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user posted imageHumans could live for hundreds of years as scientists develop treatments to "cure" old age like any other disease, a US researcher said Thursday.Michigan State University clinical professor of medicine Michael Fossel said researchers had already "rejuvenated" skin cells in the laboratory and the potential existed to expand the technolgy to turn back the entire ageing process. "We're altering the amount of gene expression and in skin cell tissue in the labratory we can actually reset the clock and take old cells and make them act like young cells," he told AFP. "The question that we want to ask ourselves is 'can we do this to people?' "The idea that you cannot reverse ageing in cells or tissue is wrong, you can. We just don't know if it will be useful clinically, a lot of us suspect it will but we haven't tested it yet." Fossel, in Sydney to address a conference on longevity, said scientists had altered the way cells act. "What we essentially do is reset the cells to do what they used to do when you were young," he said. "We don't change them, alter them, no we just reset them to do exactly what they did decades prior to what they're doing now.

"What sets the clock in you is a change in gene expression that occurs as you get older. It has to do with dividing cells and the damage they cause to all the other cells. "For example, in your heart, when people die of heart attacks they die because their vessels have problems, and that clock is set right in the cells that lie in the vessels and what we can do is reset those clocks. So the question is what happens when we do it? In the lab it works beautifully, but again it's different trying it in people."

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Nethius
kind of scary, and kind of cool!

i know lots of people will say we're lpaying god by doingthis, but hey, i wouldn't mind living for a few centuries! just imagine how much we will learn in that time!


the biggest problem would be population... guess we'll have to start terraforming mars!
Nxt2Hvn
According to the Bible Methuselah lived to be 969 years old and is said to have been the oldest recorded human being.

So if it was possible then... could it be possible now?

Very Interesting... I myself plan on living to be 100 or more.... tongue.gif

You know what they say.. the good die young! LOL cool.gif


(btw.. note how I worded the above... as not to start a debate on if the Bible is true or not...just stating that the oldest recorded human is said to have been 969 years old.. just happens it is recorded in the bible. )
PsychicPenguin
Uh.. ohhh.... NXt2Hvn replied... and she mentioned the bible!!! Quick! Lock this thread!! tongue.gif
Halo_Jones
This is likely to be something that we'll never here about again, but a few mega important rich people will strangely start to look younger then disappear out of the spotlight...only to be reinvented as younger relations.


I don't think it will ever be offered to normal people if does prove effective, the consequenses on the world would be too great. The population would be at breaking point within a few years not to mention all that extra drain on the resources like fossil fuel, land fill sites ect ect
wunarmdscissor
Look at the damage we do in our short lives never mind what we'd do if we were given centuries. lol
Seraphina
Yes, I agree....if the technology is ever finalised, then it'll probably only be provided for either those people who's continued existance may benefit mankind (for example, if another Einstein were to pop up), or to people rich enough to bribe their way into accessing it.

Wide spread use of it would cause the population to balloon, and we'd all be in serious trouble tongue.gif
LittleIrishVampiress
there must be some way we could harness this technology and control the population... wacko.gif leave that problem to the next eistein! w00t.gif
PsychicPenguin
I know!! We have to use this technology and the atomic bomb simultaneously wink2.gif
Dark Fire
In fact, Humans can live as long they can survive. At around age 90 (it varies with every person) or so, humans stop aging and can continue to live as long as they don't have any serious problems related to health. Kind of amazing isn't it, you won't look like the crypt keeper if you're 200 years old. wink2.gif
PsychicPenguin
errr... true or not.. i don't really want to live my 90s forever... but i think i'm stop aging on 21.

Oh.. check out http://www.alexchiu.com

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doomgirl
We as human's weren't meant to live forever, with better health care we are living longer, maybe one day the normal age will be well and trully over 100, but like everyone has said, the Earth can't support us all, we are like a virus, slowly destroying our host and when there is nothing left, what do we do then? Move onto the next host and start again. It is madness.
soulfire78
Just an interesting tidbit...

