i have been studying alot of cryptid reports, from lake monsters to hairy hominids to bunyips!
im very baffled: if their were hoaxers performing any reports for centuries ex. costume, why hasnt some trigger happy hunter shot them?
we should spend more money to finding out the truth of these beasts. mq is good in which it actually looks for creatures, is it real? is nonsense,
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QUOTE (makaya325 @ Sep 26 2008, 06:15 PM) 
i have been studying alot of cryptid reports, from lake monsters to hairy hominids to bunyips!
im very baffled: if their were hoaxers performing any reports for centuries ex. costume, why hasnt some trigger happy hunter shot them?
we should spend more money to finding out the truth of these beasts. mq is good in which it actually looks for creatures, is it real? is nonsense,
im very baffled: if their were hoaxers performing any reports for centuries ex. costume, why hasnt some trigger happy hunter shot them?
we should spend more money to finding out the truth of these beasts. mq is good in which it actually looks for creatures, is it real? is nonsense,
unfortunately the problems is convincing a scientist or a team to spend the money on searching for the creature, and even if they believe in it then you have to convince the government that it is a good investment
QUOTE (swiftpaw fatfox @ Sep 26 2008, 11:56 PM)
unfortunately the problems is convincing a scientist or a team to spend the money on searching for the creature
which no one has, yet skeptics ignore it and say "no, weve been looking for them all the time" which is laughable
, and even if they believe in it then you have to convince the government that it is a good investment
which no one has, yet skeptics ignore it and say "no, weve been looking for them all the time" which is laughable
, and even if they believe in it then you have to convince the government that it is a good investment
"we should spend more money to finding out the truth of these beasts. mq is good in which it actually looks for creatures, is it real? is nonsense,"
I would really like to see some rich old eccentric spend a bit of money funding more thorough investigations, and not ones like Monster Quest that are designed more for ratings. That one seems to be one of the more scientifically-based ones out there, but they still make mountains out of molehills when it comes to their "discoveries".
As for why no one's been shot, how many full-costume picture attempts have been done? There aren't that many, nor would you think anyone would be stupid enough to go into bear country during hunting season in a gorilla suit.
I would really like to see some rich old eccentric spend a bit of money funding more thorough investigations, and not ones like Monster Quest that are designed more for ratings. That one seems to be one of the more scientifically-based ones out there, but they still make mountains out of molehills when it comes to their "discoveries".
As for why no one's been shot, how many full-costume picture attempts have been done? There aren't that many, nor would you think anyone would be stupid enough to go into bear country during hunting season in a gorilla suit.
QUOTE (WraithGod @ Sep 30 2008, 04:33 AM)
"we should spend more money to finding out the truth of these beasts. mq is good in which it actually looks for creatures, is it real? is nonsense,"
I would really like to see some rich old eccentric spend a bit of money funding more thorough investigations, and not ones like Monster Quest that are designed more for ratings. That one seems to be one of the more scientifically-based ones out there, but they still make mountains out of molehills when it comes to their "discoveries".
As for why no one's been shot, how many full-costume picture attempts have been done? There aren't that many, nor would you think anyone would be stupid enough to go into bear country during hunting season in a gorilla suit.
I would really like to see some rich old eccentric spend a bit of money funding more thorough investigations, and not ones like Monster Quest that are designed more for ratings. That one seems to be one of the more scientifically-based ones out there, but they still make mountains out of molehills when it comes to their "discoveries".
As for why no one's been shot, how many full-costume picture attempts have been done? There aren't that many, nor would you think anyone would be stupid enough to go into bear country during hunting season in a gorilla suit.
ruling out people, their is no other animal on earth, besides a gorilla, that fits the description as sasquatch. bears can not walk and look at you for 30 seconds.
QUOTE (WraithGod @ Sep 30 2008, 04:33 AM)
"we should spend more money to finding out the truth of these beasts. mq is good in which it actually looks for creatures, is it real? is nonsense,"
I would really like to see some rich old eccentric spend a bit of money funding more thorough investigations, and not ones like Monster Quest that are designed more for ratings. That one seems to be one of the more scientifically-based ones out there, but they still make mountains out of molehills when it comes to their "discoveries".
which no one has does. to find a bf, u must have an expedition with dozens of pro hunters and 4 black hawks with thermals.
As for why no one's been shot, how many full-costume picture attempts have been done? There aren't that many, nor would you think anyone would be stupid enough to go into bear country during hunting season in a gorilla suit.
