I was wondering.. I heard this question asked in the documentary about the Chaplin who stayed with the condemned men until the very end and he asked if you thought the person convicted was guilty could you would you be the executioner at their execution?
The death penalty is a controversial subject and the ones who are against it would say could you personally condemn and carry out the sentence of a convicted murderer? Could you be the the one who pulls the switch or injects the poison?
We well most of us will not and can not kill so if we are put in a position of carrying out the sentence we impose would the death penalty still be around?
Just wondering what your thoughts are on this. I find it to be an interesting question.

I wouldn't want to flip the switch or pull the trigger, and I don't uncomfortable being a member of a society that condones this, because if our gov't is for and by the people, I'm somewhat guilty by association.

I could be the executioner, but only for murderers, or sex offenders.

That's kinda the point I was trying to get across, if we are willing to let it be done then what is the difference than doing it ourselves?
I am not against the death penalty but if we as a society are okay with executions being done behind closed doors then what makes it so different if we ourselves pull the trigger or the switch I mean as you say we are still guilty by association are we not? If we are able to sat this man or woman should die for their crimes then we should have to be made to be a part of it so to say.
If we did have to personally carry out the sentence of death would we still have a death penalty?

So if you were sure these murderers and rapist were guilty right? What if there was a shadow of doubt would you still be inclined?

I could never kill anyone unless my kids and husband were being attacked.

We don't have the death penalty in the UK, but if we did there's no way I would want to be involved in anyones execution.

that is a loaded question. It is only going to create judgment and hate. There would be no need for the death penalty if people were taught and allowed to defend themselves with lethal force. Kill or be killed is the law of nature and as human beings we deserve the right to protect ourselves with, if nessecary, extreme measures.
In the same vein... I have seen many people who were evil or had done wrong, get what they deserved. While vengence is a natural emotion, divine retribution is so much more beautiful.
I do not think it is right that criminals are sustained by the people though. Criminals do not deserve thier rights and innocent civilians do not deserve the burden of providing for the guilty.

in answer, yes, I could, without flinching.

Yes i could. After a fair trial and appeals. Murderers and those who's crimes are serious enough for death deserve to die. And i also believe they should be executed in public.

Yes I could. If that person is guilty no problem. If you kill some one then you have no right to live (in my book). More so if its a child that was the victum you would not have to ask me twice. abaut yes I would do it.

Anyone who's read anything I've written on this forum must know how I feel. I am completely against the death penalty. Innocent people are dying who cannot afford decent legal counsel, no other reason. It's just like anything else that concerns our government, give them an inch and they take a mile. It's all a big numbers game to them. Murder the poor. Then the numbers look better for them.

I could and would pull the switch, push the plunger, drop the pill, pull the lever, squeeze the trigger, whatever is required. Ohhh and I would sleep like a baby that night, no problem.

Agreed.

...and yes, I would be.

Quite agree here. With all of the points you've brought up.

And Yes, I could. The idea of it in general is intriguing, I'm curious as to the impact, or lack of impact it would have.

I think we all can be excutioners of ourselves or those around us on a daily basis without ever really thinking oo emm I did that...bigger range than just an injection haha

I think execution is necessary for:

1) murder (mental stability and age shouldn't be taken into consideration)
2) rape (by either gender, must be proven without a doubt)
3) pedophilia (molestation of either gender by either gender of minors under a certain age...12?)

It'll free up prison space and give the population a much needed culling.

Gimme a hatchet and I'll get it done for you.

No, it is not a job I would consider applying for.

If it could be depersonalised, then yes. A hefty paycheck would make it easier too.