Did you know that cancer cells are immortal? As long as they are provided with proper nutrients, they will continue to divide and repair themselves, generation after generation.

In fact, in many laboratories around the world they use HeLa cells for experimentation. These cells were harvested from the cancerous tissues of a woman named Henrietta Lacks (HeLa) back in the 1950's. Unfortunately, she died only a few months after the harvesting of these cells, but part of her still lives on in petri dishes worldwide.

In the spirit of the immortality discussion, I thought it might be interesting!

~SF78
tat2 netty
bounce.gif now come on who whants to live for ever?
Dark Fire
QUOTE (PsychicPenguin @ Mar 16 2004, 02:37 AM)
errr... true or not.. i don't really want to live my 90s forever... but i think i'm stop aging on 21.

Oh.. check out http://www.alexchiu.com

w00t.gif grin2.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

I have seen this guy on Tech TV in an interviewed on Unscrewed. I am not exactly sure if he may actually be correct. I wish to see an experiment that proves his point. Get a 21 year old, use any of his inventions, then wait about 60 years and then see what happens. thumbsup.gif
ambyglam
i think the best thing is that this story already exists on a different thread in bizzarre stuff!

loll

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saidanddone
I really, really do!
Not for money, not for fame, but for knowledge.
We are alotted so little time in life...we need much more...
HOW MUCH WOULD THESE TREATMENTS COST?
I MUST KNOW! to HELL with money! If I had to live in a slum, that would suit me just fine, as long as I could brood on the ins and outs of life. No joke. Please tell me. dontgetit.gif
Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE (saidanddone @ Apr 3 2004, 05:08 AM)
I really, really do!
Not for money, not for fame, but for knowledge.
We are alotted so little time in life...we need much more...
HOW MUCH WOULD THESE TREATMENTS COST?
I MUST KNOW! to HELL with money! If I had to live in a slum, that would suit me just fine, as long as I could brood on the ins and outs of life. No joke. Please tell me. dontgetit.gif

So just for knowledge you would be willing to see everyone you love or come into contact with die. You would want to have to make new friends constantly and keep living you life knowing that you will never really have friends with you... You would want to live at times of who knows... Wars, famine, killing, the end of the world... And so what? Your knowledge would be usless unless you were a history teacher... You would learn about a society or era before it gets killed and life through the next and do what... To me the knowledge would be useless... It would not be used because future generations would better what you would know... Your knowledge would be out dated and a thing of the past which would only really be used to conversations or books or a museum... Hell if you would life for centuries and centuries you may as well be an exhibit in a museum cause you'll have nothing better to do with all your family and friends long dead... And congradulations!!! for old knowledge you are able to witness a horrible horrible end to humans and the earth! What would be the prize then?

(sorry for the scarcasm)
buggyelfmaiden
Starting to sound a lot like the Highlander movies now...

Though seriously... I would hate living for centuries... And I'm days shy of a 1/4 of one...

I mean part of me would think it's cool, but Humans really are a plague to the earth. We should fade away and let her heal if it's not to late.
LittleIrishVampiress
you could travel all of space if you had all that time to kill! w00t.gif whistling2.gif
dezavala
QUOTE (Dark Fire @ Mar 15 2004, 11:12 PM)
In fact, Humans can live as long they can survive. At around age 90 (it varies with every person) or so, humans stop aging and can continue to live as long as they don't have any serious problems related to health.

This is an excellent observation. You can live as long as you want as long as you don't die. LOL!
AbductingU
QUOTE (buggyelfmaiden @ Apr 4 2004, 04:50 PM)
I mean part of me would think it's cool, but Humans really are a plague to the earth. We should fade away and let her heal if it's not to late.

Not all of us are a plague to the earth, and when she is ready she will get rid of us.. Then who knows what will be of her.. Hopefully before she plans the big extinction we could move to Mars..
buggyelfmaiden
And spread the curse of humans onward?

