color so your friend could recieve the thought thus knowing what you were thinking about.

And.... Isn't that reading minds?
danielost
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 10:24 PM) *
And.... Isn't that reading minds?



Was she or have you ever got into someones personal thoughts with out them knowing you trying to do it.
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (danielost @ Jun 29 2008, 08:25 PM) *
Was she or have you ever got into someones personal thoughts with out them knowing you trying to do it.

I have. It's really weird, and I can't control it. I don't know if she has.
danielost
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 10:33 PM) *
I have. It's really weird, and I can't control it. I don't know if she has.



if it wasn't a really good guess. Then if god is the only one who can read thoughts maybe he relayed them to you.
danielost
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 10:33 PM) *
I have. It's really weird, and I can't control it. I don't know if she has.



if it wasn't a really good guess. Then if god is the only one who can read thoughts maybe he relayed them to you.
danielost
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 10:33 PM) *
I have. It's really weird, and I can't control it. I don't know if she has.



if it wasn't a really good guess. Then if god is the only one who can read thoughts maybe he relayed them to you.
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (danielost @ Jun 29 2008, 08:36 PM) *
if it wasn't a really good guess. Then if god is the only one who can read thoughts maybe he relayed them to you.

It's happened multiple times, however, and why would any deity do something so trivial?
danielost
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 29 2008, 10:40 PM) *
It's happened multiple times, however, and why would any deity do something so trivial?



Trivial to you or him. and why not. The apostles thought the same thing when the children came in to play with christ.
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (danielost @ Jun 29 2008, 08:42 PM) *
Trivial to you or him. and why not. The apostles thought the same thing when the children came in to play with christ.

Really, why would ANYONE do anything so trivial? "Oh here, let me give you two words or a phrase of meaningless information that this person is thinking of to strengthen your belief against me". Yeah, realllly practical.
Mattshark
QUOTE (Lady Otterwynnd @ Jun 30 2008, 04:33 AM) *
I have. It's really weird, and I can't control it. I don't know if she has.

There are other explanations though L.O. When you know someone well enough you can generally gauge what they are thinking quite well, even to the extent of guessing colours. Since thoughts are however chemical processes you could simply have "smelled" the thought (as odd as that sounds).
Lady Otterwynnd
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Jun 29 2008, 08:49 PM) *
There are other explanations though L.O. When you know someone well enough you can generally gauge what they are thinking quite well, even to the extent of guessing colours. Since thoughts are however chemical processes you could simply have "smelled" the thought (as odd as that sounds).

Hm, you could be right Matt. Smelling thoughts? How utterly ingenious! Ah the wonders of evolution....

Although, it's happened with strangers a few times as well, and I can't attest to why that would happen. If not the supernatural, perhaps I'm good at guessing?
momentarylapseofreason
I kind of believe in thought travel or whatever.

We had a roomate sharing our house with us a long time ago.

One night I woke up in the middle of the night having an overwhelming feeling that something was wrong.

I sat up in bed and my husband noticed that I was sitting up in the dark.

He asked me what's wrong and I explained that is was stupid but I felt that Artie was trying to slice his wrists. (I actually said slice his wrists-not he's trying to hurt himself) He said that's ridiculous go back to sleep. I agreed and went back to sleep.

The next morning I was happy to see Artie up and kicking.(actually solemn-serious )

The day after that, I was cleaning the bathroom and while emptying the trash can I noticed a bunch of paper towels soaked full of dry blood.

As if someone had been bleeding very heavily and blotted it up.

Then I noticed Artie was wearing long sleeved shirts which was unusual (we lived in the desert).

Of course my suspicion was spiked and I confronted him with it and it turned out to be true and happened on that night that I had the strong impression or feeling. ( I can't describe it-it's just knowing.)

He had been drinking and was depressed because his girlfriend had ended their relationship and it did happen this
night, while we were sleeping.

I was never close to this guy and never felt any connection to him and didn't care for him much for certain reasons.

But incidents like these have happened numerous times, so I do get the impression that thoughts/feelings can be transferred. It usually has something to do with very intense emotions. (anger,sadness rage etc.)
danielost
QUOTE (momentarylapseofreason @ Jun 29 2008, 11:37 PM) *
I kind of believe in thought travel or whatever.

We had a roomate sharing our house with us a long time ago.

One night I woke up in the middle of the night having an overwhelming feeling that something was wrong.

I sat up in bed and my husband noticed that I was sitting up in the dark.

He asked me what's wrong and I explained that is was stupid but I felt that Artie was trying to slice his wrists. (I actually said slice his wrists-not he's trying to hurt himself) He said that's ridiculous go back to sleep. I agreed and went back to sleep.

The next morning I was happy to see Artie up and kicking.(actually solemn-serious )

The day after that, I was cleaning the bathroom and while emptying the trash can I noticed a bunch of paper towels soaked full of dry blood.

As if someone had been bleeding very heavily and blotted it up.

Then I noticed Artie was wearing long sleeved shirts which was unusual (we lived in the desert).

Of course my suspicion was spiked and I confronted him with it and it turned out to be true and happened on that night that I had the strong impression or feeling. ( I can't describe it-it's just knowing.)

