DreamRebel
Mar 12 2004, 06:21 PM
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Phantom
Mar 12 2004, 07:02 PM
Good topic, very interesting. I'll move it to another section, though.
Although not a -government- conspiracy, I feel this is in place in that section.
stillcrazy
Mar 12 2004, 07:24 PM
D/R Your really starting to scare me.
The last couple of years I have had a fear of my own Birthday 4/19
cause of Waco and OK city, I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.
But back to the point. There is a website that explains all the qu'ran and how the extremist use certain passages to justify their attacks and holy war on the coalition countries. Dang if I can remember it. (If I come across it again I edit and add a Link) The whole point of the site was to demonstrate that the extremist are bastardizing the Qu'ran and using it to justify an unholy war.
But as with any extremest religious group, Can't tell them anything.
Naveed
Mar 12 2004, 07:58 PM
I'm very interested to see if you're right on this idea D/R because it makes almost perfect sense.
DreamRebel
Mar 12 2004, 08:15 PM
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stillcrazy
Mar 12 2004, 08:38 PM
| QUOTE |
| if some internet computer google junkie dude from Southern California (me) pinned the tail on the donkey and the hundreds of morons working full time to solve this did not.. |
What scares me D/R is that you may be right. Some yahoo in a black suit can't figure out whats right in front of their faces.
But you did a good job on this one.
BTW To the spooks lurking on the net. Check it out. You may get a skivvy medal for this one.
Kellalor
Mar 12 2004, 08:46 PM
Very interesting theory.
Scary thing is, it makes perfect sense.
We'll just have to wait and see.
Kellalor
Mar 12 2004, 08:50 PM
Surah 4 Ayhat 74
You could also switch the numbers around slightly.
7/4/04
The 4th of July...
Kismit
Mar 13 2004, 12:55 AM
Kellalor depending on where you live . In Newzealand and Australia July 4 would be written 4/7/04 ..
Dream Rebel , can you point me in the right direction for thie site you mention here
| QUOTE |
| I spoke with some people about a trend that I had found when reviewing Islamic message boards and such (Here is what I stated in that communication on another site): |
It's a very interesting theory and I would really be interested in checking these coded messages out ..
Kellalor
Mar 13 2004, 12:57 AM
| QUOTE (Kismit @ Mar 12 2004, 07:55 PM) |
Kellalor depending on where you live . In Newzealand and Australia July 4 would be written 4/7/04 .. |
Very true.
The Man
Mar 13 2004, 04:04 AM
If it happens, Ill get really drunk, have wild sex with my fiance, and then Ill kill myself.
Kismit
Mar 13 2004, 08:39 PM
Is that because once your dead you'll appreciate it more . Suicide is definately not a survival instinct is it ?
joc
Mar 13 2004, 11:55 PM
| QUOTE |
Now, if we look at Surah 3 Ayhat 11 we find:
Like the striving of the people of Firon and those before them; they rejected Our communications, so Allah destroyed them on account of their faults; and Allah is severe in requiting (evil). |
On March 11th, terror spread through Madrid as multiple explosions rocked trains in which over 200 people were killed and hundreds of others seriously wounded.
DR, I wouldn't just presume that the government already is working on information like this. I think it is your responsibility, no, your
obligation as an American citizen to share this information with the federal authorities. Specifically the Office of HomeLand Security. It makes sense that these people would plan attacks on dates that have significance to them.
As StillCrazy pointed out, 4/19 was Waco and 4/19 was a planned retaliation for Waco in OK City.
Very observant. Now, go tell the Feds!
Kellalor
Mar 14 2004, 12:05 AM
| QUOTE (joc @ Mar 13 2004, 06:55 PM) |
DR, I wouldn't just presume that the government already is working on information like this. I think it is your responsibility, no, your obligation as an American citizen to share this information with the federal authorities. Specifically the Office of HomeLand Security. It makes sense that these people would plan attacks on dates that have significance to them.