Well aren't you the good decent people. Protecting all those poor innocent people. You would kill for them even. Oh my, how wonderful you all are. And I believe every word you're saying. I believe you would kill your neighbor and your neighbors children to make "more space" not only in the jails but in the community. You'd kill your neighbor for the right amount of money. The right amount depending on how down and out you were. You'd throw their children out into the wild, the foster homes, the world of "social services". In a world where it's very likely they'll be ignored, abused, molested and even muredered. And you'd do it for a lot less reason than your neighbor is a murderer or a child molester. You'd do it because it would make your life a little bit better. You'd do it because all those people in jail and the children in the social services programs are bringing in a nice welfare check into your state from federal. Of course you'd lie to yourself or ignore all the facts so you can pretend you have a good reason for doing what you're doing and look like you're the good, decent person. You're doing everything for all the right reasons. It's the American way.

*yawn* Done yet?

Interesting subject, but could I do it..No..

Yawn..yes I am. Anything to add besides your yawn? If you're that bored with conversation maybe you should turn off the computer and turn on Fox News. There's all kinds of murdering going on there and the tv isn't questioning your motives for enjoying it.

No actually. I don't find your reply to be worth much more than what i could view on Fox news. Your reply to the topic was simply a way for you to insult most everyone you could that you didn't agree with. You have far more in common with Fox than you'd like.

As for enjoying it? You are the one who's putting motives in the mouths of others. Perhaps you should stop spewing forth such bile, and you'd find that what you think of people and their motives, is quite different.

(worlds smallest violin)

If someone raped and murdered one of my kids and they asked if I'd like to the do the honors of pulling the swith or injecting the piece of trash, well then I would have no problem. Maybe they should leave it up to the victim's family to decide their fate. If it was someone that I didn't know or have ties to, then I would just stay out of it. I"m pretty torn about this issue actually.

Twpdyp and Mad Manfred

I'm sorry if you don't like my opinion but that's what these discussion boards are all about right? If you don't like the post just ignore it. I know joining the lynch mob of society is more exciting when everyone jumps on the lynchmob bandwagon and no one is disagreeing. Then you can go about your life thinking you're just like everyone else. I'm doing the right thing when I murder. But... there are other opinions. In the future if you don't like what I have to say please feel free to ignore me. I don't really care. I just wanted to state my opinion and I'm going to continue doing so.

I think you made a good point there, but how does anyone 'truly' know what they would or wouldn't do. IMO it's easy to say 'yes' I would, or 'no' I wouldn't while sitting here at the computer, but when it comes to the crunch would we still feel the same way I wonder

Your opinion was about the responders, not the topic. You called them names, and then acted very holier than thou. Perhaps you should have ignored the posters if you didn't like what they expressed.

Did you just call those of us who feel differently a lynch mob? If you truly cannot see the difference between vigilante justice and our legal system, perhaps you should study the two a bit harder. No one here said they wanted to put on a mask and kill people for pleasure, or anything of the sort. And no one stated they wanted to join in any of the hate crimes that are so vividly conjured up when you reference lynch mobs. And now you say that anyone who agrees with them is a mindless drone? Are you reading what you're writing? Do you truly think your words are so benign?

I have the utmost respect for opinions, and stating them. I lose that respect when someone cannot express their opinion without trying to show that theirs is better than everyone elses. You may wish, perhaps, to re-evaluate how you say things. Feeling strongly about something is not an excuse for trying to prove superiority.

I responded to what I read on this thread with my true feelings about what was written. I attacked no one personally...you did. Maybe you're the one with the problem taking everything so personally. And show me where I said everyone who agrees with them is a mindless drone? Are you reading what I'm saying? It seems that you're the one that can't tolerate others opinions.

Its a really interesting topic. I watched a programme on skys crime and investigation channel (UK 553) the other night Called Sentenced To Die and that was about Huntsville (?) in Texas.

It showed the guy who was 'in charge' of the death chamber and the chaplain there who spent time with the prisoners about to be executed.

It shocked me when they were talking about the 'last meal' and wondered how many inmates could actually face to eat when they know what awaits them.


I personally couldn't be an executioner. Over here in the UK we dont carry the Death sentence, we just give people insanely short prison terms!

But when you read some of the gruesome things that people on death row have done to their victims, I am sure given only two choices the victim would opt for death by lethal injection rather than death by torture etc.

