Amen.

Yes, but the cost in life is just too much to barry.
Here in Israel we also have Hamas, which is an Islamic Wahabbist terrorist group (with many ties to Al-Qaeda), so ofcourse Israel will support any fight against fundamental Islamic terrorist groups. Only this week we stopped three suicide bombers in Tel-Aviv and Jerusalem. All were Hamas terrorist (ofcourse there are also PLO terrorist, but I didn't mention them here although they do have strong ties with Hamas and Hizballah and they often cooperate with each other, because some will probably won't agree with me tying secular PLO to Islamic terrorism... ).

1/17/05 This does not include 3/11/04 Start from the date after the event.

If you do that with 9/12/01 (Day After) go 911 days forward you get 03/11/04

It is curious that back then they mentioned 11 planets
Anyway.. the story is about Joseph and his brothers (you should knoww this already if you're familiar with the Bible)

100% agreement.

It seemed after nine eleven, when we here in the Divided States installed our security threat-o-level-o-meter. Every time a caterpillar spit on the sidewalk we raised it up a notch. Only to have nothing become of it.

My fear is that the Americans are going to get so complacent with this system that even as the bombs are going off and the threat meter has gone to black, some folks will say. "It's just more of our government over reacting again"

The ol' 'Peter and the Wolf' syndrome.

On the other hand.

The other half will be running around screaming "The sky is falling, the sky is falling" Every time a Muslim sneezes.

AKA Chicken Little theory.

It's a no win situation.

Smallpox and the Plague are two completely different entities. Smallpox is a disease born from the virus variola. It is said that the disease emerged thousands of years ago as populations increased. The plague, or "black death" as it was known is a bacteria-born disease; the bacteria in question being Yersinia pestis, which lives on black rats and the fleas that live off the rats.

Smallpox is all but eradicated and the last known death was in Birmingham, England in the 80's. There were several stockpiles that were never destroyed because it was thought that a cure for HIV could be found from this particular virus. The last known source for this terrible virus was in Siberia, wether they have destroyed it remains to be seen, but as yet there is no evidence to support a theory that this virus could ever rear its ugly head in warfare.

The US government has taken steps to prevent any such production, not that it matters in todays climate, there are so many biological options open to terrorists that it would be impossible to erradicate them all. Also, we have seen just how inept the US government and their intelligence can be as regards weapons of mass destruction.

Spain may not have a large military presence in Iraq but by pulling out at the first sign of repecussions will allow terrorists to greatly influence European politics, alot of people were against a war and if their pro-american government is seen to not be protecting them they will elect an anti-american government.

I do believe they say "one mans freedoms fighter is another mans terrorist"

poor? yes maybe, but what kind of feudalist pig are you to dislike someone because they are poor?

lowlife? Why? because they're doing something they believe in? that they think will change the world, hell, that IS changing the world?

Cowards? no.

I also believe that the U.S. government commits acts that could be considered as terroristic. I do not agree with these acts. But you have to ask yourself whose side are you on. I myself am an American who wishes that there was some magic way to end all war but there is not. We are the world's good guys and are the peacekeepers. Hooah!!

I am not riddiculing these people for being poor. It is a shame. Feudalist pig That's funny

Changin' IT for the worse!

Cowards Yes.

A connection????

The world is so blind...

Read this from CNN:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Facing an outcry on Capitol Hill, the Pentagon on Tuesday killed a program that would have had investors betting on the likelihood of terrorist attacks and assassinations.
"It's going to be terminated," Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz told members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, where he testified about the reconstruction effort in Iraq.
But criticism about the controversial Pentagon program -- brought to light Monday by Democratic senators -- dominated part of that hearing and others on Capitol Hill.
Wolfowitz, answering a question about the program from Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-California, defended the Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), which created the program and set up a Web site describing it.
"The agency that does it is brilliantly imaginative in places where we want them to be imaginative," he said. "It sounds like maybe they got too imaginative in this area."
"There is something very sick about it," a clearly angry Boxer said, adding that those responsible should be fired.
Wolfowitz said he'd only learned about the program Tuesday morning and added that the department will "find out exactly how this happened."
The program, called the Futures Markets Applied to Prediction (FutureMAP), would have involved investors betting small amounts of money that a particular event -- a terrorist attack or assassination -- would happen.
It has been part of the Total Information Awareness program under retired Adm. John Poindexter, a prominent figure in the Iran-Contra scandal during the Reagan administration.
His current boss, DARPA director Anthony Tether, was asked whether Poindexter would keep his job. "I don't see why not," he said as he left meetings on Capitol Hill.
Republicans moved quickly to distance themselves from the program, which was supposed to start Friday.
"We're going to recommend to the secretary of defense not to use such funds as he has available ... to implement the initial stages of this program," said Sen. John Warner, R-Virginia, chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee.
"I just got off the phone with the head of DARPA, and we mutually agreed that this thing should be stopped," Warner said at a hearing on military promotions.
Tether agreed. When reporters asked him later whether the program was dead, he replied, "Oh yes, absolutely."
Before the Pentagon pulled the plug on the program, it generated fierce criticism, particularly from Democrats. "I couldn't believe that we would actually commit $8 million to create a Web site that would encourage investors to bet on futures involving terrorist attacks and public assassinations," Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle, D-South Dakota, said on the Senate floor. " ... I can't believe that anybody would seriously propose that we trade in death ... How long would it be before you saw traders investing in a way that would bring about the desired result?"
Monday, Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Oregon, said, "The idea of a federal betting parlor on atrocities and terrorism is ridiculous and it's grotesque."
Sen. Byron Dorgan, D-North Dakota, called the idea "stupid."
Wyden and Dorgan brought the proposal to public attention Monday.
The ranking Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, said that as reports surfaced about the plan, "Our first reaction was that it was a hoax."
But Warner, in an exchange with Levin during the hearing, said, "There's been no effort whatsoever to make it secret. The program is modeled after a successful program, utilized by one of the nation's foremost think tanks, which while not directed toward terrorism, is directed toward analysis of other contingencies in the future, and in the community's been perceived as a fairly successful program."
In a written statement, DARPA had said FutureMAP "is exploring new ways to help analysts predict and thereby prevent the use of futures market mechanisms."
DARPA had acknowledged the program faced "a number of major technical challenges and uncertainties. Chief among these are: Can the market survive and will people continue to participate when U.S. authorities use it to prevent terrorist attacks? Can futures markets be manipulated by adversaries?"


