Smeagol1
Oct 5 2008, 09:54 PM
It's a cold day in Alaska a Mother grizzly bear and her cubs are partolling the edge of a river in search of salmon. When out of the blue a hungry Sasquatch looking for food breaks out of the woods. The bear with it's nateral response is to charge the giant to defend her cubs.
Who wins the fight?
DISCUSS!!!!
Undeadskeptic
Oct 5 2008, 10:16 PM
Grizzly
Sasquatch. Since the bear has cubs, I expect Sasquatch to run away, as there will be plenty of vegetable food elsewhere, and winter being past, the bear is probably too lean to be worth the effort. If the bear did not have cubs, I would expect Sasquatch to eat her. For all I know, though, it might eat mother and cubs.
I once read a story about a Soviet Sasquatch taking on a bear that attacked a human.
makaya325
Oct 5 2008, 11:16 PM
grizzly. sasquatch, if it exists, can not be much stronger than a bull or moose, which can both be killed with 1 swipe. sas likely could kill a black bear though
HumanTorch
Oct 5 2008, 11:21 PM
Basically you would know the answer if you replace Bigfoot with Yao Ming. Yao Ming might be tall but a Grizzly would still kill him with one good wack and a bite. It's not like a bigfoot(if it exists) has superhuman strength. Pretty much if the Bigfoot can't outrun the bear then it is going to be a chew toy.
makaya325
Oct 5 2008, 11:24 PM
QUOTE (HumanTorch @ Oct 5 2008, 11:21 PM)

Basically you would know the answer if you replace Bigfoot with Yao Ming. Yao Ming might be tall but a Grizzly would still kill him with one good wack and a bite. It's not like a bigfoot(if it exists) has superhuman strength. Pretty much if the Bigfoot can't outrun the bear then it is going to be a chew toy.
we know gorillas and non human primates are incredibly strong. heck, a chimp can rips a mans limbs off! a 500-600 pound gorilla can make a grizzly have a run for its money. the sas is much more human like, and he/she and the bears dont mind each other
DieChecker
Oct 5 2008, 11:38 PM
Grizzly. BF would likely run. A big Alaskan brown bear is a true monster.
makaya325
Oct 5 2008, 11:41 PM
QUOTE (DieChecker @ Oct 5 2008, 11:38 PM)

Grizzly. BF would likely run. A big Alaskan brown bear is a true monster.
bf runs from people! arguement against a hoax. he would likely want to be left alone. i couldnt shoot something so human like, its just not in me.
Belle.
Oct 5 2008, 11:46 PM
Sasquatch, we just don't know all his powers yet. I have a feeling he can do mighty powerful voodoo.
odiesbsc
Oct 5 2008, 11:48 PM
Grizzly, if she could catch BF. Most likely BF wouldn't get that close to a grizzly or if it does, they may be friends. Who knows?
Odie
makaya325
Oct 5 2008, 11:49 PM
QUOTE (odiesbsc @ Oct 5 2008, 11:48 PM)

Grizzly, if she could catch BF. Most likely BF wouldn't get that close to a grizzly or if it does, they may be friends. Who knows?
Odie
bears eat way more, and sas wouldnt make any impact on the ecosystem if its in small numbers too.
Nik Xues
Oct 6 2008, 12:04 AM
Hmm Thor magic hammer = Cheater
Sasquatch can use primitive weapons [even chimps can pick up a stick]. Plus opposable thumbs means he could also Wrestle the Grizzly. Like Heracles and the Nimean lion.
Grizzlies are strong and their claws mean they have built in clubs. grizzlies also have strong Jaws and a knack for throat biting. Although so does bigfoot accordong to stories.
I say evenly matched. Although if there is any intelligence in the Ape the Grizzly will die before she is aware of a threat.
{aside} if there are salmon both are likely to ignore one another.
DieChecker
Oct 6 2008, 12:40 AM
QUOTE (Smeagol1 @ Oct 5 2008, 02:54 PM)

