The clip isn't available outside the US. Is there any other place where we can see the clip? I didn't realize that they caught a Yowie on thermocam.

here's a couple more links to the episode posted on other websites, maybe one of them will work:

AOL Television - Yowie/Haunted Mosque

Myspace TV Videos - Yowie/Haunted Mosque

Without even seeing the episode or knowing what you are talking about, allow me to make a predition:

They found something ambiguous that has many other explanations.

Without even seeing the episode or knowing what you are talking about, allow me to make a predition:

They found something ambiguous that has many other explanations.

Fascinating! Thanks for pointing that out, I can never seem to find the time to catch Destination Truth, so having a link to watch it is great!


Anyhow, for those who couldn't see it, long story short:

Josh and his team runs to Australia. They stop and go shopping and Josh gets a new hat. They interview some eye witnesses and check out the home of this lady who has dozens of trees in her back yard who's bark is absolutely ripped to shreds. They take some of the bark for samples to see if they can find any DNA and go up for a night in the Blue Mountains. Now, I can't believe they found something only by hanging out for ONE freakin' night. A week might have brought in more evidence, but ONE freakin' night...I'm surprised they managed to get anything.

Anyhow, it was a pretty cool episode. The thing that they captured on camera is really just two multicolored dots that they managed to catch on the bottom of a very, very, very steep cliff. When they analyzed it, they said it walked much too smoothly to be a wallaby. (Did I spell that right?) They also managed to capture what looked like a gleaming eye from the undergrowth when they left a camera hidden on the floor. When they went to investigate the area where they saw the eye, they found a tree that had fresh claw marks. (Or teeth marks, or long vertical slits, or whatever you want to call it. Basically, it looked like something was digging in to the bark.) They found short, black, hair samples embedded in the bark, but no DNA strands.

They congratulated each other, then went home.


Edit: Wow, shouldn't we all feel special? I was watching the Destination Truth episode on Mokele Mbembe, and Josh was flipping through printed Unexplained Mysteries Pages!

not ambigious, it was clear cut, and non shaky. dont you think its possible for an animal to remain hidden in the remote forest of austrailia?

Anyhow, it was a pretty cool episode. The thing that they captured on camera is really just two multicolored dots that they managed to catch on the bottom of a very, very, very steep cliff. When they analyzed it, they said it walked much too smoothly to be a wallaby. (Did I spell that right?) They also managed to capture what looked like a gleaming eye from the undergrowth when they left a camera hidden on the floor.

Too smooth for a Wallaby (no - capital W LOL) I wonder how they made that determination?

A Wallaby is a long way from beng 8 foot and 800 pounds too. One would think they might take that into consideration? Wallaby's are really small. A red Kangaroo is more Biff stature.

Of all the Ape men theories, I think the Yowie is the most unlikely.

Lol, Wallaby .

Anyhow, I'm assuming they couldn't really tell the height of the creature. Like I said, they were on a really, really, steep cliff which they couldn't climb down without special tools and such (convenient, right?) and they were using a special heat-sensing, thermal device. Even the background and objects around the thing were just blackish blue. Impossible to tell what it was.

If I were them, I would demand to stay there another night. They possibly come close to seeing a Yowie, and yet they just pat each other on the back and go home? The thing about those shows is no progress will really ever be made...they'll find something interesting, for sure, but nothing earth-shattering.

What gets me is the fact that people will say, "Well, they set up a couple hidden cameras, and they didn't catch the creature so, it can't exist." Yet, if you notice, NOTHING passed by it, except for the occasional moth. Even active nocturnal creatures that we know for sure exist were not caught on the camera, or at least, not all of them.


most skeptics, unlike psyche, who is true to his work, ignore this fact
Grrrr...(okay, I'm done my angry rant).

Yes, most people do seem to ignore it. If creatures that we know exist and have a good population can not be noticed by the camera, why not other extremely rare creatures?

psyche, what hominid is most likely to turn out real? i didnt know u were an aussie, and i take your word that you explored alot of it.

they would be like hitting the jackpot

I have been spotlighting (hunting at night) and have taken a few roo's and wallabies, but my experience has been that most nocturnal animals in OZ tend to be small ground dwelling creatures. Introduced animals like dogs and cats kill at night. Not many large creatures wander the Oz bush at night.
Quolls are captured on cams. Lots of wiildlife are. These guys make a living from it. Check out the Bear at the bottom of the page.

World Rarest Rhino caugt on cam.

Bear caught on cam.

I believe they even caught a Zebra Duiker on cam. Some mob has cropped it's back and is trying to make out it could be a Tassie Tiger. Only flaw for them is the people shot the piccy in Africa..... a fair swim from Tassie LOL.



Good likeness. A Bit of blur and crop and hey presto........the Tiger lives yet again.......

amazing photos.

their have been alleged squatchs caught on cams, but idk bout the photos. more cams are set up for known species than unknown species.

