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raoulduke666
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Do you trust everything you are told or do you think there is usually truth in conspiracies?

Psychologist Dr Patrick Leman, of the Royal Holloway University of London, has devised a test to see how conspiratorial you are.

Once you have answered all 15 questions press submit and we will calculate your score. You will then be able to read Dr Leman's analysis.


Conspiracy Test


Just a test for fun but my results described myself pretty good.

QUOTE
51-75
Your responses suggest you have a high level of belief in conspiracy theories. You might have reason not to trust others, even people close to you. You may also feel that you are an outsider in terms of society and the political and business decisions that large organisations make.
cutycub
26-50
Your responses indicate that you have a medium level of belief in conspiracy theories. You may well be quite trusting of your close friends, partners, those you work with and others but sometimes cannot be sure of all of them all of the time. You may also feel that your voice in terms of wider political decisions is rarely heard or acted upon, perhaps because government and big business is more concerned with their own interests than with those of the average person.

747400
26 - 50.

There seemed to be a lot of questions about my closest friends. What if you don't have any closest friends? unsure.gif
Enigma wrapped in a puzzle
QUOTE (747400 @ Jul 1 2008, 07:20 PM) *
26 - 50.

There seemed to be a lot of questions about my closest friends. What if you don't have any closest friends? unsure.gif



you? no close friends? Thats odd....
glyndowers heir
26-50
Your responses indicate that you have a medium level of belief in conspiracy theories. You may well be quite trusting of your close friends, partners, those you work with and others but sometimes cannot be sure of all of them all of the time. You may also feel that your voice in terms of wider political decisions is rarely heard or acted upon, perhaps because government and big business is more concerned with their own interests than with those of the average person.



statistically not too reliable an analysis, due to a relitively small number of data capture questions with a heavy emphisis on close friends rather than actual conspiricy scenarios!
REBEL
49-50

Your responses indicate that you have an extremely level of belief in conspiracy theories.
You may need a straight jacket and serious psychological help.
flyingswan
QUOTE (glyndowers heir @ Jul 2 2008, 02:59 PM) *
26-50
Your responses indicate that you have a medium level of belief in conspiracy theories. You may well be quite trusting of your close friends, partners, those you work with and others but sometimes cannot be sure of all of them all of the time. You may also feel that your voice in terms of wider political decisions is rarely heard or acted upon, perhaps because government and big business is more concerned with their own interests than with those of the average person.

Same here. It appears that I've been arguing against conspiracy theories on this forum for ages even though I have a medium level of belief in them.
REBEL
I tested the test...

Take it as many times as ya like any which way, it will always come up 26-50?
747400
QUOTE (Enigma wrapped in a puzzle @ Jul 2 2008, 02:50 PM) *
you? no close friends? Thats odd....

is there any need for that sarcastic little personal attack, just because i don't agree with every single theory that you promote?
Elite
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51-75
Your responses suggest you have a high level of belief in conspiracy theories. You might have reason not to trust others, even people close to you. You may also feel that you are an outsider in terms of society and the political and business decisions that large organisations make.

meh
ValkyrieVoice
QUOTE (raoulduke666 @ Jul 1 2008, 01:49 PM) *
Conspiracy Test


Just a test for fun but my results described myself pretty good.


51-75
Your responses suggest you have a high level of belief in conspiracy theories. You might have reason not to trust others, even people close to you. You may also feel that you are an outsider in terms of society and the political and business decisions that large organisations make.

Sounds about right to me. Thanks for sharing this test!



eqgumby
26-50
Your responses indicate that you have a medium level of belief in conspiracy theories. You may well be quite trusting of your close friends, partners, those you work with and others but sometimes cannot be sure of all of them all of the time. You may also feel that your voice in terms of wider political decisions is rarely heard or acted upon, perhaps because government and big business is more concerned with their own interests than with those of the average person.

I'm surprised even by that.
AkamaruFoxHound
51-75
Your responses suggest you have a high level of belief in conspiracy theories. You might have reason not to trust others, even people close to you. You may also feel that you are an outsider in terms of society and the political and business decisions that large organisations make.


huh... thumbsup.gif
Celumnaz
QUOTE (REBEL @ Jul 2 2008, 09:34 AM) *
I tested the test...