It's a cold day in Alaska a Mother grizzly bear and her cubs are partolling the edge of a river in search of salmon. When out of the blue a hungry Sasquatch looking for food breaks out of the woods. The bear with it's nateral response is to charge the giant to defend her cubs.
Who wins the fight?
DISCUSS!!!!
You never said where Thor came into the story?
Unless BF has powers like the comic book Wolverine, I don't think he should mess with a grizzly bear.
Undeadskeptic
Oct 6 2008, 12:50 AM
Bear of course, anyone can defeat somthing that doesn't exist.
Smeagol1
Oct 6 2008, 12:57 AM
Wow I never knew there were so many sceptics that exsisted here.

What has happened to this forum?
I r sad panda.
Sassy weighs about 700- to 1000 pounds roughly I think it could keep it's own **** against a fully grow Grizzly. Considering it grows to 9-10 foot tall it could stand up to a bear and stare it in the eyes.
Considering seeing all the good photo evidence I think it be an interesting match.
Ebonykrow
Oct 6 2008, 01:03 AM
Thor!
Given that some BF are reputed to stand about 8ft or more, and a male grizzly can easily reach the same (with females being 38% smaller), I would wager... it could come out either way. What are the details? Just HOW hungry is the mother bear and her cubs? How large (and how old/experienced) is the BF we're dealing with? I would imagine a hungry bear with cubs to give it her all, but I would not imagine a BF to fight her for something he obviously doesn't need. BF would have strength, but he doesn't have mother bear's claws and teeth. If he got in the first blow I could imagine he'd break her neck, or a limb, which would cause her to lose the fight--but if she were to get the first hit the damage would be quite effective. She could break his neck, or give him some nasty gashes that might give him second thoughts.
But really, I don't know why there would be a confrontation between the two.
And last time I checked, this wasn't a debate to BF's existence.
Nik Xues
Oct 6 2008, 01:17 AM
Thor is the same size as bigfoot.
plus he has a strength enhancing belt which allows him to weild Mjolnir.
makaya325
Oct 6 2008, 01:19 AM
QUOTE (Nik Xues @ Oct 6 2008, 01:17 AM)

Thor is the same size as bigfoot.
plus he has a strength enhancing belt which allows him to weild Mjolnir.
thor doesnt exist, bigfoot might exist
im tired of the ignorant debunkers using the santa claus arguement. its like comparing apples and oranges
Plainbob13
Oct 6 2008, 01:23 AM
The grizzly.
Undeadskeptic
Oct 6 2008, 01:27 AM
QUOTE (Smeagol1 @ Oct 6 2008, 01:57 PM)

Wow I never knew there were so many sceptics that exsisted here.

What has happened to this forum?
I r sad panda.
Deal with it.
Smeagol1
Oct 6 2008, 01:37 AM
QUOTE (makaya325 @ Oct 5 2008, 09:19 PM)

thor doesnt exist, bigfoot might exist
im tired of the ignorant debunkers using the santa claus arguement. its like comparing apples and oranges
NO INSULT MEH VIKING BELEIFS OR I RELEASE THE LONG FIMBLE WINTER APON YEEE!!!!!
Tianca
Oct 21 2008, 02:28 PM
You have got to be kidding!!! Have any of you seen a Sasquatch battle???? I have, and trust me, the bear, and I do not care what size it is, would run for its life!!! Sasquatch are viscious, brutal fighters. There would be no contest!
If you ever see them fighting, get the he** out of there as fast as you can move!! You don't want to be anywhere in the vicinity!!!
Sasquatch can get quite large, well over 12 ft. tall, and the Elders are Highly trained fighters, and bears have been seen running away from just the sight of one. They don't want anything to do with them!
Read your history. This is documented.
Tianca
Incorrigible1
Oct 21 2008, 02:30 PM
QUOTE (Tianca @ Oct 21 2008, 09:28 AM)

