Please if you answer the above questions let us know which and why.

How does one 'believe in' abortions?

if they should be used on a regular bases or only for self defense and rape. I voted no to all three. Because I don't feel that abortions should be used on a regular bases or that life started from nothing.

I'm morally against abortions but can see how they are a justifiable. I am a supporter of abiogenesis but do not necessarily believe it to be true. So I'm not sure how I should vote.

You know you can't use this poll as real evidence right?

You asked for a poll. I am trying to provide one. Most polls cannot be used as evidence because of their wording usually.

Abiogenesis is the theory of life starting from inanimate organic and inorganic molecules. Scientific research theorizes that abiogenesis occurred sometime between 4.4 billion years ago. So life in fact did start from something just not what most people would consider, not nothing like you have put the question in the poll! Stating as you did that Abiogenesis is life starting from nothing imediately highlights your biased before even answering it. But just to let you know I said yes to every question. By the way could you please explain the connection between abiogenesis and abortion I don't understand the connection. So what is the point of this poll?

No offense or anything, but this poll is rather poorly and awkwardly worded. "Believe in abortions?" Yes I believe in abortions, I know they happen. Abortion is not a black and white issue like you presented it.

No offense taken I was trying to make sure the questions were not leading. I am also not very good at this kind of stuff as I have said.

For this poll to be used as strong evidence it would first have to better worded but more importantly have to have way more people taking the poll then you will ever get here. Your going to get maybe a few dozen votes tops total...you would need atleast a few thousand to get an accurate outcome. You would also need a more diverse population taking the poll...and of course a poll taken on internet forum can not be taken as serious evidence.

At most this poll will show us what UM members think...but even then most aren't even going to vote at all and the wording is off.

When I asked for a poll I expected you would something more official or real.

Sorry I am doing my best here.

This part has me a little disturbed simply due to the fact that you seem to be assuming that women will go out to have an abortion like they are going out of style. For most people who do get them, it is after much thought and is a difficult decision, not "Well, it's about time for me to get another abortion".

Those of us who support a woman's right to choose are not going out and printing coupons for them and promoting that every woman gets one.

Well said. I fail to understand Daniel is doing except maybe trying to cast those who consider abiogenesis (ie anyone who believes in science) in a bad light to regards of anyone is anti-abortion.

In this case I am simple trying to show that the majority of people on this site. That life came from non life and that babies are not alive so yes I needed to word it better sorry.

Why? What relevance is there?

I am a no, no, no... and you all knew what he meant, why not stop pretending ignorance and find out why he wanted this info in the first place?

I don't believe in abiogenesis simply because I find it illogical and unrealistic to believe that something can come from nothing.
I don't believe in abortion at all, for any reason.
I don't believe that everyone who disagrees with me is evil.


I get your point for doing this poll, and I appreciate your effort... but what do you hope will come of the results?

Because I said they were with out really finding out.

Finding out what?

If I was correct. But I know this poll is not a scientific poll.

What that people who understand science agree that woman have a right to abortion?

I think you are right that sometimes ideas or concepts that on the surface seem unrelated usually have the same people subscribing to them. Tis where we get fabulous stereotypes from as well. Why that is, is a bit more complex than the answers you poll is going to get.

But I agree, sometimes it interesting to look at the whys.

Yes but this poll is just as relevant as asking if people who believe in abortions also like blueberry pancakes.

Its fine. Danielost, I think, unfortunately, you've taken two issues out of context and tried to fuse them together, when they really don't have much to do with one another.

X Yes I believe abortion exists.
X No I dont think Women should use it like birth control.
X Yes there certaily should be exceptions.
X NO Men with no stake in the matter should decide whether a women should have access to an abortion.
X Yes This question is far to difficult to be boiled down to a yes/no question.


x Yes abiogenesis exists as a subject
x No science doesnt have every answer, but has many.
x Yes abiogenesis does has evidence that leads to it being correct.
x No Creationism does not have any evidence
x Yes Intelligent Design is creationism under another name.
x No Intelligent Design has no evidence supporting it.
x Yes Intelligent Design is religions way to try and weasel its way back into public school.
x Yes, Abiogenesis is too tough a subject for most people to bother to research to learn anything about so they default to whatever they knew before.
x Yes, this question is far to difficult to be boiled down to a yes/no question.

X No I dont like Blueberry pancakes. Plain is just fine.

I thought you were christian?

If so, then you DO believe in life from nothing. Being as the bible states god made two humans (but not the others outside Eden) from the earth (soil) and again from earth and a rib. Depending which Genesis story you want to believe; Genesis 1 or 2.

Abiogenesis states life started from non-life; basically life started from something, but that something was not alive in our view of what life is.

I voted for Abiogenesis, being as it's the most logical choice (between "yes" and "No" anyway.) But I can't say how life happened, because I don't know how it happened. But I fall onto the Panspermia concept, which I guess can fall into the Abiogenesis file in a way.

If life started with abiogenesis then God helped or started it.l It still means that God created life.

Hardly.

Alien could have. Time traveling humans could have done it. A rabbit that fell into a wormhole and traveled back so far in time, died and created the organisms that lead to carbon life of today, could have done it. Ectect.

All have as much credability of starting life as your god. But then, if god did, which one. Amun? Odin? A giant who hatched from an egg creating earth and the heavens through the chaos?

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm not saying you're correct either.

Sorry I misworded my statement


It should have read that if Abiogenesis took place and God helped it to get started. That still means that God created life.

Sorry about the miswording.

But then the question of were did god come from comes into play...and if God came from nothing then abiogenesis created life. The process of abiogenesis created God who created more abiogenesis that created us. Of course God could have just always existed and didn't need created but we could make that claim about a lot of things if we wanted to.

i voted yes to all also, ...i would not seek to decide for another in regards to an a abortion not ever.....least of all impose my pov ......
i find good sceince to be valid and fair, i feel confident that the methodology is rigorous and open ended i would consider their theories worth considering....can they expalin it all , no, do they claim to, no .. I appreciate that they say i don't know when they don't know.....



i do not see a connection between abortion or Abiogenesis or the point of the question.....

Dante, great to see you posting my freind.....

IMO, it's (abiogenesis) about Cause and Effect. A 'thing' cannot evolve from a 'no thing,' logically. In this understanding, even our universe (The Big Bang) is an effect, not a cause. Perhaps in 10,000 or so years of more study, we'll have some semblance of a true comprehension.

Abortion is not a belief, as previously stated. I suppose your question is actually about Abortion Rights--of which I am 100% in favor (Pro-Choice).

Ok sorry my questions were very badly worded. It is my first poll and I didn't want anyone to accuse me of trying to lead the answers.


My real question about abortion was do you believe that the fetus is alive.