And that makes a difference.... how? Surely a Bear cam would just as well pick up a Sasquatch?

Because Sasquatch has out-of-focus genes that have been passed down from generation to generation. In fact, I hear it's becoming so common, that a new race of Blobsquatches are coming in to existence.


But I really don't know. The fact that there are no pictures or videos that are at least semi-clear (excluding the Patterson Film, which is actually the only reason many believers hold on to their faith) seems merely impossible by now. With each passing day, it just becomes more and more unlikely.

I have pretty much lost hope in Bigfoot, but I do not believe all is lost for other creatures like the Yowie or Yeti.

RFI DNA

For me, the pictures were the first clue, but the bones thing kinda resolves the possibilities for me. I like to hope the Pendek is a starter, a surviving Florensis man would be an amazing find, slim as the possibility may be. Stories like the Pangboche hand keep me wondering too.
Yowie I really do not think is much of a possibility. It gets too hot here for such a large hairy hominid. Even the Southern states get heatwaves and reach temps of over 42 deg C.

well psyche, most of our fossil record is incomplete. we are still finding new species. even giganto is incomplete.

There are many things I'm sure we would not believe exist that do. If said creature does exist, It does so only because it can remain elusive, which leads me to believe it would have to be more intelligent than we are in certain respects. Kinda like a manimal-lol.
I've never been down under. See allright? Always wondered about it's flatout wide open spaces. I'll take your word for it psyche but remain somewhat reserved on the entire matter.

Thank you kindly. I too feel a local can always offer a good report.

The main reason I feel the Yowie cannot be, apart from my hunting experiences is that Meganthropus apparently went extinct because his body shape did not offer enough surface area to dissapate heat and died out in the warming planet. With the heatwaves we get here, I just cannot see how such a large creature covered in hair could survive. Older people and children have been killed by the temps we have had here. Being covered in long hair would be a fatal disadvantage. It should really have the population congregating in the South, the Northern reports just cannot possibly be right. If they were the creature would have to be a big water user making him easy to spot or track. I really think Australia one of the worst places to fit such a massive hairy hominid.

The bones debate comes in again, it is nothing like the PNW. Many places are very dry and offer great preserving conditions. There are quite a few successful fossil sites in Oz.

The flat out wide open spaces would be more suited to a cryptid like Megalania. Interesting theory on how the Indigenous managed to get the better of this beastie with fire. They took losses, but learned staying downwind of a fire is a good thing to know. They just trapped it in a ring of fire to reclaim hunting grounds and of course for safety. No doubt Megalania ate quite some newcomers before they learned how to deal with it. Very unlikely that beastie still roams this wide brown land, but we still have some intensley amazing creatures.

most likely megalania was seen 1000's of yrs ago, and based their legends of dragon on a large komodo dragon.

One of the first Platypus specimens, I believe was considered a hoax.

yes, it tells us not to reject an animal no matter how weird it is. they are also deadly and can kill a man

Shows that bigger is no better doesn't it. The magafauna are all gone, and we little apes ate a great deal of them, or ate their food resources and starved them. I rather enjoy reading about the Clovis people as well.

But....still exists in the fossil record.

yes as a jaw and a couple of teeth.

Remember you are trying to prove an extant species. Which in every other case on earth offers a great deal more than purely fossils.

we know the leopard exist. yet their were camera traps set up for 5 weeks and found nothing, despite the leopard existing.

also, only 1 chimpanzee specimen was found in a 40 month period

most likely megalania was seen 1000's of yrs ago, and based their legends of dragon on a large komodo dragon.

Megalania was encountered by the first indigenous Australians. No doubt it snacked on quite a few of them before they worked out ways to get back at the beastie.

Megalania was encountered by the first indigenous Australians. No doubt it snacked on quite a few of them before they worked out ways to get back at the beastie.

i just remember a team looking for a snow leopard at one time, they set up traps for 5 weeks, and found nothing. sometimes they are lucky, sometimes they arent. bf must be the greatest lesson on how an animal beat the odds at avoiding humans for so long



how big was it? 10 ft tops?

The lack of complete, or nearly complete fossil skeletons has made it difficult to determine the exact dimensions of Megalania[3]. Early estimates placed the length of the largest individuals at 7 metres (23 ft), with a maximum weight of approximately 600–620 kilograms (1,300–1,400 lb) [5]. However, more recent and more rigorous studies give very different results from one another.

In 2002, Stephen Wroe determined that Megalania had a maximum length of 4.5 metres (15 ft) and a weight of 331 kilograms (730 lb)[6], while its average length would have been around 3.5 metres (11 ft), and mean body weight would have been between 97–158 kilograms (210–350 lb) [6][7].He concluded[6] that the earlier estimates reaching lengths of 6 metres (20 ft) or more and a weight of several tons[8][9] were exaggerations based upon flawed methodologies.

