Cyberstorm14
Mar 13 2004, 01:46 PM
Hey everyone! I was just wondering why there aren't many 'specific detailed' sites about lake monsters and such. Sure there are a few, but there aren't many pictures on it and the sightings are described to me as 'allmost fake' if you pay attention at the sentence constructions.
I'd just wanna share that with you.
Tom
Mar 13 2004, 11:53 PM
I think you answered your own question there
lizettemarie
Mar 14 2004, 06:21 AM
Most of the pictures are fake I guess...
WorkMonkey
Mar 18 2004, 11:43 PM
lol...
DreamRebel
Mar 18 2004, 11:54 PM
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Mar 18 2004, 11:56 PM
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MusicMakesMeHigh
Mar 19 2004, 03:07 PM
Actually, If you look in the same gallery, It shows Rine's underwater photos.



I just watched a show on discovery kids about Loch Ness.
These pictures are real.
Also.. think about it.. Loch Ness in particular. The lake is 24 miles across and nearly 1000 feet deep. IF something happened to the dinosaurs, such as a comet hitting the earth, the Loch ness would remain relativly unchanged at the bottom, and would allow such a creature to survive.
I wanted to add, Loch Ness isnt making enough tourist money these days, the area surrounding it is being considered for development.
WorkMonkey
Mar 19 2004, 05:25 PM
| QUOTE (MusicMakesMeHigh @ Mar 19 2004, 03:07 PM) |
I just watched a show on discovery kids about Loch Ness. These pictures are real.
Also.. think about it.. Loch Ness in particular. The lake is 24 miles across and nearly 1000 feet deep. IF something happened to the dinosaurs, such as a comet hitting the earth, the Loch ness would remain relativly unchanged at the bottom, and would allow such a creature to survive. |
You saw it on TV?
Ah so it must be real then.
This is also assuming several, or atleast two fertile breeding "nessies" got into the loch and have since been breeding another two to breed another two etc...
Their population numbers would have to be severely limited as not to set the lochs eco system out of balance.
Not really likely is it.
Byuu94
Mar 19 2004, 09:38 PM
I find that many times the stories behind hoaxes are more interesting than the hoaxes themselves. Not all sea-serpent pics are fakes, many "scientists" will call them fake. We still don't know enough about the oceans to tell what is and what is not. As for Nessie, I doubt it exsists because it is in a confined area that would limit food, and cause the creature to be seen more often. The was a movie filmed in 1970 called "The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes" in which a 40-ft model of the " monster" was used. The model broke away from the sub that was pulling it though, and sank to the bottom of the loch.
MusicMakesMeHigh
Mar 29 2004, 06:38 AM
Excuse me, But I didnt say it was real, I said I believe it.
Furthmore, the show also said that if large super sized sharks; that have been discovered in the lake, and can survive off the vast population of one particular fish, why couldnt group of plesiosaurs? (sp*)
jamesrav
Mar 29 2004, 11:37 AM
a very good 'Loch Ness Monster' site is the one by Dick Raynor
http://www.lochnessinvestigation.org/however, for those going in with a hope or belief that something unique lives in the Loch, i think you'll be disappointed. He really does a good job knocking down every picture, sighting, etc. - not in a patronizing, insulting way, but rather using good detective and scientific skills.
The Rines pictures have almost certainly been 'enhanced' way beyond what is reasonable - looking at the originals and the final versions is quite shocking.
If it's true that the Dinsdale film really shows a boat rather than an object underwater (and he makes a good case that it does), then Nessie really has little chance of being something amazing - the sightings would appear to be of well-known animals such as sturgeons, otters, deers, etc.
jimma
Mar 29 2004, 12:27 PM
| QUOTE (MusicMakesMeHigh @ Mar 29 2004, 07:38 AM) |
Excuse me, But I didnt say it was real, I said I believe it.
Furthmore, the show also said that if large super sized sharks; that have been discovered in the lake, and can survive off the vast population of one particular fish, why couldnt group of plesiosaurs? (sp*) |
No you didnt you said 'these photos are real' no where in your post does it say 'I believe'
thebarman
Mar 29 2004, 01:22 PM
| QUOTE (Byuu94 @ Mar 19 2004, 10:38 PM) |
| I doubt it exsists because it is in a confined area that would limit food, and cause the creature to be seen more often. |
As I've said before, a defining characteristic of a "Loch" is that it is linked to the sea, therefore it's not confined.
Loonboy
Mar 30 2004, 11:29 AM
As an aside here, the above photograph of a 'fin' was featured on a documentary about Nessie a while back, and they showed the original photo along with the 'enhanced' photo. The original photo could be anything, but the 'enhanced' photo shows what appears to be a fin/flipper attached to a larger body.
The documentary makers took the original photo and attempted to 'enhance' it to get the same result as the fin picture, but no matter what technique they used they could not get even close, which suggests that something is amiss with the 'enhanced' photo above... or it has been doctored to appear like a fin.
Those pesky tricksters...
Boddhi
Mar 30 2004, 12:06 PM
| QUOTE |
| Furthmore, the show also said that if large super sized sharks; that have been discovered in the lake, and can survive off the vast population of one particular fish, why couldnt group of plesiosaurs?(sp*) |
Large super sized sharks have never been found in the lake!
For a large marine animal to have survived from the last Ice Age to now, it would have a breeding cycle that would require large numbers of mating pairs. Fact.
The result of these large numbers in a body of water just over 22 miles long would result in frequent sightings both by eye witnesses and sonar detection. Fact.
The eco system of the lake is not strong enough to sustain even a small amount of large aquatic animals. Fact.
No strong evidence has ever been put forward to validate the existence of "The Loch Ness Monster". Fact.
Nessie does not exist. Fact......................................or Fiction?
Loonboy
Mar 30 2004, 08:56 PM
I don't believe that there is a Nessie, in the traditional sense of a solitary pleisiosaurish beastie. I agree with the above 'facts' and I think the scientific logic dispells any possibility of Nessie being in the loch.
However, as with a lot of paranormal phenomena, things are not what they seem. When encountering paranormal things, our everyday world does not act exactly as it should. For example, it has been reported that when people have spotted Nessie or Ufos or ghosts etc, their camera equipment has stopped working, when a few seconds earlier it worked properly and a few seconds after it works fine again. Other aspects are the behaviour of animals and creatures - they seem to suddenly go quiet or are absent altogether until the encounter is over and things return to normal. The list goes on, but my point is, maybe paranormal phenomena are exerting some force over their immediate environment or causing some sort of ripple around them that distorts how things are or should be.
Now the cynic would say: oh the person is saying their camera was broken because they saw nothing and are making it up etc.... and that is one possibility, but these circumstances have been reported throughout decades and the world over. I doubt that everyone having the same experience is a liar.
Do I think Nessie exists? Yes and no. Yes I think people are seeing something and it might be like a pleisiosaur, but I don't think it's a pleisiosaur living alone in the loch....
Is that as clear as mud or is it because it's late here?
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