Take it as many times as ya like any which way, it will always come up 26-50?

I got 26-50 also.
DEBUNKER
And here is my score....

QUOTE
26-50

Your responses indicate that you have a medium level of belief in conspiracy theories. You may well be quite trusting of your close friends, partners, those you work with and others but sometimes cannot be sure of all of them all of the time. You may also feel that your voice in terms of wider political decisions is rarely heard or acted upon, perhaps because government and big business is more concerned with their own interests than with those of the average person.




Except for the "you have a medium level of belief in conspiracy theories" crap.... Yep..thats me. And a billion of other people.
Left Field
26-50

Your responses indicate that you have a medium level of belief in conspiracy theories. You may well be quite trusting of your close friends, partners, those you work with and others but sometimes cannot be sure of all of them all of the time. You may also feel that your voice in terms of wider political decisions is rarely heard or acted upon, perhaps because government and big business is more concerned with their own interests than with those of the average person.
747400
It seems to me that the questions are loaded so that any mistrust in government of any sort (which, let's face it, is an awful lot of people) means that you get graded as having some belief in conspiracy theories.

hmm.gif .
MID
QUOTE (747400 @ Jul 1 2008, 03:20 PM) *
26 - 50.

There seemed to be a lot of questions about my closest friends. What if you don't have any closest friends? unsure.gif



Ditto.



QUOTE
REBEL...I tested the test...

Take it as many times as ya like any which way, it will always come up 26-50?



Interesting...all DISAGREE STRONGLY's, or all AGREE STRONGLY's , or all DON'T KNOWS will result in 26-50.
Which seems utterly bogus.

In fact, I answered all the questions with an extreme bias toward being a CT and I got 26-50.


Sounds like crap to me...
Q24
Ok shall we get really personal with this thing? grin2.gif

The broad groupings are nice but as there are only three, most people will come out in the middle (26-50). The scoring system is simple and if people have 5 minutes it would be interesting to see exactly what scores we are getting would it not?

You can use the table here to tot up your score: -

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Now my own score... that would be telling tongue.gif

Ah ok, I got 41!
flyingswan
QUOTE (Q24 @ Jul 5 2008, 03:42 AM) *
The broad groupings are nice but as there are only three, most people will come out in the middle (26-50). The scoring system is simple and if people have 5 minutes it would be interesting to see exactly what scores we are getting would it not?

On that basis, my score was 32. Is scoring only 9 less than q24 a cause for worry?
Q24
QUOTE (flyingswan @ Jul 5 2008, 02:47 PM) *
On that basis, my score was 32. Is scoring only 9 less than q24 a cause for worry?

Oh yes, you should be absolutely worried, especially considering that if we took out the Moon Landing and Twin Towers questions you would only be 4 less than me! I answered Disagree and Strongly Agree to those respectively whereas I’m guessing you answered Strongly Disagree to both. I don’t know your opinions on JFK and Princess Di but if we took those out as well, ie that would be all of the more directly related conspiracy questions leaving the more general ones behind, then just maybe in actual fact you would be rated more of a conspiracist than me! laugh.gif
flyingswan
QUOTE (Q24 @ Jul 5 2008, 03:17 PM) *
Oh yes, you should be absolutely worried, especially considering that if we took out the Moon Landing and Twin Towers questions you would only be 4 less than me! I answered Disagree and Strongly Agree to those respectively whereas I’m guessing you answered Strongly Disagree to both. I don’t know your opinions on JFK and Princess Di but if we took those out as well, ie that would be all of the more directly related conspiracy questions leaving the more general ones behind, then just maybe in actual fact you would be rated more of a conspiracist than me! laugh.gif

In that case, could you point that fact out the next time the likes of sunofone call me a sheeple?
747400
QUOTE (flyingswan @ Jul 5 2008, 03:38 PM) *
In that case, could you point that fact out the next time the likes of sunofone call me a sheeple?

What would the singular of sheeple be? "Sheep" can be singular or plural, but "people" is plural. "Sheeperson" just doesn't have the same punning value.