However, Ralph Molnar [3] in 2004 determined a range of potential sizes for Megalania (made by scaling up from dorsal vertebrae, after he determined a relationship between dorsal vertebrae length and total body length). If it had a long thin tail like the Lace monitor (Varanus varius), then it would reached a length of 7.9 metres (26 ft), while if its tail-to-body proportions were more similar to that of the Komodo dragon, then a length of around 7 metres (23 ft) is more likely. Taking the maximal 7 m length, he estimated a weight of 1,940 kilograms (4,300 lb), with a leaner 320 kilograms (710 lb) being the average[3].

From Wikipedia


Snow Leopard on cam

nice pics of the leopards. reason why we see them is bc we know their migration pattern and where they occur. on bifs side, we know theirs enough food, but dont know if it lives in packs, or is nomadic

An individual snow leopard lives within a well defined home range. However, it does not defend its range aggressively when encroached upon by other individuals. Home ranges can vary greatly in size. In Nepal, where prey is abundant, a home range can be as small as 12 km2 (5 sq mi) to 39 km2 (15 sq mi) and up to 5 to 10 animals are found here per 100 km2 (39 sq mi); whereas, in habitats with sparse prey, an area of 1,000 km2 (386 sq mi) supports only 5 of these cats.[4]


Range
The snow leopard's range in central and south Asia is rugged mountainous regions of approximately 1,230,000 square kilometers, which extends through 12 countries: Afghanistan, Bhutan, China, India, Kazakhstan, the Kyrgyz Republic, Mongolia, Nepal, Pakistan, Russia, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan.

Wikipedia Snow Leopard

Why not cover both options?

Water soures are one thing every animal needs. We know he would need that.

whats interesting is that a good majority of squatch sightings occue near a water source! lol, seriously, you should look up the sightings near water/streams

sarmiento was amazed that sightings occur in point A to point B yr in and yr out

It makes one wonder why cams are set up on trails, or near "game traps" full of what people think a Biff would eat.

most of the traps capture deer, and known animals, but cougars at certain times are hard to capture, even though their bigger. blobsquatch has been captured, just not sasquatch yet. technology is limited when its dealing with nature


If sightings have any predictability at all, should they not lead straight to a creature?

their very unpredictable. most of them are by accident. people who look for "bigfoot"(which i think their probably not without money) are less likely to encounter them. some animals have instincts in which they can hear the crunching of leaves up to 2 miles away and can evade the predator.



It does make one wonder of these dedicated groups "looking" actually want to find anything..............

most "dedicated groups" are jokes. the bfro, even though somewhat cool, is a complete joke. leaving up bait in a tree? sasquatch would be saying "Who do they think i am, a caveman?". their was some orangutan pheromones(in the urine) put high up on a tree, bout 12 ft, and something took it. but not the bait

RFI DNA

For me, the pictures were the first clue, but the bones thing kinda resolves the possibilities for me. I like to hope the Pendek is a starter, a surviving Florensis man would be an amazing find, slim as the possibility may be. Stories like the Pangboche hand keep me wondering too.
Yowie I really do not think is much of a possibility. It gets too hot here for such a large hairy hominid. Even the Southern states get heatwaves and reach temps of over 42 deg C.

Ah, yes! Why must all stories like the Pangboche Hand end like that? Why can't it ever be, "And they brought everything back and it was proven to be real thus starting the realization of a new species!"

But, that's probably true enough. The Yeti or the Pendek seems so much more possible. I hold lots of hope on to the Yeti, merely because it seems more probable. The regions where it is supposed to live is mostly inhospital, giving the big guys a huge chance to be able to survive without too many people noticing.

Ah, yes! Why must all stories like the Pangboche Hand end like that? Why can't it ever be, "And they brought everything back and it was proven to be real thus starting the realization of a new species!"

But, that's probably true enough. The Yeti or the Pendek seems so much more possible. I hold lots of hope on to the Yeti, merely because it seems more probable. The regions where it is supposed to live is mostly inhospital, giving the big guys a huge chance to be able to survive without too many people noticing.

rnt the himalayas visited frequently? i heard its a major tourist industry. the mountains looks dangerous and they are very steep, with not enough walking room without falling off

About 300 people visited Everest last year. The Chinese Goverment is going to slow things down a bit next year as this has been a bumper year for climbers and they are worried about damage and lives.

Looks like this Link to panoramic view






and we have built things there like this



and this



We can access it and build structures. Much land is undeveloped.
I have been told that those who climb Everest find there are hundreds of dead bodies which are unrecoverable sticking out of the snow near the top.

that looks remote

doesnt it baffle u how biff and yeren have similiar ecosystems?

Some parts are very remote, some are not so.

But then look at the Yeren and the Yowie. Can't be the same creature for many reasons from origins to local conditions. I think Man is the one common denominator here.

whats ur opinion on the yeren? the hubei region is very dense and remote.\