As StillCrazy pointed out, 4/19 was Waco and 4/19 was a planned retaliation for Waco in OK City.
Very observant. Now, go tell the Feds! |
I agree!
Even if they don't listen you can at least know you tried.
Maybe they'll offer you a job.
stillcrazy
Mar 14 2004, 01:24 AM
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| As StillCrazy pointed out, 4/19 was Waco and 4/19 was a planned retaliation for Waco in OK City. |
I just keep waiting for another misguided jerk to do something the next 4/19.
PrettyAndCorrupt
Mar 14 2004, 05:57 AM
Joc,
The edited image that you posted was very rude, ignorant and offensive.
An elderly man holding the Qur'an does not automatically signify "terrorist."
Much less that he be bombed or fired upon like your image suggested.
I do not deny that extremism is an epidemic in the Islamic societies but just as there are innocent Americans, there are innocent Muslims, and they do not deserve to be persecuted due to the ignorance of their fellow man. Persecuting them for something a moron who shares their religion did..is stooping to the level of a terrorist for persecuting a man just because he didnt like the mans leader

I in NO way intend to be rude..but I felt that needed to be heard.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
EditI agree on the picture part. Although I am sure Joc didn't mean to offend the innocent muslim population, I removed it anyway.
buggyelfmaiden
Apr 4 2004, 04:35 AM
| QUOTE (stillcrazy @ Mar 12 2004, 08:24 PM) |
D/R Your really starting to scare me.
The last couple of years I have had a fear of my own Birthday 4/19 cause of Waco and OK city, I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop.
But back to the point. There is a website that explains all the qu'ran and how the extremist use certain passages to justify their attacks and holy war on the coalition countries. Dang if I can remember it. (If I come across it again I edit and add a Link) The whole point of the site was to demonstrate that the extremist are bastardizing the Qu'ran and using it to justify an unholy war.
But as with any extremest religious group, Can't tell them anything. |
Gah another 4/19 person.
I swear that's a bad day...
Personal reasons:
1) My parents met on that day exactly 2 years before I was born.
2) My godfather's preformance on the stage was interupted by my birth 2 years later
3) 16 years to the day my mother left becasue she fell out of love with Dad.
4) Oklahoma
5) Broke up with my first fiancee (On 22 b-day)
6) Lost my job at my favorite place (23rd b-day)
Sorta looking forward to my 25... but hesitant.
Mystify
Apr 5 2004, 02:29 PM
Just a quick note on this. If sept eleventh was represented as 9:111 then the 4:74 in not July 4th but rather April 7th. I think it's a great theory you have there. But i don't think we have as much time as you thought. April 7th is in 2 days.
dezavala
Apr 5 2004, 02:59 PM
4/20 is Hitlers birthday and the Columbine massacre...
fearfulone
Apr 5 2004, 08:12 PM
Oh wednsday will be a day to fear for those reading this thread i suppose...thats why I AM GONNA GET DRUNK AS HELL!!!! lol...im gonna drink myself stupid and just ignore the $hit going on around me!
no, no, no really though...we must come together on the forum on wednsday night if something does happen. I propose a chat that nite if a terrorist action were to occur. Just my thought.
buggyelfmaiden
Apr 5 2004, 08:28 PM
I'll be here. My hubby works nights now and I can't stand the thought of being 'alone' at night...
*Crossing her fingers that nothing happens though.*
Kellalor
Apr 6 2004, 04:27 AM
Oh, thats right... Wednesday...
*Praying nothing happens*
thebarman
Apr 6 2004, 09:48 AM
OK, so thats tomorrow, has anyone told the authorities yet?
I am genuinly concerned about this threat, as my country stands firmly by America in the war on terror (and rightly so) yet we have not yet been hit with a terrorist attack.
This combined with the current rate of illegal immigrant rises it can only be a matter of time before an attack takes place, fortunately so far all attempts have been prevented the most recent being last week.
I'm from the UK too, and unfortunately I think we are likely to be the next targets.