Sorry, going off into a little world of my own there. I'll have to have a look at analysing it in more detail, it might be kind of fun.
MID
QUOTE (Q24 @ Jul 4 2008, 10:42 PM) *
Ok shall we get really personal with this thing? grin2.gif

The broad groupings are nice but as there are only three, most people will come out in the middle (26-50). The scoring system is simple and if people have 5 minutes it would be interesting to see exactly what scores we are getting would it not?

You can use the table here to tot up your score: -

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Now my own score... that would be telling tongue.gif

Ah ok, I got 41!



Interesting, Q.

I like this variant. I think it speaks more to actuality.

I got a 36.

Now, one would think that puts me pretty close, being that I'm only 5 away from you.

However, in looking at the possible range, 15 to 75, I think we can infer that anyone who scores a 15 is absolutely trusting, probably absolutely naive, and knows absolutely nothing about the goings on in the world at all ("Sheep" could indeed be a viable terminology for such a person, if one exists). Concurrently, someone who might score a 75 is absolutely distrusting, and probably is a candidate for treatment (and "Nutcase" might be a reasonable description for such a one).

I honestly don't think that a measurable amount of people, no matter how "sheepie" or "Nutcasey" they may be, actually fall into either extreme range.

Both extremes, and in fact, probably anything within about 10-15 points of either extreme points to some serious deficits. Either extreme range is likely unrealistic for the vast majority of people, whether they believe rather strongly in CTs or they don't.

It appears to me that one could likely discount those ranges completely and use 30 to 55 as a realistic range on which to assess the nature of the being involved; with say 25 to 30 describing someone who's really really trusting, probably a might naive concerning certain things, and someone 55 to 60 being about as far CT as is possible reasonably. Anything below the min or above the max of those ranges likely has some deficits which make them both unreachable.

Thus, I have a realistic range (and this is based upon no major analysis--just eyeballing it and thinking a little) which puts alot more weight on the a single point difference in score.

Using the entire 60 point range, a single point speaks to a 1.6% difference, slanted on way or the other. Using the "reasonable" scale (and again, that's certainly arguable), a single point holds the value of 4% difference.

Therefore, on a 60 point scale, you and I are separated by 8%. You would be considered a mere 8% more CT than I am, or I would be considered only 8% more a "sheepie" than you.

Using the scale I propose, we are 20% different, or slanted toward one mode of thinking from the other.

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However, looking closer at the questions themselves, it seems apparent that they mean different things to different categories of people. Case in point might be question 9.

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9) Most politicians are sympathetic people and do a good job.


I answered this question "2", which is weighted as "4" out of "5" on the CT scale.
Now I honestly don't know about the sympathetic nature of most politicians, but I do not in any way think that most of them do a good job, thus I chose "4" instead of "5". This answer put me potentially 1 or 2 points farther toward CT.

But...I don't think the fact that most politicians do crappy jobs has any relation to things like hiding evidence of aliens from the American people, or with covering up the Moon landing hoax, or a 9-11 inside job, etc., etc...


Breaking these question into sub-questions that would qualify all answers as pertains to possible reasons for the answers would likely show a far greater disparity in respondents scores.

Whatever the case may be, my quickly thought out analysis of this seems to point to the fact, which seems to be substantiated through various discusssions, that folks like myself and Swanny are really somewhere around 20-35% divergent from you in our actual positions.
MID
QUOTE (Q24 @ Jul 5 2008, 10:17 AM) *
Oh yes, you should be absolutely worried, especially considering that if we took out the Moon Landing and Twin Towers questions you would only be 4 less than me! I answered Disagree and Strongly Agree to those respectively whereas I’m guessing you answered Strongly Disagree to both. I don’t know your opinions on JFK and Princess Di but if we took those out as well, ie that would be all of the more directly related conspiracy questions leaving the more general ones behind, then just maybe in actual fact you would be rated more of a conspiracist than me! laugh.gif




Another good point.

Something I think is important is the actual nature of the "CT" that may be floating around and the degree of resonable doubt inherent in it.

We can speak of the Moon hoax, and most reasonable people, literate in the subject matter of not, can generally see that there isn't any reasonable doubt present in this accomplishmnent.

