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Lionel
user posted imageJulie Ryder finds it hard to describe the lights that accompany her in hundreds of different photographs. Diamonds, circles, and streaks of translucent color often hang in the background, suspended over her head like an aura.She calls them orbs, and they've changed her life."The orbs are becoming more and more complex," Ryder said. "They are consciousnesses from other dimensions and are trying to make contact with us. The more complex forms are teaching us to communicate."Ryder, who works as a registered nurse in Helena, said she first made contact with the orbs in February 2003 after watching the video, "Orbs: The Veil is Lifting," with some friends.Since then, she said, she's learned to communicate with the strange spheres of light, and has come to know them well."We've done over 50 photo sessions and I've been present at all of them," Ryder said. "The orbs have been present at every single session."To eliminate the possibility of a mechanical defect, Ryder said she and other believers have used 14 different cameras to photograph the beings of light.The orbs appear when called, regardless of the time of day. They also come when summoned from mountaintops and movie theaters.Ryder finds it hard to explain her theory to skeptics. But with over 10 dimensions to explore, and with human beings living in only three of them, she said there are many possibilities."My personal theory is that they're inter-dimensional beings," she said. "They interact with consciousness."Four months after Ryder first made contact with the orbs, she had a vision. It was in June 2003, and she was at the Fairy and Human Relations Congress in Washington State.There, along with believer Gary Hovda, the Blue Orb appeared.The Blue Orb was unlike any other being of light Ryder or Hovda had seen. It had a membrane and filaments that crisscrossed within the sphere, she said."I think it was a visitation," Ryder said.

"It had a human form in it. It was the largest orb yet—almost as large as a human being."Ryder said she has searched the Web over, and while she has found hundreds of pictures of simple orbs, no one, as far as she can tell, has ever photographed such a complex form as the Blue Orb.

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Nethius
Orbs are now inter-dimensional beings? give me a break!

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...said she first made contact with the orbs in February 2003 after watching the video, "Orbs: The Veil is Lifting,"


all i can do is shake my head...

and i really hope she doesnt think that picture she's holding is real, i can tell it's not real from this tiny picture of it!
MoonFox
Yea... I mean i'd like to believe this as it'd be really neat. But that pic she's holding certainly looks fake. Just some flat photoshop concoction or something. I dunno....
TheNeutralBuddhist
Of all the weird, idiotic, manipulative, things I’ve heard people say, this by far is the worse.

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Diamonds, circles, and streaks of translucent color often hang in the background, suspended over her head like an aura.

Let me guess, she thinks she is mother Mary? w00t.gif

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She calls them orbs, and they've changed her life

Yea, but never stated how, in any detail what so ever.

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They are consciousnesses from other dimensions and are trying to make contact with us.

And, what sort of proof logical or illogical does she have, and presented? The only thing she stated is after watching a video "on orbs" or what have you, she then began seeing them, this video must have most likely had an influence on her.

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Since then, she said, she's learned to communicate with the strange spheres of light, and has come to know them well

Yet again, never stated how she communicated with the so called orbs, leaving a big gap for us to wonder in our imagination.

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We've done over 50 photo sessions and I've been present at all of them," Ryder said. "The orbs have been present at every single session."To eliminate the possibility of a mechanical defect, Ryder said she and other believers have used 14 different cameras to photograph the beings of light.The orbs appear when called, regardless of the time of day. They also come when summoned from mountaintops and movie theaters.


The orbs also come when summoned from mountaintops and movie theaters? She never stated not once, going to a mountaintop or a movie theater; how would she know this, or is she just throwing in her own opinion about where she thinks they can be called. Now, she says they appear regardless of when called anytime of the day, if they are beings they must not have freewill if they are listening to her every command. Another thing, photos typically could have been faked, that many times, to support her extraordinary claims.

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Ryder finds it hard to explain her theory to skeptics.

She also finds it even harder to explain to a person who doesent view the whole thing from a sceptics point of view.
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."My personal theory is that they're inter-dimensional beings," she said. "They interact with consciousness."Four months after Ryder first made contact with the orbs, she had a vision. It was in June 2003, and she was at the Fairy and Human Relations Congress in Washington State.There, along with believer Gary Hovda, the Blue Orb appeared.The Blue Orb was unlike any other being of light Ryder or Hovda had seen. It had a membrane and filaments that crisscrossed within the sphere, she said."I think it was a visitation," Ryder said.
"It had a human form in it. It was the largest orb yet—almost as large as a human being."Ryder said she has searched the Web over, and while she has found hundreds of pictures of simple orbs, no one, as far as she can tell, has ever photographed such a complex form as the Blue Orb.


Inter-dimensional being with no free will because they come to your ever command.........

They interact with consciousness, never said how, or what she experienced, they just do!.......

She had a vision....or a "dream", something which can be explained by science.

I agree, people have photographed little white orbs they believed to be spirits, and may be, but this argument she has that they are inter dimensional beings and interact with her conscious, gave no sort of detail or proof . Another thing, she took photos in over 50 photo sessions, why didn’t she present “any” of the photos besides that one out of range photo. She had so many photos, present them.

I’m with you on that one, all I do is shake my head, some people believe they are special and have all these super abilities to see things, when never have they probably practiced meditation in their life or tried to develop these skills, they just come to them, an average person, deliberately.
mdulin2004
QUOTE(Lionel @ Mar 6 2004, 09:01 AM)
"It had a human form in it. It was the largest orb yet—almost as large as a human being."Ryder said she has searched the Web over, and while she has found hundreds of pictures of simple orbs, no one, as far as she can tell, has ever photographed such a complex form as the Blue Orb.
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I had a dream or vision of this Blue Orb last night. It looks exactly like the one in this photo. I have never seen anything like this orb in my life. I know that this vision was from God. He has been telling me that Aliens are Demons, They are Real and They Exist.