I would really like to see some rich old eccentric spend a bit of money funding more thorough investigations, and not ones like Monster Quest that are designed more for ratings. That one seems to be one of the more scientifically-based ones out there, but they still make mountains out of molehills when it comes to their "discoveries".
which no one has does. to find a bf, u must have an expedition with dozens of pro hunters and 4 black hawks with thermals.
As for why no one's been shot, how many full-costume picture attempts have been done? There aren't that many, nor would you think anyone would be stupid enough to go into bear country during hunting season in a gorilla suit.
Somehow, I think that even if Bill freakin Gates decided to break his own personal bank and fund an expedition to either Loch Ness or the Paciffic Northwest, not only would he and his theoretical little band not find much of anything, but you and I both know that..whether they found something or nothing at all....nothing will change the minds of those who WANT to believe in these legends. People believe beacuse they want to believe, not beacuse the evidence tells them they must(which has been reiterated time and time again).
I personally would LOVE for 'Ol Footy to be proven to exist, Nessie to, but Makaya, can you honestly say that if a "large scale" expedition that lasted for months in the supposed "hot spots" for BF exploration concluded and came back with nothing at all, you would be satisfied? I think your response to such an expedition that came back empty handed would simply be "stay out longer", but then how long is long enough?
In short, I think I'm asking "What would wholly and convincingly show you that 'Ol Footy isn't out there?"
I personally would LOVE for 'Ol Footy to be proven to exist, Nessie to, but Makaya, can you honestly say that if a "large scale" expedition that lasted for months in the supposed "hot spots" for BF exploration concluded and came back with nothing at all, you would be satisfied? I think your response to such an expedition that came back empty handed would simply be "stay out longer", but then how long is long enough?
In short, I think I'm asking "What would wholly and convincingly show you that 'Ol Footy isn't out there?"
QUOTE (~Onyx~ @ Sep 30 2008, 04:53 PM)
Somehow, I think that even if Bill freakin Gates decided to break his own personal bank and fund an expedition to either Loch Ness
lochness has been done and came up empty handed
or the Paciffic Northwest,
yet to be done
not only would he and his theoretical little band not find much of anything,
opinion
but you and I both know that..whether they found something or nothing at all....nothing will change the minds of those who WANT to believe in these legends. People believe beacuse they want to believe, not beacuse the evidence tells them they must(which has been reiterated time and time again).
no need to believe, just a matter of time where and when to be in the right spot
I personally would LOVE for 'Ol Footy to be proven to exist, Nessie to, but Makaya, can you honestly say that if a "large scale" expedition that lasted for months in the supposed "hot spots" for BF exploration concluded and came back with nothing at all, you would be satisfied? I think your response to such an expedition that came back empty handed would simply be "stay out longer", but then how long is long enough?
if they spent months and months, exploring every inch of the us and canada, russia, china, and found nothing, not even footprints or bones, i would be convinced. yet the chances of encountering one in huge areas is slim, unless u have an army full of hunters
their was a search for deer in a small area thats overpopulated in deer. how many carcasses did the hunters find? zero!
In short, I think I'm asking "What would wholly and convincingly show you that 'Ol Footy isn't out there?"
lochness has been done and came up empty handed
or the Paciffic Northwest,
yet to be done
not only would he and his theoretical little band not find much of anything,
opinion
but you and I both know that..whether they found something or nothing at all....nothing will change the minds of those who WANT to believe in these legends. People believe beacuse they want to believe, not beacuse the evidence tells them they must(which has been reiterated time and time again).
no need to believe, just a matter of time where and when to be in the right spot
I personally would LOVE for 'Ol Footy to be proven to exist, Nessie to, but Makaya, can you honestly say that if a "large scale" expedition that lasted for months in the supposed "hot spots" for BF exploration concluded and came back with nothing at all, you would be satisfied? I think your response to such an expedition that came back empty handed would simply be "stay out longer", but then how long is long enough?
if they spent months and months, exploring every inch of the us and canada, russia, china, and found nothing, not even footprints or bones, i would be convinced. yet the chances of encountering one in huge areas is slim, unless u have an army full of hunters
their was a search for deer in a small area thats overpopulated in deer. how many carcasses did the hunters find? zero!
In short, I think I'm asking "What would wholly and convincingly show you that 'Ol Footy isn't out there?"