When we go back 45 years to the JFK assassination, I personally think there's enough very clear procedural, legal, and forensic oddity present to introduce reasonable doubt. I answered "Don't know" to that one, because I don't. That answer as well gave me a point or two more slant toward the CT mindset. However, I don't believe anything about that matter. When I say I don't know, that means I don't know, whereas a CT tends to conclude that such oddities absolutely mean that a conspiracy was involved.

More reason, I think, for more qualifiers to answers.

In my opinion, I don't think any CT is established clearly. Some (most) are not established at all, and others have some things attached to them in their evidentiary bodies which introduce reasonable doubt. But that's as far as it goes. I don't attempt to draw conclusions about 9-11, or Apollo, because I see absolutely nothing inherent in them that introduces any doubt whatsoever. Further, despite the fact that I see clear improprieties and some pretty shoddy medical-legal work in the JFK asassination, I neither attempt to draw any conclusions about that either, because what I've seen and examined, while certainly doubt-inducing, does nothing but introduce the necessity of certain actions and procedures which could help clarify the situation, but which haven't for some reason, taken place yet. Thus, I can't draw a conclusion.



I think a CT can and does draw a conclusion. I can't.
Sockmonster
26-50 .... thinking of changing my name to "FenceSitter" ... or worse "FriendlessFenceSitter" LOL laugh.gif
Q24
QUOTE (MID @ Jul 5 2008, 06:10 PM) *
Using the scale I propose, we are 20% different, or slanted toward one mode of thinking from the other.

Well so long as I fall within what you call the “reasonable” range I’m delighted. grin2.gif
Left Field
Alright, I assume you guys are just adding up the numbers you used for each question that was given.
So my score would be: 45
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1) There was no organised conspiracy involved in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
  • Disagree (2)

2) For the most part, government serves the interests of a few organised groups, such as business, and isn't very concerned about the needs of people like myself.
  • Agree (4)

3) I can normally do what I want to do in the world today
  • Agree (4)

4) Princess Diana's death was an accident.
  • Don't Know (3)

5) It is difficult for people like myself to have much influence in public affairs
  • Don't Know (3)

6) We seem to live in a pretty rational and well-ordered world.
  • Disagree (2)

7) My closest friends are very unpredictable. I never know how they are going to act from one day to the next.
  • Disagree (2)

8) When I am with my closest friends, I feel secure in facing unknown new situations.
  • Don't Know (3)

9) Most politicians are sympathetic people and do a good job.
  • Disagree (2)

10) I feel very uncomfortable when my closest friends have to make decisions which will affect me personally.
  • Don't Know (3)

11) The attack on the Twin Towers was not a terrorist action but a conspiracy involving certain Western governments.
  • Agree (4)

12) The American Moon landings were faked.
  • Strongly Disagree (1)

13) I am certain that my closest friends would not lie to me, even if the opportunity arose and there was no chance that they would get caught.
  • Agree (4)

14) I can rely on my closest friends to keep the promises they make to me.
  • Strongly Agree (5)

15) Governments are suppressing evidence of the existence of aliens.
  • Don't Know (3)


(Link to the test with the questions above)

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Maybe it's just me, but the way the scoring is supposed to be reflective of your belief, or nonbelief in conspiracy theories, seems off to me. I assume most feel that the higher you score, the more likely it is you believe in them and vice versa. Look at the questions and how they are worded though.

Question 1 is asked in a way where if you choose a low number, it indicates you believe in a conspiracy. Question 2 though is then set-up in the opposite manner. If you answer question 2 with a low number, it actually indicates you don't believe in a conspiracy.

For a quick run through, I'll show each question and what a low number selection (disagreeing) or a high number selection (agree) would mean for each answer you give as it pertains towards deciding wether you believe in a conspiracy or not. I will use B for conspiracy believer, and D for conspiracy disbeliever. L will stand for a low number given as an answer. H will stand for a high number given as an answer.

