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ambyglam
then thank god im no christian (oh the wit)

cos my winkie is keeping his jacket ON!

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Okays so its a little knick of a cut (head injurys generally look worse than they really are) but repeatedly hitting a child in the head with a metal sword???? No good can come from that even if its blunt one slip and no "medical team" can help a baby with a smashed in skull.
joc
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Okays so its a little knick of a cut (head injurys generally look worse than they really are) but repeatedly hitting a child in the head with a metal sword???? No good can come from that even if its blunt one slip and no "medical team" can help a baby with a smashed in skull.


I don't know....seems to work in my family....6 year old gets out of line...whack her in the head with the ole sword...if she cries...whack her again...won't stop crying....whack her till she does. I have only had to use that technique once btw.
KayEl
It is absolutely AMAZING that people screamed about decency on TV and on radio for fear of the effects it will have on their children, but yet with their newborn sons they would subject them to such horrific pain through circumcision. That, they don't care about the ramifications.

Hypocrites! Know that Satan is pleased.
Seraphina
I heard somewhere that circumcision is performed before the nerve endings of the baby are properly developed...I can't say I buy that too much though, unless people are now claiming that babies don't feel pain huh.gif

Guess that thing where the doctors spank them to make them breath when they're born must be some kinda old wive's tale then tongue.gif

Couldn't really care less about circumcision...I do think it's a somewhat strange practice, but oh well, to each his own...female circumcision on the other hand IS barbaric; in equivilant terms, I guess you could say it's the equivilant of cutting off the penis head (and I can imagine plenty of guys just crossing their legs in pain at that thought tongue.gif)

Usually it's not done in sanitory conditions, or with especially sharp tools...and for what? So there's no pleasure during sex? huh.gif Women are exposed to disease, infection, and pain for the sake of that? How can that NOT be considered barbaric?
stillcrazy
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Once again goes to show how people in the US never really matured


We are called barbaric because we used to circumcise male babies. It is no longer a automatic practice as it once was. An I agree with some that it should only be done for medical reasons.

As for other cultures, they can do as they please. Who am I to call cutting your child with a knife barbaric.
strichar
I think it is a very acceptable thing in a place where war, poverty, conscription, mass murder, and etc. etc. occur on a daily basis on a huge scale. That doesn't make it right by my standing, but who am I to judge an entire culture? Unless I live in that culture and am a part of it, then I have no right to judje what is done in it.
stillcrazy
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I think it is a very acceptable thing in a place where war, poverty, conscription, mass murder, and etc. etc. occur on a daily basis on a huge scale. That doesn't make it right by my standing, but who am I to judge an entire culture? Unless I live in that culture and am a part of it, then I have no right to judje what is done in it.


My point exactly. thumbsup.gif
Talon
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Usually it's not done in sanitory conditions, or with especially sharp tools...and for what? So there's no pleasure during sex?  Women are exposed to disease, infection, and pain for the sake of that? How can that NOT be considered barbaric?


Tut Tut, Sera you of all people should no better. This action is perfectly accepatable under PC, remember their culture is justas valid as yours.
doomgirl
Ok, what other countries do for religion is none of our business, but here are some facts in history for you all to think about:


Bloodletting Over the Centuries
Gilbert R. Seigworth, M.D.
Vestal, New York

Director, Obstetrics and Gynecology, Upstate Medical Student Program, and Active Staff, Charles S. Wilson Memorial Hospital, Johnson City; and Active Staff, Obstetrics and Gynecology, Ideal Hospital, Endicott.

Bloodletting is a procedure that was performed to help alleviate the ills of mankind. For an operation with a 3,000-year history, bloodletting has attracted little attention in recent historic accounts of medicine. Bloodletting began with the Egyptians of the River Nile one thousand years B.C., and the tradition spread to the Greeks and Romans; its popularity continued throughout the Middle Ages. It reached its zenith during the beginning of the nineteenth century, but had virtually died as a therapeutic tool by the end of that century.

The custom of bloodletting as practiced over the centuries might seem repulsive to the modern practitioner of medicine. However, the physician and his treatment must be judged in the light of the contemporary theory of disease. Primitive man looked on disease as a curse cast on him by an evil spirit; his treatment consisted of driving out the demon that possessed him. Neolithic man of the late Stone Age used flint tools for trepanning the skull as a method for releasing the demon; the logic of the treatment was sound, but the premise on which it was based was wrong. The premise was that the evil spirit of disease was contained within the skull and could be drawn out. In much the same way as trepanning allowed demons to escape from the head, bloodletting was supposed to facilitate the release of evil spirits from elsewhere in the body. Later use of bloodletting in hypertension, apoplexy, dropsy, and nervous disorders had a more physiologic explanation.

The story of bloodletting is intertwined in the mysterious fabric of medical lore; it originated from magic and religious ceremonies. The physician and priest were one and the same since disease was thought to be caused by supernatural causes. Witch doctors and sorcerers were called on to drive out the evil spirits and demons. Bloodletting was a method for cleansing the body of ill-defined impurities and excess fluid. The early instruments included thorns, pointed sticks and bones, sharp pieces of flint or shell, and even sharply pointed shark's teeth. Miniature bow and arrow devices for bloodletting have been found in South America and New Guinea. A small bloodletting instrument resembling a crossbow was once used in Greece and Malta. Wall paintings dating from 1400 B.C. depict the use of leeches for drawing blood from human beings


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