So...after painfully deciphering your response....your saying the chances of you changin your mind rests solely on every single available avenue of exploration being exhausted? Then I respectfully submit that you'll be goin to your grave a believer. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the type of expedition your suggesting isn't gonna happen in your lifetime, no foreseeable profit in it, unfortunately. But hey, ya never know, Bill Gates may get bored with fleecing the worlds population someday and would embrace the challenge of fleecing a previously unknown species, so the possibility lives on. I wonder if Footy can work a web cam?
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unfortunately the problems is convincing a scientist or a team to spend the money on searching for the creature, and even if they believe in it then you have to convince the government that it is a good investment
biologists do not seek funding to look for bigfoot because they know he does not exist.
No research team spending time in the PNW studdying other things has ever come back with bigfoot sightings or evidence. Never. Not once.
By the way, did you know that there is a program in the Adirondacks to track and tag every single moose in the park? In fact, the fellow in charge of the project left a card at our cabin, asking us to call and report any moose sightings and note the time, place, sex, and size of the moose.
See, there's a guy who's entire job is tracking moose, analyzing moose, analyzing their effect on the ecosystem. This guy knows that if there's a bad winter and certain plants don't grow enough, he's going to count less moose. And he knows that if there are too many moose, then there will be fewer of these plants. He also knows how many coyote are in the park based on how desperate they get and kill moose calves or attempt to bring down grown moose. this guy, and every other wildlife bioligist, knows there's no bigfoot. He knows the people at Whitehall are either lying or mistaken. So does every wildlife biologist who's beat is ADK park. The coyote people, the wolf people, the loon people, they all know. Because they would see an impact from footy. Or they might even see footy. But they don't, and they haven't.
QUOTE (~Onyx~ @ Sep 30 2008, 05:24 PM)
So...after painfully deciphering your response....your saying the chances of you changin your mind rests solely on every single available avenue of exploration being exhausted? Then I respectfully submit that you'll be goin to your grave a believer. Not that there's anything wrong with that. But the type of expedition your suggesting isn't gonna happen in your lifetime, no foreseeable profit in it, unfortunately.
thats the only expedition that will either prove or debunk bigfoot as a species for me.
But hey, ya never know, Bill Gates may get bored with fleecing the worlds population someday and would embrace the challenge of fleecing a previously unknown species, so the possibility lives on. I wonder if Footy can work a web cam?
thats the only expedition that will either prove or debunk bigfoot as a species for me.
But hey, ya never know, Bill Gates may get bored with fleecing the worlds population someday and would embrace the challenge of fleecing a previously unknown species, so the possibility lives on. I wonder if Footy can work a web cam?
matter of fact he can! during my years with bigfoot, we went to capture pictures of the elusive wolverine. turns out though that he accidently crossed the game cam, and smashed it. please no pictures!
QUOTE (makaya325 @ Sep 30 2008, 12:32 PM)
matter of fact he can! during my years with bigfoot, we went to capture pictures of the elusive wolverine. turns out though that he accidently crossed the game cam, and smashed it. please no pictures!
Well at least you haven't left your sense of humor at the door.
I'm not sure they are joking....
QUOTE (Neognosis @ Sep 30 2008, 05:40 PM)
I'm not sure they are joking....
i am joking.
Well, if there's no chance of Bigfoot existing at all, why are we on this forum?
Sorry, just playing devil's advocate for a minute.
Sorry, just playing devil's advocate for a minute.
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Well, if there's no chance of Bigfoot existing at all, why are we on this forum?
I'm here because the way people choose to believe impossible things is a fascinating phenemona to me.
I suspect some are here because they think BF is possible, and some just like the romance of it all.
I do have to admit, I like tall tales.
QUOTE (Neognosis @ Sep 30 2008, 06:07 PM)
I'm here because the way people choose to believe impossible things
in no way is it impossible
is a fascinating phenemona to me.
I suspect some are here because they think BF is possible, and some just like the romance of it all.
their is no romance for a smelly, 600 pound ape
in no way is it impossible
is a fascinating phenemona to me.
I suspect some are here because they think BF is possible, and some just like the romance of it all.
their is no romance for a smelly, 600 pound ape
Do you know this from personal experience?
QUOTE (snuffypuffer @ Sep 30 2008, 01:05 PM)
Well, if there's no chance of Bigfoot existing at all, why are we on this forum?
Sorry, just playing devil's advocate for a minute.
Sorry, just playing devil's advocate for a minute.
Beacuse hot pockets take AT LEAST three minutes and thirty seconds to cook in a full size microwave. What am I expected to do with that amount of time otherwise?
Point taken.
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