Seeing as you've mostly copy-pasted my response, and didn't bother to read it, I shall respond to your First question.





As for not attacking personally, sure. You simply attacked everyone who posted with anything that remotely disagreed with your post.

That's exactly it! No one knows exactly what they would do because none of us have ever been in that situation. If it came down to it I honestly don't think I'd have a problem hurting someone who hurt my own. My 'mama bear' reflexes come out when anyone messes with my family. That's just a natural reaction for me and probably any parent. But would I lower my self to their level of killing and harming aif it came right down to it? Right here and now I say YES!!!!!!!!! But if it came down to it, letting him live and letting the other prisoners 'take care of him' on a daily basis sounds good too. I certainly hope I never have to find out!

I have thought about what you said many times , I mean we are killing these people for their crime which is killing so what is really the difference? That we do it in the name of law, that we the people decide to kill this convicted murderer because he or she killed. I do think the death penalty is right in some cases and stand by it but when you really think about it we the people are doing the same crime but under a different name. I would personally think I would not be able to pull the switch that kills another human being because that would make me no better than the murderer but then I think about the crime they committed and have second thoughts, especially when children are involved it makes me want to think I could do it but in reality I don't think I could. Pedophiles and people who harm children are not accepted in the prison society and they are made to live excruciating painful lives in prison so maybe that is far more punishment than killing them. A lot of the death row inmates want death just to escape death row so are we essentially giving them what they want, should we instead let them live their life out on death row if they wish to die? I think that is far greater punishment for some , to live the rest of their lives on death row.
If my loved ones were harmed in any way by another person I suspect my mind would be changed dramatically, as someone said we never really know until we are in that position and I pray none of us is ever put in that position but the victims families that have been in this situation often have their mind made up one way or the other and it should be respected.

I have even heard of families of the victims' fighting for the rights of the killer! There has to be something said for families who have it in their hearts to forgive and even advocate for the creeps who killed their loved ones. That is amazing to me. Am I that big of a person? I don't know. I have said before on here that I have 2 close friends brutally murdered and forgiveness to their killers hasn't even crossed my mind. One was mentally insane and the other was wacked out on cocaine. I miss my friends very much and the thought of their killers getting to see the light of day outside of the bars is not even a equation for me. I live by and tell my children to ALWAYS take the high road. Most of the time you can find me there, but in some situations I can't even fathom it. This is such a hard subject because like we've said, we wouldn't know what to do unless it happend to us. I know the anger I felt for my friends, but if it was my own family?!?!?!? I just don't even want to go there!

I'll say no, because taking a life is ultimately an immoral act, and I don't want any unneccesary blood on my hands.

I think that if it came down to it, I could pull the switch/inject the poison or whatever need be. I can't say I wouldn't falter before actually doing it and not be able to bring myself to kill a person. It may be a bit sick or depraved but from how I feel now I really don't feel like executing someone would have a big impact on me. Death never really has, now I wouldn't be able to watch as they died. That's what really gets me is the last bit before death.

Again I think you should go back and read my posts. I wasn't even talking about the people on this thread in general. I was talking about the American public. I was speaking of your ideas...yes your opinions. Not anyone personally. I don't even know who any of you are. And I believe every word I wrote and I take nothing back. And your remark earlier about the fact that we were talking about our legal system not some vigilante justice system... sorry, but to me some vigilante justice system would be a step up from our legal system. Sorry if you don't agree.

1) Is this a second account you're posting from then?

2) It is evident that you do not know what vigilante justice is. The lynch mob that you compared everyone to, is vigilante justice. Jumping people with a pack of friends and beating them to death is vigilante justice. Who knows if they're guilty or not. They're already dead. Sorry, but vigilantes aren't as clear cut as The Punisher and Batman.

I am rather surprised that you don't think you're personally attacking people. You're calling people simple, bandwagoners, simple, etc. But hey, you did say they enjoy murder. That's right. You said they enjoyed murder. So, what's not a personal attack about that? Just that you didn't say "Oh man, Your mom is soooooo fat!"?

