Yeah, I mean...seriously.

The political and economic reaction of alien encounter has been rarely discussed by serious academics, except for Brookings Institute. My impression is that this has been rarely discussed among UFO buffs because...I dunno. Probably because none of us are experts in those areas?

I've been think about that for a while. I strongly believe that there are people who will be absolutely unhappy if aliens reveal themselves.

First, dictators from non-democratic nations. Do you really think Kim Jong-Il and Robert Mugabe will give up their thrones without detonating a nuke or two? There are quite a few dictators (no, not Bush. He won't thwart the 2008 election. You Americans really have no experience with dictators. Well, I have.) around the world who will never, ever peacefully surrender to the alien overlords.

Second, religious leaders and religious fundies. I bet my organs that aliens will not share the same kind of view on religions and spirituality. I bet my testicles that aliens have a totally different and more plausible answers for metaphysical stuff. Although Vatican assured the laypeople that they can believe in aliens, watch what will happen when aliens come down and mock Holy Trinity and Mother of God. Funny thing is that there is a prophecy about the end of catholic church. It seems that Pope Palpatine is the pope before the LAST ONE. The prophecy of Malachi says that Vatican will be mowed down by an army. If that is really a prophecy, we have a serious question. What kind of army will mow down the Holy See? Can you imagine any nation in the world who will invade Vatican and kill the pope? Not in this kind of political atmosphere. They will have to go through the Italian Military before that. I have a feeling that the army is extraterrestrial.

And think about Islam. When aliens denounce Islam, hell on earth will ensue. Maybe those aliens will intentionally mock Islam to have an excuse to nuke the entire Middle East. And, there are tens of millions of fundie christians in North America. Do you really think aliens will devastate Catholic Church and leave Protestant churches alone? No.

It is the christians that will provoke the aliens first, I guarantee it. There has been an idea among fundies that says aliens are demons in disguise. If some military commanders are fundie xians, which is true, then they will not hesitate firing the nukes to aliens. Good bye, America.

Third, oil barons. Maybe aliens will use plastics based on carbon. But with advanced technology they might be able to produce super-strength plastics from...corn husk or hay. They won't even need oil to produce all the chemical products they need. Those - Snip - who drive Ferraris and bang blondes will be mighty pissed off when aliens present some infinite energy source.

Major oil corporations will be mighty pissed off too. Since they are the ones who lobby US government, I guarantee that those oil corporations will instigate war against the aliens, without thinking about the consequence. You know, even big corporation leaders can be really shortsighted. They would rather die by orbital bombardment rather than losing their business.

Last but not the least, organized crime including drug lords. Do you really think aliens, who might want the smooth control over humanity, will ever tolerate street gangs and drug cartels? You guys all know that how messed up the war against drug is in South America, right?

If aliens really want the Earth, chances are they have similar physiology with humans. Then they can't afford to have the drugs that potentially cripple them sold on street. Drugs can be a threat to aliens, too. Knowing that, aliens will use any means necessary to wipe out narcotics off the street.

You guys know how drug cartels in Mexico kill anti-drug officials. Do you think drug cartels, who are blinded by power and money, will just surrender to aliens? Not without a war. Drug cartels will go berserk if aliens impose strong anti-drug policy. They will kill aliens who are lowering their guards. If that happens, aliens will use brutal methods to subdue drug cartels. And drug gangs will kill innocent civilians and bystanders.

The entire South America will become a total warzone worse than Vietnam if aliens are zealous about being anti-crime.

Just my two cents, guys.

You make a lot of suppositions regarding extra terrestrials. All of your suppositions suggest a belief that ET is more humane and moral.
That is absurd.

There is no doubt that any ET will have technology different from ours. But there is absolutely no way to know or prove "plastics based on carbon" for example.



Different - assuredly. "more plausible" is a complete stretch and fabrication.
By what methodology do you determine the spiritual belief or knowledge of a race (or races) of people not even known to us?

As humans there seems to be a collective belief that ET will have better technology, and thus be more "advanced" than humans and somehow more knowledgeable about spirituality. This is an illogical assumption based on nothing.

When whites invaded Africa - they brought with them more "advanced" technology. They also brought a belief that they had a true god on their sides. They killed or enslaved whole cultures. Brought disease and famine.
By anthropological standards whites were more advanced technologically - but they were corrupt, and often morally bankrupt, acting in complete disregard of their own church and faith.
They used the political landscape to pit tribe against tribe. And they did so for personal gain alone.

We have no knowledge that ET will do differently. Nothing at all. Speculation is useless.

Ambelamba, I agree that those you mention sure won’t be happy when the celestials arrive and for the very reasons you state. On that very day they loose what drives them, power and money.