You have got to be kidding!!! Have any of you seen a Sasquatch battle???? I have, and trust me, the bear, and I do not care what size it is, would run for its life!!! Sasquatch are viscious, brutal fighters. There would be no contest!
If you ever see them fighting, get the he** out of there as fast as you can move!! You don't want to be anywhere in the vicinity!!!
Sasquatch can get quite large, well over 12 ft. tall, and the Elders are Highly trained fighters, and bears have been seen running away from just the sight of one. They don't want anything to do with them!
Read your history. This is documented.
Tianca
Welcome to U-M. Where might I find this history to read?
Why don't you photograph or film them?
esox
Oct 21 2008, 03:47 PM
Squatch's height advantage, upper body strength and girth would bring about the Grizzly bears (GB's) demise. When the 2 meet in battle, the GB instinctively wraps its jaws around BF's jugular in an attempt to asphyxiate him. Unfortunately for the GB, BF is an opponent unlike anything he has faced before. BF's massive stump-like neck is unaffected by this tactic and his breathing is not hindered whatsoever. This is the GB's fatal mistake, his lower extremities are now totally vulnerable. BF counter attacks with a swift knee into GB's exposed groin region. The GB would immediately drop to the ground rolling in agony simultaneously clutching his genitals. It is at this point that BF recognizes that he has several options open to him. He may elect to leap 8 to 10 feet into the air and landing his entire body - elbow first - onto GB's skull resulting in a quick death. Alternatively, if BF chooses to punish the GB in a slow and torturous manner, he'll administer a series of kicks to GB's stomach and ribs. What ensues is nothing short of gruesome. BF stands over the helpless GB, watching as it slowly expires from internal bleeding.
Now let us consider an alternative scenario where the GB does not collapse to ground after being the recipient of that knee to the groin and he is merely hunched over. BF would quickly subdue GB in a fierce headlock unlike anything ever witnessed on the WCW and even the UFC.
BF's huge biceps and triceps are ideally suited for this maneuver. Once in this position, the grizzly would be administered a painful assortment of moves such as the noogie. And keep in mind that I’m not referring to the type of noogie commonly utilized by your neighborhood bully. NO, this version of the noogie is so violent and intense, it has been outlawed in every state with the exception of Alaska. From this, squatch will most likely implement the cork screw noogie configuration (CSNC) where BF forcefully rotates his middle knuckle litterally drilling into the temple area of the grizzly skull. However, I can't rule out the standard trans-lateral noogie (STL) where the same middle knuckle forcefully slides back and forth permanently removing chunks of the GB’s fur and scalp material. This would be followed by a continuous barrage of knuckle shots to GB temple, nose and jaw. The more the GB struggles to extricate himself, the tighter BF's death grip becomes.
Within seconds, the Grizzly bear's body quickly becomes limp and BF flips him upside down in the most vulnerable position imaginable. He clutches the GB's rear legs and leaps nearly 2 and a half stories into air with the GB still attached. This acrobatic feat concludes with the GB's head being pile-driven 18 inches into the soil. The entire forest shudders by this impact and BF walks away as the victor.
Either way, the day ends badly for the grizzly bear.
IronWarrior
Oct 21 2008, 04:27 PM
Grizzly
i doubt BF would try and fight with a mother bear. besides most reports are of BF bein peaceful.
but i guess if they had to duke it out for some reason.yeah the bear would win
AlexG
Oct 21 2008, 04:29 PM
An 800 pound carnivore will defeat an 800 pound omnivore.
Bear 1, Sasquatch 0.
AlexG
Oct 21 2008, 04:31 PM
Sasquatch vs Sarah Palin?
The Silver Thong
Oct 21 2008, 04:43 PM
QUOTE (AlexG @ Oct 21 2008, 10:31 AM)

