...If this really happened, if there were a ET UFO crash in 1897 in Texas...it would pre-date every thing we know about supposed UFO crashes...

it would mean that there has been a cover-up study of these objects ...a whole lot longer than just Roswell ...or the 1940's.

It would mean that the military Interplanetary Phenomenon Unit was much older ...more like likely started under U.S. War Department much earlier than the 1940's....

Makes me wonder if the Aurora crash object was the same strange airship sighted over Crawfordsville Indiana in the 1880's [over a decade before Aurora]

The UFO hunters show had them talking to a historian woman [in Texas?] I recorded that show and the UFO files show about Aurora. I guess I need to go re-examine them.

i actually ended up hearing that this particular case was actually a hoax. because everything dealing with this case, couldnt be found now. the witnesses, debris, OR the body. apparently they wont let people dig for it.

Yes there was another crash in the 1800's and it left a huge scar upon the earth, I have not been able to track back down my sorse upon it as of yet, I will post here when I do...it was pre Aurora days... I found in the location once and earth googled the location and scar is there were it gouged a path down a Mountain side...the event had a eye witness...

Pavot

ufo/et craft? or meteor?

Thnks Agent Mulder I will try to track it down, It was a UFO Crash and it was Colorado, 1800's (mid 1800's I think), it will be a heck of a search to fink the story...it would even be worth evestation old News paper stories around the towns of the area... Pavot

I have no clue which web site it was, because I was researching another story and came across it, its isolated, there was only one witness a miner or trapper, and it stock out from the other crazier sounding stories so I goggled earth the reported mountain site and sure enough if had a scar, but the area was wilderness at the time and the story was forgotten because unlike the 1900’s reports groups were formed and selling T-****s so it got forgotten about…I may be able to find the location again upon Google earth, but you would still need to find the Story to match it up with…

Pavot

Talking of old encounters., There is a legend from some place in England from Medieval times that . A great airship was seen with an anchor trailing from it that became entangled in the steeple of the local church. From the ship emerged some character who climbed down the rope to try and free it. I believe in freeing the ship he was left stranded on the steeple, from which, he was brought down. If memory serves me right, he was meant to have died after a couple of days in the village.



I think this might have been exposed as a hoax/urban myth and i cannot find any sources on-line that talk about the case. It is one i do remember cropping up in a couple of books though, when i was a teenager.

That seems to be the current consensus. The most popular reason for the hoax seems to be Aurora as a town was dying--I believe the railroad bypassed it, so someone came up with the crash story to liven things up and turn the town's fortunes around. Much like what's happened in Roswell.

Comparing Aurora to Roswell is a tad fallacious. Aurora was a town dying on its' feet Roswell quietly grew well before the publicity which really didn't' start seriously growing until the mid 80s. Yes Roswell makes a living out of the story and has, since the 80s become a focus for conventions etc. That's good business sense but to suggest that Roswell would have simply withered and died, as were, is just not true.


The correctional facility opened there in 1978, which was well before the publicity really took off. It provides milk for the largest Mozzarella cheese factory, leading centre for chilli production and is the closest town to the Bitter Lakes National Park. The UFO story has been a boon, but it has, by no means, been the making or breaking of the town.

I wasn't referring to the timeline, simply the point of "good business sense," "capitalism," or "exploitation." Take your pick.

Nigel's 8th Law states: "Never underestimate an American's willingness to make a buck."

Maybe they gave away free Ray Guns?

Actually it wasn't...If I recall correctly there was radiation above background level by the well where some of the UFO crash debris supposedly got dumped...

...as to the dead crash ET...the cemetary headstone and burial site has long been removed...the police barricaded the cemetary for three days...leaving only the headstone behind...later that was removed to...It was a memorial to the 'strange airship pilot'...people photographed it...

As for made up story to save the town...I think not, Aurora didn't grow into any huge city from tourism...(that was Galveston, pre-hurricane)

Are those photos available?

Just because it wasn't successful doesn't mean that wasn't the intention.

lol, you cant say that. because you dont know.





...whats your point? they tried, it didnt work. that means the story is Real?
its just convenient that nothing can be found from it today. or, nothing is Allowed to be found either. the debris is apparently buring down in some well they cant get into. and people wont let them dig for a body. people mighta just removed the little rock with the spaceship on it because no one was coming. their tourism idea failed.
and where are these photos?