He had been drinking and was depressed because his girlfriend had ended their relationship and it did happen this
night, while we were sleeping.

I was never close to this guy and never felt any connection to him and didn't care for him much for certain reasons.

But incidents like these have happened numerous times, so I do get the impression that thoughts/feelings can be transferred. It usually has something to do with very intense emotions. (anger,sadness rage etc.)



When you woke and sat up you probable brought him back. So that he stopped. In other words you may have made him feel guilty about it enough to stop it. But since he was drunk he may not have known what made him stop.
Leonardo
Having heard some anecdotal evidence of remote viewing, I wonder if this alleged ability operates at relativistic speed (the speed of light)? I would think it does, as with normal vision, but it would be an interesting experiment (assuming Remote Viewing actually works).
Omnaka
Hi, It is My experience That spirit, is pure consciousness with out the body, as such Pure thought can and has propelled me through thge Heavens at faster than the speed of Light, I call this spirit speed, and is the prefered means Of Travel of Beings who are not saddled with a body.

Time is irrelevant in spirit, In My opinion.

The reason Prophesy fulfilled Is The guage to measure Mans progress, is there is no time in spirit. It can not be Measured unless by Prophesy fulfilled, But it can be experienced.

Many have and have told about this speed.

In spirit when we comunicate with others, We are faster than Thought, as it is thought it is sent to the reciever with more feeling and understanding than words could ever convey.

Gotta watch those less than wholsum thoughts.

Love Omnaka
Mattshark
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Jun 30 2008, 09:10 PM) *
Hi, It is My experience That spirit, is pure consciousness with out the body, as such Pure thought can and has propelled me through thge Heavens at faster than the speed of Light, I call this spirit speed, and is the prefered means Of Travel of Beings who are not saddled with a body.

Time is irrelevant in spirit, In My opinion.

The reason Prophesy fulfilled Is The guage to measure Mans progress, is there is no time in spirit. It can not be Measured unless by Prophesy fulfilled, But it can be experienced.

Many have and have told about this speed.

In spirit when we comunicate with others, We are faster than Thought, as it is thought it is sent to the reciever with more feeling and understanding than words could ever convey.

Gotta watch those less than wholsum thoughts.

Love Omnaka

Wholesome is subjective though is it not.
Either way thoughts are known to be connected to chemical reactions, they are nothing mystical. Even love is known to be a hormonal response and that hormone has been isolated.
Brahmana
"Spirit is life. Mind is the builder, and the physical is the result."

Edgar Cayce

Thoughts do not just pass in and out of existence; thoughts are THINGS. We truly create our own reality, and have the power to change it.
Mattshark
QUOTE (brahman1888 @ Jun 30 2008, 09:30 PM) *
"Spirit is life. Mind is the builder, and the physical is the result."

Edgar Cayce

Thoughts do not just pass in and out of existence; thoughts are THINGS. We truly create our own reality, and have the power to change it.

I can't agree thought are very much passing. Most of them slip through the mind with out any real dwelling on them.
We more create our perception of reality. However we are still subject to instinct.
Omnaka
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Jun 30 2008, 09:13 PM) *
Wholesome is subjective though is it not.
Either way thoughts are known to be connected to chemical reactions, they are nothing mystical. Even love is known to be a hormonal response and that hormone has been isolated.

Physical and etherial are two distinktly different things, But everything Physical has an etherial spirit Holding it stable so you can experience it, Spirit is pure consciousness, and pure consciousness is thought, with out a body.

In the beginning there was thought, Not Light, One had to Think Light, before Light was. Thought was First.

Love Omnaka
Mattshark
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Jun 30 2008, 09:42 PM) *
Physical and etherial are two distinktly different things, But everything Physical has an etherial spirit Holding it stable so you can experience it, Spirit is pure consciousness, and pure consciousness is thought, with out a body.

In the beginning there was thought, Not Light, One had to Think Light, before Light was. Thought was First.

Love Omnaka

We'll just have to agree to disagree about this.
Omnaka
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Jun 30 2008, 09:52 PM) *
We'll just have to agree to disagree about this.

We can disagree, But If one thinks about it, No pun intended, He will see that thought was first. This is logic.
Love Omnaka
Mattshark
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Jun 30 2008, 10:12 PM) *
We can disagree, But If one thinks about it, No pun intended, He will see that thought was first. This is logic.
Love Omnaka

No logic is involved when you cite spirituality. Sorry.
maysu
That's very interesting, how did you come across this?
Omnaka
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Jun 30 2008, 10:15 PM) *
No logic is involved when you cite spirituality. Sorry.

If one + one equals two, One had to think one plus one, Before it was two.
Equaling Thought was first. this is very logical. but if you do not understand , It is understandable.

Love Omnaka
Mattshark
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Jun 30 2008, 10:21 PM) *
If one + one equals two, One had to think one plus one, Before it was two.
Equaling Thought was first. this is very logical. but if you do not understand , It is understandable.

Love Omnaka

You can not have thought with life. Life requires matter.
Omnaka
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Jun 30 2008, 10:24 PM) *
You can not have thought with life. Life requires matter.