Below is a copy of an email describing the dream I had last night. Again the UFO that I saw looked like a blue moon and it was identical to the one in this photo. The same color and shape and size. Aliens are Demons. Be warned.

Blessings,

As some of you already know in 1997 the Lord gave me a vision of two UFOs and told me Aliens are Demons, They are Coming and They are not Nice.

Recently I've been praying for more dreams and visions concerning the end times and last night I dreamed of this. I know this dream is from the Lord. It had the characteristics of a vision exactly like I had before. It was extremely vivid and I was more of an observer of the events than an actual participant although I did experience intense emotion as a reaction to the things I saw.

I dreamed that Brandon and I were camping and we were looking out of our tent at the sky. Brandon said look, and he pointed at the sky. There was a bright neon blue light that was moving very quickly across the sky. It was somewhat transparent and it looked like the moon except it was blue. As it moved closer to the trees it transformed into vehicle appearance similar to what a flying saucer or space ship might look like. It still looked like it was made out of neon blue light.

As it dissappeared behind the trees, suddenly a helicopter flew right near it and hovered over the trees. The helicopter had USA on the side of it along with some other words. Suddenly we looked ahead of us and we saw an alien lurched on top of a car. He was in a catlike position as if he was about to pounce. There was an officer standing in front of him with a flashlight. The alien looked exactly like the ones many claim to have seen. Skinny, large head and big black eyes.

Brandon and I began to rebuke the devil and take the authority of Jesus. Then we put on sneakers and prepared to run. (end of dream)

At this point, I believe the Lord keeps showing me these things because he wants his people to be aware that these manifestations are happening and they are about to become a reality to everyone. Sightings, abductions and crop circles are real. They are called phenomenons but they are very explainable and have been confirmed by many as demonic activity.

This is a very dramatic deception that is occuring in our generation and is preparing to deceive all mankind. These are signs in the heavens (UFO's) and signs in the earth (crop circles) and angels of light (demonic beings/aliens). Be aware that these things are happening and God's word is true.

There is one true God and creator of mankind, one mediator between God and man, Jesus Christ. Besides Him there is no other.

Things are going to begin to become very unbelievable in our generation. Take heed to God's word and beware of lying signs and wonders whose intent is to deceive. Pray that God deliver you from the hour of temptation that is about to try the entire world and that He give you strength to endure until the end. He that endures unto the end, shall be saved.


Michelle Dulin
Denver, CO
End of the World Ministries!
peacelover
Dear Lionel/Majestic 12 Operative:

Thank you for sharing the article. I don't know much about the discussion of "Orbs" but I did find the article interesting.

What do you think? Do you think that these are "Orbs" that this woman(Julie Ryder ?) has around her? Do you think that she can communicate with these mysterious things?

I have one other question. May I ask a question to Mdulin2004?

Mdulin2004: With great respect to you. With respect to your faith and belief. Could I ask please, if you think it possible that if there are actually "undentified aliens" or beings wanting to communicate with us - could they not have been created by God? I always learned that all things were created in God's name and that God creates all.

If God is warning that these so called "aliens" (meaning demons in your language) are demons, would it not be possible that God created the demon?

I ask out of a sense of wanting to understand. I ask out of a sense of being curious. I do not wish to cause you insult or to show disdain for what you believe.

Thank you Lionel.
Thank you Mdulin

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Peacelover
mdulin2004
QUOTE(peacelover @ Sep 14 2004, 05:09 AM)
Mdulin2004:  With great respect to you.  With respect to your faith and belief.  Could I ask please, if you think it possible that if there are actually "undentified aliens" or beings wanting to communicate with us - could they not have been created by God?  I always learned that all things were created in God's name and that God creates all. 


Thank you for your response. Before 1997 I thought aliens, if they existed, were probably just another one of God's creations. I assumed they probably lived on other planets or in other galaxies.

Then I had a supernatural experience where i had a vision of two UFOs and aliens. It was terrifying. God revealed to me the vile nature of these creatures. He told me to write down everything that I saw and to tell people that Aliens are Demons, They Exist and They are coming.

This is why I share what I share. I asked God, if this vision is truly from you then show me in the bible and I immediately remembered this verse of scripture:

Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

I began to understand by the gift of knowledge that Satan had not yet been thrown out, but that he was coming. And when he comes we will see him and his angels.

These appearances have been Satan's way of conditioning mankind for his appearance and the appearance of his fallen angels. They are coming. They are even here.

May the Lord add a blessing to the reading and hearing of his Holy Word.
peacelover
Mdulin:

Please go to you topic starter. I will post my next question for you there. I find it a bit rude to be using Lionel's topic posting to communicate.

Thank you Lionel.
Peacelover
Magikman
peacelover,

Lionel was a 'news poster' for us when he was a regular member, this just happened to be one of many he thought would interest members here. He hasn't been active on the forum for several months, he has been busy moving and setting up a new job. The 'majestic 12' title he displays is just his post rating level not a personal preference, like yours is ' Extraterrestrial'.
peacelover
Mafickman:

Thank you for sharing the information. I think I was probably just trying to display some respect to a moderator by including the "majestic 12 operator".

I will be careful in the future not to include the latter as it is not needed.

I hope I made sense there. I hope you understood what I meant.

Anyway, thanks again.

Peacelover
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