Nuff said?

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto = 9

if you believe in Nibiru = 10

what could be the other 1.....

but seriously;
you are all fearing terrorist attacks that probably wont happen
it seems there is one per year, but people seem to think there is one per month....

THERE ARE NO REAL TERRORISTS

I dont support suicide bombings, and mass murder at all, but you have to look at it seriously, how many people do you know in the world with the guts and the brains to do that kinda stuff, hardly any, trust me. The handful of "terrorists" that everyone fears are just people standing up for what they believe in, just in a very Zealous fashion.

I know I may seem like a monster for saying this, but

the USA had 9/11 coming for years, it punished arrogance, and mistakes made by politicians and other people in power were just as responsible for the people in the planes for the deaths of those people who died in the towers.
hopefully everyone learnt their lesson from it, but from what ive seen noone has.

people hate Muslims for no reason other than the fact that a few of them were promised eternal glory if they did some pretty horifying acts.

and look at Mr. President, he believes he is a hero, the Americans are going to save the world from all the nasties which dont exist.

sorry if I kinda went off topic there, once again I dont condone terrorism at all, but you cant sit around acting like "why in hell did it happen to us'

/end rant

For the vast majority of Muslims, 9/11 and 3/11 were against everything they believe. Younger Muslims are muslim in name only. Much like early christian history, you followed the local religion in order to be left alone by the zealotes.

Handful is kinda hard to describe in terms of global numbers. If you are talking a population of muslims to the rest of the world, then the handful is small by comparison. If you are talking by a region, then the number increases. If you talk about a local population, then the number can be a majority.
The other part of your comment is interesting as you stated it, can also be taken in a different way. Brain washing, for a lack of a better word, is a common ploy of cults and certain 'religious' orders. Jim Jones of the Peoples Temple, convinced a group of over 900 people to commit suicide at Jonestown, Guyana.

I don't think your a monster for making this comment, basically because it has a bit of truth to it.
The arrogance of the politicians in this country for the last fifty years or so has made us one of the most hated countries in the world. We always feel that we know more, do more and have more. We think our values and such are what the whole world wants. This is not the case. We are the largest consumer nation in the world. We have tried to force ourselves on just about every country on the planet, regardless if they wanted it or not.

I feel for those that lost family and friends in the attacks. I worry about the troops in Iran, afganistan and other 'hot spots' around the globe. But until our politicians start looking at the whole flipping root of the problem, this handful is going to grow and no one will be safe.

As the old saying goes, "I respect your right to express your opinion" but at the risk of being banned from this Forum, I am biting my tongue and have one hand tied behind my back.

But sometimes I think we as Americans forget that we are not the only ones who live on this planet, and our way is not always the right way. I think years of our political bully tactics have just come back to bite us in the rear.

But one comment I should remark on, is that terrorism is not the way to bring about change. And while our political system is not the greatest and our leaders are people I would not hire to manage my money, those responsible for the attacks are those who flew the planes into the towers and pentagon. I have yet to hear anyone say that these terrorist thought that this was the only way to bring about change. It has not changed anything for other countries other than bring us all less freedom. Those who flew the planes are all dead, and they will have to answer to what ever god for thier actions. I have studied the Kor'an and have yet to find anywhere that it says to kill innocent people. It even states very clearly that Muslims are not to kill innocent people of your enemy.
Politicians are not responsible, but politics are.

Enough ranting.

I agree with you darn close to 100%, stillcrazy. You have said what I wanted to say, but did not want to create havoc with this thread.

Let me just add one comment:

No matter what our actions in the past have created for our actions in the here and now...... NO ONE deserves what happened that day in 2001. No one in any nation on this Earth.

Amen

whats the big deal? A single nation recieved a terrorist attack, yes no nation anywhere deserves it, yet things 100 times worse than this are happening to hundreds of thousands of more people than here, or do you think American lives are somehow more important than any other?
Its a continent
Not a Race

So al quaeda are only stupid because they killed thousands of inncoent americans and not israelis.

Ahh a noble comment......

Al queada , are the buggest scumbags on the planet and nothing they do will ever help the plight of the palestinians, who by the way arent devoid of blame for the situation.

It isnt racist to say that bin laden and his cronies are meglomaniacs intent on the destruction of all things western.

How do you expect us to react. Should we just forget what they did???, why is it that whenever we defend ourselves its a bigoted war on islam but when thousands of civilians are killed its "the poor oppressed muslims retaliating"??

(By the way a few of you may be surpised at my attutide to that post becaus eof my views on the war in Iraq but i have always felt this way)

And BTW when you attack a religion its called bigotry not racism and by sounds of your attitude towards the jews you have it in bags.