We are making a Circle,

Thought does not requier Matter since Spirit is pure consciousness with out Matter, The stuff The Op was trying to Measure.

Mater only comes about by thought, Spirit thought. Which is consciousness.

One can take this thought of love down to the atomic level and See that The atom stays stable out of unconditional love for Father whose thought it was to create this world of Thought to begin with, By for and Of Unconditional love.

But the whole thing started with a Thought.
Believe it or not does not Matter. In the beginning There was Love. This love was a Thought.

Love Omnaka
Mattshark
QUOTE (Omnaka @ Jun 30 2008, 10:38 PM) *
We are making a Circle,

Thought does not requier Matter since Spirit is pure consciousness with out Matter, The stuff The Op was trying to Measure.

Mater only comes about by thought, Spirit thought. Which is consciousness.

One can take this thought of love down to the atomic level and See that The atom stays stable out of unconditional love for Father whose thought it was to create this world of Thought to begin with, By for and Of Unconditional love.

But the whole thing started with a Thought.
Believe it or not does not Matter. In the beginning There was Love. This love was a Thought.

Love Omnaka

Again can't agree. Love is an emotion caused by the release of the hormone oxytocin.
I have never seen anything to suggest that there is an etherial spirit. However endocrinology is well studied. If you cite anything spiritual it is conjecture, not logic.
Omnaka
QUOTE (Mattshark @ Jun 30 2008, 10:42 PM) *
Again can't agree. Love is an emotion caused by the release of the hormone oxytocin.
I have never seen anything to suggest that there is an etherial spirit. However endocrinology is well studied. If you cite anything spiritual it is conjecture, not logic.

There is our Major diferance, Iknow that everything in the physical, has a spirit backing it, It's understandable if you do not know this and explains why you believe everything is Physical, so There can be nothing Faster than Only what you can see, or percieve. It is only by experiencing this spirit speed That I can understand or comprehen what Iam talking about.

So blessings to you my Brother, May you experience spirit speed before this life Is over.

Love Omnaka
eight bits
QUOTE
Love is an emotion caused by the release of the hormone oxytocin.


With all respect, Matt, oxytocin is a little more complicated than that.

http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb08/oxytocin.html

So is love.
momentarylapseofreason
QUOTE (Leonardo @ Jun 30 2008, 06:42 PM) *
Having heard some anecdotal evidence of remote viewing, I wonder if this alleged ability operates at relativistic speed (the speed of light)? I would think it does, as with normal vision, but it would be an interesting experiment (assuming Remote Viewing actually works).



Would this experience of mine in the AP be defined as a remote viewing ?

I had no view that I can remember, just an overwhelming feeling/knowing of exactly what he was doing, and as if a silent alarm went off while sleeping .I bolted up/ woke up and was overloaded with adrenaline. And if this was a view it must have been extremely vague or I don't remember.

Maybe we pick up EXTREMELY SMALL details on a subconscious level that our brain puts together ?

Possibly if there are other powers or energies>maybe these warn you of the danger because one is more receptive to these or certain energies/whatever ? Maybe your brain is like some kind of mast/antenna that is tuned into various frequencies ? (because it is electrical) ?


I'm a bit frustrated because I have no answers sad.gif


I'm going to look up remote viewing
momentarylapseofreason
Here is some info from wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing

I haven't found any other sites that seem credible (yet)
John A Spera
QUOTE (momentarylapseofreason @ Jul 1 2008, 02:12 AM) *
Would this experience of mine in the AP be defined as a remote viewing ?

I had no view that I can remember, just an overwhelming feeling/knowing of exactly what he was doing, and as if a silent alarm went off while sleeping .I bolted up/ woke up and was overloaded with adrenaline. And if this was a view it must have been extremely vague or I don't remember.

Maybe we pick up EXTREMELY SMALL details on a subconscious level that our brain puts together ?

Possibly if there are other powers or energies>maybe these warn you of the danger because one is more receptive to these or certain energies/whatever ? Maybe your brain is like some kind of mast/antenna that is tuned into various frequencies ? (because it is electrical) ?


I'm a bit frustrated because I have no answers sad.gif


I'm going to look up remote viewing


When you look at thought and thinking as two different things, it is easier to understand.

In the case of one plus one is = two you are thinking. The energy in the brain is working out a calculation. It is processing. I suspect speed is an issue.

In the case of your awareness that your room mate was cutting his wrist, the awareness was a different kind of thought. I see us as all connected in a hive mind kind of way. We are aware of things in our subconscious because at that level we are unique and we are unified. It is something multidimensional. Speed is not an issue. Being conscious is not a distance kind of thing.

I talk a little bit about remote viewing at my website. It is like an energy awareness. I am amazed at how many of us can tap into this field of awareness. Your experience was not as uncommon as you might suspect. We all have a lot to learn about these various subjects.

I understand that there is something called the cosmic lattic. That works a little like an electric circut except it includes everything. Once you put a message on the lattic it is felt or received everywhere all at once.

Any way as I see it, we are talking about at least two different things when we talk about the speed of thought.

John

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