*Sighs* Okay... but let's make peace with the martians okay?

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Diebytheflyguy
QUOTE (AbductingU @ Apr 7 2004, 08:18 PM)
Not all of us are a plague to the earth, and when she is ready she will get rid of us.. Then who knows what will be of her..

Who is "she." Your wife?... The first lady?... Martha Stewart?... Anyways, what exactly makes "mother earth" a real person? How does she know when to get rid of us when she is not real, has to brain and has no thought?

QUOTE
Hopefully before she plans the big extinction we could move to Mars..


First mother earth can not plan an exstinction... One reason is because THE EARTH DOSENT PLAN BECAUSE IT HAS NO THOUGHT... and another could be that she wouldnt "plan" it because asteroids could strike, the sun could blow up or anything outside earth is not a deed done by "mother earth...." Unless - of course- she plans an assination with the sun...
careerdrunk
For years now, I've been saying that someday "they" will develop the technology to determine, via cell analysis, one's date of death -- if it is by natural biological causes.

What irks me is that we are plagued with these crazies who want to stop cellular and stem cell research on so-called "religious" grounds. Somebody put 'em under the grounds, please! If these people had any spirituality they would realize that we ARE here to learn "to play god" as they like to term it.

Some time in the very distant future we will return to the hereafter (same thing as the therebefore) as greatly ameliorated beings resulting from our dealing with this world. At that point we will be ready to create our own universes and intelligent beings. Some day they will return to us their creators to create their own universes -- ad infinitum. We will all be linked, via our fore-gods to the Prime Mover who will share in our/his/her creations. Each subsequent generation of gods' creation is of far greater splendor, radiance, and effulgence than the ones preceding. In this manner creation via evolution (eternal creation) occurs throughout all eternity. I call this the Eternal Odyssey. Beats the hell out of sitting on a cloud framming a stupid harp, doesn't it?

In this scenario we share in all of the creations of our descendant gods. I know, it sounds like a franchise deal, but I did not plan it as such. I couldn't help it, as it was revealed to me via the divine afflatus. Lo and behold, how surprised was I when I serendipitously came across this in Psalms 82:6 " I [God] HAVE SAID; YOU ARE GODS AND ALL OF YOU ARE CHILDREN OF THE MOST HIGH." Thats the great secret of religion -- not only do we have a personal link with Deity rendering churchianity redundant, but we are deities within/to come. The present tense is used here -- "are." All events to a Deity are in manifestation at once. Quantum physics makes the same claim -- that time is an illusion -- past, present, and future are one. In other words, [I]that which will be is, that which is was, and that which was is forever more. Its going to be ever-growing throughout all eternity. thumbsup.gif
PsychicPenguin
Wow.. that's great careerdrunk.. although you are apparently drunk... laugh.gif
AbductingU
QUOTE (Diebytheflyguy @ Apr 7 2004, 10:31 PM)
QUOTE (AbductingU @ Apr 7 2004, 08:18 PM)
Not all of us are a plague to the earth, and when she is ready she will get rid of us.. Then who knows what will be of her..

Who is "she." Your wife?... The first lady?... Martha Stewart?... Anyways, what exactly makes "mother earth" a real person? How does she know when to get rid of us when she is not real, has to brain and has no thought?

QUOTE
Hopefully before she plans the big extinction we could move to Mars..


First mother earth can not plan an exstinction... One reason is because THE EARTH DOSENT PLAN BECAUSE IT HAS NO THOUGHT... and another could be that she wouldnt "plan" it because asteroids could strike, the sun could blow up or anything outside earth is not a deed done by "mother earth...." Unless - of course- she plans an assination with the sun...

Threads from people like you make this site a waste of time.. You are obviously just trying to be a jerk!!


With a thread like that it sounds like your the one with no mind or thought,..

Where's your proof of what you CLAIM to be true w00t.gif
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