I think Pavot is thinking about Aztec New Mexico it was a hoax too. But a real owners manuel would be nice to show off. pg.1 Turn on infinet drive engine,2.Fasten your gooiee green seat belt and hang on! Swisssssssssshhhhhhh>>>>>>

No it was not Aztec, or Texas it was Colorado and it was Mid 1800's, the site gave the trappers/miners details of what he saw and the vicinity of the mountains, I did an in depth search upon Google earth, satellite images and found the Mountain and the very visible traces of the Mountain having been gouged out, it was huge it was for a satellite view way up, and panned as close as I could get upon it and the landscape has sense then recovered with tree growth but the scaring is huge and there and it goes unmentioned as far as I have never come across any other mentions of it or the crash event or anything of it, I was not a member upon UM a year and a half ago and I happened across the story upon doing a research for a different UFO crash site of Modern times in Russia...I have been trying to relocate the article and web site ever sense, but it is in deep upon some web site pertaining to UFOs/UFO Crashes, I would not have even made a thought of it ever again, had I not been boarded that night and so then spent over an hour going over Google earth satellite images and came across the Mountain and the evidents major disfiguring of it as if an object of massive size took a huge gouge out of the landscape, this was mid 1800's I have reviewed a lot of well publicized crash sides this was not, there was only one mention of it so far as I have found one reported eye witness of the event, then everyone else got on with their mining and trapping and life of Loving saloon girls...

Look when I came across the article of mention I had already spent over a whole day reviewing UFO sites and articles to locate the artical I was searching for, so don’t even ask where that story is located at because one it was a year and half ago, and two I don’t even know if the web page is still there…Good luck searching, I found it then and it may still be there to be found…Pavot

As far as i remember it... there was an investigation that looked into a claim that someone had some actual debris from the crash. it turned out to be part of a very earthly mechanism from a pump. There were, some descendants of the original *witnesses*, who swore that some of the wreckage had been dumped in a well.


The investigators tried to find out whether there was any truth in this but found that the well, had had a huge concrete cap sealed over it and they were unable to obtain any permission to excavate further..

As for the grave., That is a rather strange tale. The locals were proud of the accuracy or their records and insisted that no one was ever buried in cemetery under the moniker of *spaceman*. However, the does seem to be some strong evidence for an unknown government body moving in excavating a specific area of the plot and taking something away, i believe, in the 1970s.

It is said that the *body* was buried under a certain tree in an unmarked grave and that. That was the site of the *disinterment*.

I think it is one of those that will rumble on in legend, but I really can't see anything being settled 100% satisfactorily either way.

This is fascinating....

Have you been able to relocate or remember the name of the mountain or area?...north or south colorado?

Why there is no more ufos crash?

I want to see a giant ufo crashing today over new york city so we all know the ets are here. Not fabricated histories 1oo years old.

...Actually anyone who stands near that well with a geiger counter could see it...







...'fraid not Agent Mulder, this was GEN-U-INE X-file. Doesn't mean it didn't happen, because it did. The tombstone was to an 'unknown airship pilot'
I haven't looked for the photos, but they have shown them before in documentary on T.V. There's people there who remember it or have photos of it as well. No need to bother digging for a body as it has been removed a long time ago as mentioned.

Oh and yes, there is physical evidence in the form of debris. Yes some people brought a part of a pump that the craft supposedly impacted but there was also other actual physical metal debris. Debris of an advanced metal alloy that wasn't actually produced until much later and not in 1897.

haha, im sure thats why people claim this one a hoax



...im not sure if that made any sense
and yes, it was an x-file, and itll probably stay that way because there is no evidence around for people to document. theyre just going on word of mouth now. notice how the rock with the picture is gone. apparently the bodies been moved to....where? no one has the photos out for people to see. and they dont have physical evidence either.
see, everythings Gone. making me (yes, me) skeptical of this whole account. i found it fascinating a while ago, until i read into it more. and found out, that nows theres only the story. nothing else.

I just panned Aztec and that site is a million roads and brown moutains this site was Green a remote, no road and heavely treeed huge moutain

Golden Colorado has a big gash in the side of the northwestern mountian,its called the "Coors Beer Brewery" I think thats why the little green men went under ground? just DONTEATUS

I have sense moves on to a Vista PC and the sat Topo image won’t let be pan in close enough and keep the color tones of the image as the same, I need to pan in and have the same color as my memory recall is not getting the same damn color image, I believe I have it pinned down to a search area to the green mountains (Green color coming up upon my Image screen) south of Slater and below to Hayden in-between those too towns and from Steamboat up into Clark in those huge green mountains somewhere but I don’t have the same PC, and resolution and color on a Pan in as I did back then, but those Mountains the green ones are very familiar to me…IF you put the Mountain dead center of page, the Gauge Ran as upon a East slope cutting West Northwest From the Southeast lost of green trees huge gash…I can’t pan it closer because I lose the color image and I need that image for my memory recall here, I will try to another PC a windows and see if the resolution is the same, it was what I found in on the first time… it could be those deep green Mountains directly due East of Meeker, those Mountains are looking real possible…Man I am not liking this Vista PC High Resolution images today, I need that Windows machine I Originally found it upon…

Pavot