If they were killers...in vain of say killers such as the BTK killer, Richard Ramirez Ted Bundy etc.
And I was absolutely convinced they were guilty...then;
Sure, no problem.

I think I'd even take a slap stick approach... just to annoy them even more...

Judith/CB, sending you a PM now about getting those two accounts merged.

Why is it when animals kill its nature but when humans kill its wrong. Humans have morals why do they have morals because they are feed into you since birth. Honestly I think this moral of killing is evil,bad,wrong is there to protect the weak from the strong. Could you kill someone? Simple answer is yes, there is a point when your morals, thoughts, and reason will vanish and you will act purely on insticts. Im sorry to say though that Insticntly humans are killers, were no better then any other creature on this planet. Now to the OP question could I be a executioner? Sure it be no different then being a soldier, police officer, or any other field that you have good likeability of killing someone. Infact it would be easier since I wouldnt need to use judgement, I wouldnt have to make the choice if this person deserves to live or die, its already bein decided by many other people. It all comes down to morality and morals can and have changed since the dawn of humans. Whos to say in 50 years that executions want be as watch as the Olympics is today.

Yes, if I had to kill I certainly would, IF being what I considered had to kill. I only kill when I feel the need I have to for survival this would be out hunting, without any meat for a while. You bet I would take down another animal for meat. But as to kill someone just because no, I have to have a reason to. One would be if they are threatening me, if that is the case and I give them warning (usually multiple times) and they still physically go at me, than yes I would kill that person with my bare hands. I do not think it is wrong to kill a person (even though I am Christian but do not believe in the bible word for word or agree with everything) if you feel you need to. As for excuting people in prison, ick I just don't like how each society think their method of killing is more humane. O, you use iv drugs...but do we actually know it doesn't hurt? I mean some get their head cut off it takes 15 seconds, others shot in the head...how long does it really take.


In all honesty if I killed someone I would have no remorse or feeling about it, if I knew I was doing the right thing, if I was not sure about the case I would not do anything, unless a true pyschopath was going out to murder a whole village...but in all honest you just don't know who is who at the end of the day. Some in the jail get their justice, some were never meant to be there. I can't judge, even though I try to.

Could I be an executioner? Absolutely.

I think it's wrong that the government makes murder illegal, yet they murder and have others commit murder for them and for their causes, so, when it comes to the death penalty? I think it should be up to the condemned's victim's families to call the shot and/or be the executioner(s), if that's the shot they've called. I don't think it should be up to the government. They're a bunch of murdering hypocrites as it is and they shouldn't have the right to impose their philosophies upon us- We The People who pay their taxes and wages.

Say something original will you!

You're apparently too caught up in the "WHOA, PITY ME & THAT (so called innocent) SADISTIC PREDATOR MURDERING/RAPIST ON DEATH ROW HE CAN BE REHABILITATED" hogwash you can't even begin to grasp a zilch of reason about yourself-- or the reality of the crimes committed. Not to mention, those involved on the victim's accounts. You know why? because those like you tend to reject the full capacity of those crimes--the reality of these crimes that are committed, and the FACT that many of these monsters CAN"T be rehabilitated and are with their own admission, GUILTY. You'd rather go LA LA LA LA in your disney land world and believe that the world is all good with forgiveness, and great white cute character change.. GET WITH REALITY!! You go out and full fill your' sexual sadistic predator like fantasies on any given person, you damn sure deserve death. Not even an appeal (If found "without a reasonable doubt) as far as I'm concerned.
I say go to quartering! Public Hanging, hell, or even stoning is better than what we do now..
Make the punishment a deterrent.. swift, and clean..
That's right..
I'm on the bandwagon-and I'm staying there.. I see their victims enough.. it's my motivation for staying PUT.

Yea bag a month old baby girl.. skull fracture/ parental abuse.. .. see if it changes any opinions..

"why, they can be rehabilitated.. "


what about that little month old girl, can she be rehabilitated down at the morgue??

Could you be the executioner? Yes...