Question 1: L = B, H = D
Question 2: L = D, H = B
Question 3: L = B, H = D
Question 4: L = B, H = D
Question 5: L = D, H = B
Question 6: L = B, H = D
Question 7: L = D, H = B
Question 8: L = B, H = D
Question 9: L = B, H = D
Question 10: L = B, H = D
Question 11: L = D, H = B
Question 12: L = D, H = B
Question 13: L = B, H = D
Question 14: L = B, H = D
Question 15: L = D, H = B

So if you look at that, that means there are 6 questions (numbers 2, 5, 7, 11, 12, and 15) where if you answer by disagreeing, it means you likely don't believe in conspiracy theories. With the 9 remaining questions, if you answer by disagreeing, it means you likely do believe in conspiracy theories.

That being this case, this questionaire seems like a complete waste of time in regards to what it tells you when it calculates your total. Even when we add are own scores up to get are exact number, it still doesn't mean anything because the questions are not all uniform in what it means when you give a low number (disagreeing) versus a high number (agreeing).

Seems like a poorly thought out and put together questionaire to me.

If I'm off with my thinking on this one, someone let me know. As I currently see it though, the test just doesn't hold any weight as far as getting any results from it based on adding up your score.

ETA: Given the fact 9 questions are set up where answering with a low number (disagreeing) means you likely lean towards believing in conspiracies, then for the most part you would think that the lower your score, the more likely you are to be a conspiracy theorist.

All it takes though is answering one of those other 6 questions with a high number (agreeing) to go and throw the whole thing out of wack. So again, this test makes no sense in what it claims to be telling you about yourself and wether you do or dont believe in conspiracies.
747400
Oh yes, i was going to have another go at this, wasn't I, but it all seems to be getting a bit complicated. Still, I'll see what it comes up with.
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Left Field
QUOTE (747400 @ Jul 17 2008, 05:02 AM) *
Oh yes, i was going to have another go at this, wasn't I, but it all seems to be getting a bit complicated. Still, I'll see what it comes up with.
angry.gif


I don't mean to make it complicated, but I wanted to prove that the test itself doesn't make sense in producing meaningful results by adding up your score.
747400
QUOTE (Q24 @ Jul 5 2008, 03:42 AM) *
Ok shall we get really personal with this thing? grin2.gif

The broad groupings are nice but as there are only three, most people will come out in the middle (26-50). The scoring system is simple and if people have 5 minutes it would be interesting to see exactly what scores we are getting would it not?

You can use the table here to tot up your score: -

linked-image

Now my own score... that would be telling tongue.gif

Ah ok, I got 41!

Let me see if I've got this right? What that means is that if you tick option 4 for question 1, then you get a score of 2 according to this table, is that right? And then you go through it totting up your score according to the table.

Q24
QUOTE (Left Field @ Jul 17 2008, 09:50 AM) *
Question 1 is asked in a way where if you choose a low number, it indicates you believe in a conspiracy. Question 2 though is then set-up in the opposite manner. If you answer question 2 with a low number, it actually indicates you don't believe in a conspiracy.

That is correct and is reflected in the table I created here (or the top of this page). Your answers marked against the table give a score of 43.


QUOTE (747400 @ Jul 17 2008, 10:27 AM) *
Let me see if I've got this right? What that means is that if you tick option 4 for question 1, then you get a score of 2 according to this table, is that right? And then you go through it totting up your score according to the table.

Yes, exactly. It's just to allow a more precise score so you know how much of a conspiracist you really are in comparison to others.

The board so far looks like this: -

43 pts - Left Field
41 pts - Q24
36 pts - MID
32 pts - flyingswan

It would be interesting to have a full ranking of UM conspiracy forum regulars. Come on sunofone, ifisurvive and others… you know you want to. original.gif
747400
oops sorry, inadvertantly hit submit prematurely. I'll be right with you.
747400
Well, then, from the table I got:

Question
1: 2 points
2: 4
3: 4
4; 1
5; 4
6: 4
7: 3
8: 4
9: 5
10: 2
11: 2
12: 1
13: 5
14: 4
15: 1

Which gives, according to my system of mathematics, 46.