And technology? Used for good and in the right hands it works. Man has used it to gain power over others. This is what the celestials have seen and they have seen where it has lead and where it is leading to.

Many see ET as a threat and can’t imaging another race being different in their use of technology. People just don’t want to accept the fact that beneficial technologies have been held back from the populous by the governments and big corporation. Big profit from pollution, war, poverty and sickness.

UFOs and COSMIC DIMENSIONS is a good watch, re-released in 2008 and available on DVD. Lots of info about how the good celestials use their technology and how they wish to help humankind use technology correctly.

The arrival of the celestials will be a blessing for some and a curse for others. I for one look very much forward to their arrival that IMOP will release mankind from its present misery and fear. The bad celestials won’t go down without a fight, but the good are infinitely more powerful.

Love and peace,
Sam

Tons of stuff to comment on, but I'll just pick one:



You do realize that millions of people on earth right now mock the Holy Trinity and Mother of God, right? Do you really think they would care more if its done by aliens rather than humans?

i 100% agree with you ambelamba
also this whole thing about religeons shows yet another reason why the goverment is covering up aliens mainly because the church is intertwined with america ,britain ,france ect
so a bunch of aliens suddenly showing up and tottally destroying any faith in 90% of the countries population
MASS PANIC WOULD ENSUE
and even if there wasnt much panic the re****ing amount of people knowing that there is no punishment in the after life they would pillage and kill [ although this may be an overreaction lol]

Actually, I am really curious about how aliens will handle organized crimes and drug industry in Earth. Moral or not, they will never tolerate them because the drugs can be a threat to them, if they have similar physiology, and they might want a total control.

If aliens will attempt to implant locators for every single human beings, a lot of people will go berserk. Especially criminals.

A few days ago I read a new about Mexican drug cartels murdering the drug tzar of Mexico. I know that violence is a big part of mesoamerican society, but I was shocked by this.

And, well, I feel uncomfortable because some of you seem to be detatched from terrestrial affairs. Well, for one thing, why do you call aliens 'celestials'? Are you into some New Agey crap?

ahaha
awsome. if anything, maybe they could explain a few things, like, that there is no god. and they Are, the Higher being/entities. that could be interesting.
im guessing mass suicide for alota religious people?
...ok, lets pray that doesnt happen.

Why would they want to deliberately mock Islam and Catholicism and all the rest of it? Just to be annoy us? And if they're going to to give us the secret of infinite energy and plastics based on carbon and they're going to crack down on drug cartels, why on earth would they want to manufacture an excuse to nuke the entire Middle east?

No no no, I never proposed that aliens are more humane and moral.

Being intolerant to crime doesn't mean that aliens would be moral. If they were really moral, they would use some kind of high-tech rehabilitation program for criminals. Criminals get snatched up, thrown into the brainwashing machine, then they become productive members of the society.

The more likely scenario is that aliens will throw them into a molten pit. I am pretty sure Africa and South America will turn into warzones worse than vietnam when aliens take over and want the total control.

Because the entire middle east will go berserk against the aliens?

And, well...plastic is indeed based on carbon!!!!

Why would they even differentiate?! I am sure if they were here and wanted to annihilate a given area, they'd do so. As you say, why the need for an excuse. In my opinion a species capable of traversing interstellar distances would hold a vast technological superiority and if they for reasons (completely unknown and unfathomable to us) wanted to wreck havoc, they would do so.

Cheers,
Badeskov

And why would they do that?! And why would the ET visitors even notice?! And by which means exactly would the middle eastern countries pose as any threat whatsoever against ET capable of interstellar travel?!

Cheers,
Badeskov

It is an interesting line of speculation - however, you have made many and at time conflicting theories. What motive does ET have for any of it?

I always find it interesting how people assume aliens will be ultra-scientific and discount all religion, etc.

The Vikings, for example, made kick-butt high-tech boats way back when. They sailed all over the place other people couldn't go. And they were not wise, benevolent, non-religious folk. (No, I'm not saying Vikings were idiot berserkers or anything like that.)

Why couldn't aliens be really good at making ships, and also have entire pantheons of gods and goddesses? Maybe they rushed interstellar travel capabilities for the sole reason of evangelizing to the universe?

(Now there is a scary thought!)

I don't think aliens will be omniscient, they will likely have questions of their own regarding their origins or where they fit in in the greater scheme. It is possible that they will have some form of spirituality or even religion. Technical prowess hardly means spiritual advancement. They would know more science than us, but they may still be pondering the same questions we do. This is all just speculation anyway, so nobody is right or wrong here. (yet)

They were not without their culture, though, the Vikings, to be fair. I do like the idea of polytheistic aliens. That would be worth it just to annoy a few fundamentalists.