I was reading somewhere else, that peeps are wondering if the Sears Tower may be the next target,
above top secret and also the date of April 19th perhaps being relevant.
aoreport.comIt's all scary stuff, but it's good to know folks are thinking about things. I just hope the secret services are looking into this stuff too.
thebarman
Apr 6 2004, 01:04 PM
Welcome to the UM forum Rhi
I'm sure the relavent authorities are looking into the matter and remain on alert. I would speculate that perhaps another attack so soon to 3/11 is doubtfull as everyone is on the lookout.
An attack would more likely come when things have calmed down and people are not expecting it.
That said however on these dates I'll be staying well clear of Underground stations, large concerts and football stadiums as large groups of easily accessible civilians are the prime targets.
secondhand
Apr 6 2004, 01:19 PM
| QUOTE |
Tuesday April 6, 11:43 AM Poison gas terror attack 'foiled' Police have foiled a poison gas attack in Britain. A highly toxic chemical called osmium tetroxide was to be used in a device, ABC News reported in the US.
The chemical compound, which can be bought on the Internet, causes victims to choke to death in agony. It also attacks the cornea and can lead to blindness.
It could have been used by terrorists to target the Tube in London, Gatwick Airport or a busy shopping centre, ABC News said.
Police and security services in the UK were alerted after mention of the chemical was picked up at the GCHQ electronic listening centre, ABC News said.
They moved to stop any possibility of it being used.
Osmium tetroxide has a pungent smell and comes from the Greek word for "stench".
It is used in research laboratories as a staining agent in electron microscopy.
Despite being considered extremely hazardous, small amounts can be obtained through the Internet for about £100.
Experts say it could be "piggy-backed" on to a conventional bomb which would see the invisible chemical dispersed into a crowd of people. As they die, victims would suffer asthma-like symptoms known as "dryland drowning".
Police in Britain have not said that they have found any osmium tetroxide. And while al Qaida has included plans for chemical attacks in training manuals, it has so far used conventional devices. |
fearfulone
Apr 6 2004, 03:09 PM
Maybe they just foiled the attack that was supposed to take place tomorrow?! Good job UK!
mowo
Apr 6 2004, 03:21 PM
I dont get this whole machiavellian numbers thing about terrorist attacks, here is an interesting fact: Osama Bin Laden also attempted to blow up the WTC on the 26th of February 1993. So, using the weird back to front american date thingy, that would make it 2/26.
Does this number relate to anything?
has the significance of this number been tied in with 9/11 before?
I think quite possibly fretting about when and where the next attack will be, is playing right into the hands of terror. And frantically trying to establish a pattern or sequence, is hopeless too, I'm afraid.
lets just think: It could happen anytime, anywhere, anyhow. who cares? Either it happens or it doesnt.
Lets not get scared by terrorism.
Joe013
Apr 6 2004, 11:30 PM
I agree. The whole number thing is creepy. But I went to that aoreport.com place and those number's they had were complete bull. I'm sorry, but anyone can come up with any number if you divide or multiply it right. Get real? Although whoever started this thread (can't remember and my internet is too slow for me to go check) has a good point. Those numbers could mean something, and they do to me, as they are untouched by mathematics. I think that's the problem with our Intelligence Agencies. I think they are trying too hard to go into incomprehensive mathematics and equations when the reality could be staring them right in the face!
Good thread and posts though!
fearfulone
Apr 7 2004, 03:55 PM
NOthing has happened yet...its april 7...hmm...maybe we were wrong
thebarman
Apr 7 2004, 04:26 PM
| QUOTE (fearfulone @ Apr 7 2004, 04:55 PM) |
NOthing has happened yet...its april 7...hmm...maybe we were wrong |
Either that or it was prevented, either way - good.
lets all hope that nothing happenes...and that we were wrong..or the government prevented it
fearfulone
Apr 7 2004, 05:23 PM
PsychicPenguin
Apr 8 2004, 08:40 PM
Joe013
Apr 8 2004, 09:12 PM
good theory though...very well thought out!
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