The reason seems to be that if you don't have much trust in government (or indeed, your friends), it marks you down as tending to be more of a conspiracy believer, when in fact, the reason i don't trust governments is more down to incompetence, which is one of the reasons why I consider it unlikely that governments coudl pull off these huge conspiracies succesfully.
flyingswan
I think you have nailed the problem with this. The fact that most of us get into the middle band, whatever our level of belief in conspiracies, does rather suggest that the questionnaire is based on the false assumption that people who don't tend to believe in conspiracy theories are automatically trusting of governments.
Q24
QUOTE (747400 @ Jul 17 2008, 01:50 PM) *
The reason seems to be that if you don't have much trust in government (or indeed, your friends), it marks you down as tending to be more of a conspiracy believer, when in fact, the reason i don't trust governments is more down to incompetence, which is one of the reasons why I consider it unlikely that governments coudl pull off these huge conspiracies succesfully.

There are no questions implicitly asking if you trust the government or that are reliant on incompetence; only really whether you think the government has the citizens’ interests at heart or not. On the subjects where there have been government so-called investigations or where we are more required to take their word, ie JFK, Princess Diana, 9/11, moon landings and aliens, you sided with the government on all. After this there are only two other questions referring to government/politicians so this could not sway your score to a great degree. Now, if you feel things are out of your control or don’t trust your friends, that’s another matter…


46 pts - 747400
43 pts - Left Field
41 pts - Q24
36 pts - MID
32 pts - flyingswan

Obviously your position on the board, knowing your stance on conspiracy subjects, appears to be an anomaly, 747400. Generally speaking now, I think many people have the inquiring nature required to reveal and understand true events that may have occurred in certain situations, though some simply find the notion too disturbing to accept.
Showgirl
QUOTE (Q24 @ Jul 20 2008, 02:20 AM) *
There are no questions implicitly asking if you trust the government or that are reliant on incompetence; only really whether you think the government has the citizens’ interests at heart or not. On the subjects where there have been government so-called investigations or where we are more required to take their word, ie JFK, Princess Diana, 9/11, moon landings and aliens, you sided with the government on all. After this there are only two other questions referring to government/politicians so this could not sway your score to a great degree. Now, if you feel things are out of your control or don’t trust your friends, that’s another matter…


46 pts - 747400
43 pts - Left Field
41 pts - Q24
36 pts - MID
32 pts - flyingswan

Obviously your position on the board, knowing your stance on conspiracy subjects, appears to be an anomaly, 747400. Generally speaking now, I think many people have the inquiring nature required to reveal and understand true events that may have occurred in certain situations, though some simply find the notion too disturbing to accept.

why are you spending so much time and effort analysing ths test when it is so obviously a test just for fun ? it's a bit of a giggle to see if you believe in conspiracy theory by pandering to your very worries and giving you something to think about in the way of a score to compare with your neighbours... the scores are worthless and so is the test..

Min
Q24
QUOTE (Showgirl @ Jul 20 2008, 03:13 AM) *
why are you spending so much time and effort analysing ths test when it is so obviously a test just for fun ? it's a bit of a giggle to see if you believe in conspiracy theory by pandering to your very worries and giving you something to think about in the way of a score to compare with your neighbours... the scores are worthless and so is the test..

It’s really not taken a lot of time or effort and this iiis fun for me grin2.gif

I’m not so sure the test when done precisely is worthless as it does seem to be placing people in an order that I might expect.

Feel free to have your own version of fun with the test though. tongue.gif
Showgirl
QUOTE (Q24 @ Jul 20 2008, 04:15 AM) *
It’s really not taken a lot of time or effort and this iiis fun for me grin2.gif

I’m not so sure the test when done precisely is worthless as it does seem to be placing people in an order that I might expect.

Feel free to have your own version of fun with the test though. tongue.gif

well, when i tried the test and altered answers from one extreme to the other then re-submitted, sometimes the final score did not change. it just depended on which answers i changed...

Min xx
747400
One thing to bear in mind, perhaps, is that this test was designed by the BBC, who depend on the establishment for their income (remember how they fired one of the journalists a few years back for daring to state the blindingly obvious, that the government had lied about Iraq).
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conspiracybeliever
This is my test results:

51-75
Your responses suggest you have a high level of belief in conspiracy theories. You might have reason not to trust others, even people close to you. You may also feel that you are an outsider in terms of society and the political and business decisions that large organisations make.



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