Sasquatch vs Sarah Palin?
Sarah Palin forsure, she's can see them from her front porch and has studied there behaviour LOL
If BF has the strength of a silver back gorilla, would be a tough call. If bigfoot is an omnivore then it does not have the teeth to deal with a griz, if BF is a meat eater with the teeth and claws than probably BF would win LOL
sabanist
Oct 21 2008, 04:52 PM
Sasquatch would destroy a grizzly
Guyver
Oct 21 2008, 05:48 PM
I think the sasquatch would stand it's ground. The grizzly would do a bluff charge and then guide her cubs away. If it came down to a real fight, I'd have to say grizzly wins it.
Ebonykrow
Oct 21 2008, 06:03 PM
QUOTE (AlexG @ Oct 21 2008, 11:31 AM)

Sasquatch vs Sarah Palin?
Certainly hope the former. But Palin, being a brutal woman that enforces and encourages barbaric hunting laws (Alaskan wolf slaughter, for example), I would say she would find some way to win.
PlanB
Oct 21 2008, 06:10 PM
QUOTE (Ebonykrow @ Oct 21 2008, 01:03 PM)

Certainly hope the former. But Palin, being a brutal woman that enforces and encourages barbaric hunting laws (Alaskan wolf slaughter, for example), I would say she would find some way to win.
Palin would beat them both via rifle from a helicopter.
The Chupacabra King
Oct 21 2008, 06:14 PM
Remember, if Canada had bought Alaska way back when, it'd be McCain/Gore nowadays.
zigoapex
Oct 21 2008, 06:47 PM
There was a movie back in the 70's about bigfoot cant remember the name,it was shown in theaters.
but in the video the guys making the film,found a grizzly bear
that was ripped apart,it looked like it was tied to 2 trucks
by its back legs and ripped.the grizzly wasn't small,at least 500 lbs.
makaya325
Oct 21 2008, 06:49 PM
grizzlies can kill a rodeo bull with one swipe
Pavot
Oct 21 2008, 07:19 PM
This writer disclaimer here Be forewarned this is a violent comment here as it is needed to explain the OP’s Question
There would be no Contest, Huge thrashing Claws verses Finger nails, but then there is always the Survival instinct that kicks in, it’s like this, here is How I was trained, and so here is a survival scenario to somewhat compare to: I’m walking along with the family and a viscous Dog say a Pit-bull or a Doberman or Rotty comes running and snapping teeth at my children and so I start yelling at it to divert the attack and turn it upon me, so how to deal with it? I do need to think damn fast and out think the Dogs Viscous rage, I don’t Leave it be to bite my family…
How would I deal with should I not be pack n’ heat? Get it or them to attack me and sacrifice my hands sticking my hands into its strong viscous snapping biting mouth and with brute survival Pumped adrenalin raging strength tear apart its jaw snapping it with one huge trust and leave it flapping like a cat door upon a windy day…So would a Squatch win a Attack from a Grizzly Bear sure if it wanted to live or protect its young, but a Grizzly bear especially one defending or protecting its cubs will have the same rages, I have been in Bear situations as well…
I do not at all recommend any one tearing the Jaws off of Viscous attacking dogs, leave that kind of thing to those who can… So in all of that, it would come down to who wanted to live more the Squatch or the Grizzly…Squatch can grip and swing a mean Rock to the head of a Grizzly although I am sure the Grizzly’s skull is very thick and it could shake off the blows and swipe and thrash with claws…
Pavot
Incorrigible1
Oct 21 2008, 07:46 PM
Dumbest. Thread. Ever.
Pavot
Oct 21 2008, 08:47 PM
Here is one more point to consider, if the Squatch is a Herbivore then is its temperament and rages less than say that of a Grizzly Bear that is a Carnivore a Beast that has tasted and lives upon Blood and Flesh and bone marrow, It is just something to pounder over and then added to the Grizzly Bear v.s. Squatch Equation...
Or more Simply put here: Meaning to say if Squatch was an Herbivore would this mean it is more apt to be docile and take the flight rather than engage in the to the Death Fight?
Pavot
ODIN-X
Oct 21 2008, 09:15 PM
QUOTE (Tianca @ Oct 21 2008, 08:28 AM)

Sasquatch can get quite large, well over 12 ft. tall, and the Elders are Highly trained fighters, and bears have been seen running away from just the sight of one. They don't want anything to do with them!
Read your history. This is documented.
Tianca
Yeah Guys!
DUH!
In my daughters American history book, right there on page 389. It says that Sasquatch are bad-mofos and the elder Sasquatch are ninja masters.
Read your history. This is documented.

Sheesh!!
makaya325
Oct 21 2008, 09:19 PM
elders also viewed sasquatch as real as a bear and any other animal
AlexG
Oct 21 2008, 10:01 PM
QUOTE (makaya325 @ Oct 21 2008, 05:19 PM)

elders also viewed sasquatch as real as a bear and any other animal
Which elders?
makaya325
Oct 21 2008, 10:50 PM
QUOTE (AlexG @ Oct 21 2008, 11:01 PM)

Which elders?
the elders from most if not all native american tribes. they give supernatural abilities to all known animals, and regard sasquatch as real as any other animal. its a scary thought
AlexG
Oct 21 2008, 10:54 PM
QUOTE (makaya325 @ Oct 21 2008, 06:50 PM)

the elders from most if not all native american tribes. they give supernatural abilities to all known animals, and regard sasquatch as real as any other animal. its a scary thought
Native american tribes have a rich and varied mythology.
XSAS
Oct 21 2008, 11:06 PM
QUOTE (AlexG @ Oct 21 2008, 11:54 PM)

Native american tribes have a rich and varied mythology.
They also have a Historical background unlike the non Native American.
Ebonykrow
Oct 21 2008, 11:07 PM
QUOTE (PlanB @ Oct 21 2008, 02:10 PM)

Palin would beat them both via rifle from a helicopter.
A sad thought indeed.
(Still, I think the outcome could go either way, given variables of either species. I think the bear would win if it was a mother with cubs defending her brood, and BF would win if he was extremely hungry, facing an equally hungry female without cubs. Consider how they're reputed to behave, their appearances, weight, etc.)
makaya325
Oct 22 2008, 12:08 AM
QUOTE (AlexG @ Oct 21 2008, 11:54 PM)

Native american tribes have a rich and varied mythology.
regarding bigfoot, its consistent, from tribes isolated from each other, yet describing the same ape like animal they call "sasquatch", the boss, the game keeper, guardian of the mountains, om-ah,
aquatus1
Oct 22 2008, 12:59 AM
Makaya, you need to stop posting your opinions as facts. Unless you have a source, don't post as if it is an unquestioned point.
makaya325
Oct 22 2008, 01:01 AM
QUOTE (aquatus1 @ Oct 22 2008, 01:59 AM)

Makaya, you need to stop posting your opinions as facts. Unless you have a source, don't post as if it is an unquestioned point.
i never posted them as facts. im not gonna use "in my opinion" everytime i make a post
**EDIT****Makaya, read the PM I am sending you.**
aquatus1
Oct 22 2008, 01:08 AM
QUOTE (makaya325 @ Oct 22 2008, 01:08 AM)

regarding bigfoot, its consistent, from tribes isolated from each other, yet describing the same ape like animal they call "sasquatch", the boss, the game keeper, guardian of the mountains, om-ah,
Makaya, the above is not a matter of opinion. Either the tribes described the same animal, or they didn't. It is either correct, or incorrect. In other words, it is a fact, or rather, a claim. Claims need to be supported.
makaya325
Oct 22 2008, 01:19 AM
QUOTE (aquatus1 @ Oct 22 2008, 01:08 AM)

Makaya, the above is not a matter of opinion. Either the tribes described the same animal, or they didn't. It is either correct, or incorrect. In other words, it is a fact, or rather, a claim. Claims need to be supported.
you want evidence? go to local tribes and ask them. most folklore isnt available online, why dont u check out reservations more often?
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